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	<title>Comments on: Davis trade frames important question about player relations</title>
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		<title>By: johnnyquick</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/30/davis-trade-frames-important-question-about-player-relations/#comment-1964748</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[johnnyquick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 23:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I need an explanation as to why Vonte Davis was crying and despondent when told he was traded, since nobody wants to play in Miami.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I need an explanation as to why Vonte Davis was crying and despondent when told he was traded, since nobody wants to play in Miami.</p>
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		<title>By: ishudbgm</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/30/davis-trade-frames-important-question-about-player-relations/#comment-1964307</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ishudbgm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 18:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If HBO thought it was hard to get a team to agree to  &quot;Hard Knocks&quot; this year just wait until next year. A ton of the critisicism the Fins have received has been unwarranted. Every team has skeletons in their closet and things they are happy we do not know about. Nobody told VDavis to look like someone spit in his oatmeal....am I the only one that noticed he called Ireland &quot;J&quot;. Seems like they got along as men so this was a little touchy for the 2 of them as &quot;employee-boss&quot;. Ireland seemed like he was somewhat sad about it too....the trade was Philbins final decision. VDavis had character issues coming out of Illinois and Ireland gave him a shot when other teams were hesitant. #justbusiness]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If HBO thought it was hard to get a team to agree to  &#8220;Hard Knocks&#8221; this year just wait until next year. A ton of the critisicism the Fins have received has been unwarranted. Every team has skeletons in their closet and things they are happy we do not know about. Nobody told VDavis to look like someone spit in his oatmeal&#8230;.am I the only one that noticed he called Ireland &#8220;J&#8221;. Seems like they got along as men so this was a little touchy for the 2 of them as &#8220;employee-boss&#8221;. Ireland seemed like he was somewhat sad about it too&#8230;.the trade was Philbins final decision. VDavis had character issues coming out of Illinois and Ireland gave him a shot when other teams were hesitant. #justbusiness</p>
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		<title>By: covercorner</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/30/davis-trade-frames-important-question-about-player-relations/#comment-1964257</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[covercorner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 17:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great article!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article!</p>
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		<title>By: niner13</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/30/davis-trade-frames-important-question-about-player-relations/#comment-1964155</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[niner13]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 16:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guarantee that you&#039;ll never see the Niners on &quot;Knocks&quot; as long as Harbaugh is the coach. That&#039;s a damn good thing. And you seldom see anything about the Niners on most blogs. Most reporters and bloggers don&#039;t even want to approach Jim, fearing the response they&#039;ll get to their inane questions. And that also is a good thing. The less the league knows about the team, the better to keep them guessing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guarantee that you&#8217;ll never see the Niners on &#8220;Knocks&#8221; as long as Harbaugh is the coach. That&#8217;s a damn good thing. And you seldom see anything about the Niners on most blogs. Most reporters and bloggers don&#8217;t even want to approach Jim, fearing the response they&#8217;ll get to their inane questions. And that also is a good thing. The less the league knows about the team, the better to keep them guessing.</p>
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		<title>By: thelastpieceofcheese</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/30/davis-trade-frames-important-question-about-player-relations/#comment-1964069</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thelastpieceofcheese]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 16:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I remember how &quot;compassionate&quot; the late Vince Lombardi - the epitome of all coaches - was when trading/cutting players.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember how &#8220;compassionate&#8221; the late Vince Lombardi &#8211; the epitome of all coaches &#8211; was when trading/cutting players.</p>
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		<title>By: nyfcat</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/30/davis-trade-frames-important-question-about-player-relations/#comment-1963928</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nyfcat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 15:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Vontae showed up out of shape LAST YEAR and was gassed in the first 3 games.   At 0-7, he showed up to practice DRUNK and was suspended for the Chiefs game.  Then he responded with a great finish to the 2011 season, and I thought he had turned the corner.

Then?  Vontae showed up in the worst shape of his life, couldn&#039;t finish practices, and was demoted.

Vontae did this to Vontae.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vontae showed up out of shape LAST YEAR and was gassed in the first 3 games.   At 0-7, he showed up to practice DRUNK and was suspended for the Chiefs game.  Then he responded with a great finish to the 2011 season, and I thought he had turned the corner.</p>
<p>Then?  Vontae showed up in the worst shape of his life, couldn&#8217;t finish practices, and was demoted.</p>
<p>Vontae did this to Vontae.</p>
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		<title>By: gsb333</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/30/davis-trade-frames-important-question-about-player-relations/#comment-1963897</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gsb333]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 15:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Everyone... stop being so sensitive. He was cut, period. Your impression hasn&#039;t changed of him... talented guy that now plays for a different team. I think it&#039;s great that hardcore football fans get an inside look at how a football team is run and the hard decisions that need to be made. It&#039;s great entertainment and a treat to be able to see this. I commend any team that partakes in this.

And contrary to popular belief... the cameras ARE NOT a distraction. There are always cameras and judging eyes around pro teams. These &quot;professionals&quot; should focus on their job while the cameras buzz in the background.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone&#8230; stop being so sensitive. He was cut, period. Your impression hasn&#8217;t changed of him&#8230; talented guy that now plays for a different team. I think it&#8217;s great that hardcore football fans get an inside look at how a football team is run and the hard decisions that need to be made. It&#8217;s great entertainment and a treat to be able to see this. I commend any team that partakes in this.</p>
<p>And contrary to popular belief&#8230; the cameras ARE NOT a distraction. There are always cameras and judging eyes around pro teams. These &#8220;professionals&#8221; should focus on their job while the cameras buzz in the background.</p>
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		<title>By: destructicus</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/30/davis-trade-frames-important-question-about-player-relations/#comment-1963815</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[destructicus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 14:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve always been taught that for every action there is a reaction. Later on in life I filled in the blanks that inaction is in fact an action. 

I see two separate equations in this story. Vontae Davis inaction in terms of preparation for his job (relying mostly on his talents) resulted in his embarrassment in getting cut on TV. 

On the flipside (and I&#039;m a HUGE Dolphins fan) there will also be a reaction to the Dolphins embarrassing players on TV. Perhaps it&#039;s further FA&#039;s deciding to sign elsewhere. Perhaps it&#039;s Jeff Ireland getting fired after this season (hope hope). But that cheque is in the mail. 

Vontae, like us all, got what he deserved. If he didn&#039;t want to be embarrassed in front of the class he should have done his home work. It was always in his hands.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always been taught that for every action there is a reaction. Later on in life I filled in the blanks that inaction is in fact an action. </p>
<p>I see two separate equations in this story. Vontae Davis inaction in terms of preparation for his job (relying mostly on his talents) resulted in his embarrassment in getting cut on TV. </p>
<p>On the flipside (and I&#8217;m a HUGE Dolphins fan) there will also be a reaction to the Dolphins embarrassing players on TV. Perhaps it&#8217;s further FA&#8217;s deciding to sign elsewhere. Perhaps it&#8217;s Jeff Ireland getting fired after this season (hope hope). But that cheque is in the mail. </p>
<p>Vontae, like us all, got what he deserved. If he didn&#8217;t want to be embarrassed in front of the class he should have done his home work. It was always in his hands.</p>
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		<title>By: cardiovascularendurance</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/30/davis-trade-frames-important-question-about-player-relations/#comment-1963801</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cardiovascularendurance]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 14:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Vontae Davis is a clown.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vontae Davis is a clown.</p>
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		<title>By: tfd4999</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/30/davis-trade-frames-important-question-about-player-relations/#comment-1963705</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tfd4999]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 13:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just for the record, those teamswon six, not seven,of the last nine Super Bowls (the Mannings won the other three)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just for the record, those teamswon six, not seven,of the last nine Super Bowls (the Mannings won the other three)</p>
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		<title>By: 202folife</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/30/davis-trade-frames-important-question-about-player-relations/#comment-1963695</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[202folife]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 13:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are you serious? Davis was traded not cut. He also didn&#039;t do himself any favors by faking it during practice and taking long bathroom breaks. Football is a business and has a cut throat side hence the name of the show, HARD KNOCKS!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you serious? Davis was traded not cut. He also didn&#8217;t do himself any favors by faking it during practice and taking long bathroom breaks. Football is a business and has a cut throat side hence the name of the show, HARD KNOCKS!!</p>
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		<title>By: patfanken</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/30/davis-trade-frames-important-question-about-player-relations/#comment-1963694</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[patfanken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 13:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hard Knocks is a great show for the fans.  In an era where the NFL is competing with for the consumers dollar, its an important one too.

There are clear and pervasive reasons why NOT to do this show.  However its a show everyone loves to watch.  Pats fans would LOVE to see their team on Hard Knocks, while at the same time understand completely why it isn&#039;t going to happen....under the current system.

The solution is simple.   Everyone has to do it once.  Sure its a burden for the teams, but if you have to do it only once every 32 years....its not much of one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hard Knocks is a great show for the fans.  In an era where the NFL is competing with for the consumers dollar, its an important one too.</p>
<p>There are clear and pervasive reasons why NOT to do this show.  However its a show everyone loves to watch.  Pats fans would LOVE to see their team on Hard Knocks, while at the same time understand completely why it isn&#8217;t going to happen&#8230;.under the current system.</p>
<p>The solution is simple.   Everyone has to do it once.  Sure its a burden for the teams, but if you have to do it only once every 32 years&#8230;.its not much of one.</p>
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		<title>By: scrapingthefloorioforstorios</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/30/davis-trade-frames-important-question-about-player-relations/#comment-1963630</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[scrapingthefloorioforstorios]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 13:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[nobody in the packers lockerroom was outraged over the favre trade!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nobody in the packers lockerroom was outraged over the favre trade!</p>
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		<title>By: bwisnasky</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/30/davis-trade-frames-important-question-about-player-relations/#comment-1963619</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bwisnasky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 13:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or maybe those &quot;golden&quot; franchises don&#039;t let cameras in because they treat their players like commodity&#039;s as well, but don&#039;t want the cameras to show how ruthless and cut throat they are and tarnish their &quot;golden&quot; image bestowed upon them by the talking heads.  It&#039;s funny, because I remember a time when the New England Patriots were the laughing stock of the league... and it wasn&#039;t that long ago.  I also remember a time when the Steelers were considered a mid-ling franchise at best... or when the Packers were 4-12 and also a laughing stock.... and it really wasn&#039;t that long ago for these &quot;golden&quot; franchises....  Are they good now?  Yes, but all have legitimate QB&#039;s at the present time...  but who is to say their next QB will be as good... Indy might have struck gold twice in a row, but the odds of that happening are very slim.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or maybe those &#8220;golden&#8221; franchises don&#8217;t let cameras in because they treat their players like commodity&#8217;s as well, but don&#8217;t want the cameras to show how ruthless and cut throat they are and tarnish their &#8220;golden&#8221; image bestowed upon them by the talking heads.  It&#8217;s funny, because I remember a time when the New England Patriots were the laughing stock of the league&#8230; and it wasn&#8217;t that long ago.  I also remember a time when the Steelers were considered a mid-ling franchise at best&#8230; or when the Packers were 4-12 and also a laughing stock&#8230;. and it really wasn&#8217;t that long ago for these &#8220;golden&#8221; franchises&#8230;.  Are they good now?  Yes, but all have legitimate QB&#8217;s at the present time&#8230;  but who is to say their next QB will be as good&#8230; Indy might have struck gold twice in a row, but the odds of that happening are very slim&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: opneon</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/30/davis-trade-frames-important-question-about-player-relations/#comment-1963616</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[opneon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 13:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ask Mike Wallace how nice it is to work for the Squealers.  It&#039;s like any company...there are times when the worker gets a bug up his butt and times when the company takes advantage.
So quit glamorizing certain teams when they have their own problems.  Just wait until Todd Haley starts a fight with one of his Steeler players - and then tell me how beautiful it is in rainbow city.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ask Mike Wallace how nice it is to work for the Squealers.  It&#8217;s like any company&#8230;there are times when the worker gets a bug up his butt and times when the company takes advantage.<br />
So quit glamorizing certain teams when they have their own problems.  Just wait until Todd Haley starts a fight with one of his Steeler players &#8211; and then tell me how beautiful it is in rainbow city.</p>
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		<title>By: jaystus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jaystus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 12:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, those teams have championships because the have elite quarterbacks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, those teams have championships because the have elite quarterbacks.</p>
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		<title>By: KIR</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KIR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 12:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d like to see the inevitable video in the next year or two of the Dolphins GM getting fired.

I hope their coach does well, but as I was watching the coach deal with Chad I was wondering how he felt about the way the authorities dealt with his son. He might be a good coach but he has poor interpersonal skills. Which I think are essential to be a good leader.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to see the inevitable video in the next year or two of the Dolphins GM getting fired.</p>
<p>I hope their coach does well, but as I was watching the coach deal with Chad I was wondering how he felt about the way the authorities dealt with his son. He might be a good coach but he has poor interpersonal skills. Which I think are essential to be a good leader.</p>
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		<title>By: whatchutalkinabouthillis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[whatchutalkinabouthillis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 12:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With the amount they get paid, I think they can handle any public work related embarrassment or revelations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the amount they get paid, I think they can handle any public work related embarrassment or revelations.</p>
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		<title>By: audiorage</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[audiorage]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 12:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why do u guys have to bash the Dolphins every chance u get?  Grow up]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do u guys have to bash the Dolphins every chance u get?  Grow up</p>
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		<title>By: cwnc</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cwnc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 12:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is the exact argument that crossed my mind during the Davis trade scene on Tuesday night. 

Vontae Davis has been ridiculed, perhaps rightfully so, for a supposed lack of dedication to honing his craft, a lack of maturity in his approach to his job.  

It&#039;s easy to pile on a kid like this when he brings it on himself. 

It&#039;s also easy - for fans and Dolphin management alike - to write this kid off as a &quot;sunk cost&quot; or an expendable commodity that didn&#039;t pan out. 

Both NFL decision makers and we - as fans - need to remember that, despite these perceived undesirable qualities we may find, these players are human beings that feel emotion just like you and I.  

Don&#039;t get me wrong - NO BODY should be crying for Vontae Davis.  He&#039;s as physically gifted as anybody at his position in the game, and he&#039;s a millionaire that&#039;s going to continue to be handsomely paid by another franchise.  

But if that scene taught us anything, it&#039;s that people need to exercise some compassion and realize that NFL athletes are people and not inanimate assets that deserve to have personal, life-changing events broadcast to the world.

Look no further than Vontae&#039;s immediate reaction to the news.  Everything he has known about life in professional football is coming to an end, and all he wants is to speak to the person he loves most in the world and be told that everything is going to be ok.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the exact argument that crossed my mind during the Davis trade scene on Tuesday night. </p>
<p>Vontae Davis has been ridiculed, perhaps rightfully so, for a supposed lack of dedication to honing his craft, a lack of maturity in his approach to his job.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s easy to pile on a kid like this when he brings it on himself. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s also easy &#8211; for fans and Dolphin management alike &#8211; to write this kid off as a &#8220;sunk cost&#8221; or an expendable commodity that didn&#8217;t pan out. </p>
<p>Both NFL decision makers and we &#8211; as fans &#8211; need to remember that, despite these perceived undesirable qualities we may find, these players are human beings that feel emotion just like you and I.  </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong &#8211; NO BODY should be crying for Vontae Davis.  He&#8217;s as physically gifted as anybody at his position in the game, and he&#8217;s a millionaire that&#8217;s going to continue to be handsomely paid by another franchise.  </p>
<p>But if that scene taught us anything, it&#8217;s that people need to exercise some compassion and realize that NFL athletes are people and not inanimate assets that deserve to have personal, life-changing events broadcast to the world.</p>
<p>Look no further than Vontae&#8217;s immediate reaction to the news.  Everything he has known about life in professional football is coming to an end, and all he wants is to speak to the person he loves most in the world and be told that everything is going to be ok.</p>
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		<title>By: paperlions</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 12:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree that allowing the camera&#039;s in is cheap and unfair to the players.  However, to suggest that the Patriots treat players as people rather than resources is to ignore their history of cuts/trades and the timing of those things.  As soon as a player is no longer useful (or as useful as his contract dictates he should be), he is gone.  Jeez, they cut Underwood for SB week.  To the Pats, players are definitely assets and nothing more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that allowing the camera&#8217;s in is cheap and unfair to the players.  However, to suggest that the Patriots treat players as people rather than resources is to ignore their history of cuts/trades and the timing of those things.  As soon as a player is no longer useful (or as useful as his contract dictates he should be), he is gone.  Jeez, they cut Underwood for SB week.  To the Pats, players are definitely assets and nothing more.</p>
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		<title>By: dfeltz</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 12:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think your issue is with the franchises, its with HBO. I am 100%  sure Bill had to cut a player that year, whether or not NFL Network air&#039;d it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think your issue is with the franchises, its with HBO. I am 100%  sure Bill had to cut a player that year, whether or not NFL Network air&#8217;d it.</p>
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		<title>By: chrismbach</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 12:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reporters and camera men have always had access (and sometimes caught exchanges and emotional moments). This is just more access.

I&#039;d have a lot more sympathy for someone who came into the league BEFORE &quot;Hard Knocks&quot; started. If you entered the league after 2001, you know that your team might get featured.

It&#039;s similar, though not as extreme, to how I have more sympathy for those in the military who went on many extra tours - and possibly even died - due to a change in foreign policy from the non-interventionism Bush campaigned on to the &quot;strike-first&quot; preemptive invasions and occupations. If you joined the military right before 9/11, you expected to only be used against immediate threats to our national security.

Of course, for the military, there is plenty of blame to go around as it was the UN sanctions (and the 100&#039;s of thousands that died as a result during the Clinton years) that the CIA and 9/11 Commission Report say Al Qaeda used to recruit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reporters and camera men have always had access (and sometimes caught exchanges and emotional moments). This is just more access.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d have a lot more sympathy for someone who came into the league BEFORE &#8220;Hard Knocks&#8221; started. If you entered the league after 2001, you know that your team might get featured.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s similar, though not as extreme, to how I have more sympathy for those in the military who went on many extra tours &#8211; and possibly even died &#8211; due to a change in foreign policy from the non-interventionism Bush campaigned on to the &#8220;strike-first&#8221; preemptive invasions and occupations. If you joined the military right before 9/11, you expected to only be used against immediate threats to our national security.</p>
<p>Of course, for the military, there is plenty of blame to go around as it was the UN sanctions (and the 100&#8242;s of thousands that died as a result during the Clinton years) that the CIA and 9/11 Commission Report say Al Qaeda used to recruit.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 12:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or maybe those teams don&#039;t have attention-hungry owners who love to see themselves mentioned on Sportscenter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or maybe those teams don&#8217;t have attention-hungry owners who love to see themselves mentioned on Sportscenter.</p>
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		<title>By: gottaplan</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 12:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Cowboys did the show, the Ravens did the show- I think both of those teams are widely considered class organizations.  Hard Knocks is an awesome inside look at what goes on behind the scenes in the most beloved game in the country.  These players know they are in the public eye..it comes with the territory.  Not every team is on Hard Knocks but if a player gets a speeding ticket it is splashed on the spors page.  Plus being traded isn&#039;t horrible..it happens all the time and might even be welcomed by the palyer.  No big deal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Cowboys did the show, the Ravens did the show- I think both of those teams are widely considered class organizations.  Hard Knocks is an awesome inside look at what goes on behind the scenes in the most beloved game in the country.  These players know they are in the public eye..it comes with the territory.  Not every team is on Hard Knocks but if a player gets a speeding ticket it is splashed on the spors page.  Plus being traded isn&#8217;t horrible..it happens all the time and might even be welcomed by the palyer.  No big deal.</p>
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		<title>By: tsizzlehotpiss</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tsizzlehotpiss]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 12:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s the difference between contenders and pretenders.  Organizations like the Dolphins and the Jets who haven&#039;t won anything in forever feel compelled to resort to shameless self-promotion tactics like agreeing to be on Hard Knocks.  Belichik&#039;s A Football Life was something completely different than the invasive presence of Hard Knocks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s the difference between contenders and pretenders.  Organizations like the Dolphins and the Jets who haven&#8217;t won anything in forever feel compelled to resort to shameless self-promotion tactics like agreeing to be on Hard Knocks.  Belichik&#8217;s A Football Life was something completely different than the invasive presence of Hard Knocks.</p>
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		<title>By: kreedos</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kreedos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 12:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cut throat describes it best. Tough to put the Patriots in that bracket when they cut Tiquan whats his face the night before the Super Bowl.  

But watching Davis&#039; reaction was pretty foul.  Very foul indeed.  I do not wish the Dolphins well this season. Not a fan in the least bit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cut throat describes it best. Tough to put the Patriots in that bracket when they cut Tiquan whats his face the night before the Super Bowl.  </p>
<p>But watching Davis&#8217; reaction was pretty foul.  Very foul indeed.  I do not wish the Dolphins well this season. Not a fan in the least bit.</p>
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		<title>By: mindcrime401</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/30/davis-trade-frames-important-question-about-player-relations/#comment-1963555</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mindcrime401]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 12:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Our lack of visibility into the backroom moves that teams like GB, Pitt, and NE doesn&#039;t translate into them taking the moral high ground or saving face for players.  Frankly, those teams will cut or trade a player without feeling just as quick as any other will.  As fans, we&#039;ve been conditioned for years to deal with excruciatingly rising contracts and all the other non-sense as &quot;it&#039;s just a business&quot;.  Well guess what?  That&#039;s how we look at a player getting cut or traded as fans.   It&#039;s just a business.  When I watched that episode and saw Vontae Davis&#039; reaction of disbelief, I was hoping he&#039;d call his grandma and have her say on speaker phone, &quot;It&#039;s just a business!&quot;.   I think the days of fans having sympathy for professional athletes in these circumstances is long over.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our lack of visibility into the backroom moves that teams like GB, Pitt, and NE doesn&#8217;t translate into them taking the moral high ground or saving face for players.  Frankly, those teams will cut or trade a player without feeling just as quick as any other will.  As fans, we&#8217;ve been conditioned for years to deal with excruciatingly rising contracts and all the other non-sense as &#8220;it&#8217;s just a business&#8221;.  Well guess what?  That&#8217;s how we look at a player getting cut or traded as fans.   It&#8217;s just a business.  When I watched that episode and saw Vontae Davis&#8217; reaction of disbelief, I was hoping he&#8217;d call his grandma and have her say on speaker phone, &#8220;It&#8217;s just a business!&#8221;.   I think the days of fans having sympathy for professional athletes in these circumstances is long over.</p>
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		<title>By: kernelreefer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kernelreefer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 12:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would love to get a player&#039;s perspective on this issue. I don&#039;t imagine it&#039;s much different than what we expect: embarrassing or degrading.

I suppose I&#039;m a little guilty because I watch the show (and therefore encourage their programming strategy), but I&#039;ve always felt more uncomfortable than anything else watching the player cuts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would love to get a player&#8217;s perspective on this issue. I don&#8217;t imagine it&#8217;s much different than what we expect: embarrassing or degrading.</p>
<p>I suppose I&#8217;m a little guilty because I watch the show (and therefore encourage their programming strategy), but I&#8217;ve always felt more uncomfortable than anything else watching the player cuts.</p>
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		<title>By: pattyarbuccholz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pattyarbuccholz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 12:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That’s a cute take on this, however; Bill Belichick (SuperBowl winning coach of the Patriots) did do an all access, mic’d up for NFL Networks, A Football Life, a two parter if I’m not mistaken. I’m pretty sure you even wrote an article about it.

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That was completely different.  Belichick had creative control of &quot;A Football Life&quot;.  He had the final say in the editing room. so he could spin the footage whichever way he liked.  He would never allow an all access show like Hard Knocks to come to Foxborough.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That’s a cute take on this, however; Bill Belichick (SuperBowl winning coach of the Patriots) did do an all access, mic’d up for NFL Networks, A Football Life, a two parter if I’m not mistaken. I’m pretty sure you even wrote an article about it.</p>
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<p>That was completely different.  Belichick had creative control of &#8220;A Football Life&#8221;.  He had the final say in the editing room. so he could spin the footage whichever way he liked.  He would never allow an all access show like Hard Knocks to come to Foxborough.</p>
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