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	<title>Comments on: D.J. Williams suspension upheld by appeals court</title>
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		<title>By: rg3isvictory</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/28/d-j-williams-suspension-upheld-by-appeals-court/#comment-1969582</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rg3isvictory]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2012 20:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good for DJ to fight it and not take a reduced sentence(shakedown) to help the league from possibly embarrassing itself.  Fight for what you believe in, even when the cards are stacked against you!  Hope Vilma wins!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good for DJ to fight it and not take a reduced sentence(shakedown) to help the league from possibly embarrassing itself.  Fight for what you believe in, even when the cards are stacked against you!  Hope Vilma wins!!!</p>
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		<title>By: johnniemayes</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/28/d-j-williams-suspension-upheld-by-appeals-court/#comment-1961320</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[johnniemayes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 06:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The uneducated fools who believe everything they read need to take their head out of their a$$es and realize DJ Williams wasn&#039;t eligible for a 3 game reduction to his suspension because he is a repeat offender.  It was going to be 6 games either way.  It&#039;ll probably be 10 games when it&#039;s all said and done since he was found guilty of DWI in the last few weeks.  But Broncos will keep him because he&#039;s one of the more talented LBs in the game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The uneducated fools who believe everything they read need to take their head out of their a$$es and realize DJ Williams wasn&#8217;t eligible for a 3 game reduction to his suspension because he is a repeat offender.  It was going to be 6 games either way.  It&#8217;ll probably be 10 games when it&#8217;s all said and done since he was found guilty of DWI in the last few weeks.  But Broncos will keep him because he&#8217;s one of the more talented LBs in the game.</p>
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		<title>By: bwisnasky</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/28/d-j-williams-suspension-upheld-by-appeals-court/#comment-1960402</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bwisnasky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for not taking the 3 game suspension offer and actually being available to play on our biggest game of the year in week 5 against the Pats!

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DJ Williams wouldn&#039;t have made a difference in the trouncing that the Broncos will receive from Brady and company...  And that will be far from their most important game of the year... their most important game of the year will be whether they win 2 games or 3 games and pick first in the draft or second again.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for not taking the 3 game suspension offer and actually being available to play on our biggest game of the year in week 5 against the Pats!</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>DJ Williams wouldn&#8217;t have made a difference in the trouncing that the Broncos will receive from Brady and company&#8230;  And that will be far from their most important game of the year&#8230; their most important game of the year will be whether they win 2 games or 3 games and pick first in the draft or second again&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: cwwgk</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/28/d-j-williams-suspension-upheld-by-appeals-court/#comment-1960317</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cwwgk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 19:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This case is virtually the same as the bounty suspensions. The league suspended a player for breaking the rules. The player denies he broke the rules. Player appeals to the league arbitrator. Player loses. Player petitions the judicial system to overturn his suspension.

The Williams trial and courts both correctly focused on simply whether the CBA was followed when the suspension was handed down and then when the arbitrator upheld the suspension. No inquiry by the courts as to whether there was sufficient evidence to justify the suspension in the first place.

Identical issues. Wouldn&#039;t seem to bode well at all for the bounty players.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This case is virtually the same as the bounty suspensions. The league suspended a player for breaking the rules. The player denies he broke the rules. Player appeals to the league arbitrator. Player loses. Player petitions the judicial system to overturn his suspension.</p>
<p>The Williams trial and courts both correctly focused on simply whether the CBA was followed when the suspension was handed down and then when the arbitrator upheld the suspension. No inquiry by the courts as to whether there was sufficient evidence to justify the suspension in the first place.</p>
<p>Identical issues. Wouldn&#8217;t seem to bode well at all for the bounty players.</p>
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		<title>By: cliffordc05</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/28/d-j-williams-suspension-upheld-by-appeals-court/#comment-1960042</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cliffordc05]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 18:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This case is very different from the Saints&#039; bounty charges. Williams got caught cheating. Period. There is no credible way for Williams to dispute the actual findings. He provided the evidence.

There is a dispute about the facts in the New Orleans case. Of course it would have helped if the players had actually presented a defense. Poor lawyering.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This case is very different from the Saints&#8217; bounty charges. Williams got caught cheating. Period. There is no credible way for Williams to dispute the actual findings. He provided the evidence.</p>
<p>There is a dispute about the facts in the New Orleans case. Of course it would have helped if the players had actually presented a defense. Poor lawyering.</p>
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		<title>By: yssupasigninnamnotyep</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/28/d-j-williams-suspension-upheld-by-appeals-court/#comment-1959865</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[yssupasigninnamnotyep]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 16:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great news.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great news.</p>
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		<title>By: Broncofanatic7</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/28/d-j-williams-suspension-upheld-by-appeals-court/#comment-1959847</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Broncofanatic7]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 16:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for not taking the 3 game suspension offer and actually being available to play on our biggest game of the year in week 5 against the Pats!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for not taking the 3 game suspension offer and actually being available to play on our biggest game of the year in week 5 against the Pats!</p>
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		<title>By: bigjdve</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/28/d-j-williams-suspension-upheld-by-appeals-court/#comment-1959776</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bigjdve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 16:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think this is priceless. He thought he could submit unhuman urine for a drug test. He get caughts and then tries to claim that it is unfair. 

I am glad some common sense came into play here. 

It means that they are showing the player that it is unfair that he is trying to avoid drug screening.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is priceless. He thought he could submit unhuman urine for a drug test. He get caughts and then tries to claim that it is unfair. </p>
<p>I am glad some common sense came into play here. </p>
<p>It means that they are showing the player that it is unfair that he is trying to avoid drug screening.</p>
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		<title>By: thejuddstir</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/28/d-j-williams-suspension-upheld-by-appeals-court/#comment-1959730</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thejuddstir]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 16:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;“[A] court’s role in these types of arbitration cases is simply to determine whether the arbitrator strayed from the collective-bargaining agreement,” the appeals court explained, via John Ingold of the Denver Post.
 
Williams pursued the same kind of strategy that the players suspended as part of the bounty investigation are implementing.  Specifically, Williams challenged the fairness of the league’s in-house arbitration process.  (By the way, Williams is represented by the same lawyer who represents Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma.)--------------------------------------------------------------
This is exactly why saints* fans shouldn&#039;t hang their hats on local &quot;judge judy&#039;s&quot; desire to &quot;find a way to rule in favor of Vilma&quot;. Judge Judy and Vilma&#039;s lawyer &quot;Gouge &#039;em Ginsburg&quot; know what the  Federal Appeals Court is going to do....defer to the CBA. Too bad Vilma isn&#039;t smart enough to see the handwriting on the wall as he wouldn&#039;t &quot;give&quot; all his money to Ginsburg.  Judge Judy&#039;s own admission that she wants to rule in favor of Vilma.....but needs to find a &quot;reason&quot; but as of yet can&#039;t, should tell you all you need to know about where bountygate is heading. Even the NFL looks at it as nothing more than a &quot;speedbump&quot; and thus they don&#039;t bother themselves with &quot;offering more evidence&quot; or wasting their time with a vigorous defense in front of judy judy. I&#039;m sure the NFL would prefer judge judy rule in favor of Vilma now, in the interest of saving time and money becuz they know how the Appeals Court will rule.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;“[A] court’s role in these types of arbitration cases is simply to determine whether the arbitrator strayed from the collective-bargaining agreement,” the appeals court explained, via John Ingold of the Denver Post.</p>
<p>Williams pursued the same kind of strategy that the players suspended as part of the bounty investigation are implementing.  Specifically, Williams challenged the fairness of the league’s in-house arbitration process.  (By the way, Williams is represented by the same lawyer who represents Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma.)&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
This is exactly why saints* fans shouldn&#8217;t hang their hats on local &#8220;judge judy&#8217;s&#8221; desire to &#8220;find a way to rule in favor of Vilma&#8221;. Judge Judy and Vilma&#8217;s lawyer &#8220;Gouge &#8216;em Ginsburg&#8221; know what the  Federal Appeals Court is going to do&#8230;.defer to the CBA. Too bad Vilma isn&#8217;t smart enough to see the handwriting on the wall as he wouldn&#8217;t &#8220;give&#8221; all his money to Ginsburg.  Judge Judy&#8217;s own admission that she wants to rule in favor of Vilma&#8230;..but needs to find a &#8220;reason&#8221; but as of yet can&#8217;t, should tell you all you need to know about where bountygate is heading. Even the NFL looks at it as nothing more than a &#8220;speedbump&#8221; and thus they don&#8217;t bother themselves with &#8220;offering more evidence&#8221; or wasting their time with a vigorous defense in front of judy judy. I&#8217;m sure the NFL would prefer judge judy rule in favor of Vilma now, in the interest of saving time and money becuz they know how the Appeals Court will rule.</p>
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		<title>By: maximusprime107</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/28/d-j-williams-suspension-upheld-by-appeals-court/#comment-1959706</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[maximusprime107]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 15:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cut this piece of trash]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cut this piece of trash</p>
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		<title>By: smacklayer</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/28/d-j-williams-suspension-upheld-by-appeals-court/#comment-1959693</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[smacklayer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 15:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can we get the same judges from this case on the bounty case? These judges are fast, stick the law, and didn&#039;t screw around.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we get the same judges from this case on the bounty case? These judges are fast, stick the law, and didn&#8217;t screw around.</p>
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		<title>By: cuda1234</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/28/d-j-williams-suspension-upheld-by-appeals-court/#comment-1959691</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cuda1234]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 15:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A former Hurricane getting busted for drugs is about as surprising as Tim Tebow calling a press conference to talk about how he doesn&#039;t like being the center of attention.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A former Hurricane getting busted for drugs is about as surprising as Tim Tebow calling a press conference to talk about how he doesn&#8217;t like being the center of attention.</p>
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		<title>By: villa41</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/28/d-j-williams-suspension-upheld-by-appeals-court/#comment-1959684</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[villa41]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 15:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And the cracks in that &quot;vaunted&quot; Bronco defense start to appear.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the cracks in that &#8220;vaunted&#8221; Bronco defense start to appear.</p>
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		<title>By: phil325</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[phil325]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 15:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Love it.   Keep sucking up to players Florio, your reputation for doing this grows by the day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love it.   Keep sucking up to players Florio, your reputation for doing this grows by the day.</p>
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		<title>By: crazycane</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/28/d-j-williams-suspension-upheld-by-appeals-court/#comment-1959652</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[crazycane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 15:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[h3min1230 says: Aug 28, 2012 11:08 AM

Williams won’t let Goodell eat at his restaurant, Goodell won’t let Williams play in his league. Lol
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It&#039;s not his league. Fidel Goodell makes you think that but it&#039;s not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>h3min1230 says: Aug 28, 2012 11:08 AM</p>
<p>Williams won’t let Goodell eat at his restaurant, Goodell won’t let Williams play in his league. Lol<br />
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It&#8217;s not his league. Fidel Goodell makes you think that but it&#8217;s not.</p>
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		<title>By: hanspard</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hanspard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 15:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How big of a fool do you have to be.....to submit a non-human urine sample?  Really?  Non-human?  You thought that was gonna work?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How big of a fool do you have to be&#8230;..to submit a non-human urine sample?  Really?  Non-human?  You thought that was gonna work?</p>
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		<title>By: Broncofanatic7</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/28/d-j-williams-suspension-upheld-by-appeals-court/#comment-1959642</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Broncofanatic7]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 15:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for not taking the 3 game suspension and actually be able to play in the Patriots/Broncos game week 5 you idiot.... Should have taken the offer!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for not taking the 3 game suspension and actually be able to play in the Patriots/Broncos game week 5 you idiot&#8230;. Should have taken the offer!</p>
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		<title>By: marionbarber24isgod</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[marionbarber24isgod]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 15:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the refs made a good call.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the refs made a good call.</p>
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		<title>By: joetoronto</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joetoronto]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 15:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a turd, he deserves it all and allot more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a turd, he deserves it all and allot more.</p>
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		<title>By: h3min1230</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[h3min1230]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 15:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Williams won&#039;t let Goodell eat at his restaurant, Goodell won&#039;t let Williams play in his league. Lol]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Williams won&#8217;t let Goodell eat at his restaurant, Goodell won&#8217;t let Williams play in his league. Lol</p>
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