Comments on: Andrew Luck: RGIII’s big day “hasn’t crossed my mind”

By: bigdaddytm

bigdaddytm — Sun, 23 Sep 2012 05:02:27 +0000

@hollywoodhulkhoginsays : Guess you didn’t understand what you were watching on those first screen passes, huh? Those were what are called ‘packaged plays’. It’s like three plays in one. In most plays the line, backs and receivers all must work in concert for the plays to work but in this type of play the three different positions work independently.

The QB has the choice for a bubble, a dive, a keeper, or a normal pass (or even a playaction). This choice is based on what the defense does pre snap, so the QB must READ what the defense is giving to the offense to determine pass or run. Then when the ball is snapped if he has chosen run he must determine if the ball should be handed off or kept for a play action (if the D does something that opens up a pass) or keeper.

The Saints defense never adjusted during that first drive to a screen so Griff just kept throwing it. I think he kept the ball on the second play from scrimmage then again on the fifth (off of memory here) but it wasn’t Shanny trying to get Griff into a groove. In fact it was something that I’ve never seen before because of the option to run a stretch play out of the same formation.

Wondering why the folks that know football seem to be going ga-ga over Griff? This is why. The kid is making these types of decisions, constantly readjusting the plays from pre-snap to conclusion. It’s a crazy amount of responsibility and it’s multiplied by two additional things.

First, it’s a ROOKIE doing this!

Second, he really takes care of the ball! All of this stuff swirling every play and he still takes care of the rock?! That’s something special…

By: jwreck

jwreck — Sun, 16 Sep 2012 16:59:40 +0000

youhavenoclue says: Sep 15, 2012 4:35 PM
What he says:
…“RG3″ … will be out of football within 3 years. Andrew Luck is the real deal. He will lead the Colts to a Super Bowl in the next 6 years.. book it.. (NOT A COLT FAN)
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What he means: (DEFINITELY A COWBOYS FAN)
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hollywoodhulkhoginsays says: Sep 15, 2012 4:47 PM
What he says:
even us skins fans… [think Griffin is garbage]
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What he means: “even us Cowboys fans with screen names very obviously designed to mock one particular Redskins fan… [hope Griffin is garbage]”

And really? You could hit a moving receiver perfectly on his back shoulder from sixty feet away as a 6’4, 300 pound Will Smith came charging straight at you?

By: tonyromoisterrible

tonyromoisterrible — Sun, 16 Sep 2012 15:08:08 +0000

Let Luck throw less than 4 INT’s before we crown him competent.

By: tonyromoisterrible

tonyromoisterrible — Sun, 16 Sep 2012 15:07:11 +0000

peytonsneck will have a 9 to his head later today when mush mouth throws another 4 picks.

By: 2ndaryinsanity

2ndaryinsanity — Sun, 16 Sep 2012 13:12:00 +0000

@voiceofreason….ever heard of a dictionary?
Most people aren’t RG3 “haters.” What we hate is people making idiotic comments about how he’s the greatest QB of all time and that Andrew Luck is a bust.

By: mallyredskins

mallyredskins — Sun, 16 Sep 2012 12:39:33 +0000

So noone was telling Indy and the Colts fans to chill out when the media was hypin ANDREW LUCKS preseason stats!!! Yet, he goes out and throws three ints and now yall want the media to get off RG3 back when he actually performed good in a game that matter!! #whyYallMad

By: cornernum23

cornernum23 — Sun, 16 Sep 2012 12:37:55 +0000

Luck is right though. I’ve been wondering about these so-called “QB match ups” myself. The same for the pitching match up in baseball. The two are never even on the field at the same time. This attempt to make the QB the only focus of a game that feature 10 other players on his side of the ball, 11 player that play the other half of the game, and a roster that has 52 other guys on it drives me nuts.

By: lbmclean

lbmclean — Sun, 16 Sep 2012 07:17:46 +0000

“Andrew why aren’t you learning the offense and studying game film?”

“Oh I’m obsessing over other rookie performances”

does somebody get paid to ask these inane questions? does some other a-hole get paid to make a story of the answer?

By: countryskinsfan

countryskinsfan — Sun, 16 Sep 2012 06:43:14 +0000

who cares!!? This crap about RG3 vs Luck is over!! This is the NFL and the only thing I care about is Wins and Losses, not who has better stats!! Their not in college anymore….

By: dlr4skins

dlr4skins — Sun, 16 Sep 2012 05:57:37 +0000

I’ve been visiting this site since its creation and this may be the most stupid post yet:

coltsluckdynasty says:Sep 15, 2012 4:22 PM

The only people that are so worried about rg3 and luck comparisons are redskins fans, and the media. See, we in Indy have got to experience 2 Superbowl’s since 2006, we know that this is a rebuilding process, and can be patient after 1 season, let alone 1 week. The only people that think rg3 will have a better career, live in DC. They are so thirsty for relevance, they jump to these conclusions that rg3 is some phenomenon. When 90 of your yards come on a 10 yard pass catch and run, that is certainly a reason to jump for joy. You’re only lucky that the ball wasn’t thrown directly to garçon, or it would have been a drop….. Bask in your one week glory rgme, your game is already a fluke, and running a spread offense will soon be the laughing stock of the nfl… Luck will take his bumps, but, I would rather have a pure pocket passer than a tebow wannabe….
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You should watch film before making comparisons (there is college film too). Comparing Griffin to a Tebow wannabe shows how much knowledge you bring to your comments. Go ahead and assume Luck is a clone of Manning (that also remains to be seen) but please don’t compare Griffin to Tebow. It is clearly evident that you are not football smart, are paranoid in defending your prodigy, have a man crush on Tebow (to compare Tim to the best debut in league history), or are scared your pundits may be right. Either way it does remain to be seen how their careers go, but I’d bet your room in you parent’s basement that both are far better than a “Tebow wannabe” and that you are far from an expert since you’ve “experienced those bowls you clearly had a hand in”.

Enjoy the first pick yet again as we ‘Skins fan are clearly happy in our teams direction and don’t seem to worry as much about your QB as you do ours!?

By: sixjak

sixjak — Sun, 16 Sep 2012 05:35:05 +0000

Vince Young started out guns a blazin at the start of his career too. Now 6 years later, he’s a head case.

By: thunderskins007

thunderskins007 — Sun, 16 Sep 2012 05:23:04 +0000

peytons neck, do the world a favor and wash your mouth out with buckshot.

By: thunderskins007

thunderskins007 — Sun, 16 Sep 2012 05:19:30 +0000

hey johnschatzan, so the redskins have played an easier schedule than the colts? really? so week one in chicago is tougher than week one at new orleans? i don’t think so and most of pft universe would agree the saints in the superdome is one of the toughest places to play. nobody fears going to chicago or playing the bears. your just a h8ter along with the rest of these trolls. like the guy that said rg3 will be out of the league in 3 years. probally the most retarded thing ive ever read in my life aside from the rgleaf comments by peytonsneck. the difference between us is when a comment comes on pft about your team or player on your team, we don’t crap all over your team or the player with stupid comments. here are the facts. redskins have a young, talented, deep, hungry team with a leader who is proving worthy of what we gave up for him and is a stellar individual and natural leader who despite all the comparisons to vick he is a thrower first. shows you people don’t know anything adout rg3 or what he did at baylor. as long as he stays healthy the skins are going nowhere but up and look like you and the rest of the h8ters will just have to deal with it. HAIL TO THE REDSKINS BABY!

By: peytonsneck18

peytonsneck18 — Sun, 16 Sep 2012 04:13:02 +0000

Let rg3 play a good D before we crown him anything! !!!

By: peytonsneck18

peytonsneck18 — Sun, 16 Sep 2012 04:04:30 +0000

Skins will still be bottom dwellers!!!

By: peytonsneck18

peytonsneck18 — Sun, 16 Sep 2012 03:57:48 +0000

Willie “rg3″Beamin

By: peytonsneck18

peytonsneck18 — Sun, 16 Sep 2012 03:54:05 +0000

Skins fans are delusional

By: croghan1919

croghan1919 — Sun, 16 Sep 2012 03:49:40 +0000

Luck vs RG3 ?
QB vs QB ?
It’s all MEDIA hyperbole.
Luck said as much in this report.

By: raideralex99

raideralex99 — Sun, 16 Sep 2012 03:42:38 +0000

How all posts that say anything negative about RG3 get deleted.

Tomorrow when RG3 loses to the lowly Rams and Luck beats the Vikings nothing will change … RG3 is the GREATEST QB ever!!!!

By: raideralex99

raideralex99 — Sun, 16 Sep 2012 03:40:17 +0000

We get it … if Luck leads the Colts to the playoffs and RG3 goes 3-13 … RG3 is the better player.
Delete … in 5 …. 4… 3… 2… 1

By: redstar504

redstar504 — Sun, 16 Sep 2012 03:07:34 +0000

Put this in perspective RG3 did what he did against the Saints. The saints defense couldn’t stop a lady in a wheel-chair even if they had a bounty on her. I say this as a saints fan. We haven’t had a good defense since the 90′s.
Luck played the Bears a little bit more formidable of a unit.
One game isn’t enough to judge anyone.

By: briang123

briang123 — Sun, 16 Sep 2012 03:02:20 +0000

Let’s not kid anyone. The media will make sure that RGIII gets better press than Luck no matter what, because he is black. And it will continue that way until they discover he is a Republican.

By: briang123

briang123 — Sun, 16 Sep 2012 02:57:46 +0000

Call me when RGIII plays a competent defense and isn’t running a college game plan designed to protect him. I am so glad I DVR’ed his game to check him out (I am Eagles fan always concerned about that the enemy is up to) because my opinion doesn’t depend on what the media said about his play. In sum, nice game kid, but this is the NFL, which means “Not For Long.”. We’ll see how it goes. And by the way, no one would take RGIII over Luck today, just like no one would have taken RGIII over Luck in the draft. Shanahan would have been happier than a clam if the Colts took rGIII.

By: adx321

adx321 — Sun, 16 Sep 2012 02:40:44 +0000

wethog66

The last time D.C. was relevant in pro football helmets were made of leather

Indy is FAR more relevant in recent football discussion

By: norwegianwud

norwegianwud — Sun, 16 Sep 2012 02:32:50 +0000

Why would he be thinking about another player’s performance that 1) isn’t on his team, 2) isn’t a defensive player that would prevent him from doing his job, 3) isn’t even in the same division/conference? His answers were what I would want to hear out of a rookie QB. Focus on what and why you screwed up and take responsibility for it even if it even when it’s not your fault. WTF? I don’t get it. Great acquisition that played one game. I’m not even a Colt’s fan but ease up on comparing performance until you see a body of work with a developed team around the kid(s). Neither one has proven to rule the league or be a “bust”.

By: voiceofcommonsensesays

voiceofcommonsensesays — Sun, 16 Sep 2012 02:32:43 +0000

Why all the hate? Why can’t both be QBs be good, or even great? That being said lets not freak out and crown either one yet Peyton had an almost Identical first game as Andrew he turned out just fine! And please nobody EVER compair either one of these guys to Leaf. These guys are both much smarter than Leaf.

By: tonyromoisterrible

tonyromoisterrible — Sun, 16 Sep 2012 02:26:03 +0000

How did he know if he had a big day then if it didn’t cross his mind??

By: ddogdaddy

ddogdaddy — Sun, 16 Sep 2012 02:14:23 +0000

Just because you say something over and over doesn’t make it anymore true or less idiotic.

By: randomguy9999

randomguy9999 — Sun, 16 Sep 2012 01:50:49 +0000

Luck’s first regular season game doesn’t mean squat about his career and neither does RG3s

they are different player types on very different teams this year so who knows….

Luck has to avoid a transition to the big league problem …

RG3 has gotta keep that ego under control, esp when things start to not go his way…

both of them will almost certainly beat those problems…. but if I was forced to choose between Luck beating the transition problem and RG3 beating the ego problem….my money would be on Luck all day long every day….

By: tonyromoisterrible

tonyromoisterrible — Sun, 16 Sep 2012 01:27:51 +0000

95% of NFL teams would want RG3 as their QB. 75-80% of NFL teams would want Luck. RG3 is much more than most expected and that is why this is such a big story. The saints D looked terrible because of RG3 not the opposite. Griffin also kept the D on the field for nearly 40 minutes which they are not used to. Wait and see, tread lightly, but this much we can all own up to…….. peytonsneck looks like the WORLD’S BIGGEST FOOL!!!! Garcon didn’t drop an 88 yard TD, and RG3 set rookie records. Enough said.