Comments on: NFLPA still concerned about replacement officials

By: thegame2love

thegame2love — Mon, 17 Sep 2012 17:45:47 +0000

Janoris Jenkins hit was pass interference says one of you and an helmet to helmet says another. Are you kidding me, first of all he didn’t hit him until after Davis caught the ball so there is no PI. Secondly, it wasn’t helmet to helmet nor did he hit him in the helmet. Youtube it and see, this was one of the few calls the refs didn’t blow.

By: packhawk04

packhawk04 — Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:38:49 +0000

All of these people bashing the NFL and loving up unions is om with me. I think unions are a good thing. But when people start saying uniom busting is the “only plausible explanation” as to why there isnt a deal done, think again. You cant generalize big business and union busting, it IS ok to look at it with an open mind. Even though i like unions, im with the NFL. The NFL offered a 5-7% pay raise, which is fair, maybe more than fair considering these people make a hundred thousand dollars for very part time work. More important, the refs refuse to accept a deal with performance evaluations, and will not accept a deal unless they cannot be demoted or fired for performance issues. So, if the NFL just “caves” like so many want them to do, the refs can be as good or as bad as they want to be, and never face consequences for it. If you owned a business and during an interview, someone said “if hired, i dont want to be subject to discipline issues because of performance. Only tardies and absenses.” Would you hire a person that basically wants a job where as long as they show up on time, they can do whatever they want and you cant fire them? I know i wouldnt hire anyone like that. Maybe you would, but not me.

By: melikefootball

melikefootball — Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:15:04 +0000

These officials call what they see, why is it Flacco and the Ravens ALWAYS cry foul when they lose. All teams are getting the same officiating it all evens out. Yes, as fans when a call goes against our team we always say no way but even the standard officials caused this.

By: sternagle

sternagle — Mon, 17 Sep 2012 09:43:36 +0000

Fact is Goodell cannot be trusted with anything. All refs make mistakes but there are so many mistakes now, it is hurting the game. It all goes back to Goodell.

By: jimtron11

jimtron11 — Mon, 17 Sep 2012 06:32:29 +0000

In all the football I’ve watched (which has been non-stop, from 10:00 am to 8:30 pm), rarely did more than ten minutes go by without an officiating gaffe (manyof which were also noticed by the commentators). The Rams game was particularly atrocious. On back to back second-quarter runs by Steven Jackson, the refs ruled a clear down by contact a fumble (it was challenged an overturned), and then a touchdown a non-touchdown (this one was not challenged and the Rams settled for 3 instad of what should have been 7). Then, with the Redskins down by two points late in the fourth quarter, a defensless Fred Davis was just killed by Rams DB Jonoris Jenkins, forcing a drop on a RG3 pass attempt. This should have been 15-year pass interference penalty. But the refs somehow missed it, and Washinton punted two plays later. I also witnessed Santonio Holmes draw a phantom 19-yard PI on Ike Taylor in the fourth quarter on the Jets-Steelers game. The botched call didn’t lead to any points, and the Steelers won the game easily, but I’m still interested in knowing what exactly prompted the official to throw his flag since Taylor’s coverage was picture perfect. Aside from the particularly egrigous calls (which have run rampant all throughout the league), the replacement refs seem to be taking an inordinant amount of time between whistles, thus needlessly prolonging games that already last for over three hours.

For a second straight year, Roger Goodell has compromised the integrity of the game by failing to resolve a labor dispute in a timely manner. Does the NFL lose? No, their ratings will almost certainly be unaffected. Do the players lose? No, they’ll draw their checks regardless of the quality of the officiating. It’s the fans who lose. The product we’re getting is not all that it should be and Goodell, the sanctimonious bastard, is to blame.

By: mjkelly77

mjkelly77 — Mon, 17 Sep 2012 04:39:40 +0000

“To us,” the source said, “this is still about a basic and dangerous union-busting agenda. They are hurting the game and hurting the NFL brand, in our view.”

More and more players and fans seem to be sharing that view.
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Miscreant players who would be in prison if they weren’t playing in the NFL are hurting the NFL brand more than anything. The new referees aren’t hurting the NFL. I’d just as soon have the greedy part-timers stay home permanently with their day jobs.

By: chargrz

chargrz — Mon, 17 Sep 2012 03:51:18 +0000

Keep the replacement refs! They are doing no better or worse than the regular refs. Who really cares anyway? How soon we forget all the terrible calls the regular refs make week to week.

By: bcfalcon

bcfalcon — Mon, 17 Sep 2012 03:43:07 +0000

They really screwed the Bucs, and this is coming from a falcons fan!

By: Mr. Wright 212

Mr. Wright 212 — Mon, 17 Sep 2012 02:58:45 +0000

ghjjf says: Sep 16, 2012 8:15 PM

I hope the “real” referees, if they ever return, get this much coverage and scrutiny for all their mistakes.
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They always have. They just weren’t as plentiful as these HACKS.

By: sdsockers

sdsockers — Mon, 17 Sep 2012 02:58:09 +0000

I’m pretty sure Goodell is clicking ‘thumbs-down’ on all of our posts.

By: briang123

briang123 — Mon, 17 Sep 2012 02:43:09 +0000

Jwreck obviously didn’t really the Jenkins hit on Fred Davis because it was all shoulder. In a play like that, Jenkins only other option is to let Davis catch the ball and run by him. If that shoulder hit is outlawed, the NFL might as well close up ahoy or go to flag football rules.

By: baltimoresohard

baltimoresohard — Mon, 17 Sep 2012 02:10:54 +0000

The 1 o’clock game ended at 445, they manage a game about as well as Wayne Fontz.

By: richndc

richndc — Mon, 17 Sep 2012 02:07:59 +0000

The games are taking longer, the after whistle nonsense is getting out of hand. Blown calls all over the place. These guys are hurting the game period, not their fault, but let’s get the real refs back and soon! I like that they are letting them play a bit more on pass interference, but these guys dont even know the stupid rules!!! Its infuriating. They are influencing outcomes. Sick of it. If you did not watch the Ravens-Eagles or Redskins-Rams, then shut up!!

By: flsnupe

flsnupe — Mon, 17 Sep 2012 02:03:13 +0000

This is not politics people. Its ok to want the refs back for the good of the game. You will not have to turn in your sheet or repub card for doing so.

By: mizzouram

mizzouram — Mon, 17 Sep 2012 01:54:13 +0000

The Rams/Redskins almost turned into a riot more than a few times today.

By: BadScabRefs

BadScabRefs — Mon, 17 Sep 2012 01:39:32 +0000

@ianwetpantscom:

You are very correct. Paul Tagliabue had the cajones to stand up to the owners on issues where he felt they were being selfish or short-sighted. Goodell care more about his image in the public eye and his standing with the owners than he does about the game he is supposedly running.

By: BadScabRefs

BadScabRefs — Mon, 17 Sep 2012 01:37:32 +0000

@onecoolrdrfan:

I couldn’t agree more. This is little more than a union-busting maneuver that is damaging the integrity of the game. And why is the NFL taking a hard-line stance against the unionized refs? Because they want to bust the union – there is no other way to plausibly interpret what is going on.

By: TheWizard

TheWizard — Mon, 17 Sep 2012 01:37:10 +0000

Give the new guys a full season. They’ll be fine.

By: tfbuckfutter

tfbuckfutter — Mon, 17 Sep 2012 01:36:04 +0000

The refs ruined a dramatic Pats/Cards finish with a phantom holding call.

Not being bitter (because Gostkowski should have made that kick)…..but just as a casual fan that call caused the game to go from a nailbiter, with the Cards getting the ball back, down 5, with more than a minute on the clock to being a clock draining last minute FG attempt game.

By: jssgriffi

jssgriffi — Mon, 17 Sep 2012 01:30:40 +0000

You people that bad mouth unions really have no clue! None at all! How, as an everyday hard working American( sounds like an oxymoron I know) can side with a billion dollar business baffles the hell outta me. Just like working on a construction site on a prevailing wage job listening to how happy the non union guys are that they are making that money. The only reason you scabs are making that money is because of unions, don’t you get it?? Everyone better start opening there eyes, unions set the pay scale!! So the more you drones keep voting in money hungry people who want the unions gone, the more everyday hard working americans will suffer! People need to start opening there eyes and see what is truly happening!! You can’t spell scab without abc!

By: FinFan68

FinFan68 — Mon, 17 Sep 2012 01:10:20 +0000

Outside of the rare penalty flag to the eye, officials do not endanger the safety of players…other players do. If they notice ““a lot more pushing and shoving …” the NFLPA’s beef is with its own membership and not the officials. The union’s complaint is purely about the perception of union busting and has nothing to do with the integrity of the game or safety concerns.

By: drew44

drew44 — Mon, 17 Sep 2012 01:06:31 +0000

The NFL is risking the validity of their own product with poor officiating. Just see boxing .

By: jc327

jc327 — Mon, 17 Sep 2012 01:05:37 +0000

THEY TOOK OUR JOBS! Durky-durr!

By: ianwetpantscom

ianwetpantscom — Mon, 17 Sep 2012 00:58:10 +0000

Commissioner Roger Goodell is a puppet of the owners, when the owners have a response to ‘integrity of the game” he will release a memo, that’s all for now.

By: kleahy82486

kleahy82486 — Mon, 17 Sep 2012 00:54:39 +0000

while i believe they need to get the regulars back itd kind of a hypocritical statement for the nflpa when its there members that are doing the post play pushing and shoving

By: bc01red

bc01red — Mon, 17 Sep 2012 00:52:35 +0000

I plead that both sides come into some sort of agreement before someone gets hurt. Players, coaches and fans are putting way too much on these officials. No matter what they call its disputing the flow of the game. Bad call NFL, get the real refs back ASAP!

By: jwreck

jwreck — Mon, 17 Sep 2012 00:41:58 +0000

While the entire Redskins Rams game was completely out of control, and all those scab refs should be dismissed immediately, the uncalled helmet to helmet from Janoris Jenkins on Fred Davis was totally unacceptable. If you want to turn the NFL into the XFL, that’s your decision, I’m not in charge here, just don’t expect me to watch.

To be fair, it was similarly unacceptable for the Redskins training staff not to sit him after the hit, he almost too concussed to walk, let alone play.

By: onecoolrdrfan

onecoolrdrfan — Mon, 17 Sep 2012 00:32:33 +0000

SCABS They are SCABS plain and simple. Look in Webster. This type of labor movement is driving wages even lower. It’s happening to all pay scales high and low. Your job could be next.

By: eagleswin

eagleswin — Mon, 17 Sep 2012 00:31:07 +0000

More and more players and fans seem to be sharing that view. But the wagons keep on circling.

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Which fans are you talking to because none of the fans in my area share that view?

Also, do any of the group which “share your view” have a practical solution to the perceived problem besides unconditional surrender by the NFL?

Players like Jared Allen dislike the new refs because in his own words regarding the old refs :
“I think I’ve got a rapport with the other refs. They might have given me some leniency and let me get away with a tight call.”

They miss getting the star treatment, special consideration.

By: pghguyy

pghguyy — Mon, 17 Sep 2012 00:31:04 +0000

Terrible in Pittsburgh today.