Comments on: Incognito explains video of him holding Antonio Smith’s leg

By: thelastpieceofcheese

thelastpieceofcheese — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 21:39:58 +0000

Toughness is very important in the NFL.

Dolphins need more Incognitos on their team.

Coaches love it when the other team’s players are more concerned about the “dirty” player than the actual play.

Let’s break some of these cry babies ankles!

By: texanssteve

texanssteve — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 14:14:36 +0000

This is the case of the fight at school. You have one student that doesn’t get in trouble, keeps his head down and does his work, then you have the guy who has had 4 fights this year and a fight record dating back to middle school. Fair or not at the end if the day you will believe the guy who normally doesn’t get in trouble. THE END AND GO TEXANS

By: m2karateman

m2karateman — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 13:51:14 +0000

Sorry, but there’s no evidence to show that Incognito was twisting Smith’s ankle. I’m not saying he wasn’t doing it, because it can’t be seen on video. However, what CAN be seen is Smith kicking Incognito repeatedly, and the question is when is Goodell going to suspend Smith for two or more games for that incident? If Suh got two games for barely contacting Evan Dietrich-Smith, than Antonio Smith deserves at least that much for what he was doing.

Double standard Goodell?

By: cwhat32

cwhat32 — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 13:40:19 +0000

Suh kicked a packer in the arm once.

Williams kicked a Dolphin in the head/neck area multiple times.

And Suh was the one suspended 2 games.

By: keepingitrealdumb

keepingitrealdumb — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 13:37:57 +0000

do you guys remember the 2nd Holyfield-Tyson fight? the one where Tyson bit off a portion of Holyfield’s ear? well .. in additional to doing that there was one round where Tyson wrapped around Holyfield’s arm and was trying to break it .. recall Holyfield’s reaction when that happened .. he was in panic mode jumping and hitting, doing everything he could to get out of Tyson’s grasp.

now watch the video, look at Smith’s reaction .. it looks identical to Holyfield’s. a sort of panic’d desperation to get out of the grasp of someone doing harm to one of his limbs.

to me it is clear. we’ve all watched football for some time now right? is it normal to react the way Smith did just on a hold? have we ever seen reactions like that? clearly something painful was happening to the limb that Incognito was wrapped around.

By: texanssteve

texanssteve — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 13:21:52 +0000

Smith is a whiner. Grow up. It’s football.

Dude should have a pink tutu on so people can treat him little the whiny little girl he is…

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Actually isn’t this why we’re talking about this because he got tired of complaining at took matters into his own hands by kicking the snot out of that punk. YOU CANT HOLD US DOWN AND WE WILL NOT BE PUNKED….. GO TEXANS

By: mikefont

mikefont — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 13:21:21 +0000

I call BS on Incognito. If you watch the video closely, it doesn’t even look like he saw the fumble! He was facing the opposite direction when the ball was fumbled, then twisted down on Antonio’s leg! Looks VERY dirty to me, and I woulda kicked him too if he was trying to twist my ankle off.

By: 2ndaryinsanity

2ndaryinsanity — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 13:04:22 +0000

Repeat after me…” Cut blocking is LEGAL.” So quit trying to say the Texans (or any other team that uses it) are dirty.
Trying to compare this incident to what Suh did is ridiculous. Suh got frustrated, threw a temper tantrum, then stomped on a downed opponent. Smith and Incognito were both on the ground.Smith was trying to protect his legs from a dirty player.

By: vikesfansteve

vikesfansteve — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 12:30:35 +0000

Suh, Haynesworth & Robison believe him.

By: sj39

sj39 — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 11:13:12 +0000

Smith should be fined for kicking a defensless guard.

By: kingpel

kingpel — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 09:37:38 +0000

I wanted to believe you, Richie. But after watching the video, all I can say is DAAAAMN! This isnt a case of subtley grabbing the man’s ankle. You are writhing on the ground like a pitbull trying to twist his leg from his body as he kicks and flails in a panic.

Dirty play. Guilty as charged.

By: kicksave1980

kicksave1980 — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 08:11:04 +0000

Incognito is an idiot. As a Rams fan, the day he was waived was awesome. It’s tough for me to decide which headline I liked more: “Incognito waived”, “Marc Bulger released”, or “Alex Barron benched”.

By: spfripp

spfripp — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 06:48:11 +0000

A lot of you guys obviously have not played football. When there is a fumble, players yell fumble to alert their teammates that there is a ball on the ground. So if he did see the ball or not is really irrelevant. The other thing is fumble is very much like a tip pass. Its pretty much a free for all. What Incognito could be considered dirty because he nailed Smith from behind but it is within the rules.

By: hdahs143

hdahs143 — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 04:56:42 +0000

Some of you whiny Texan fans have vivid imaginations, and apparently xray vision.

Coach Kubiak is on record as having watched the video, and seeing nothing wrong with it.

I guess he is lying too.

By: gbrussell

gbrussell — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 04:32:36 +0000

All you have to do is watch the video from the link and you can see Antonio Smith’s entire right leg is free the entire time. So as others have pointed out, there’s no way his story about grabbing both legs can be true.

By: drgreenstreak

drgreenstreak — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 04:04:12 +0000

Incognito = Liar. This isn’t the first lie he’s attempted.
Just wish Smith could’ve gotten cleats through that facemask.

By: bsizemore68

bsizemore68 — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 03:58:00 +0000

Smith is a big baby, make that a cry baby. Bill

By: daysend564

daysend564 — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 03:21:17 +0000

Know what was dirty? Smith kicking Incognito repeatedly to get free.

By: contract

contract — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 02:58:29 +0000

Incognito needs to be thrown out of the NFL.

By: vorthras

vorthras — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 02:51:23 +0000

7. Why was Antonio Smith the only player to miss practice today due to…..an injured ankle?

By: vincentbojackson

vincentbojackson — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 02:47:44 +0000

I thought Incognito came off like a total a-hole on hard knocks. It’s not a stretch then for me to assume that he’d be a total a-hole on the field as well.

By: lostsok

lostsok — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 02:44:02 +0000

Smith is a whiner. Grow up. It’s football.

Dude should have a pink tutu on so people can treat him little the whiny little girl he is…

By: ajaxsin

ajaxsin — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 02:40:53 +0000

We are talkin about a guard on the next 0-16 team?

By: vorthras

vorthras — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 02:40:29 +0000

After watching the video, here are my questions:

1. Why is #71 Jonathan Martin leg whipping and tripping #38 Manning?

2. Why is Richie Incognito tackling Smith from behind when he isn’t in position to see the fumble?

3. Why is Richie wrenching on Smith’s leg upwards of THREE seconds after the play is whistled dead?

4. Why doesn’t anyone see Smith attempting to free himself from Richie? Given the usage of Smith’s hands in backing out of the grapple along with using his free leg to kick loose, it’s obvious he is trying to escape.

5. Why are the officials so overwhelmed with their duties and lack of experience that they missed all of these details during this play?

6. What is the league and NFLPA going to do about this in the so called spirit of “player safety”?

By: eventhorizon04

eventhorizon04 — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 02:32:58 +0000

Also, if you think stuff like this doesn’t happen in the trenches all the time, you don’t know football.

I played football in high school, and the coach lectured O-linemen to punch guys in the gut or “lower abdomen” [read: groin] if D-linemen tried to tip passes.
Also, in a zone-blocking scheme, O-linemen are taught to dive at a defender’s lower legs – which is completely legal so long as the defender isn’t being engaged by a different O-lineman.

Etc.

There’s a reason why when O-linemen are described as having a “mean streak,” it’s meant as a compliment.

By: somekat

somekat — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 02:12:32 +0000

I don’t see how he can say “I was laying on his legs”, then say “he was kicking me in my neck”. I’m no anatomy major, but how could he possibly be able to kick you in the neck if you were laying on his legs? If he got to the pont he could kick you in the neck, you wouldn’t be laying on him anymore, and he could freely get up

By: ddogdaddy

ddogdaddy — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 02:10:12 +0000

I wish that fool played for the Colts. I like the way he plays. Not invisable like most O linemen.

By: rmc1995

rmc1995 — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 02:09:43 +0000

The difference is you have to slow down and freeze frame Suh to make it look more like a stomp and less like a dog dismissing its waste.

By: nflfan1

nflfan1 — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 02:01:45 +0000

Incognito was dirty at Nebraska when he was in college. Incognito was so dirty while playing for St. Louis they cut him because of all his personal fouls. Incognito is STILL dirty.

By: jskill3

jskill3 — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 01:56:06 +0000

It was not like Suh. Suh was in no danger of having his career ended, either real or perceived. Suh was upright, stomping a defenseless man on the ground. Smith was lying down, being held down, with no leverage. Smith thought he was defending himself, whether he was or not. What an idiotic comparison.

When there is a fumble, everyone can suddenly tackle anyone?? And hang on after the recovery? It may have been legal and heads up for Ingognito, but I can get Smith feeling he needed to protect himself whether or not ankle twisting had actually begun. Under Ingognito, out of sight, is not a safe place to leave your lower leg.

Oh, and I never heard Smith call out this particlar play…. we may not even be talking about the plays Smith was thinking of….