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	<title>Comments on: Replacement ref on Seahawks timeout: &#8220;It was my error&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: thelastpieceofcheese</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/10/replacement-ref-on-seahawks-timeout-it-was-my-error/#comment-1985934</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 23:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Replacement refs - under orders from the league - did everything possible to help Lester Wilson pull out the game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Replacement refs &#8211; under orders from the league &#8211; did everything possible to help Lester Wilson pull out the game.</p>
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		<title>By: mogogo1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mogogo1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 21:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[jlinatl says:

Regardless of anyone’s individual belief, it seems pretty clear that the refs do not have the backing of the majority of the fans.
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What are you basing this off of?  There&#039;s been no fans booing the refs for the entire game or anything like that.  It&#039;s abundantly clear that the vast majority of fans don&#039;t care who refs the games as long as they&#039;re unbiased and reasonably competent.  

And why exactly would fans be drawn to the cause of the regular refs?  Sure, Ed Hochuli has some nice arms, but it&#039;s not like my Sunday gets measurably worse if I don&#039;t see them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jlinatl says:</p>
<p>Regardless of anyone’s individual belief, it seems pretty clear that the refs do not have the backing of the majority of the fans.<br />
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<p>What are you basing this off of?  There&#8217;s been no fans booing the refs for the entire game or anything like that.  It&#8217;s abundantly clear that the vast majority of fans don&#8217;t care who refs the games as long as they&#8217;re unbiased and reasonably competent.  </p>
<p>And why exactly would fans be drawn to the cause of the regular refs?  Sure, Ed Hochuli has some nice arms, but it&#8217;s not like my Sunday gets measurably worse if I don&#8217;t see them.</p>
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		<title>By: vickismydogg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vickismydogg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 21:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These refs arguably make some of the worst calls I&#039;ve seen, but what I noticed with them, is that a lot of times they throw penalties flags on things that are simply not penalties. I have, on the other hand, seen them make some really good calls that I feel a lot of the real refs wouldn&#039;t have made. My biggest pet peeve, especially with being an Eagles fan and having to watch every defender in the NFL use Mike Vick as their own personal punching bag, knowing damn well that they are likely getting away with it, are clear penalties that are not called. I know I am contradicting myself, but some of those calls made against the Eagles on Sunday were just flat out ridiculous. If you watched that game, you would likely agree. There was also one pretty obvious face mask on Vick that wasn&#039;t called. (It was certainly questionable, but I don&#039;t think anyone would have called it an outrageous claim.) There was also a flag thrown on Maclin because during a play, he threw his arms up in order to avoid a holding call. I watched that play over and over again, there was no hold. So in the refs eyes, because he threw his arms up, clearly he MUST be guilty, right? There other silly calls not even worth mentioning, but I feel like every time I looked up, there was a flag on the field. Pretty annoying. 

With all that being said, I think all the calls they are making, the bad calls that weren&#039;t needed, and the actual good calls, are a result of them truly trying to do a good job. I mean, these guys are no different than rookie quarterbacks starting. They have big shoes to fill, and they have a lot of responsibility, and they are prone to make mistakes. The NFL has a different rule system, so they are likely adjusting. Give them some time, and I think they will level off...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These refs arguably make some of the worst calls I&#8217;ve seen, but what I noticed with them, is that a lot of times they throw penalties flags on things that are simply not penalties. I have, on the other hand, seen them make some really good calls that I feel a lot of the real refs wouldn&#8217;t have made. My biggest pet peeve, especially with being an Eagles fan and having to watch every defender in the NFL use Mike Vick as their own personal punching bag, knowing damn well that they are likely getting away with it, are clear penalties that are not called. I know I am contradicting myself, but some of those calls made against the Eagles on Sunday were just flat out ridiculous. If you watched that game, you would likely agree. There was also one pretty obvious face mask on Vick that wasn&#8217;t called. (It was certainly questionable, but I don&#8217;t think anyone would have called it an outrageous claim.) There was also a flag thrown on Maclin because during a play, he threw his arms up in order to avoid a holding call. I watched that play over and over again, there was no hold. So in the refs eyes, because he threw his arms up, clearly he MUST be guilty, right? There other silly calls not even worth mentioning, but I feel like every time I looked up, there was a flag on the field. Pretty annoying. </p>
<p>With all that being said, I think all the calls they are making, the bad calls that weren&#8217;t needed, and the actual good calls, are a result of them truly trying to do a good job. I mean, these guys are no different than rookie quarterbacks starting. They have big shoes to fill, and they have a lot of responsibility, and they are prone to make mistakes. The NFL has a different rule system, so they are likely adjusting. Give them some time, and I think they will level off&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jlinatl</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 21:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regardless of anyone&#039;s individual belief, it seems pretty clear that the refs do not have the backing of the majority of the fans.

That always is the invitation to the minority on any issue to insinuate that the majority is a) too dumb to understand,  b) sheep, c) a sham based upon an influx of fake support responses from the supposed majority&#039;s clandestine PR department.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regardless of anyone&#8217;s individual belief, it seems pretty clear that the refs do not have the backing of the majority of the fans.</p>
<p>That always is the invitation to the minority on any issue to insinuate that the majority is a) too dumb to understand,  b) sheep, c) a sham based upon an influx of fake support responses from the supposed majority&#8217;s clandestine PR department.</p>
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		<title>By: 1rockyracoon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[1rockyracoon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 21:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Like the article stated, missing a call is one thing.  Not knowing a basic rule in the final moments is not acceptable.  I watched the Browns-Eagles game and I could not stand how many times the refs had to huddle together to discuss why a flag was thrown.  I thought they were going to bring out a conference table for them to sit around and discuss every penalty.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like the article stated, missing a call is one thing.  Not knowing a basic rule in the final moments is not acceptable.  I watched the Browns-Eagles game and I could not stand how many times the refs had to huddle together to discuss why a flag was thrown.  I thought they were going to bring out a conference table for them to sit around and discuss every penalty.</p>
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		<title>By: dbara43</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 20:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, basically it was a normally officiated NFL game.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, basically it was a normally officiated NFL game.</p>
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		<title>By: Magyver</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Magyver]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 20:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ marcello49: Re: &quot;Just watch a rerun of bountygate game if you want to see how “great” the old refs were.&quot;

There never was a &quot;bountygate&quot; game. There never was a Saints game identified with a substantial cart-off injury that was tied &amp; verified to a bounty.

For that matter in the last 2011 Saints game after the GW video the only &quot;cart-off&quot; was Saints Pierre Thomas who took a brutal helmet-to-helmet hit from a 49er for a game ending concussion.

It amazes me how many people take Goodell&#039;s word without verified proof as if he were &quot;The Chosen One&quot;, or &quot;The Second Coming&quot;.

The man is without scruples, the man is without integrity, the man is above accountability.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ marcello49: Re: &#8220;Just watch a rerun of bountygate game if you want to see how “great” the old refs were.&#8221;</p>
<p>There never was a &#8220;bountygate&#8221; game. There never was a Saints game identified with a substantial cart-off injury that was tied &amp; verified to a bounty.</p>
<p>For that matter in the last 2011 Saints game after the GW video the only &#8220;cart-off&#8221; was Saints Pierre Thomas who took a brutal helmet-to-helmet hit from a 49er for a game ending concussion.</p>
<p>It amazes me how many people take Goodell&#8217;s word without verified proof as if he were &#8220;The Chosen One&#8221;, or &#8220;The Second Coming&#8221;.</p>
<p>The man is without scruples, the man is without integrity, the man is above accountability.</p>
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		<title>By: gafraidh</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gafraidh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 20:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is kind of funny... it wasn&#039;t too many years ago when an official granted a 4th time out to a team. As I recall there was a bunch of confusion regarding how it ought to be handled. Some (fans, and those in the league as well) thought it should be a penalty on the team that called it, but the proper ruling is for the ref to ignore the request. I think it was Pereira that had to clarify for the masses.

My point here being that confusion over dealing with time-outs is not new, and not specific to replacement officials.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is kind of funny&#8230; it wasn&#8217;t too many years ago when an official granted a 4th time out to a team. As I recall there was a bunch of confusion regarding how it ought to be handled. Some (fans, and those in the league as well) thought it should be a penalty on the team that called it, but the proper ruling is for the ref to ignore the request. I think it was Pereira that had to clarify for the masses.</p>
<p>My point here being that confusion over dealing with time-outs is not new, and not specific to replacement officials.</p>
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		<title>By: seahawkfan4evr</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[seahawkfan4evr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 19:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a Seahawks fan I&#039;m glad that we lost had we not it would have been terrible. Ugh as much as I would have loved to have seen russel pull it out. First start against a stingy defense away so not to bad next week we can hope to see better]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Seahawks fan I&#8217;m glad that we lost had we not it would have been terrible. Ugh as much as I would have loved to have seen russel pull it out. First start against a stingy defense away so not to bad next week we can hope to see better</p>
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		<title>By: rubicon202</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rubicon202]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 19:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like that they don&#039;t call ticky-tack calls but they miss an awful lot of fouls...but kinda takes it back maybe 10 years when they got to play...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like that they don&#8217;t call ticky-tack calls but they miss an awful lot of fouls&#8230;but kinda takes it back maybe 10 years when they got to play&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: crazybeardedjack</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[crazybeardedjack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 19:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No mention that this error has been made TWICE before be the REGLAR officials? It happened in 2003 Baltimore OVERTIME win against Seattle and in 2009 in a game between the Ravens and Browns. But why would you guys mention such unimportant information that doesn&#039;t bolster your case?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No mention that this error has been made TWICE before be the REGLAR officials? It happened in 2003 Baltimore OVERTIME win against Seattle and in 2009 in a game between the Ravens and Browns. But why would you guys mention such unimportant information that doesn&#8217;t bolster your case?</p>
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		<title>By: marcello49</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[marcello49]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 19:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Would you rather have the old refs who call every chinsy gamechanging  interference penalty or these guys who let them play.....its refreshing.

Just watch a rerun of bountygate game if you want to see how &quot;great&quot; the old refs were. 

I hope they keep these guys all year!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would you rather have the old refs who call every chinsy gamechanging  interference penalty or these guys who let them play&#8230;..its refreshing.</p>
<p>Just watch a rerun of bountygate game if you want to see how &#8220;great&#8221; the old refs were. </p>
<p>I hope they keep these guys all year!</p>
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		<title>By: joestemme</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joestemme]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 19:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The person I blame the most for this blown call WAS a &quot;regular&quot; NFL employee - the so-called &quot;officiating supervisor&quot; aka &quot;8th Official&quot;. These replacement refs are new to the NFL - the supervisor should KNOW the timeout rule inside and out! And, he had FOUR MINUTES to look up the rule if he had a brain fart (or call the NFL office at the very least).

That all said, the officiating the 49ers-Packers game was extremely poor. It is time the NFL forks over the, to them, petty cash and get the real refs back to work. I would also like to see the NFL hire some of these replacement refs and put them through a training program. I would guess a good number of them have the chops to be NFL officials some day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The person I blame the most for this blown call WAS a &#8220;regular&#8221; NFL employee &#8211; the so-called &#8220;officiating supervisor&#8221; aka &#8220;8th Official&#8221;. These replacement refs are new to the NFL &#8211; the supervisor should KNOW the timeout rule inside and out! And, he had FOUR MINUTES to look up the rule if he had a brain fart (or call the NFL office at the very least).</p>
<p>That all said, the officiating the 49ers-Packers game was extremely poor. It is time the NFL forks over the, to them, petty cash and get the real refs back to work. I would also like to see the NFL hire some of these replacement refs and put them through a training program. I would guess a good number of them have the chops to be NFL officials some day.</p>
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		<title>By: mwatts1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mwatts1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 18:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was at this game. The refs were AWFUL unless you were a Hawks fan. Strange that the refs gave all the calls to the Hawks in  Card&#039;s stadium. Cards still won so water under the bridge.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was at this game. The refs were AWFUL unless you were a Hawks fan. Strange that the refs gave all the calls to the Hawks in  Card&#8217;s stadium. Cards still won so water under the bridge.</p>
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		<title>By: sactogary</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sactogary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 18:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If people are going to insist on referring to the replacements as &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;scabs&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;, then the guys they are &quot;covering&quot; for should be called &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;open sores&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If people are going to insist on referring to the replacements as <b><i>scabs</i></b>, then the guys they are &#8220;covering&#8221; for should be called <b><i>open sores</i></b>.</p>
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		<title>By: firstclasspack</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[firstclasspack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 18:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I though the replacement refs did a much better job than the &quot;real refs&quot;.  They pretty much let the guys play and didn&#039;t throw a flag for every little incidental contact like we were seeing last year.  One other thing that I noticed is that these replacement refs don&#039;t seem to have any relationship with the long time veterans and didn&#039;t show them any favoritism like the &quot;real refs&quot; do.  I enjoyed all the games and didn&#039;t think the refs got in the way at all.  Yeah they made that one bad call with the timeout but I give them a passing grade for week 1.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I though the replacement refs did a much better job than the &#8220;real refs&#8221;.  They pretty much let the guys play and didn&#8217;t throw a flag for every little incidental contact like we were seeing last year.  One other thing that I noticed is that these replacement refs don&#8217;t seem to have any relationship with the long time veterans and didn&#8217;t show them any favoritism like the &#8220;real refs&#8221; do.  I enjoyed all the games and didn&#8217;t think the refs got in the way at all.  Yeah they made that one bad call with the timeout but I give them a passing grade for week 1.</p>
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		<title>By: rgwhodey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rgwhodey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 18:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was watching most of the games this weekend (thanks direct and Sunday ticket) with my wife and she made the point to drink every time the announcers mentioned replacement refs.. let me tell ya, ya drink quite a bit at that rate, these refs are under such scrutiny it isn&#039;t right.. give them a chance quit bashing them and let&#039;s move on... doing a fine job I prefer replacements over the originals any day...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was watching most of the games this weekend (thanks direct and Sunday ticket) with my wife and she made the point to drink every time the announcers mentioned replacement refs.. let me tell ya, ya drink quite a bit at that rate, these refs are under such scrutiny it isn&#8217;t right.. give them a chance quit bashing them and let&#8217;s move on&#8230; doing a fine job I prefer replacements over the originals any day&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: kws767</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kws767]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 18:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I watched 3 games Sunday.. Titans/Pats..Niners/Packers...Broncos/Steelers... I think that the officials did a great job in those 3 games, especially when you consider what they have been thrown into...kudos to them...The games flowed so much smoother without so many flags being thrown..12 hours spent watching football, andI loved every minute of it..Thank God the NFL is back !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched 3 games Sunday.. Titans/Pats..Niners/Packers&#8230;Broncos/Steelers&#8230; I think that the officials did a great job in those 3 games, especially when you consider what they have been thrown into&#8230;kudos to them&#8230;The games flowed so much smoother without so many flags being thrown..12 hours spent watching football, andI loved every minute of it..Thank God the NFL is back !</p>
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		<title>By: kidzaround</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kidzaround]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 18:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If I had not been reminded every three minutes by the annoucers that they were replacements, I would not have noticed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I had not been reminded every three minutes by the annoucers that they were replacements, I would not have noticed.</p>
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		<title>By: wethog66</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wethog66]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 18:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After watching 4 pre-season games and 1 regular season games I have yet to see a call by a scab Ref that is any worse then some of the dumb *** calls I have seen throughout my time watching NFL games.

So far I don&#039;t see the big deal with the Scap Refs.  I say give them the gig full time and lets move on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After watching 4 pre-season games and 1 regular season games I have yet to see a call by a scab Ref that is any worse then some of the dumb *** calls I have seen throughout my time watching NFL games.</p>
<p>So far I don&#8217;t see the big deal with the Scap Refs.  I say give them the gig full time and lets move on.</p>
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		<title>By: stahi</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stahi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 18:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The man knows he was in error and admitted it, and for that he gets a couple bonus points in my book.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The man knows he was in error and admitted it, and for that he gets a couple bonus points in my book.</p>
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		<title>By: roadtrip3500</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[roadtrip3500]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 18:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[dasmol says: Sep 10, 2012 2:10 PM

It’s only a matter of time before a replacement crew gets a player seriously injured.
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Pretty sure the last time an official got a player seriously injured was when Jeff Triplette hit Orlando Brown in the eye with the weighted end of a penalty flag.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dasmol says: Sep 10, 2012 2:10 PM</p>
<p>It’s only a matter of time before a replacement crew gets a player seriously injured.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
Pretty sure the last time an official got a player seriously injured was when Jeff Triplette hit Orlando Brown in the eye with the weighted end of a penalty flag.</p>
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		<title>By: sactogary</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sactogary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 18:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[MDS: your &quot;three mistakes&quot; analysis is bogus because you don&#039;t seem to have grasped what the real error was: the refs did not charge Seattle for the injury timeout.

First, the crew did not ignore the call for the fourth time out because, by their (erroneous) count, it was only the third.

Second, what else was there to &quot;straighten out&quot; with the eighth official? They figured out what happened, but nothing further could be done about it.

Third, he explained exactly what had happened without admitting it was a mistake during the game. He only admitted it later. What did you want him to do? Go into a public apology during the game? It was handled in a way that is comparable to the handling of Hochuli&#039;s infamous game-deciding botched call against San Diego a few years ago - deal with logistics during the game and apologize later.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MDS: your &#8220;three mistakes&#8221; analysis is bogus because you don&#8217;t seem to have grasped what the real error was: the refs did not charge Seattle for the injury timeout.</p>
<p>First, the crew did not ignore the call for the fourth time out because, by their (erroneous) count, it was only the third.</p>
<p>Second, what else was there to &#8220;straighten out&#8221; with the eighth official? They figured out what happened, but nothing further could be done about it.</p>
<p>Third, he explained exactly what had happened without admitting it was a mistake during the game. He only admitted it later. What did you want him to do? Go into a public apology during the game? It was handled in a way that is comparable to the handling of Hochuli&#8217;s infamous game-deciding botched call against San Diego a few years ago &#8211; deal with logistics during the game and apologize later.</p>
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		<title>By: dasmol</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dasmol]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 18:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s only a matter of time before a replacement crew gets a player seriously injured.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s only a matter of time before a replacement crew gets a player seriously injured.</p>
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		<title>By: prospero63</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/10/replacement-ref-on-seahawks-timeout-it-was-my-error/#comment-1985337</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[prospero63]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 18:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sounds like the officials are finally being held accountable. When they make mistakes they admit them, learn from them and move on. Why again are the old officials not working? Oh, that&#039;s right, they didn&#039;t like that the NFL wanted to make accountability part of the contract. All the more reason to move forward with the existing officials.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like the officials are finally being held accountable. When they make mistakes they admit them, learn from them and move on. Why again are the old officials not working? Oh, that&#8217;s right, they didn&#8217;t like that the NFL wanted to make accountability part of the contract. All the more reason to move forward with the existing officials.</p>
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		<title>By: harrisonhits2</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[harrisonhits2]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 17:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I remember several times regular officials giving extra downs, and maybe once  or twice when they almost gave an extra time out but caught the error in time.

I&#039;ll take this new bunch over the old ones.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember several times regular officials giving extra downs, and maybe once  or twice when they almost gave an extra time out but caught the error in time.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll take this new bunch over the old ones.</p>
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		<title>By: roadtrip3500</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/10/replacement-ref-on-seahawks-timeout-it-was-my-error/#comment-1985297</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[roadtrip3500]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 17:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the benefits the replacement officials have is, they are learning the rules by the book.  In the Giants/Cowboys game, Cruz was called for an illegal block in the back... everyone complained, but the replay clearly showed Cruz had &lt;i&gt;both&lt;/i&gt; hands on the opponent&#039;s rear numbers.  That&#039;s the rule.  We don&#039;t have to accept the &quot;regular&quot; officials claim of &quot;I know the rules&quot; when they&#039;re essentially using their own interpretations, or guessing a player&#039;s intent.

If week 1 was the worst these new folks will do, then I don&#039;t think we&#039;ll even notice them by week 6.  And any member of the media who called for punishment/dismissal of Bill Leavy and his crew for the Giants/Packers playoff game can&#039;t come out now in favor of the regular officials&#039; return.  The NFL and these replacement officials are giving the accountability we all want and didn&#039;t get previously.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the benefits the replacement officials have is, they are learning the rules by the book.  In the Giants/Cowboys game, Cruz was called for an illegal block in the back&#8230; everyone complained, but the replay clearly showed Cruz had <i>both</i> hands on the opponent&#8217;s rear numbers.  That&#8217;s the rule.  We don&#8217;t have to accept the &#8220;regular&#8221; officials claim of &#8220;I know the rules&#8221; when they&#8217;re essentially using their own interpretations, or guessing a player&#8217;s intent.</p>
<p>If week 1 was the worst these new folks will do, then I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;ll even notice them by week 6.  And any member of the media who called for punishment/dismissal of Bill Leavy and his crew for the Giants/Packers playoff game can&#8217;t come out now in favor of the regular officials&#8217; return.  The NFL and these replacement officials are giving the accountability we all want and didn&#8217;t get previously.</p>
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		<title>By: sactogary</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sactogary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 17:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The NFL has three choices:

1) cave in to the union&#039;s demands;
2) hire the best available replacements; and
3) cancel the games.

I think the league has chosen wisely.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NFL has three choices:</p>
<p>1) cave in to the union&#8217;s demands;<br />
2) hire the best available replacements; and<br />
3) cancel the games.</p>
<p>I think the league has chosen wisely.</p>
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		<title>By: bigbluefan11</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bigbluefan11]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 17:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, yes, Bring back the regular officials. They will NEVER make a mistake, miss a call, give an extra down or an extra time out, or get the coin toss wrong. And, if it rains, they will walk on water. I especially like it when rainbows shoot out of their butts. /sarcasm]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, yes, Bring back the regular officials. They will NEVER make a mistake, miss a call, give an extra down or an extra time out, or get the coin toss wrong. And, if it rains, they will walk on water. I especially like it when rainbows shoot out of their butts. /sarcasm</p>
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		<title>By: brianpat</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[brianpat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 17:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like these Ref&#039;s, they admit their mistakes and don&#039;t make as many as the one&#039;s on strike. I say keep these Ref&#039;s for the year, maybe after a few games, they&#039;ll do better then the old ones !!

Sounds like Micheal David Smith is shilling for the Unions ! Seriously, after last year, who really thinks that the so called pros are much better !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like these Ref&#8217;s, they admit their mistakes and don&#8217;t make as many as the one&#8217;s on strike. I say keep these Ref&#8217;s for the year, maybe after a few games, they&#8217;ll do better then the old ones !!</p>
<p>Sounds like Micheal David Smith is shilling for the Unions ! Seriously, after last year, who really thinks that the so called pros are much better !</p>
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