Comments on: Replacement ref making the jump from six-man football to the NFL http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/03/replacement-ref-making-the-jump-from-six-man-football-to-the-nfl/ ProFootballTalk on NBCSports.com Thu, 23 May 2013 17:51:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: warrenpeacephotography http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/03/replacement-ref-making-the-jump-from-six-man-football-to-the-nfl/#comment-1976327 Thu, 06 Sep 2012 12:40:30 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1196771#comment-1976327 sactogary says: “Janitors are absolutely essential to Microsoft and every other company. So you think Microsoft would pay their janitors $150K/year if they demanded it? I’ll bet they don’t have a defined benefit pension plan, either.”

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Good job making a really weak straw man that’s real easy to knock down! This isn’t a good parallel at all. Imagine the janitors at Microsoft asking to go from minimum wage to $15 or even $20/hour. Is that so unfair of them? That’s closer to what the refs are asking.

]]> By: redandgoldhitman52 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/03/replacement-ref-making-the-jump-from-six-man-football-to-the-nfl/#comment-1971946 Tue, 04 Sep 2012 13:40:06 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1196771#comment-1971946 i think the replacement refs are doing a good job. lets face it. they are rookies. rookies make mistakes. but they will learn and get better. i say keep the replacement refs.

]]> By: billh1947 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/03/replacement-ref-making-the-jump-from-six-man-football-to-the-nfl/#comment-1971704 Tue, 04 Sep 2012 10:11:27 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1196771#comment-1971704 Improvement will come week to week,the replacement refs will call what they see on the field,they will figure out exactly where the ball should be spotted,they will make out of bounds catches null and void,they will save some injured hands by stepping between two players who want a piece of each other like always happens in the NFL. no need to complain as they will make some mistakes on both teams equally.

]]> By: commonsensedude http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/03/replacement-ref-making-the-jump-from-six-man-football-to-the-nfl/#comment-1971622 Tue, 04 Sep 2012 05:00:57 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1196771#comment-1971622 This is a complete nightmare.

]]> By: bobzilla1001 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/03/replacement-ref-making-the-jump-from-six-man-football-to-the-nfl/#comment-1971593 Tue, 04 Sep 2012 04:22:53 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1196771#comment-1971593 huejackson:
Nothing’s going to stop a replacement official from slanting a game to suit his own agenda; just as nothing ever stopped the regular refs from doing exactly the same things…
I don’t know how many times my favorite team has been issued apologies from the league by Tuesdays or Wednesdays.
Those letters usually say: Sorry for your luck. Maybe next time we’ll do better.
Have a nice day.
Roger Goodell

]]> By: cowboyscanada http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/03/replacement-ref-making-the-jump-from-six-man-football-to-the-nfl/#comment-1971573 Tue, 04 Sep 2012 04:00:27 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1196771#comment-1971573 Im sure New England and the Saints will find extra ways to cheat with the replacement officials in there!

]]> By: huejackson http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/03/replacement-ref-making-the-jump-from-six-man-football-to-the-nfl/#comment-1971558 Tue, 04 Sep 2012 03:31:01 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1196771#comment-1971558 This is not going to end well, All these refs were just fans a few months ago, so If one of these guys is say a Chargers fan and he is going to be the ref for Raiders Vs Chargers, what is going to stop him from making some bogus calls to get the out come he wants or bet on?

]]> By: warrenpeacephotography http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/03/replacement-ref-making-the-jump-from-six-man-football-to-the-nfl/#comment-1971548 Tue, 04 Sep 2012 03:24:58 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1196771#comment-1971548 “Why do I keep reading things about how “most fans” dont like the new officials? In the comments section on almost every article on this I’ve read “most fans” just want football.”

Most fans are also morons.

]]> By: prospero63 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/03/replacement-ref-making-the-jump-from-six-man-football-to-the-nfl/#comment-1971483 Tue, 04 Sep 2012 02:32:32 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1196771#comment-1971483 Most fans? I’d be curious to know how you derived that. Because if the comments around here are any indication (and let’s face it, these are only the comments that aren’t getting pulled, like my original one on this story, factor all those in and I’d wager it’s even more) most fans understand that the old officials are making completely unrealistic requests and understand that the only thing keeping the old officials from their jobs is their union. They could come back to work any time they wanted. But they want to play hard ball and that’s fine. I hope the NFL continues to invest in their current officials and given time, gets the kind of officiating crews they want, without having to hassle with a union at all.

]]> By: sactogary http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/03/replacement-ref-making-the-jump-from-six-man-football-to-the-nfl/#comment-1971455 Tue, 04 Sep 2012 02:14:14 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1196771#comment-1971455 joejoe51 says:
Sep 3, 2012 2:41 PM
The NFL crying about $100,000. per team for the reg. Refs is like Microsoft whining about a pay raise for their janitors, C’mon, Goodell/NFL Owners you are a 9+ BILLION dollar a year business don’t tell me you can’t afford to pay $3.2 million more a year for these Refs… That’s just being cheap!
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Janitors are absolutely essential to Microsoft and every other company. So you think Microsoft would pay their janitors $150K/year if they demanded it? I’ll bet they don’t have a defined benefit pension plan, either.

]]> By: mullman76 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/03/replacement-ref-making-the-jump-from-six-man-football-to-the-nfl/#comment-1971414 Tue, 04 Sep 2012 01:52:18 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1196771#comment-1971414 @gtstewart400: The patriots are a false dynasty, a franchise built on a bogus call and the destruction of evidence.

]]> By: skinsfaninnebraska http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/03/replacement-ref-making-the-jump-from-six-man-football-to-the-nfl/#comment-1971361 Tue, 04 Sep 2012 01:06:00 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1196771#comment-1971361 While there has obviously been a real learning curve for them, the replacements have gotten better towards the end of the preseason.

As far as the replacements possibly affecting the outcome(s) of game(s), come on please, that has been happening with the regular officials every single week in the NFL since anyone can remember! It’s even extended as far as the Super Bowl (PIT vs SEA).

Once they get a few more weeks of on the job training, I don’t think there will be enough of a difference anymore to be worthy of comment.

]]> By: suhdidntstompanyone http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/03/replacement-ref-making-the-jump-from-six-man-football-to-the-nfl/#comment-1971358 Tue, 04 Sep 2012 01:05:30 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1196771#comment-1971358 All of you writers at PFT have made it crystal clear where you stand as far as the replacement refs go.
Personally I’m so sick of hearing them get bashed here that there are now times that I simply avoid the site.
Every call they make gets nitpicked to no end.
It’s like you guys are the schoolyard bully and you’ve identified the weak kid and you’re never going to leave him alone no matter what he does.
Obviously these refs are not of the same caliber as the regular officials. If they were they would be the regular officials.
Could we possibly give it a little bit of a rest and (heaven forbid) give them a couple more games to hopefully get up to par or were they just supposed to step in and be perfect right away?

]]> By: dallascowboysdishingthereal http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/03/replacement-ref-making-the-jump-from-six-man-football-to-the-nfl/#comment-1971231 Mon, 03 Sep 2012 23:26:17 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1196771#comment-1971231 Look for some “too many players on the field” calls from this official.

]]> By: geo1113 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/03/replacement-ref-making-the-jump-from-six-man-football-to-the-nfl/#comment-1971207 Mon, 03 Sep 2012 23:09:44 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1196771#comment-1971207 Bernier has been officiating for 19 years, working high school, college and professional indoor football games during that span. His career started for a reason familiar enough to many of the fans who watch him work.

]]> By: andrewfbrowne http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/03/replacement-ref-making-the-jump-from-six-man-football-to-the-nfl/#comment-1971187 Mon, 03 Sep 2012 22:51:36 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1196771#comment-1971187 I would like to know what guys in the NFLRA did before they were refs, because last time I checked there is not a single college program for referees anywhere on earth. So these guys had to come from somewhere also. All this integrity of the game nonsense is just that.

]]> By: yelix http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/03/replacement-ref-making-the-jump-from-six-man-football-to-the-nfl/#comment-1971171 Mon, 03 Sep 2012 22:40:14 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1196771#comment-1971171 I’m frustrated at the situation, not the replacement refs themselves. They have a really difficult job to do, and they’re doing the best they can. Sadly, their best just isn’t up to the standard that we, as fans, are used to.

]]> By: realityonetwo http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/03/replacement-ref-making-the-jump-from-six-man-football-to-the-nfl/#comment-1971168 Mon, 03 Sep 2012 22:39:07 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1196771#comment-1971168 It’s past time for new blood. It may be painful and sometimes ugly, but I’m in no hurry to see the same old crappy officiating.

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Are you in a hurry to see even worse officiating? Because that’s what you’re gonna get. Much worse.

]]> By: realityonetwo http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/03/replacement-ref-making-the-jump-from-six-man-football-to-the-nfl/#comment-1971158 Mon, 03 Sep 2012 22:31:53 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1196771#comment-1971158 These jokers are going to decide at least one game this weekend, probably screwing a playoff contender. After that team’s owner places a collect call to Mr. Goodell, we will see swift completion of “negotiations” with the real referees.

]]> By: mjkelly77 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/03/replacement-ref-making-the-jump-from-six-man-football-to-the-nfl/#comment-1970874 Mon, 03 Sep 2012 19:12:00 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1196771#comment-1970874 thepvyharvin says:Sep 3, 2012 2:15 PM

6 man kids ball to NFL,,,Really? About the same a RN moving up to brain surgery ,crazy
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Exaggerate much?

]]> By: foosball11 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/03/replacement-ref-making-the-jump-from-six-man-football-to-the-nfl/#comment-1970873 Mon, 03 Sep 2012 19:11:41 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1196771#comment-1970873 lib/commie media types shilling for a union…why am I not surprised?

]]> By: barrywhererufrom http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/03/replacement-ref-making-the-jump-from-six-man-football-to-the-nfl/#comment-1970871 Mon, 03 Sep 2012 19:10:49 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1196771#comment-1970871 You know something even these replacement officials could be just as bad as the regular officials given the time.

]]> By: mjkelly77 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/03/replacement-ref-making-the-jump-from-six-man-football-to-the-nfl/#comment-1970865 Mon, 03 Sep 2012 19:08:03 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1196771#comment-1970865 Most fans have wanted to kick the replacement officials in the butt and say, “Bad job” so far this preseason, but whether the fans like it or not …
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Most fans? I suppose that’s why the overwhelming majority of comments are pro NFl and anti NFLRA. The overpaid, greedy part-timers can stay home forever as far as I’m concerned.

]]> By: mjkelly77 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/03/replacement-ref-making-the-jump-from-six-man-football-to-the-nfl/#comment-1970859 Mon, 03 Sep 2012 19:03:38 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1196771#comment-1970859 I sure wish the NFLRA wasn’t practicing intimidation on the NCAA Division I officials. They’d be the solution to all of this. But of course, the NFLRA is deathly afraid of this happening.

]]> By: truthfactory http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/03/replacement-ref-making-the-jump-from-six-man-football-to-the-nfl/#comment-1970852 Mon, 03 Sep 2012 18:50:18 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1196771#comment-1970852 All things considering, I feel they’ve done a decent job.

I support the NFL even more now that I’ve heard how much money the regular refs make to basically work 3 hours per day for 17 days out of the year.

The NFL has a more than generous deal on the table and the Refs arent taking it… What else can you do but keep training the replacement refs? They will get better and better as the weeks go on. There has already been big improvements from week 1 of preseason till now

]]> By: ncarolinarn7 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/03/replacement-ref-making-the-jump-from-six-man-football-to-the-nfl/#comment-1970848 Mon, 03 Sep 2012 18:48:10 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1196771#comment-1970848 It’ll be what it is. All will have to deal with it. Not real pleased but we all have to spoon this mess down. Yum.

]]> By: jwreck http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/03/replacement-ref-making-the-jump-from-six-man-football-to-the-nfl/#comment-1970846 Mon, 03 Sep 2012 18:47:25 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1196771#comment-1970846 I just reffed a game of touch football in the cul-de-sac between my four-year-old son and his friends, can I apply for an NFL officiating job now?

]]> By: eagleswin http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/03/replacement-ref-making-the-jump-from-six-man-football-to-the-nfl/#comment-1970844 Mon, 03 Sep 2012 18:45:23 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1196771#comment-1970844 Most fans have wanted to kick the replacement officials in the butt and say, “Bad job” so far this preseason, but whether the fans like it or not, the NFL is about to start its season with refs whose experience comes from levels much, much lower than professional football.

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You really like to club us over the head with this don’t you? If there were better qualified officials that were available for hire and weren’t in the NFLRA, they would’ve got them.

The Div I officials would’ve been the perfect replacements but unfortunately, they were unavailable without being able to tell them that they would’ve been the permanent officials. If you have a better solution, other than the NFL caving to the regular officials unreasonable demands, then have at it.

Remember, the regular officials want to be appointed for life with no accountability. The league wants to be able to replace refs that are performing badly and to make some of the refs fulltime.

Isn’t that worth some short term pain?

]]> By: paulnoga http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/03/replacement-ref-making-the-jump-from-six-man-football-to-the-nfl/#comment-1970842 Mon, 03 Sep 2012 18:44:29 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1196771#comment-1970842 The announced on ESPN yesterday that the Refs last year made $149,000 a year. Not bad for a 6 month job. The NFL this year offered to raise it to $189,000 a year and the NFLRA turned it down. Yes, they wanted pensions, but this is crazy.
Its time to quit complaining about the refs on the field now. They will no longer be the replacement Refs nut just the NFL Refs. Like it or not, they will be on the field the entire year.

]]> By: briank1ne http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/03/replacement-ref-making-the-jump-from-six-man-football-to-the-nfl/#comment-1970838 Mon, 03 Sep 2012 18:42:16 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1196771#comment-1970838 yikes

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