Jared Allen thinks replacement refs cost him a sack

AP

After leading the league in sacks last year, Vikings defensive end Jared Allen didn’t have a sack in Week One this year. But he thinks he would have if the regular officials were on the field.

Allen did bring down Jaguars quarterback Blaine Gabbert behind the line of scrimmage on one play, but the replacement officials working the game ruled that he had crossed the line of scrimmage prior to the snap. Allen believes he perfectly timed his jump, just starting to get out of his stance at the exact moment the ball was snapped, and the officials were wrong to flag him.

“I moved, but I didn’t think I broke the neutral zone before the ball was snapped,” Allen said in an interview on ESPN.

Allen said that he thinks he beat Jaguars left tackle Eugene Monroe so swiftly that the officials were caught off guard by it, and assumed that he must have had an unfair jump. Allen said he thinks the regular officials know about his fast first step and would have given him the sack.

“When a guy doesn’t move, I think it was his lack of movement — the offensive lineman’s — that made it look worse than it was,” Allen said. “I think I’ve got a rapport with the other refs. They might have given me some leniency and let me get away with a tight call.”

For his part, Monroe thinks the refs were wrong too — but wrong in the opposite direction. According to Monroe, not only was Allen offside, but the officials should have blown the play dead because Allen had an unabated path to the quarterback.

He jumped offside and it was bulls–t,” Monroe told the Florida Times-Union. “They should have stopped the play. That just shouldn’t happen. He knows better than to hit the quarterback in that situation. . . . I don’t remember hearing the whistle, but I know I saw a flag. To take a shot at the quarterback like that, especially a veteran player who understands the game, that didn’t start his day off with me on a good note.”

Monroe played well in protecting Gabbert from Allen, who didn’t have a single tackle all game. But to my eyes Allen is right: On the play in question, he timed his jump perfectly, and should have had a sack.

64 responses to “Jared Allen thinks replacement refs cost him a sack

  1. There might be a slight chance that the QB was thrown off his timing because of the penalty, so there was no assurance of a clean sack.

  2. I watched the play 4-5 times. Should’ve been a sack but I doubt NFL refs would have seen it his way either. That’s just how fast it was. No whistle, no stopping… Sorry Monroe. A flag and no whistle means free play for the offense if I’m not mistaken. Why would you stop? Probably threw the flag and then Barney Fife’d it trying to get the whistle out of the holster.

  3. Monroe manhandled him all game….didn’t even register a pressure. Should’ve gotten flagged for that free hit too.

  4. I dont know what game Shackdelrio was watching because Gabbert was pressured all day by Robison and Allen. The duck he threw at the end on 4th down was because of pressure.

  5. He committed a personal foul.

    Monroe became a man last Sunday. He tied up Mr. Calf Rope all day long.

    Blaming the Ref? Watch the tape!

    I really like Allen. Think he’s a HOFer. But he’s sounding like a crybaby, here. With the game he had, he ought to shut up.

  6. “I think I’ve got a rapport with the other refs. They might have given me some leniency and let me get away with a tight call.”

    That’s EXACTLY the kind of garbage I’m glad is out of the game with the new refs. The whole “superstars get better calls” thing is absurd because the game should be called the same no matter who the players are. This just reinforces my opinion that the new refs might actually be better for the game in the long run.

  7. When a player says, “I think I’ve got a rapport with the other refs. They might have given me some leniency and let me get away with a tight call,” then there’s a problem with the “other refs.”

  8. Whether I agree with the calls or not, this is the best way for players to influence the league in trying resolve the issues with the referees. It’s going to take players with name power, like Allen and Rodgers, or a Brees or Brady to speak out. When these guys talk, people listen and that might be one of their biggest weapons in helping end the ref’s holdout.

  9. Ladies and gentleman, this is why I dislike Jared Allen. He’s such an arrogant you know what. He always has to talk. Just be happy your team won and move on. You won’t out-sack Demarcus Ware in your career anyways.

  10. He isnt whining about it. If you had heard the full interview he was asked a question, and he answered it. And it shoulda been a sack by my eyes but its not like it ended up mattering.

  11. Officiating in the NFL has always been bad, not NBA bad, but bad. I don’t understand how the NFL goes from fining and chastising players and coaches that spoke any ill of the old refs to openly criticizing their replacements and allowing everyone and their mother to do the same. Refs miss calls, scabs or not. Can we please stop talking about them?

  12. shackdelrio says:
    Sep 12, 2012 7:39 PM
    Allen must be mad that Monroe dominated him on Sunday. Allen not only didn’t have a sack…he didn’t even have a tackle.

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    But he got a “W”, which is one more than any Jags player, coach or Shackdelrio.

    Butthurt much?

  13. Looked like he timed it perfectly. He wasn’t right at the LOS in his stance, so when he first moved he wasn’t in the neutral zone yet.

    Monroe was an idiot on that play he let Allen get as big a shot on Gabbert as possible. You know there are replacement refs who probably won’t catch everything, and your not going to move at all to try and stop Allen just because you hope the whistle is blown before he hits the QB? He got completely beaten then he still didn’t move when he knew the QB was going to get hit.

    And Monroe didn’t dominate anything, after that play he always had Marcedes Lewis next to him so that the same thing couldn’t happen. They either double teamed Allen or the QB rolled out to the opposite side of the field. That’s why Robinson had such a better day, they did everything to keep Allen off the QB. Good job by the Jags as a team, but Jag homers shouldn’t pretend like they got a stud LT, he gave up 9 sacks last year in 15 games. He’ll give up plenty of sacks this year too.

  14. It was a very close play and you can’t fault the refs. As far as the Jags LT dominating, if you call holding every other play and getting max-protection help 75% of the time (thereby freeing up Robison to go nuts from his side), I guess that was pure domination by a team that would barely have had 200 yards passing if Gabbert’s wobbly 50 yard duck/hail mary hadn’t been caught at game’s end.

  15. @cobibones13,

    Eugene Monroe is quietly becoming one of the more solid LT’s in the NFL. I say “Quietly”, like Fred Taylor was “quietly” one of the best RB’s in the game, and Tony Boscelli was “quietly” one of the greatest LT’s to play the game. We down here in Jacksonville like to do things “quietly”.

    But for real, Monroe has gotten better every year, and as long as he isn’t regressing, that is a good thing in my eyes.

  16. Really @purpleguy Monroe shut Allen out with no help so clearly u must not have watched the whole game, and also robinson had such a good game because the Jags third string right tackle Guy Whimper was in for most of the game. Also Blaine Gabbert played very well against the vikings and the throw at the end of the fourth quarter which should have won the game was a very good throw as well, he threw it only were the WR Cecil Shorts could catch it. Also Blaine Gabbert had 260 yards, so he did not even need that throw to reach 200 yards.

  17. Whoa whoa whoa. Allen wasn’t complaining, ala Aaron Rodgers. He gave a local interview where he was joking about it. He said, since the refs took one away from me I’ll have to get an extra one next week. If you watch and listen to Jared every week you know it’s all tongue in cheek, so settle down people.

  18. @unbreakable02215,

    Jared Allen contributed to that win about as much as Juwon Howard contributed to the 2012 Heat championship run.

  19. @omnipotentcrab. That last play had pressure from Robison who was going against the Human Turnstile Guy Whimper. Allen wasn’t the issue there.

  20. Allen said. “I think I’ve got a rapport with the other refs. They might have given me some leniency and let me get away with a tight call.”

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    As other people have mentioned, this phrase says it all. The stars have relationships with the old refs. With the new refs they are just another number.

  21. Come off the ball when it’s is snapped Monroe and then there is no conversation. Allen did. The only thing moving on the line of scrimmage were Meester’s wrist, the ball, then Allen. Jags were stunned it happened. Refs were too, hence, the call. It happens. Just does… Not sticking up for Allen, but he is a wiley vet that got a bad call and said something. Pull back the microscope a touch. Calls are being missed every game and it will likely hit everyone’s team multiple times soon if it hasn’t already. Not that this would have been called any different w/o replacements other than possibly a whistle to stop play before the shot to Gabbert.

  22. Jags were missing four of their top six offensive linemen for the majority of that game. Britton, Rackley, Bradfield, and Nwaneri. Plus the Jag receivers had six drops according to the reporters covering the game. Give that situation to Ponder and see how he does.

  23. I heard the interview. He was laughing and joking. Relax! We don’t need the comish to start fining & suspending for a bribery scandal. This is a bears fan saying that Allen is the kind of player the league needs. He’s been taken out of context, silly faces!

  24. @cobibones13,

    Eugene Monroe is quietly becoming one of the more solid LT’s in the NFL. I say “Quietly”, like Fred Taylor was “quietly” one of the best RB’s in the game, and Tony Boscelli was “quietly” one of the greatest LT’s to play the game. We down here in Jacksonville like to do things “quietly”.

    Maybe you should learn how to correctly spell Boselli’s name before you try to pretend you know what your talking about.

    Talking about Monroe in the same paragraph as Taylor and Boselli is a complete injustice to their 2 stellar careers. Boselli might have not given up 9 sacks his whole Jags career, and you want to hype up this Monroe bum? He gave up a sack last year to Frostee Rucker, lol.

    Monroe gave up multiple sacks to Barwin of the Texans last year, and the Texans have other good pass rushers so Monroe won’t be given tons of help for this upcoming game. He’ll be brought back to reality soon enough.

  25. Jared Allen, you are such a bad liar. You know you were offsides & it wasn’t even close. Just accept the fact that Monroe owned you during that game.

  26. you guys need to actually watch the interview…Allen said it all with a smile…you have to know Jared…he didn’t really care or whine…he was asked….so he answered.

  27. I’ve seen the play about a dozen times and Jared Allen is 100% correct. All the people knocking Allen, keep in mind he was 1/2 sack short of Strahan’s sack record last year.

  28. Looks like we’ve got a pissed off Jared Allen, an accurate and poised Ponder, a monster looking AP and the Vikings coming off a good win.. good luck colts

  29. Yeah, Monroe “dominated” Allen…with a constant double team or chip leaving Robison alone on the other side:

    “Robison, who became a starter last season after Ray Edwards left for Atlanta, hit Jaguars quarterback Blaine Gabbert three times, pressured him three more, batted down a third-down pass, was in on five tackles and drew a holding call on right tackle Guy Whimper”
    -1500 ESPN

  30. Good game. Wish my Jags would have won. A FG with only 20 seconds on the clock? Credit to the Vikings. Love the NFL. Go Jags!

  31. People, say what you want about Allen, sack or no sack? But who WON!!! A win is a win. Allen will still have a high number of sacks this year!

  32. doublebro says: Sep 12, 2012 11:57 PM

    Who cares what this cheap shot artist thinks.

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    Who cares what a packer fan thinks?

    Vikes 1-0 > Packers 0-1

    Suck it packer fan!!!

  33. I love that people sitting at their computer think getting a sack is so easy especially when talking about the guy .5 sack away from tying the all time season record, and also the 20th of all time (and still playing). A DE can spend all game waiting for that perfect moment, setting up a tackle to think one thing then pounce. When the strategy works or the timing is right they should get 1 for the books. These are the elite of the elite battling that we get to watch. If sacking a QB was so easy, you’d be doing it not trolling PFT.

  34. i have just watched the replay 5 times (@5:32 mark of the game) #69 was not offsides … obtw that also was a turnover given back to the teal … we are talking about an athlete coming of a 22 sack season (what would one more sack done for him last year…NFL RECORD) … #69 was just saying is all, he was asked a question and he answered it, coming off a 22 sack season and he is real likely to break that record in 2012, i certainly dont think #69 is gonna dwell on that incredibly excellent play that completely froze monroe and monroe let his qb get hammered … the teal played a very good game in a tough place to play on the road … the purple found a way to win that is all that matters … and to the dude comparing Monroe with Tony Boselli Jr … shame on you Monroe will not live to see the day he could even carry Tony Boselli Jr.’s jock “TRUST ME ON THAT”

  35. Any player who dwells on statistics like that just doesn’t have his priorities in order. The right thing to say is that it doesn’t make a difference and the W is the important thing. Why bother?

  36. Number one: Jared has had time to look at the play in the film room so he and the coaches KNOW what really happened. Monroe is just trying to cover his ass for not reacting.

    Number two: After that play JAC was double teaming and rolling blockers to Jared’s side of the line. So to say Monroe didn’t allow Allen a tackle is a bit of an overstatement, because he had lots of help.

  37. Bottom line is Jared is right. Whether you think he’s “crying” as some of you put it or if you think he was “dominated” he was absolutely correct.

    He was not offside at all. Oh yeah and for you thant believes he was dominated, why don’t you watch the game again? Pretty sure he was applying pressure all game long. Just because he didn’t get a sack or a tackle does not mean he was dominated. Statistics do not tell the entire story of what really happened.

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