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Jarrett Bush thinks the Packers beat themselves again

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You might think that the Packers are on a two-game losing streak of sorts after losses to the Giants in playoffs last year and to the 49ers on Sunday.

You’d be wrong, though. At least you’d be wrong if you looked at the world the same way as the Packers defense which seems to believe the team is actually on a two-game beating themselves streak.

Linebacker Clay Matthews made a stir in August when he said that the Giants didn’t beat the Packers at Lambeau in January, something that seemed to resonate with one of his teammates. Cornerback Jarrett Bush peddled the same line in the aftermath of San Francisco’s 30-22 season-opening victory.

“We beat ourselves. They really didn’t beat us,” Bush said, via Mike Woods of the Green Bay Press-Gazette. “We just have to hunker down and make sure we’re gap sound and get on the same page. Obviously, small things being miscommunicated on the field become big things, so they exploited us and that’s what happened.”

Outside the Packers defensive meeting room, people tend to think that the team doing a better job of exploiting the opposition’s miscommunications and mistakes gets to say that they have beaten the opposition. And the 49ers did a lot more than just exploit Packers mistakes on Sunday. They helped to create them with sharp offensive execution and the stout defensive play that got them to the NFC Championship Game last year.

In short, the 49ers beat the Packers and they beat them fairly decisively. Just like the Giants did in January. At some point the Packers might want to focus more on stopping that from happening instead of trying to rewrite history after the fact.

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  1. boiler72 says: Sep 10, 2012 11:32 AM

    Oh well.

    Packers 21, Bears 14
    Packers 31, Steelers 25
    Shoved it up Favre’s ass.

    My football life is complete, game over.

  2. beerbudsnbevo says: Sep 10, 2012 11:33 AM

    Yeah…OK

    Because we all saw with our own eyes how much the 49ers improved in the offseason…

    And the total confusion on the Packers Defense…

    Good thing for the Pack is that it’s just week 1

  3. simonizer85 says: Sep 10, 2012 11:33 AM

    Pretty sure Bush got beat, a lot.

  4. gtodriver says: Sep 10, 2012 11:33 AM

    This excuse was lame when Clay Mathews used it. You’d think Jarret Bush would be smarter enough not to use it a second time in the same year.

    All I know is that the Packers are looking up at the rest of the NFC North – just as it should be…

  5. rbirving says: Sep 10, 2012 11:34 AM

    spell it anyway you want to. The Packers are 0-1 and in for a rude awakening this year.

    They simply aren’t as good as people seem to think they are.

  6. jikkle49 says: Sep 10, 2012 11:34 AM

    The “They didn’t beat us but we beat ourselves” take is one of the worst takes in sports.

    Man up, admit you got beat, tip your cap, and work harder so it doesn’t happen again.

  7. skeebo80 says: Sep 10, 2012 11:34 AM

    Knew the niners would win the game. Bush needs to play defense and SHUTUP

  8. jjackwagon says: Sep 10, 2012 11:34 AM

    If you are a “packer” you probably shouldn’t talk about “beating yourself”. Just sayin’

  9. herlies says: Sep 10, 2012 11:34 AM

    What? You got beat in all 3 phases.

    Don’t be a turd and admit it.

  10. cakemixa says: Sep 10, 2012 11:34 AM

    Who’d have thought the Packers would be 0-2 against themselves?

  11. joecool16280 says: Sep 10, 2012 11:35 AM

    Don’t feel bad Bush you just got beat by the most complete team in the league.

  12. explosionsauce says: Sep 10, 2012 11:36 AM

    Packers never held a lead. That’s as far as this conversation needs to go.

  13. bakler5 says: Sep 10, 2012 11:36 AM

    Yea this is getting annoying to even Packers fans.

  14. jwcarlson says: Sep 10, 2012 11:36 AM

    As a Packer fan… the amount of yapping this offseason and now into the regular season is a sad departure from the way the Packers used to operate. Say it on the field… not on Twitter or the local news paper.

  15. thehighhat says: Sep 10, 2012 11:36 AM

    Jarrett Bush: another shining example of inner city education! Do the “mafh” buddy. 30 is more than 22. How’s he going to survive at his next job at the Post Office?

  16. 4t9er says: Sep 10, 2012 11:37 AM

    I think it’s unfair to concentrate on the opinion of one player since the majority of the Packers players gave a very respectful assessment of the 49ers.

  17. daknight93 says: Sep 10, 2012 11:38 AM

    excuses are for losers…get over it! move on to next game and stop whining

  18. sportswannabe says: Sep 10, 2012 11:38 AM

    Tough break for the Pack again…oh wait, the officiating nearly brought them back into yet another game they should have lost by about 10. That’s 2 straight games, now.

  19. dell52 says: Sep 10, 2012 11:38 AM

    Jarrett, Shut Up. We don’t like you, you miss a lot of assignments, you get out-played constantly, and when you do get beat you make an excuse. The few times you actually do your job, you go off and bob your head like you did something awesome. The 49ers came in and beat you, just like the Giants did. Man up and take it, and move on. 15 games left. -Sincerely, a Packers Fan

  20. dabceb says: Sep 10, 2012 11:39 AM

    Of all the people to talk. repeatedly during the game Aikman was saying the 49ers should exploit Bush with Randy Moss.

    Something noticed weird about the SF’s passing attack. On a couple of occasions Frisco went 5-wide with two TE’s and Moss on the bench, what’s up with that?

  21. bahoto34 says: Sep 10, 2012 11:39 AM

    Yup, and you could have used a few more calls from the refs going your way as well. This is getting old, how bout sucking it up and admitting that the niners played damn well yesterday. Instead of constantly whining, how bout you focus on the bears on thursday, because going 0-2 and 2 games behind them is whats going to really kill you if you don’t get your act together.

  22. piemasteruk says: Sep 10, 2012 11:39 AM

    It’s all semantics really. You beat yourself basically means you lost because of mistakes you made that you didn’t need to make, which describes every loss at NFL level. On any given Sunday any team can beat any other team if they execute to the highest possible level to which they are capable, so in actuality you can say for any loss that the team ‘beat themselves’. If that motivates the Packers to eliminate those mistakes and do better next time then… whatever works for them I guess.

    For the record I am a 49ers fan so I’m certainly not an apologist in this regard. Our guys outplayed your guys last night, and whether you want to frame that us us playing well or you playing badly is up to you, the end result is the same.

  23. burm61 says: Sep 10, 2012 11:39 AM

    What are you talking about? The 49ers came in and dominated you. The refs made the score close but it was a physical blowout.

  24. hutch119 says: Sep 10, 2012 11:39 AM

    You have been throughly beat out twice in a row at home. Games weren’t even competitive. Just shut up.

  25. reppster says: Sep 10, 2012 11:39 AM

    Actually they did really beat you, they beat you 30-22.

  26. theysone says: Sep 10, 2012 11:40 AM

    Yeah, plays like the punt return for a TD that was called back due to a blatant block in the back.

    49ers held the Pack to 15 offensive points, in their house, while efficiently hanging 30 points in s hostile environment.

    No beating around the bush, the Pack was outplayed.

  27. myvickinabox14 says: Sep 10, 2012 11:40 AM

    The players are just like the fans. The most obnoxious fans, and players, in the league. Ever meet one, it’s terrible!!

  28. lbpackfan says: Sep 10, 2012 11:40 AM

    As a die hard Packer fan, the “we beat ourselves” lines are getting ridiculous.

    Niners were a better team yesterday…maybe they are a better team overall.

    No excuses from me…

  29. mrrodgersneighborhood says: Sep 10, 2012 11:41 AM

    As a packer fan…Jarrett Bush you should really sit down and shut up until you learn how to cover something other than punts

  30. pacific123ocean says: Sep 10, 2012 11:41 AM

    Come on Jarrett…give credit where credit is earned. You don’t have to like it, but the Niners beat the Packers again. They are a very good team. There is no shame in losing to the Niners.

  31. aaronrodgersbelt says: Sep 10, 2012 11:42 AM

    Once again, obvious Packer fan here, but you got beat, dude. Flat out, the 49ers beat you. Take your loss like a man, learn and move on. The excuses are getting old

  32. pkrjones says: Sep 10, 2012 11:42 AM

    Huge Packer fan, here. Jarrett, shut the hell up and do your job… until then the other team DID beat you. Good game 49’ers.

  33. ronin36 says: Sep 10, 2012 11:42 AM

    At some point the “we beat ourselves” story is going to get thin.

    That point was reached the first time it was said after the KC game last year.

    Until the guys in Green & Gold look in the mirror and say “we lost” they’re not going to get better.

    Shove the arrogance in the trash can, it’s overdue.

  34. direwolf748 says: Sep 10, 2012 11:43 AM

    hahaha alex smith was picking on jarret bush all day. that guy is a scrub

  35. omahakidw says: Sep 10, 2012 11:43 AM

    Jarrett Bush is smoking something, at some point you must be able to articulate the situation (and this case the game) correctly and understand “you got beat by the better team today” ! I understand your “smoking something”, that you might be injesting something illegal, but you lost , so you and that other long hair guy on your squad just need to admit that “YOUR NOT THAT GOOD…..PERIOD” !

  36. goat2060 says: Sep 10, 2012 11:43 AM

    Yes they did… Because they let Bush on the field .

  37. Ghost Rat says: Sep 10, 2012 11:43 AM

    Oh shut up, Bush. You got your tails kicked, plain and simple. Those picking the Packers to win the Super Bowl did so with the belief that the defense would get better. Yesterday the Packers made the 49ers look like the ’07 Patriots.

  38. asublimeday says: Sep 10, 2012 11:43 AM

    As opposed to when the packers typically use the refs to beat their opponents

    The 49ers should just be glad none of the male packer fans got grabby.

  39. thankheavenfornumberseven says: Sep 10, 2012 11:44 AM

    I have a feeling the Packers are going to beat themselves a lot this year. That whole no defense, no running game approach to football may not work as well this year.

  40. handipacked says: Sep 10, 2012 11:44 AM

    Can we please retire the overused phrase, “we beat ourselves.”

  41. geniusfan says: Sep 10, 2012 11:45 AM

    Just like the playoff game the Packers are deluding themselves. This game wasn’t as close as the final score indicated, that punt return score should not have counted.

    The 49ers were better and probably will be better in January. Green Bay’s defense still stinks and they can’t run the ball at all it will catch up to them just like last year.

  42. peopletrains says: Sep 10, 2012 11:47 AM

    I am a Packer fan who watched the entire game and I can honestly say that with the exception of a 7-8 minutes stretch late in the game, the 49ers dominated. The Green Bay defense is just not physical. Hopefully they learned something from playing the 49ers in week 1.

  43. bovice23 says: Sep 10, 2012 11:47 AM

    Someone should remind them they won the SB TWO years ago. It’s time to move on from being so entitled.

  44. ranksarot says: Sep 10, 2012 11:48 AM

    if you have ever played organized football you would know this is just coach speak to get the players to minimize mistakes. Coaches say this stuff to players all the time. We beat ourselves. Fix what we did wrong so we can win next time. Not a big deal. No need to knock the players for repeating what they have been told after countless losses by their coaches.

  45. njchaltry says: Sep 10, 2012 11:49 AM

    Bush should be the last one to talk. He got beat all day by the receivers. It’s not right when you have to cringe when you see him on the field. If he doesn’t get beat, he’s causing some kind of useless penalty and he’s always smack talking the receiver after an incomplete pass. Coming from a Packer fan, keep your mouth shut Bush and focus on your own play on the field. Or keep talking from the bench for all I care.

  46. greglandry says: Sep 10, 2012 11:49 AM

    Aww c’mon. The Packers didn’t lose they just ran out of time, they also beat themselves and lets not forget my two all-time favorite Cheese Head excuses….they came out flat and were done in by bad officiating.

    All kidding aside. This GB team doesn’t match-up well with physical teams. The 49ers controlled this game from start to finish at Lambeau.

    As for the new & improved GB defense. Alex Smith & Frank Gore had little trouble moving the ball. I doubt Jay Cutler or Matthew Stafford will either.

  47. 4evrnyt says: Sep 10, 2012 11:49 AM

    The Packers are clearly just a bunch of primadonnas that simply can’t handle the fact that they aren’t the media darlings anymore, the glow from their SB victories has long faded and they expect everyone to still treat them like champions.

  48. richndc says: Sep 10, 2012 11:49 AM

    Wrong. No doubt they beat themselves last year in the playoffs against the Giants, a 2 year old could see that. Yesterday, they were simply handed defeat by a team who outplayed them.

  49. Johnny Chingas says: Sep 10, 2012 11:50 AM

    I love how no matter who the 49ers beat someone always has to start talking about how they didn’t legitimately win the game…It’s always some fluke or lapse in play by the opposition. This team is hungry, disciplined, smart and aggressive…they will take their respect no matter what people say.

  50. Stupid Raiders Fan says: Sep 10, 2012 11:50 AM

    Well maybe you should stop beating yourself then

  51. gunndlewittlebaum says: Sep 10, 2012 11:52 AM

    How delusional can these cheeseheads get? The Packers got spanked, end of story.

  52. larryboodry says: Sep 10, 2012 11:52 AM

    Next up to help them ‘beat themselves’ – Da Bears!

  53. fcs34 says: Sep 10, 2012 11:53 AM

    Jarret who ? This guy is a stiff just like the rest of the Green Bay D. Can’t stop the run, horrible tackling and no secondary. Clay Mathews spends alot more time being pancaked then he does celebrating sacks.

    If it wasn’t for a total non-call on the punt return TD this game wouldn’t have even been close.

  54. downsouth49er says: Sep 10, 2012 11:53 AM

    Well at least the packers have a lot of cheese to go with that whine.

  55. mikey77750 says: Sep 10, 2012 11:54 AM

    I am a Packers fan, but geez, shut up defensive players (if you can call them defensive players). We stink on defense, plain and simple. It’s only one loss, but you don’t think Jay Cutler is salivating about playing this defense Thursday night. I hope we beat the Bears, but I will not be surprised if we go 0-2. And then titletown will be in roaring panic mode.

  56. eastcoastninerfan says: Sep 10, 2012 11:55 AM

    Well it’s one thing for Clay Matthews Jr to say this…but this guy? Really?

    But hats off to the Packers as they made the game enjoyable till the very end and I’m so proud of my team. The Niners were simply the better team on this given Sunday…that’s all. The Packers are a great team and hopefully Rodgers will put together another stellar campaign (he’s on my fantasy team, hehe) and we’ll look forward to another opportunity in January.

    God I love NFL Football!!!!

  57. goldrush36 says: Sep 10, 2012 11:55 AM

    Yeah because they never play better teams right? Great team but this sentiment that if they lose its only because they beat themselves is a joke. They were out played and out coached again. No need to try to discredit your opponent for kicking your ass. Especially when you got 14 points off the refs. There were bad calls both ways but the game was nowhere close to what the score says

  58. faultylogic29 says: Sep 10, 2012 11:56 AM

    I was at the game. I hate to admit it, but the 49ers were the better team. We were overpowered by a more physical team. End of story. This “we beat ourselves” BS isn’t doing any good.

    It’s a long season and the Pack will recover though, starting by beating the Bears on Thursday.

  59. 49erstim says: Sep 10, 2012 11:56 AM

    For the love of all things sacred…… So they’re undefeated???? These guys beat themselves more often than a teenager that just disccovered Cinemax’s very late night movies!

  60. brenenostler says: Sep 10, 2012 11:59 AM

    And if you ask Jim Harbaugh, I’m sure he’d say “Yeah we shouldn’t have won. They had a bad game.”

  61. giantsfan2104 says: Sep 10, 2012 12:00 PM

    Sore losers.

  62. tudortom says: Sep 10, 2012 12:00 PM

    Just because Bush is an idiot, you can’t put that attitude on the team or the fans. Other players knew that they just plain got beat. Bush is a liability. It says a lot when he is the best option.

  63. aces79 says: Sep 10, 2012 12:00 PM

    The 49ers Defense got a lil sloopy near the end of the game when Green Bay scored that last T.D refs killed most of the game anyways good game.

  64. thankheavenfornumberseven says: Sep 10, 2012 12:05 PM

    Even at 0-0-0-1 (no wins, no losses, no ties, one beat themselves), they’re still in last place in the NFC North.

  65. aa1829 says: Sep 10, 2012 12:07 PM

    Since we are a passing team with an Oline designed to pass block, who thinks it was a big mistake to run on first down for 1 yard time after time. It didn’t work, and we kept doing it. Opening up the passing game by running, instead of the other way around?

  66. gpack22 says: Sep 10, 2012 12:08 PM

    Bush is a dumb with the mic in his face as he is playing DB. This clown should only be available for special teams and nothing else. EVER!!

  67. supermariojosh says: Sep 10, 2012 12:12 PM

    Bush (worst player on the team BTW) is the only player making these stupid comments. The rest of the Packers players and us fans know that it was an old fashioned butt whooping. 49er’s get all the credit in the world.

    But again, give it a rest on the freaking punt return – there were a bunch of non-calls (false starts and pass interferences mostly) that should have gone against the 49er’s as well. That’s not an excuse because it didn’t affect the outcome of the game – 49er’s kicked our tails regardless – but there were bad calls both ways. They evened out in the end.

  68. baymac408 says: Sep 10, 2012 12:12 PM

    Yea packers beat themselves for sure… They beat them selves by playing the NINERS this season!! We haveimproved so much this offseason, and that was just one game to show the work they put in so far! Get ready to witness another great season green bay was just one game we got more to WIN.. To be honest bush is lucky he didn’t get ran over in the open field when Vernon got that cross.. Bush should be thankful he got a leg! And thankful they only play us 1 time this regular season.. Let’s get it NINERS!!

  69. taintedsaints2009 says: Sep 10, 2012 12:18 PM

    so how many blocks in the back did you guys count on that punt return?

  70. mistakenny says: Sep 10, 2012 12:19 PM

    Jarrett who ?? Hes right the niners didnt beat the packers they managed them into submission

  71. rc33 says: Sep 10, 2012 12:27 PM

    Unlike New England, Green Bay’s lousy defense does not appear improved in 2012.

  72. 7ransponder says: Sep 10, 2012 12:29 PM

    These 2012 Packers are really starting to remind me of the 2010 Vikings. Super high expectations, prideful players and a very suspect defense. Pride cometh before the fall…

  73. matthewcarlson1 says: Sep 10, 2012 12:29 PM

    Packers are at the bottom of the nfc north. Right where they should be.

  74. dcviking says: Sep 10, 2012 12:33 PM

    anybody know the opening line for the Packers vs. Ourselves on Thursday night?

  75. gtodriver says: Sep 10, 2012 12:34 PM

    tudortom says:

    “Just because Bush is an idiot, you can’t put that attitude on the team or the fans.”

    Bush probably is an idiot.

    But he’s not the first Packer (or Packer fan) to use this excuse.

    Ever hear of a guy called the “Claymaker”?

    I lived in WI for 23 years – from 1983 – 2005 – I’ve heard their fans make thousands of lame excuses over the years.

    I see Lambeau didn’t sellout again yesterday – paid attendance was only 70,253 vs a published capacity of over 73,000.

  76. bougin89 says: Sep 10, 2012 12:36 PM

    It’s ironic that our worst defensive player is saying “they didn’t beat us, we beat ourselves”. Must have watched a different game than I did because the 49ers outplayed and outcoached us.

    I do like how the comments are coming out that the Packers are basically finished or the worst team in the NFC North. Please. The last two seasons we ended with a super bowl and losing to the super bowl champs, respectively. Unless you’re a Giant’s fan you probably shouldn’t talk.

  77. sugarray1 says: Sep 10, 2012 12:39 PM

    Can you say DENIAL??! If it wasn’t for the gift punt return it would have been alot worse. The Niners didn’t play vry well in the second half. Hopefully we get you in the playoffs Mr. Bush, just so we know we’ll be moving on…..your day has passed Packer dude!

  78. rodgerthat12 says: Sep 10, 2012 12:44 PM

    I have said this for at least the last 3 or 4 years. If Jarrett Bush is on the field we are in trouble. When i found out he is “Starting” at db i wanted to stick my head in the mud. Now he has access to interviews….uhg! If the packs answer to fixing the defense is starting bush, its going to be a long year. Our beloved packers got kicked in the teeth straight from a much better team. The score isn’t even close to the actual outcome of that game…..

  79. theandy59 says: Sep 10, 2012 12:44 PM

    I guess players are just as susceptible to that type of logic as fans. One of the hallmarks of a great, championship caliber team is the ability to avoid beating themselves. If you’re doing that repeatedly (and according to Packers players they’ve done it twice in a row), you’re not a very good football team.

  80. contra74 says: Sep 10, 2012 12:48 PM

    This team is ridiculous isnt it folks?

    From the fans to the players on the field, its one excuse after another if a game does not result in a win.

    Its sad that these self entitled divas do not see themselves how the rest of the NFL fans see them…a joke!

  81. iluvbears says: Sep 10, 2012 12:49 PM

    They lost the game, fair and square, to a much superior team. How is that beating themselves?

  82. 1phd says: Sep 10, 2012 12:51 PM

    We beat ourselves can be used in games like lasts years NFC Championship game. The proper description for yesterday’s game however is, they beat our butt quite convincingly.

  83. patriotinvasion says: Sep 10, 2012 12:52 PM

    Blah. Pretty sure I saw 2 teams go in to Lambeau and put a whoopin’ on the Pack. Don’t have any allegiance to either team, but I remember this was the mentality of the early 2000’s Steelers after the Patriots owned them time after time. Fueled my disdain for all things Pittsburgh.

  84. 760raptor says: Sep 10, 2012 1:00 PM

    49ers fan here – Bush is just frustated. Packers are still a VERY GOOD team. Rogers is a GREAT QB and they are never out of it if he’s playing. Proof was yesterday as they made a late push.

    Niners played the best I’ve seen them play in an opener since the Walsh days. Niners were better yesterday period.

    But it is ONLY week one.

    That doesn’t necessarily mean they will be better than GB in January when it really counts. Both teams should be there, hopefully playing at a high level.

  85. muskyhunter2542 says: Sep 10, 2012 1:03 PM

    Look, Im a Packer fan. Bush got beat early and often…. This dude just sucks!!!

  86. markpackman says: Sep 10, 2012 1:05 PM

    I’m a life-long Packer fan, but anyone who watched the game had to see what I saw – the Pack got beat by a more physical, more refined Niners team. The GB secondary looked like the Keystone Cops, and the offensive line was a sieve. Now, they have plenty of new players, and there were some definite communication problems. I think the flaws are fixable, but you don’t fix them by saying “we beat ourselves”. Watch the film, analyze the mistakes, and FIX them!

  87. jimmysee says: Sep 10, 2012 1:05 PM

    I’m a Packers fan — but regardless of who beats them, the Packers or their opponent, if they keep this up, they’ll be 0-16!

    :-(

  88. tsi431 says: Sep 10, 2012 1:15 PM

    Oh how nice it would be to in a division with the Cardinals, Seahawks, and Rams. Easy 6 games to win off the bat.

    I wouldn’t say the ref’s made either team win or lose. But they were definitely inept, and were drive killers, whether you look at the non call block in the back on the return, no call false starts, face masks, Pass Interferences, etc. They seem to all be on 3rd down.

    Even with the original ref’s the Pack would of lost this one.

  89. getadealdonealready says: Sep 10, 2012 1:19 PM

    Something noticed weird about the SF’s passing attack. On a couple of occasions Frisco went 5-wide with two TE’s and Moss on the bench, what’s up with that?

    ——————

    SF fans you will soon come to realize that Moss is an older shell of himself, and as long as you win you have a chance of making it through the season without any major disruption from him, but he is a ticking time bomb, and not from a blow up on the field type of way, before this season is over he will mess with the chemistry of that team in the locker room. I’m not a niners fan but feel they are a good enough team without Moss. They don’t need this cancer in their locker room, and not sure why he is on that roster.

  90. jaymc1988 says: Sep 10, 2012 1:19 PM

    packers sense of winning entitlement is getting overboard.. anyone who watched there last to games (giants and niners) know you got manhandled convincingly. not only that you had 13 players of the field if you call the refs inability to call anything against the packers esp on that TD return which there were like 2-3 block in the backs… and still lost.. you lost you should of won because you got beat in every phase… not to mention didnt bush get scorched almost the entire game..lol

  91. hipstercagematch says: Sep 10, 2012 1:20 PM

    Shut it Bush the 49ers still beat your team and your QB will now be wearing an Alex Smith jersey the rest of the week.

  92. bearzfan says: Sep 10, 2012 1:21 PM

    myvickinabox14 says:Sep 10, 2012 11:40 AM

    The players are just like the fans. The most obnoxious fans, and players, in the league. Ever meet one, it’s terrible!!
    __________

    Couldn’t have said it better myself. The players must be hanging out with their myopic fans. Might as well start planning now how they will “beat themselves” again this Thursday when Cutler rocks them.

  93. souldogdave says: Sep 10, 2012 1:21 PM

    There is no shame to losing when your opponent is a championship caliber team playing at mid-season form. But to “beat yourself” implies anyone else would have won, regardless. That you couldn’t win that day because you kept getting in your own way. It calls out the coaches, since they “obviously” did a bad job and had a bad game plan. SF deserved the win, earned it on the road in a hostile stadium, and beat you fair and square. Learn from it. And I can’t wait to see Rodgers in the 49 jersey he has to wear because of his bet with “Boys 2 Men” lol.

  94. Canned Heat says: Sep 10, 2012 1:27 PM

    This denial crap has got to end in Green Bay. First Matthews and now Bush….and I’m sure both were slightly taken out of context for a good story line.

    The Packers got smacked around by a more physical team and conditioned team on both sides of the ball….and this is coming from a season ticket holder who was at the game. Watched some of it last night off the DVR and they looked even worse than I thought.

    Until this team gets any semblance of a running game that they really haven’t had since Grant went down with the ankle injury years ago…the Pack is one dimensional. Granted this defense is young and should get better as the year progresses, but this is really alarming…even if only one game.

    Packers lay an egg on Thursday against the Bears, and this may turn into one long season for every Pack fan.

    And give the credit where it is due…..that Niners team is the team to beat in the NFC….and yes, I watched every snap of the Giants/Dallas game. Romo should be thanking the league office that he doesn’t face San Fran in the regular season.

  95. walleyejon says: Sep 10, 2012 1:28 PM

    I’m also a Packer fan, and frankly Bush has had 6 years to show he’s anything more than a good special teamer. #epicfailure.

  96. purpleguy says: Sep 10, 2012 1:31 PM

    For cripes sake, it’s one stinking game — we apparently need to remove all sharp objects from the state of Wisconsin and commence Hall of Fame enshrinement proceedings for the entire 49ers team. The Pack isn’t necessarily as bad as anyone thinks, nor are the 49ers as good as everyone thinks.

  97. glac1 says: Sep 10, 2012 1:31 PM

    I’ve always been a Packer fan. and am worried because we’ve dropped three out of four games…. played without passion and couldn’t tackle. We better be concerned.

  98. kevishu says: Sep 10, 2012 1:32 PM

    I’m a Packer fan, and what I saw yesterday was a well coached team beat another team that looked poorly coached and unprepared.

    To say the Packers beat themselves is absurd. The game you bring to the field every week is a product of both your talent, coaching, and overall preparation. Packers have talent, but lack in coaching and preparation, which is easily exposed when facing tough competition. The Packers didn’t beat themselves. They just faced a better team that exposed their weaknesses.

    The 49ers will very likely be the team to beat this year. Not sure who would be better than them.

  99. supermariojosh says: Sep 10, 2012 1:37 PM

    gtodriver says: Sep 10, 2012 12:34 PM

    tudortom says:

    “Just because Bush is an idiot, you can’t put that attitude on the team or the fans.”

    Bush probably is an idiot.

    But he’s not the first Packer (or Packer fan) to use this excuse.

    Ever hear of a guy called the “Claymaker”?

    I lived in WI for 23 years – from 1983 – 2005 – I’ve heard their fans make thousands of lame excuses over the years.

    I see Lambeau didn’t sellout again yesterday – paid attendance was only 70,253 vs a published capacity of over 73,000.
    ——————–
    You raise a good point, the Packers (and their fanst) are the only team in pro sports to ever claim to have played poorly and thus “beat themselves.” NOBODY but the Packers and their fans has or will ever use this excuse. If you lived in any state for 23 years, you’d hear that state’s fan base make the exact same claims. Duh.

    You also apparently don’t have a clear grasp on what a “sellout” is and what paid attendance means. All tickets were sold, thus a sellout. Not all ticket buyers showed up, hence the paid attendance disparity – which could be the result of many things, not the least of which was probably rich box seat owners having something better to do with their millions yesterday. Again, duh.

  100. thejuddstir says: Sep 10, 2012 1:39 PM

    The Packers defense is…..BAD. The past two years they could hide their defensive defeciencies because of the huge leads they had due to offense but when Packers are in close games which seems to be more and more frequent, they are in trouble. I submit that opposing defenses have figured out how to slow down and do a much better job of containing the passing game. Discount double-check is finding it more difficult which does not bode well for the pack. As for clay matthews, he’s off the juice and not nearly as effective. woodson has become a liability, he couldn’t cover an offensive lineman without holding him.

  101. edavidberg says: Sep 10, 2012 1:39 PM

    The Pack have regressed. The Bears new wide receivers have left them greatly improved. Not saying the Packers aren’t second best in the NFC behind San Fran but they have definitely moved closer to the pack.

  102. Canned Heat says: Sep 10, 2012 1:42 PM

    matthewcarlson1 says:
    Sep 10, 2012 12:29 PM
    Packers are at the bottom of the nfc north. Right where they should be.
    ____________________________________

    For the record….I saved this as a Word document so I can keep pasting and continually remind you all year how ridiculous this comment was if/when you come back to reality.

    Bears, Lions and Vikings were all playing the NFL equivalent of the St. Peters Sisters of the Poor’s scrimmage teams. Packers on the other hand played a team that looks like they could run the table. Packers have no running game and a porous defense, and they will still likely pound the snot of of the Lions and the Vikes….who both did everything in their power to try to lose to the bottom of the NFL barrel yesterday. Stafford looking solid with 4 picks…did I mention…to THE RAMS!!

    The Bears will be a match on Thursday, but they played a rookie starting his first game. If that really has you jacked , you either just converted to American football or you’re on track for your GED in a few years down the road yet.

  103. castleofcheese says: Sep 10, 2012 1:52 PM

    That’s funny because Bush has spent his entire career getting beat by everyone, except himself… and I’m a Packers fan. We got our butts kicked yesterday. Plain and simple.

  104. jhtobias says: Sep 10, 2012 1:52 PM

    Packer fans are getting tired of morons like bush saying we beat ourselves.. As much as I love the Packers this is classes and insulting to the niners who are a much better team..

    Packers defense should learn to stop the run and get off the field on third down..

    In Bush defense he probabley was in shock that aj hawk had a great game.

  105. sfsaintsfan says: Sep 10, 2012 1:53 PM

    They will be on a three game streak after Thursday Night….

  106. lrt79 says: Sep 10, 2012 1:55 PM

    Sometimes, having a historically bad defense can’t be helped by having a great offense.

    I don’t expect sore losers to understand that.

  107. lbpackfan says: Sep 10, 2012 1:58 PM

    contra74 says:
    Sep 10, 2012 12:48 PM
    This team is ridiculous isnt it folks?

    From the fans to the players on the field, its one excuse after another if a game does not result in a win.

    Its sad that these self entitled divas do not see themselves how the rest of the NFL fans see them…a joke!

    ———————————-

    Contra – you continue to look like a fool with your posts.

    No matter what team, ANY loss, theres gonna be bitter fans who make excuses. I am not one of them. The Niners are the best team in the NFC…they showed it yesterday. Tough loss, but I think it will be good for the Packers to start off with a tough schedule and NOT a cake one.

    Why arent you enjoying the Vikes win vs Jags…and posting on the Viking posts? Now THAT is kind of funny. Please continue to spew your jealousy, sir.

    Also…as far as “the rest of the league thinking we’re a joke” … go check out the latest ESPN the Magazine…

  108. philtration says: Sep 10, 2012 2:01 PM

    Canned Heat says:
    Sep 10, 2012 1:42 PM

    Bears, Lions and Vikings were all playing the NFL equivalent of the St. Peters Sisters of the Poor’s scrimmage teams. Packers on the other hand played a team that looks like they could run the table. Packers have no running game and a porous defense, and they will still likely pound the snot of of the Lions and the Vikes….who both did everything in their power to try to lose to the bottom of the NFL barrel yesterday. Stafford looking solid with 4 picks…did I mention…to THE RAMS!!

    The Bears will be a match on Thursday, but they played a rookie starting his first game. If that really has you jacked , you either just converted to American football or you’re on track for your GED in a few years down the road yet.
    ===================================

    It was one game and they lost to a very good 49ers team but as a Bears fan I am glad that they have this arrogant yet whiney thing going on once again.
    If they lose to the bears on Thursday night then they have some real concerns.
    That would already pout you two games back in the division and with two losses in the NFC a wild card spot is now is jeopardy.

    And spare me about the whole “The Bears beat a rookie QB” thing.
    You were more than happy to have Jay Cutler out in the NFC championship game and they still almost lost to Caleb Hanie.
    You play the teams and players on your schedule and you don’t cry about it when it does not go your way.

  109. gtodriver says: Sep 10, 2012 2:03 PM

    supermariojosh says:

    “You also apparently don’t have a clear grasp on what a “sellout” is and what paid attendance means. All tickets were sold, thus a sellout. Not all ticket buyers showed up, hence the paid attendance disparity – which could be the result of many things, not the least of which was probably rich box seat owners having something better to do with their millions yesterday. Again, duh.”

    As usual, a Packer fan has no clue.

    “Official attendance” isn’t the number of people that enter the gates – they only count the number of tickets sold. It’s been that way for decades, but I guess I shouldn’t expect a Packer fan to admit and/or know that.

    Yesterday, playing the 49ers in what was a highly hyped game, the Packers “official paid attendance was 70,253 – or 96.7% of capacity.

    In Chicago, playing the Colts in what was fully expected to be a blowout, the Bears “official paid attendance” was 62,341 – or 101.4% of capacity.

    Besides Chicago, Denver, Houston, and Tennessee had “official paid attendance of 100% or more.

    So now you can either accept the reality of what “official paid attendance” means or you can admit that Chicago, Houston, Tennessee, New York (Giants) and New Orleans have more dedicated fans (willing to actually show up to a game).

    Either way, the Packers attendance isn’t as great as what the typical Packer fan claims.

    You choose….

    BTW – I’m not a Bear fan – just someone that has been fully exposed to what the average Packer fan is like.

  110. thetokyosandblaster says: Sep 10, 2012 2:04 PM

    Lots of packet hate. That’s fine.

    Truth is, the refs were bad both ways, so for the idiots saying that they kept the packers close, you obviously missed the calls that ended drives for the packers, most notably the face mask sack on the last drive that made it 3rd and 17.

    Fact: the packers lost to another super bowl contender by one score. Saying one team is bad is saing the other team is bad.

  111. thepvyharvin says: Sep 10, 2012 2:07 PM

    These Packer players are just taking on the personality of their fans,,,obnoxious blowhards who make excuses for failures,,should it be getting burned by receivers or burning the big ,fatty bratwursts,it gets sickening. Packers are on their way to the NFC North basement just like most their fans living in their mothers,,,

  112. greglandry says: Sep 10, 2012 2:11 PM

    matthewcarlson1- Packers are fine. Everyone else in the NFL really sucks. Just wait and you’ll see.

    An extended period of winning for GB has resulted in the creation of these kind of arrogant, entitled blow-hard fans. Most of Packer Nation is made of up of very nice people. But I think all of us has come into contact with the matthewcarlson1 type and it’s getting really old.

    I’m sure you were one of the experts that paraded around here last week predicting a 35-14 GB win. How’d that work out for you?

  113. winkeroni says: Sep 10, 2012 2:17 PM

    If Green Bay doesn’t wake up they will be battling the Vikings for 3rd place.

  114. contra74 says: Sep 10, 2012 2:19 PM

    These self entitled divas keep expecting things to come their way because they are a part of the Packers. If they lose its not their fault but if they win they talk about how amazing all things Green Bay are. Its sickening how spineless their players and their fans are when they lose. Just accept the loss you divas!

  115. packeye says: Sep 10, 2012 2:28 PM

    As a Packer fan, I have no excuses. The 49ers simply outplayed them in many aspects. The defense looked lost most of the time, no communication and horrible tackling. Too many times last year the defense has relied on the offense to bail them out and against an elite defense like the 9ers have, our offense got brought back down from elite to “good”. If we plan on winning Thursday this defense has to step it up a notch.

    Once again, props to the 49ers for winning, they are looking like the team to beat in the NFC.

  116. packeye says: Sep 10, 2012 2:30 PM

    I also believe our running game will look a lot better against a poorer defense.

  117. thetokyosandblaster says: Sep 10, 2012 2:31 PM

    And Greg Landry, all teams have those, regardless of winning. Look at lions and Vikings fans on these boards. Just as bad, if not worse, and they’ve never won anything. Ever.

  118. hodag54501 says: Sep 10, 2012 2:45 PM

    Well, I see pervy is back. The Vikings win one game and now he thinks what he says any sort of meaning.

    That said, as a Packers fan since 1961, I think this squad is living in a fantasyland. Bush is the most glaring example of some really subpar players pretending to be All-Pros.
    Anyone watching Sunday saw a 49’ers team whip Green Bay with solid, no nonsense, old-time football.
    The McCarthy Packers are really a bunch of whiney wooses. The Giants beat them by being more physical and running the ball. So did the 49’ers. The only guy on the team willing to do some damage is Matthews, maybe Raji. The rest of the team plays like God has bestowed on them some kind of divine gift of championship instead of having to earn it.
    The Packers can’t run the ball. The linebackers are inferior(especially compared to the 49’ers), the secondary is a joke, excepting Williams. Woodson is old and mostly out of position. The offensive line is mediocre.The defensive line gets pushed around.

    I’m a Packers fan, but McCarthy had better start facing facts: he can’t match up anymore by just throwing the ball, and the defense better get better in a hurry.

    9-7 is the best I can see for this bunch.

  119. tonyc920 says: Sep 10, 2012 2:45 PM

    LIFETIME PACKER FAN HERE,
    My Packers were soundly beaten by a very good 49ers team. The score didn’t justify the actual results. Same problems I was concerned about last season in the playoffs, NO PRESSURE on the quarterback from the interior of the D Line and our Left Tackle can’t handle the speed rush from a hybrid linebacker. 49ers defense looked spectacular. I think the Pack can work out thier issues and I hope to see a rematch with the 49ers for the NFC Championship.

  120. deltaoracle says: Sep 10, 2012 4:00 PM

    If GB had lost by 3 points or less I would agree, because McCarthy and Rodgers both made some incredibly dumb decisions at the end of the first half to allow SF to get the ball back with a timeout remaining and get the miracle fg. But as it was, the Pack just lost to a better team. And if they keep using Bush as a CB for many games, they will lose at least 5 or 6 more. He’s a great guy, very good special teamer, maybe can play a little safety. But he has no business playing CB in the NFL. I almost cried when I saw him lined up across from Moss.

  121. mrbiz8505 says: Sep 10, 2012 4:13 PM

    Then they are going to “beat themselves” for the 3rd straight game on Thursday against Da Bears

  122. jaymc1988 says: Sep 10, 2012 4:16 PM

    contra74 says:
    Sep 10, 2012 2:19 PM
    These self entitled divas keep expecting things to come their way because they are a part of the Packers. If they lose its not their fault but if they win they talk about how amazing all things Green Bay are. Its sickening how spineless their players and their fans are when they lose. Just accept the loss you divas!

    __________________
    thats not really accurate..from 95 percent of the comments ive seen on various websites packers fans understand they got beat yesterday and vs giants..its the actual players who dont understand there D completely blows outside clay matthews, woodson and williams…there fans arnt making any excuses from what i see

  123. Kelly's Chronicles says: Sep 10, 2012 4:33 PM

    You know your in trouble when Jarrett Bush is your starting cornerback…..

  124. judsonjr says: Sep 10, 2012 4:57 PM

    Fans from other teams should keep in mind that Packer fans have screamed “Why?” every time this guy has been resigned. He’s also the guy who tried to play hero in the 2007 NFCCG by trying to scoop and run a late 4th Quarter fumble instead of falling on it.

    Now for all the dopes saying the Niners “out physicalled” the Packers, you are morons who only look at the box score.

    The Niners won on competence and execution. They had 0 blown coverages and made tackles every time. They also didn’t cram the ball down the Packers throats, they took it outside to exploit the slowness of our MLBs. Did you see CM3 completely blow up a convoy of blockers only to have no one else there to clean up? Did you see Hawk get sucked inside on Gore’s TD run and then give up halfway through the play.

    The Packer O-line did a decent job pass blocking. Did you hear about Justin Smith at all? Did you see him planting Brees and Manning repeatedly in the playoffs last year? Aldon Smith was the main nemesis, there were plays where Rodgers would have run for 10+ yards against 90% of the league, but Smith completely held those in check to little or no gain.

    You are the same morons that call talk radio and ask why the Packers don’t play/trade/get the ball to guys that are no longer on the roster.

  125. packerbacker12 says: Sep 10, 2012 5:00 PM

    Jarrett Bush should be the last person to say anything at all. I admit he is a damn good special teamer but he has absolutely no cover skills. I was completely baffled to see him start yesterday. It was even more baffling to see him start across from Randy Moss, of all players.

    He just needs to realize the 49ers were clearly the better team yesterday. I admit the refs were horrible but that is no excuse at all. The Packers were not ready to face that 49er defense, which, I might add, is outstanding. As for the Packers defense, if you make Alex Smith look like an All-Pro, there is a problem. Let’s hope the Packers patch things up before Thursday Night.

  126. contra74 says: Sep 10, 2012 5:20 PM

    judsonjr says:Sep 10, 2012 4:57 PM

    Now for all the dopes saying the Niners “out physicalled” the Packers, you are morons who only look at the box score.
    ——-
    Let me guess…you guys beat yourselves?

  127. supermariojosh says: Sep 10, 2012 5:50 PM

    So now you can either accept the reality of what “official paid attendance” means or you can admit that Chicago, Houston, Tennessee, New York (Giants) and New Orleans have more dedicated fans (willing to actually show up to a game).
    ——————————–
    The Packers game was sold out dude – as every Packer game is. The single game tickets available to the community sell out in hours, and the season ticket waiting list is larger than any other team in the league. The Elias Sports Bureau doesn’t even officially track attendance because teams inflate their numbers artificially all the time. If you want to believe that the Packer game wasn’t sold out, go ahead – but all tickets were sold. If people didn’t show up, it was either wealthy skybox owners, or ticket brokers that didn’t manage to sell all their inflated price tickets.

  128. larryboodry says: Sep 10, 2012 6:09 PM

    As a lifelong Bears fan, let me chime in on a few things:

    1.) The Packers are not dead, certainly not so bad as to finish 9-7…I’ll give that honor to Detroit.

    2.) Thursday night promises to be a great game, both offenses will air it out, but defense will win it in the end. Bears 45-GB 35, but that could easily go the other way, too…Either way, I predict the Bears and Packers will compete for the NFC North crown, and challenge SF for that SB berth as well.

    3.) Most Packer fans I’ve known, or encountered on sites like this, are knowledgeable and down-to-earth, and not much different from Bears fans…And there be idiots among us on both sides.

    4.) No love lost in Packer-land for Jarrett Bush, and somehow I’ve never heard of him before now, at least not to remember…If he was any good, I’d most likely at least know his name.

    5.) Can’t wait for Thursday, may the best team win! (Or not beat themselves, in any case.)

  129. kyannalashae says: Sep 10, 2012 8:27 PM

    thejuddstir says:
    Sep 10, 2012 1:39 PM
    The Packers defense is…..BAD. The past two years they could hide their defensive defeciencies because of the huge leads they had due to offense but when Packers are in close games which seems to be more and more frequent, they are in trouble. I submit that opposing defenses have figured out how to slow down and do a much better job of containing the passing game. Discount double-check is finding it more difficult which does not bode well for the pack. As for clay matthews, he’s off the juice and not nearly as effective. woodson has become a liability, he couldn’t cover an offensive lineman without holding him.___________________

    First of all what makes you think Clay Matthews is/was juicing? what proof do you have? that rumor from 2009 was never confirmed,and all the tests that they did run on Matthews came back negative for your info!

  130. ozzy49fam says: Sep 10, 2012 8:50 PM

    As a 9er’s fan I was stoked with this win, the packers are a great team & to beat them in there home was huge. it’s good to see so many packer fans tell bush to stop this crap about beating themselves. Packer fans are as passionate about there team as anyone but gracious enough to accept that they lost, bush & Matthews should do the same. Hopefully us 9er fans will be as gracious when we lose this year

  131. vikingfan1971 says: Sep 10, 2012 9:42 PM

    for the person cutting down other fans like vikings we won our game and yes we almost made the superbowl the year we had brett and we lost yes so we are up for a win this year or down the road stop cutting us down as this was about the packers and the 49ers
    I am not an arrogant fan of the viking I know we will be better this year than last year yes we have one win under our belt and we will win the next game hoping fingers crossed
    well see who is on the top of the divison the season has just started and we can still be on top we have won the divison before dont say we have never won when we have its been awhile but we will prevail again sometime
    thanks for your time in reading this

  132. tdrundmc says: Sep 10, 2012 11:15 PM

    Ever hear of a guy called the “Claymaker”?

    Clay Matthews is a twinkie.

  133. bdfun400 says: Sep 10, 2012 11:23 PM

    the packers didn’t beat themselves.
    The niners didn’t beat themselves.
    Jarrett Bush beat the packers.

    Jarrett has a winning record against the pack(see Arizona Cardinals)

  134. ruffneck1 says: Sep 11, 2012 10:11 AM

    As a Packers fan, I believe Bush should just keep his mouth shut because the Packers lost to the better team that day….so please shut it Bush and worry about the Bears this week….

    Packers better turn-up the heat….

  135. koolfootball says: Sep 11, 2012 2:54 PM

    When it comes down to it the niners are just an all around better football team. You can’t rely on Rodgers arm to bail you out of every deficit. Their defense needs to pick their game up if they want to contend for a chance to play in the superbowl.

  136. tiredofyoureferringtoateamaswe says: Sep 11, 2012 7:37 PM

    A 49er fan on here made a great assessment. Don’t put too much emphasis on what Bush said when the majority of the Packers players gave the 49ers great reviews. 49ers played very well, very solid, deserved the “W.” Packers need to go back to work. Bush needs to shut up and learn to cover or sit the heck down. Also saw the usual, “refs let the Packers back in the game” garbage. Refs were HORRIBLE BOTH WAYS. Blatant fouls not called, iffy fouls called, non fouls called fouls. TERRIBLE job by the refs in all phases. They hurt and helped both teams and dictated a lot of the game in key areas. Block in the back on the punt return picked up was wrong. Raping of Packers receivers with no call on several plays was wrong as well.
    49ers were much better on Sunday, but, it is a long season. I expect the young GB defense to get better, but they better hurry up about it.

  137. tornsolace says: Sep 13, 2012 1:54 AM

    seems like alot of packers haters out there. people it is week 1 and san fran can still go 1 and 15 your quarterback is good at best and still unproven Alex Smith has been sub par and underachieving most of his career and even last year put up decent but not great numbers so i think the jury is still out on him. so what the packers lost LAST YEAR how many commenters teams went 15 and 1. this is a new year yeah i know are defense has problems but we will figure it out. and to touch on last year the giants didnt sack aaron rodgers till midway through the 3rd quarter if are recievers didnt drop 9 damn passes 2 of them touchdowns it would have been better for us but i digress. im not worried about this season id rather go 10 and 6 and clean up in the playoffs then what happened last year. but iaccept are loss to san fran but everybody talks about that punt return what about that bull call roughing the passer on 3rd down i think thats when the game shifted and the no call false start i think alot of you have selective memories. plus the 49ers dbacks were anally abusing our recievers with not one single call our way in thats area yes we got outplayed but those damn refs had a huge part in our loss but my overall point is we lost this battle but the fact of the matter is the packers are still better than most of your teams and all the hate confirms that we have been the best all last season untill the playoffs and the best overall the year before so for all you haters basing our entire season off of one game need to wait a few more weeks to make some of these wild claims some of you are making because they sound stupid after week 1 because by that logic the giants will go 6 and 10 this seasonbecause they lost to dallas. Jarret bush can say whatever he wants doesnt bother me but we need to get better on that d line. bottom line replacement refs need to go we need more penetration from that interior d line and wait till week7 or 8 to make wild claims people we have only lost 9 game including playoffs in the last 2 years we are going to the playoffs again so Stay mad and keeps hating us but when we beat your team remember what you said at week 1 GO PACKERS! i joined this site just so i could respond GO PACKERS!

  138. larryboodry says: Sep 13, 2012 2:43 PM

    Kelly’s Chronicles says: Sep 10, 2012 4:33 PM

    You know your in trouble when Jarrett Bush is your starting cornerback…..
    ———————————
    My heart would bleed for you more if we didn’t have J’Marcus Webb starting at LT.

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