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Panthers holding grudge for Saints running up the score

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Panthers wide receiver Steve Smith wasn’t biting earlier this week when asked about the Saints bounty allegations.

But that’s not the only thing the Panthers have to be tight about.

Several Panthers expressed dismay at the Saints’ decision to run up the score in last year’s finale, leaving starters in to break records while the Panthers defense was limping to the finish line.

The Saints won 45-17, leaving quarterback Drew Brees and other starters in well into the fourth quarter at the behest of suspended coach Sean Payton.

“It’s a philosophy. It’s an attitude. And that’s what his is,” Panthers coach Ron Rivera said, via Joe Person of the Charlotte Observer. “So he coaches that way and they play that way. My attitude and my philosophy is win the football game, and then be smart about the next week. That’s just the way I look at it, a difference in philosophy.”

Of the Panthers defensive starters that day, seven are still on the roster, but only four started last week’s opener at Tampa Bay (cornerback Chris Gamble, strong safety Charles Godfrey, linebacker James Anderson and defensive end Antwan Applewhite).

That kind of turnover makes it difficult to raise a healthy disrespect argument, because the Panthers defense is completely different with several regulars on the field (including defensive end Charles Johnson, defensive tackle Ron Edwards, linebackers Jon Beason and Thomas Davis) and newcomers Luke Kuechly and Dwan Edwards.

The Saints had already nailed down the third seed in the playoffs and weren’t moving up, but Brees said on a conference call it was more important to go into the playoffs on a roll. And did they ever, gaining 617 yards to break the 2000 Rams’ old mark for yards in a season with 7,474

“When it got into the third and fourth quarter, [Darren] Sproles was close to the record of most all-purpose yards in history. Jimmy Graham was close to most yards for a tight end in history,” Brees said. “So were we trying to get those guys some touches, some yards, in order to break those records? Yeah, absolutely. Who wouldn’t?”

The Panthers, apparently.

“When you’re going for it on fourth-and-1 when you’re up by 50,000 points, it’s what you’re supposed to do. But it’s not what you’re supposed to do, at the same time,” defensive end Greg Hardy said. “So I’m not happy about that.”

Then again, Hardy and the Panthers have an opportunity to do something about it this weekend, when injuries are no longer an excuse.

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39 Responses to “Panthers holding grudge for Saints running up the score”
  1. djbleedthestar says: Sep 13, 2012 2:34 PM

    I hope the Panthers play a hell of a game.

  2. beastson says: Sep 13, 2012 2:34 PM

    First of all, I’m a Panthers fan. Second, quit whining about the score. Mad? Stop the offense. And let’s hope you play better than last week’s weak attempt against weaker Bucs or I’ll have another case of heartburn.

  3. mrhurriicane says: Sep 13, 2012 2:39 PM

    There is no such thing in professional sports as running up the score. This isn’t high school, it’s a competitive business where people are paid to help score touchdowns and to help prevent touchdowns.
    It doesn’t matter if you’re third string, you can’t complain about something so childish and expect remorse.

    The disparity in skill among professional players is in no way comparable to high school or even college football games. (Savannah State anyone?)

  4. sf944 says: Sep 13, 2012 2:40 PM

    Brees sat out nearly an entire quarter

  5. thankheavenfornumberseven says: Sep 13, 2012 2:45 PM

    If you don’t want your opponent to run up the score, then stop them. This isn’t high school.

  6. wtfpft says: Sep 13, 2012 2:49 PM

    Sorry Panthers but it won’t matter, you’ll still get thumped this weekend and many more this year. You won 6 games last year and had a fluke year for a rookie QB, you’re not world beaters yet.

  7. f4phantom9277 says: Sep 13, 2012 2:50 PM

    Excuse me, but if anybody ever got breaks versus the Saints, it is Carolina. In Sean Payton’s tenure with the Saints, he didn’t play the starters in the season finale at Carolina in 06 or 10 to have starters healthy for the playoffs. Both Carolina wins……..it works both ways. It is not the Saint’s fault that Carolina is never in position to rest players or break records.

  8. sbc85 says: Sep 13, 2012 2:54 PM

    The Saints pulled their starters in that game 3 minutes into the 4th quarter.

    “It’s what you’re supposed to do. But it’s not what you’re supposed to do, at the same time”

    What does that even mean? What kind of quote is that?

  9. asseenonokra says: Sep 13, 2012 2:55 PM

    read the comments from the referenced article. even the Panthers fans are telling the team to stop whining.

  10. harrisonhits2 says: Sep 13, 2012 3:01 PM

    There are no more classless players in the league than Steve Smith of the Panthers. Perennial punk and sucker puncher of his own teammates, anything that makes Smith go WWAAAAAAA is all right by me.

    If it had been him close to a record he would have been merciless in doing anything it took to break it because he knows very well that adds up to more dollars in your next contract.

  11. blacknole08 says: Sep 13, 2012 3:03 PM

    Trust me, us Panthers fans haven’t forgotten the beating we took in the season finale or the cheap shot that Roman Harper took on Steve Smith in Carolina.

    Panthers are winning this weekend.

    How’s 0-2 sound Who Dat Nation?

  12. whodatsaybaby says: Sep 13, 2012 3:06 PM

    Is Steve Smith crying again? Geeeess, this dude cries more then Ronnie from the Jersey Shore.

  13. ilovefoolsball says: Sep 13, 2012 3:07 PM

    Someone please! Dial 911! We need to get a waaaaaahmbulance out here stat!
    Someone’s cat is crying about losing!
    It’s heartbreaking and I love cats!

  14. metalhead65 says: Sep 13, 2012 3:11 PM

    I love the it’s part of the game talk from the teams that are doing it. wait untill it’s your turn and see how you feel. somehow I do not think they or their fans will feel that way when the shoe is on the other foot. if you are playing your second team and scoring no problem but first teamers in there? total lack of class.

  15. randallflagg52 says: Sep 13, 2012 3:14 PM

    thankheavenfornumberseven says:Sep 13, 2012 2:45 PM

    If you don’t want your opponent to run up the score, then stop them. This isn’t high school.

    ==================================

    Said the steeler fan who whinned last year when the Ravens converted for 2 instead of kicking the extra point in a 35-7 blowout.

  16. asseenonokra says: Sep 13, 2012 3:19 PM

    …or the cheap shot that Roman Harper took on Steve Smith in Carolina.

    ——————–

    where was that motivation in the second game when the Saints broke all those records?

  17. delhommed says: Sep 13, 2012 3:19 PM

    Since when does Smitty ever cry? Classless? He gives a poopload of money to the Aurora, CO shooting victims, is a leader in the community, never been arrested and a great family man by all accounts. Morons need to do a little research before you hit send. I can’t stand the saints or their bandwagon fans. Hope the league puts a bounty on them this year! Go Panthers!

  18. footballchic777 says: Sep 13, 2012 3:23 PM

    What a load! Had this been the saviour Cam Newton, and he needed some yardage to set a rookie record, you can bet he would have been doing whatever was necessary to get it. You don’t want them running up the score…….D UP!

  19. qdog112 says: Sep 13, 2012 3:33 PM

    As a Panthers fan, I say, there’s no crying in football. Payback is a mutha. Heck, don’t want them to score – stop’em!!!

    Let’s show’em our brand of runnin’ up the score.

  20. sb44champs says: Sep 13, 2012 3:34 PM

    Yeah, the Panthers are going to desperately need the extra incentive as the Saints will be on a mission after last weeks snoozer (the offense still scored 32 points on an off week)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  21. bearsstillsuck says: Sep 13, 2012 3:36 PM

    Some quarterbacks excel under pressure ( joe Montana) and some excel in garbage time ( drew brees).

  22. bucfandango says: Sep 13, 2012 3:46 PM

    I support the Panthers on this and think Ron Rivera is an excellent coach. I enjoyed our game with them last week and the Saints could learn a thing or two about Class from Coach Rivera. Cam Newton won’t be stopped in this game and he’ll put up another 40 points on the Saints and give them something new to whine about.

  23. hookem6903 says: Sep 13, 2012 3:50 PM

    I REALLY can’t stand when teams cry about their opponents “running up the score.” This is the NFL. These are supposed to be the best players on Earth. If you don’t want them to score, stop them. If you can’t stop them, too bad. This isn’t like Oklahoma State putting 84 points on Savannah State where there is obviously a huge disparity in talent between the two teams. These are supposed to be the BEST at what they do. The offense’s job is to score points. Period. Shut up and play.

  24. Mr. Wright 212 says: Sep 13, 2012 3:58 PM

    Panthers will win Sunday.

  25. butkusditka says: Sep 13, 2012 4:09 PM

    “if you don’t want to see me dance, keep me out of the end zone.”
    -Micheal Irvin
    University of Miami

  26. nickster31 says: Sep 13, 2012 4:09 PM

    Man, I hope the Panthers don’t put any bounties on anyone this weekend. Drew Brees and Jimmy Graham on my fantasy teams.

  27. CKL says: Sep 13, 2012 4:10 PM

    The only player who was really whining about it in the article was Hardy. Even Rivera’s comments weren’t whining. He may disapprove of it, but he never said so outright.

    I guess Hardy would feel it’s more respectful to be treated like an adult would treat a kid when playing a game with him. Pat him on the head, give him a cookie, and “let him win” by not trying anymore. Ugh. Pathetic.

    I hope he knows that even the “classy” Joe Gibbs “ran up scores” and went for records. Put your big boy pants on Hardy, and play football.

  28. dzor22 says: Sep 13, 2012 4:12 PM

    I’ve seen the Saints fans say they scored 32 points. Correction…special teams scored 7. That equals your offense scoring 25. I hope that makes you feel better after getting punked by a rookie QB. Dang I love this season already!

  29. riderspantherssk says: Sep 13, 2012 4:16 PM

    As a Panthers fan, everyone on that team should be worried about correcting what went wrong last week, not worrying about what the Saints did last year. The O-line got ran over last week and the Saints’ offense had nothing to do with that.

  30. eballa1 says: Sep 13, 2012 4:20 PM

    “Then again, Hardy and the Panthers have an opportunity to do something about it this weekend, when injuries are no longer an excuse.”

    They could have done something about it last year when they were getting destroyed on the field. New year, new team now.

  31. dallascowboysdishingthereal says: Sep 13, 2012 4:48 PM

    Payton’s philosophy is to score points, set records, and win super bowls.

    Rivera’s philosophy is to wear dark glasses even at night, no head set, look like you don’t know what is going on, and lose games.

  32. 504in860 says: Sep 13, 2012 4:57 PM

    The crying from the Panthers becomes even funnier, because their “good” offense was held SCORELESS in the 2nd half of that game. Hahahaha!

  33. sbc85 says: Sep 13, 2012 6:01 PM

    dzor22 says:Sep 13, 2012 4:12 PM
    I’ve seen the Saints fans say they scored 32 points. Correction…special teams scored 7. That equals your offense scoring 25. I hope that makes you feel better after getting punked by a rookie QB. Dang I love this season already!

    Is 25 points supposed to be bad? It’s only 2 points less than what the offense did vs. Green Bay in their opener last year, the same year they went on to set multiple offensive records.

  34. mrcogburn says: Sep 13, 2012 7:37 PM

    I’ve always thought Lee Harvey was a deviant coach.

  35. larryjames836 says: Sep 13, 2012 8:20 PM

    New Orleans Saints are still and elite team to all 31 teams don’t let the media and the sportsmens tell you the Saints is down because of Sean Payton you guys done play the Saints for many years knowing that the Saints is a comeback team and a high scoring team when they running on all 8 cylinders. We know our team we has the best offensive team in the NFL so don’t fool yourselves thinking we going down.

  36. turfrage says: Sep 13, 2012 8:56 PM

    It’s pro football not Pop Warner.

  37. thankheavenfornumberseven says: Sep 13, 2012 11:10 PM

    randallflagg52 says:Sep 13, 2012 3:14 PM

    thankheavenfornumberseven says:Sep 13, 2012 2:45 PM

    If you don’t want your opponent to run up the score, then stop them. This isn’t high school.

    ==================================

    Said the steeler fan who whinned last year when the Ravens converted for 2 instead of kicking the extra point in a 35-7 blowout.
    __________

    First, I don’t care about the Steelers. Second, I don’t even know what “whinned” means.

  38. madenatewell says: Sep 14, 2012 2:09 AM

    “Payton’s philosophy is to score points, set records, and win super bowls.

    Rivera’s philosophy is to wear dark glasses even at night, no head set, look like you don’t know what is going on, and lose games.”

    Says a cowboys fan that has seen Dallas win one playoff game since 1995. Hahahaa

    Tiki is flabbergasted

  39. nomercy2012 says: Sep 14, 2012 4:35 PM

    “When you’re going for it on fourth-and-1 when you’re up by 50,000 points, it’s what you’re supposed to do. But it’s not what you’re supposed to do, at the same time,” defensive end Greg Hardy said. “So I’m not happy about that.”

    ——

    So how did you feel the week before when the Panthers stomped all over the Bucs 48-16? When did “SuperCam” take a seat in that game? Because I heard he played the whole thing.

    But I’m sure you were on the bench begging your coach to show restraint, be classy, and sit all the starters down and spare the poor hapless Bucs some embarrassment.

    Please – it’s the freakin’ NFL. You don’t want Brees passing out TD’s like dollars in a strip club, find a way to stop him. Until then, just be glad he does get pulled in the 4th or he might end up dropping 60 on you.

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