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Source: Gap between NFL, officials is as much as $70 million

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The NFL has been driving a hard bargain with the locked-out officials.  Now that the replacements are looking like they need to be replaced, the locked-out officials are driving a hard bargain right back at the league.

The best evidence that the regular officials believe they have the upper hand comes from a Monday report that some are determined to sit out for months, if that’s what it takes to get the deal they want.

“This is a battle of right and wrong,” one unnamed official told Mike Freeman of CBSSports.com. “We are willing to wait for as long as it takes.”

Sorry, unnamed official, but that overstates the situation — and invites a backlash.  While plenty of fans believe that the NFL is being obstinate because it can, plenty of other fans believe that the locked-out officials incorrectly assume that their income should grow at the same rate the league’s revenues are growing.

NFLRA spokesman Michael Arnold explained to PFT via email on Monday that the officials’ current proposal would have a total cost $30 million in 2012 in salary and benefits.

It’s still not clear what the precise gap is.  A league source tells PFT that, when the parties met on Saturday, the NFLRA reverted to their pre-lockout position, which creates a gap of up to $70 million over the seven-year life of the deal.

If that calculation of the gap is based on the NFLRA’s representation of the officials’ position, this means the NFL is offering a total package worth as little as $20 million — and that the gap extends to as much as $10 million per year.

It could be that the parties have an incentive to overstate the divide in order to avoid external pressure on either side to close it.  Regardless, it looks like the replacement officials will get their first close up on Wednesday night, whether they’re ready for it or not.

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  1. eyeh8goodell says: Sep 4, 2012 9:12 AM

    And every single week the scabs are out there butchering the job these guys’ leverage goes up. It’s refreshing to see the league office in a position of vulnerability for a change.

  2. ebrownwareagle says: Sep 4, 2012 9:17 AM

    They should make at least 6figures. And that’s just coming in the door. Full time status and benefits. NFL Billion$ industry!

  3. doctorfootball says: Sep 4, 2012 9:17 AM

    Every mistake, and there will be lots of them, that the replacement officials make will be magnified. But, what happens to the NFLRA’s leverage if the replacements show marked improvement over the first few weeks? If this report is true, then the NFLRA is doing a disservice to their own. Whatever happened to compromise? You know, meeting in the middle? In the end, neither side is going to be happy with the outcome of their deal. But I believe that’s the very definition of a compromise.

  4. eaglesw00t says: Sep 4, 2012 9:18 AM

    That is a ton of money, considering they are part time employees and only work 50 days per year.

    The refs act like they are asking for nothing, but truth be told, they are trying to hold the NFL hostage.

    I hate the replacements too, but holy cow…why be so greedy?

  5. Patskrieg dot com says: Sep 4, 2012 9:19 AM

    $70 million?! Who’s negotiating for the officials, Drew Rosenhaus?

  6. southpaw2k says: Sep 4, 2012 9:23 AM

    Wow, this is way uglier than I had thought it to be. Then again, almost all these officials have day jobs, so they can strike for as long as they like since they have supplemental income to cover themselves. They stand to lose a whole lot less by striking than the players did last year. Looks like we’re going to have replacements for most of the season.

  7. popdawg99 says: Sep 4, 2012 9:23 AM

    Ok, time for the officials to come back down to earth. They are acting like they are not replacable. Depsite the embarrassment of the temporary officials now in place, given time, the NFL can definitely find and train competent officials who will work at a discount.

  8. jobiwon22 says: Sep 4, 2012 9:23 AM

    The replacement refs made a bunch of mistakes but they will get better. It’s not like the regular refs always got things right. They need to be full time refs through out the offseason if they want more money. If I was the NFL, I wouldn’t budge until the refs reveal their other sources of income. Many of them have a second salary paid directly from the Rooneys.

  9. kcsno56 says: Sep 4, 2012 9:28 AM

    $70 million over seven years…OR $312,500 per team, per season.

    Not so much when looking at it that way.

    The NFL has to know the NFLRA’s leverage will only increase as the year goes on and bad calls are made.

  10. allinskins says: Sep 4, 2012 9:31 AM

    With the “New Jack” movie theme playing in the background NFLRA calls the NFL reps with money, money, money playing in the background. I am of the believe if this drags on the NFL can roll with the replacement refs and hire a new, trained crop from the college ranks offering long term deals. From a labor standpoint all they have to do is a make a fair offer to collective bargain then use the health and welfare of the game as a reason to hire new staff permanently over the locked refs. It’s a little extreme but still possible if the NFL draws the hard line. They still hold the ultimate trump card as they own the product and the refs are just contract employees. Nothing more nothing less. Get this thing done or stick to your 9-5 locked out refs REALLY!!!!

  11. eagleswin says: Sep 4, 2012 9:31 AM

    “This is a battle of right and wrong,” one unnamed official told Mike Freeman of CBSSports.com. “We are willing to wait for as long as it takes.”

    It’s still not clear what the precise gap is. A league source tells PFT that, when the parties met on Saturday, the NFLRA reverted to their pre-lockout position, which creates a gap of up to $70 million over the seven-year life of the deal.

    ———————————-

    Right and wrong? The refs are as delusional as some of the calls they make. I don’t think anyone will argue that the NFL would be better with the best of the Div I college refs calling the games than the NFL refs.

    I can deal with some short term pain as long as there is longterm gain. People complain about the errors the replacements make and want them replaced. The regular officials are fighting tooth and nail to not be held to the same standards. A few of the things that the regular refs are resisting is the NFL hiring new refs to be ready to replace the “lifers” when they don’t perform up to standards.

    If this is about right or wrong, it’s clear the refs are the ones who are wrong.

  12. nyfootballgiants says: Sep 4, 2012 9:31 AM

    Don’t the NFL officials remember we complain about them all the time too? I think they are delusional if they think that they are anything other than replaceable.

    Replacement officials will get better with time, and perhaps the game will be a little better – either the NFL officials will be humbled, or we will have replaced these arrogant people with people who really want the job.

  13. ravenator says: Sep 4, 2012 9:34 AM

    Forget these greedy refs. Im all for replacement officials, the previous ones still messed up constantly and they deserve a raise? Riiiight.

  14. lightcleric says: Sep 4, 2012 9:37 AM

    I was one of the people who was all for paying the refs, but they’re looking for a lot more money than they should get. They put in a lot of time off the field, but so do other refs on top of doing 82-162 games; they deserve to get paid, but not like the NBA/MLB.

  15. pastabelly says: Sep 4, 2012 9:39 AM

    Of course, the NFL Refs have the upper hand. They all have real jobs in addition to their gigs with the NFL. That’s the ultimate leverage. These guys want it both ways. They like that they have a part time job, but also want pensions (who gets those anymore?). This thing could get settled with more pay and no pensions.

  16. ppdoc13 says: Sep 4, 2012 9:42 AM

    I am in no way a supporter of the unions in general. I think that they have lost their reason for existence especially the federal unions.

    But in this case I side with the refs. The nfl needs to realize that if they want quality refs they need to be full time jobs with full benefits. When off season comes each ref should be in classes honing their knowledge base and skill set. They should be responsible for reviewing each and every game they did over the past couple of years. That will help give the quality we need for a game that moves at break neck speed. It’s not like the nfl is in danger of losing money. The money is there to settle. On the nfl side, they need to demand better accountability and demand pay and raises based on merit, not just seniority. But this needs to be settled. The replacements are brutally bad. Just one mans humble opinion.

  17. untested1980 says: Sep 4, 2012 9:43 AM

    Wait, so we’re ok with NFL players earning tens of millions of dollars, but we’re not ok with an entire -group- of officials earning more money?
    Sorry, but officials are part of the game too. They help provide the entertainment and facilitate it. Why is it so wrong that the officials be compensated at the same rate of growth as everyone else?

  18. almighty1 says: Sep 4, 2012 9:45 AM

    I don’t care how much money the NFL makes. Just because its a billion dollar industry does not mean part time officials need to make a million dollars. A job is only worth so much. I think the replacements stink but I’m siding with the NFL on this one.

  19. tannethrill says: Sep 4, 2012 9:46 AM

    Start reeducating the replacement refs and begin developing an advanced method to making rulings on the field through a mixture of the replacements and monitoring from an off site location managed by the league.

    I would even go as far as starting to find people that are made for this job like retired police and military. Basically I think that the pressure they’ve already faced in their first career would allow them to be calm and collected as a ref. Start training them Roger.

  20. chatham10 says: Sep 4, 2012 9:49 AM

    The press and sports talk hosts are all ripping these replacement refs and they have made their share of errors but when did the regular refs not blow calls and screw up a win for a team. I bet every fan can recall the regular refs blowing a call that costs their team a win.

  21. shawon0meter says: Sep 4, 2012 9:49 AM

    McDonald’s makes a lot of money. All the cashiers should be holding out for $25/hr

  22. mialto says: Sep 4, 2012 9:52 AM

    Fire them and keep replacements, within 3 years replacements should be up to speed. Mistakes will happen regardless of replacements or real refs are in the game, human nature.

  23. wikipediasaidso says: Sep 4, 2012 9:55 AM

    Officiating NFL games is not an easy job, but let’s be serious — it doesn’t take incredibly unique skills, either. Experience is what separates the regular refs from their replacements.

    The longer this goes on, the less glaring the differences between the replacments and the regular refs are going to be. Waiting “as long as it takes” would not seem to be to the NFLRA’s advantage here.

  24. jakeblues68 says: Sep 4, 2012 9:55 AM

    1. Fire them all.

    2. Limp through the season with the replacements.

    3. ??

    4. Profit.

  25. njgiant1982 says: Sep 4, 2012 9:56 AM

    Anyone who cares how much these part-timers make, is just a hater (including myself). Reality is, the NFL makes billions a year and these reffs want a bigger slice of the pie.
    The only real impact it has on any NFL fan is the quality of the game.
    I don’t want my team to be part of a win or loss that pivoted around a bad call by a J.V high school reff. Give these guys what they want and lets go… cut the crap.

  26. eagleswin says: Sep 4, 2012 9:59 AM

    ppdoc13 says:
    Sep 4, 2012 9:42 AM
    I am in no way a supporter of the unions in general. I think that they have lost their reason for existence especially the federal unions.

    But in this case I side with the refs. The nfl needs to realize that if they want quality refs they need to be full time jobs with full benefits. When off season comes each ref should be in classes honing their knowledge base and skill set.

    —————————————–

    Although articles like this routinely ignore the other relevant facts of the lockout other than the money, the NFL DOES WANT FULLTIME REFS. The REFEREES DO NOT WANT TO BE FULLTIME.

    I hope i cleared that up that misconception for you. The refs want fulltime money but they do not want fulltime jobs. Also, in case you missed this as well, the league wants to hire more refs so that they can ensure that only the best refs work on sunday. The regular refs are fighting them on that as well.

    I hope you can form a more educated opinion now.

  27. marima07 says: Sep 4, 2012 10:11 AM

    Picture accompanying this article is great.

    All it needs is a third ref to the left with a ‘D’ on his back to make it perfect.

  28. mattolikesthevikes says: Sep 4, 2012 10:13 AM

    For the locked out refs sake, this better happen soon. The replacements will eventually figure out what needs to be done to correct their flaws.

  29. coutre says: Sep 4, 2012 10:20 AM

    So that would be approximated 2+ million per club. Imagine the acting lessons that could buy Bobby Kraft and his little hoochie!

  30. skinsfaninnebraska says: Sep 4, 2012 10:24 AM

    You know, it’s one thing for them to ask for more salary. Can’t really blame them there. But a PENSION?? Give me a break!

    These guys are all successful in their main careers. Being an NFL game official is part-time work that pays incredibly well for being just part-time work! Let them save and invest their $150,000 + per year for their retirements while they live off their main job income!

    Having said that, there has been some significant progress in getting the replacements up to speed. And, are the NFLRA guys really that great to begin with? Why don’t we ask the Seattle Seahawks what they think about the NFLRA crew that worked their Super Bowl against Pittsburgh?

  31. hatesycophants says: Sep 4, 2012 10:26 AM

    The referees are not a part of the game in the same way players, coaches and even front office staff are. They should go unnoticed. They are not a part of the entertainment. Let me guess, you think ushers, roadies and parking lot attendants are part of the entertainment at a concert, right?

  32. slickster35 says: Sep 4, 2012 10:33 AM

    The regular refs aren’t that good to begin with. These replacement guys/gal, LOL, will get better with time, and I’d like to see some replay enhancement to go with it.

    They already turned down a reasonable offer for increases. Unions are scum of the earth.

  33. shawnc16 says: Sep 4, 2012 10:50 AM

    ppdoc13 says:Sep 4, 2012 9:42 AM

    I am in no way a supporter of the unions in general. I think that they have lost their reason for existence especially the federal unions.

    But in this case I side with the refs. The nfl needs to realize that if they want quality refs they need to be full time jobs with full benefits. When off season comes each ref should be in classes honing their knowledge base and skill set. They should be responsible for reviewing each and every game they did over the past couple of years. That will help give the quality we need for a game that moves at break neck speed. It’s not like the nfl is in danger of losing money. The money is there to settle. On the nfl side, they need to demand better accountability and demand pay and raises based on merit, not just seniority. But this needs to be settled. The replacements are brutally bad. Just one mans humble opinion
    ———————————————————

    You said you side with the refs, but I’m not sure you do, the NFL wants the refs to be full time employees like you suggested, its the refs who want to stay part time. The fans and the NFL would love to see the refs improving and getting better in the offseason.

  34. hollywood26 says: Sep 4, 2012 10:55 AM

    It’s easy to say they are PT but the reality is they are working 2 FT jobs. They must leave their main job on Thursday for a Sunday game

  35. thelastpieceofcheese says: Sep 4, 2012 10:56 AM

    Fire these greedy, capitalist pigs regular refs.

    Officiating a game is not rocket science. There are already thousands of well qualified refs in the USA.

  36. giantsfanlewis says: Sep 4, 2012 10:59 AM

    @nygiant1982

    So you would rather have your team lose a game due to the part time refs making bad calls then the replacement refs that will try to fix it.

    If you are truly a giants fan then how do you not remember the giants vs packers game one and two last season or the blown call in the giants vs 49ers in 2002. The part time refs blow games all the time. I think everyone remembers the music city mericle, the tuck rule game and most would even aru that a hold wasn’t called on the giants vs the pats in the first sb during the helmet catch. These replacement refs may not be great but the part time refs miss a lot of calls to. They decide the outcome of games on a weekly bases and are never held accountable for it. So please don’t act like a giants fan then act like these part time fools are perfect. They ruin as many wins for teams as these replacent refs will and they have been doing it a lot longer

  37. daysend564 says: Sep 4, 2012 11:00 AM

    Sounds like the refs need to enter the concussions lawsuit.

  38. rodgers419 says: Sep 4, 2012 11:04 AM

    The refs we had before were awful and yet they were the best available. Now we’ve downgraded to referees coming from 6 man, lingerie, and high school football. It’s funny to see everyone bash the old referees but they’ll be begging for them back by week 6.

    NFL is a billion dollar industry. The referees want chump change. Disappointing to see the NFL compromise the integrity of the game over what is essentially a few cents to them.

  39. pitch87mph says: Sep 4, 2012 11:04 AM

    How many industries in America remain on a defined benefits style retirement program? I can’t think of many–unless they are state run (and many states are trying to get out of those). From the perspective of the officials (who likely already have fat 401ks, etc.–most of these guys are successful professionals in their “other” lives), getting a defined benefits plan makes some sense from a personal finance risk adjusted “portfolio” perspective. But is that really worth throwing away what looks like a pretty good gig? This sounds far more like an ego thing. As everyone points out, these officials tend to be very successful in life, in general. And I imagine they’re used to getting their way. And I’m sure many of them aren’t intimidated by the NFL or its “shield”. They probably deal with that kind of crap everyday. While it’s ALWAYS about the money, I think this is also about egos. And hyperbole’s statements like the one from the “unnamed” official seems to confirm this sentiment. It’s a LOT of ego right now.

  40. wallio says: Sep 4, 2012 11:06 AM

    $70 million over ten years eh? So eight figures a year for a part-time job? With no accountability (since the union won’t allow a three-crew “bench”)? For a hobby? In this economy? And they think the public is on their side? Man, I needed a laugh today. And to everyone saying the refs leverage grows every week, think again. The replacements get better every week. By Week 4, they’ll be no difference, mark it down.

  41. fuglyflorio says: Sep 4, 2012 11:27 AM

    There’s a difference between being a star … and having a job. NFL players do what very few people in the world can do. They possess skills and abilities that are not easily found … not easily replaced.

    The refs have a job. They do it well … like we all do our jobs well. But we’re not irreplaceable, and neither are they. In a season or two the new refs will be just fine. Because they don’t have to run a 4.4 40 … or leap over two people to catch a football. They just have to do a job … one that you’re paid $150,000 to do .. part time.

  42. laserw says: Sep 4, 2012 11:29 AM

    The replacement officials are incompetent.

    The pro ones are bribed and fabricate decisions to affect games.

    The difference is only how you describe the results. The replacements make mistakes. The pros throw games.

    Which one is better?

  43. wwwfugu says: Sep 4, 2012 11:40 AM

    70 million is way too much.
    1 3/4″ is just about right.

  44. insanelomein2 says: Sep 4, 2012 11:46 AM

    NFL Referees average $150,000 a year over a 20 week period.

    Break that down each official is making $7500 a week.

    Give me that any day and I’ll be happy.

  45. sactogary says: Sep 4, 2012 11:49 AM

    Mike Florio: 1) best wishes to your son in his football season this year; 2) please take a look at the thumbs up/thumbs down ratio on the users comments here.

    You will notice that the overwhelming majority of your readers note the deficiencies of the replacements, but think the regular refs are being unreasonable. Sometimes you write as if the fans are against the NFL’s position, and sometimes you write as if fan sentiment is split, but in fact, it appears that a large majority of fans support the league in this dispute.

  46. sactogary says: Sep 4, 2012 11:56 AM

    kcsno56 says:Sep 4, 2012 9:28 AM

    $70 million over seven years…OR $312,500 per team, per season.

    Not so much when looking at it that way.
    ———————————————————
    True – all you need to do is join 24 other fans of your team to chip in a paltry $12,500 each per year for seven years, and your team’s share will be provided for.

  47. footballchic777 says: Sep 4, 2012 12:01 PM

    If I am not incorrect, one of the BIG sticking points is that the NFL wants to have a bench pool of refs to choose from should there be an issue with someone on the field. The NFLRA does NOT want that! All jobs depend upon job performance, and that should be NO different for these refs. These guys have gotten a little big for their britches, and need to take a step back into the real world. Yes, these replacements have made some blatantly bad calls. Yes, that HAS also happened with the regular refs. We CANNOT forget, these are PART TIME jobs. That doesn’t mean they are not appreciated, but it does mean they are paid to do a job, as a PART TIME EMPLOYEE, so do the job. What other part time employees do you know who receive the same benefits, pay, and travel that these guys get? NONE! Do not hold yourselves higher than the game, or you are in for a long hard fall!

  48. Frazier28/7 says: Sep 4, 2012 12:15 PM

    So, if a fan is going to attend a game this weekend officiated by replacement refs will they get a discount on tickets, concessions, beer, etc…

    The NFL is giving a discounted product when the main chaos control of 60 minutes of ‘there’s a time-out on the field’ action is being operated by people who have know idea what they’re doing.

    I surely wouldn’t want to pay $8 per beer, and $50+ per ticket when I’m getting an improperly officiated game.

    Games are going to be won and lost by the battles in the trenches that are not officiated properly.

    At the opening gates of stadium around the NFL I hope there is a big %25 off everything, cause that’s what they’re giving us a fans.

    Sure. Pay full price for a discounted product.

    That’ll solve your problem of making the games more enjoyable to go to then staying at home with your 60′ HDTV and fridge full of beer at $17.99 a case for Miller Lite.

  49. draftazoid says: Sep 4, 2012 12:18 PM

    Let them sit and rot!
    I hope the NFL has long term plans of training new and better Referees.
    The old bunch wasn’t very good.

    I think the NFL should offer the SEC and ACC officials what they are offering the current ones right now.

  50. justintuckrule says: Sep 4, 2012 12:23 PM

    Take notice players, this is how a TRUE union is supposed to band together.

  51. iamthefootballjerk says: Sep 4, 2012 12:46 PM

    To kind of piggy back jobiwon22′s position, I think the refs lose leverage as the season goes on. They need to strike while the iron is hot, like after week 2. Otherwise, the replacements will get more comfortable doing their jobs, and the mistakes will become less and less.

    What absolutely irritates the heck out of me is the refs pointing out mistakes on the replacements. I watch three to four games per weekend, and I am questioning a call in EVERY one of those games. Most of the time, multiple calls. Why do you think Fox hired Mike Perrera?!? Seriously!

  52. jamiebuf12 says: Sep 4, 2012 12:53 PM

    eyeh8goodell says:
    Sep 4, 2012 9:12 AM

    And every single week the scabs are out there butchering the job these guys’ leverage goes up. It’s refreshing to see the league office in a position of vulnerability for a change.

    i say total opposite of that…..every week the new refs will only get better and better and little by little some of the old refs will be asking if they can join the new refs along with the new rules the nfl wants……..they need to remember they work for the owners and the nfl…..i can’t wait to see bad officials get weeded out and graded….the money they make (for a part time job) they ought to fund their own pension…………i’d fire em’ all if it was up to me and then let the good ones re apply with the new system………………

  53. japmen says: Sep 4, 2012 12:53 PM

    Bottom line, the refs are part time and want a piece of the pie. They dont deserve the piece of the pie unless they work full time with larger crews and can be benched for being a bad ref. They actually think they are irreplaceable. Let’s break this union and fast. Part time employees that get $150,000 a year for part time work dont deserve a bigger piece of the pie. They deserve unemployment.

  54. rbirving says: Sep 4, 2012 1:09 PM

    I don’t care how much the refs make, its simply not my business and I don’t care.

    What I want is full time refs, not gonna get it so I don’t care what they do next.

    I do think that if they go into the season with the replacement refs, they should go the whole season. The quality of the game is not determined by the quality of the refs.

    From perspective, as a fan, I haven’t been convinced that part time officials have provided anything worthwhile to the game. The players do that on the field.

    If replacement refs mean that more games will be decided by the players and not by stupid calls, cool beans.

    What I do know, is that both teams have to deal with the same refs in that game. I suspect fewer have pre-existing preferences for the teams in the league.

    If we cannot have full time refs, we deserve refs that are accountable. If the refs make bad calls, they should be acknowledged, fined and benched if need be.

  55. brianfromcanada says: Sep 4, 2012 1:39 PM

    I think every week that goes by will lessen the NFLRA’s bargaining possession. The replacements can only get better. If the NFLRA strikes all season they might find themselves doing collage games next year.

  56. eaglesw00t says: Sep 4, 2012 1:42 PM

    I think some people here may not be getting the entire scope here… Let me quote this passage from the article

    ———————-
    “NFLRA spokesman Michael Arnold explained to PFT via email on Monday that the officials’ current proposal would have a total cost $30 million in 2012 in salary and benefits.

    It’s still not clear what the precise gap is. A league source tells PFT that, when the parties met on Saturday, the NFLRA reverted to their pre-lockout position, which creates a gap of up to $70 million over the seven-year life of the deal.
    ————————-

    It is a GAP of $70 million in what the referees are asking. That is not the total value of what they are asking for 7 years. They want $70 million MORE than what the NFL wants to pay them. The referees want a package of $30 million this season just to referee games.

    $30 million for referees this year? And an increase every year? I want to know the total value of the 7 year commitment, if they are $70 million dollars apart on agreeing to a deal…

    Then, they dont want to be full time employees (but they do want to have full benefits and a pension for part time labor), they dont want a bench pool, they dont want to have to answer to poor performance, and have any accountability…but want $70 million MORE???

    How many people show up on Sunday to watch referees? Because theyre sure acting as if theyre the talent here.

  57. brianfromcanada says: Sep 4, 2012 1:47 PM

    justintuckrule says:
    Sep 4, 2012 12:23 PM
    Take notice players, this is how a TRUE union is supposed to band together.

    We will see how that works out for them. They are not elite football players. they are people who get trained to do a certain job. The replacements will be shaky at first, but give them a year and they will be just as good as their predecessors.

  58. dolphincritic says: Sep 4, 2012 1:55 PM

    Why is it that I see owners getting worked up over $30 million let alone $70! These are owners that charge fans two to three times what a beer costs and double the price of water. I am pretty sure that the Replacement refs will get better as the season progresses and as long as the call a game equally bad for both sides, there is no advantage. The people taking the biggest hit will be the gamblers who live and die with the spread!

    My advice to the old refs would be:
    1. a half of a loaf is better than no loaf.
    2. Ask for some benefit that the owners don’t have to pay for immediately, like a retirement stipend.
    3. Don’t quit your day jobs, which you all have! Remember, this is a part time gig Guys!

  59. lippy4246 says: Sep 4, 2012 2:01 PM

    The fact is the referees make the owners $o in revenue. The beer guy makes the owners more money than the PART TIME refs. The owners want accountability which the referees don’t want. Why shouldn’t they be accountable to the league for poor performance? They want more money don’t they? The league even offered them full time jobs. They have to stop acting like they are part of the product and get me a hot dog and beer.

  60. essentialsausage says: Sep 4, 2012 2:18 PM

    Screw the greedy NFL refs. People like to whine about the replacement officials, but they are being scrutinized much more harshly than the NFL refs ever were.

  61. eyeh8goodell says: Sep 4, 2012 4:34 PM

    I wonder how many of you throwing adjectives like “greedy” at the officials have even stopped to consider the League Office’s track record for greed over the last decade or so. I doubt it, because then you could say that with a straight face.

    And i’ll bet a good many of you vote for the Corporate Shill Party in November.

  62. fanz928 says: Sep 4, 2012 5:59 PM

    Making more than veteran min? They don’t draw revenue and that’s bad and refuse to train others. Just fire them all and the replacement officials will eventually get enough experience and make better calls

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