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Redskins’ Adam Carriker, Brian Orakpo both injured in St. Louis

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Redskins defensive end Adam Carriker suffered an injury to his right knee on the second play of Sunday’s game in St. Louis, and it appears that he could be done for the season.

Although the Redskins won’t know until an MRI today how severe the injury is, the Redskins expect him to need surgery, and head coach Mike Shanahan sounded after the game like he’s expecting not to have Carriker for a long time.

It doesn’t look good,” Shanahan said, via the Washington Post.

Carriker has been a starter since arriving in Washington and has played in every game in the last three years.

The Redskins also lost outside linebacker Brian Orakpo on Sunday to a pectoral injury. There’s no word on the severity of that injury, but he already had pectoral surgery once this year, and his comments afterward suggested that he could need surgery again.

“It just ripped on me, man,” Orakpo said. “Same injury as before. It’s just frustrating, man.”

The Redskins left St. Louis with plenty to be frustrated about.

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31 Responses to “Redskins’ Adam Carriker, Brian Orakpo both injured in St. Louis”
  1. skins23 says: Sep 17, 2012 8:46 AM

    The NFL should be ashamed and embarassed of the officiating in that game yesterday. The refs lost control of the game in the first quarter and it was prison yard football. Not only that, they had no idea what they were doing on nearly every whistle and call. A complete joke for the league.

  2. voiceofreasonsays says: Sep 17, 2012 8:47 AM

    The defensive unit let us down by letting a weak Rams offense do things. In particular Hasslett…but the unit typically comes back strong after disappointing showings. I pity the Bengals…they will be our homecoming and team we take out whatever anger is there on. Our offense is clicking, so no worries on that end.

  3. spellingcops says: Sep 17, 2012 8:50 AM

    Was that ball throwing penalty the stupidest thing you’ve ever seen in football considering the scenario? I think it was for me. If I were Shanny, I would’ve made dude find his own way home after that.

  4. mjbulls45 says: Sep 17, 2012 8:51 AM

    shanahan will make sure the redskins DONT make the playoffs,

    RG3 is good,

    the team is good,

    coach is awful.

    without the 2 salary cap violations the years in denver he won the superbowls,

    what has he really done?

  5. voiceofreasonsays says: Sep 17, 2012 9:02 AM

    Well, its official – my ‘Skins are done for the year. We had fun atop the NFC East for 1 week but looks like the wheels have fallen off the bandwagon.

  6. vtsquirm says: Sep 17, 2012 9:09 AM

    shanahan will make sure the redskins DONT make the playoffs
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    Who do you think put the team together? You can’t blame the stupid penalties on the coach. I think the players should be held accountable.

    Now the defense played like total garbage and the special teams were bad again. Banks should be cut. Smith needs to be fired. Haslet will probably be gone as well. I’d promote Raheem Morris to DC.

    But hey! We’re competitive this year. Every game should be interesting.

  7. ImproperRedskin says: Sep 17, 2012 9:11 AM

    This means we’re really gonna need Jarvis Jenkins to step up. He’s completely capable.

  8. jwreck says: Sep 17, 2012 9:16 AM

    Headline correction:
    Redskins’ Adam Carriker injured, Brian Orakpo cheap-shotted in St. Louis. Worst officiating ever.

    And that’s not excuse for the game: the Rams played well and deserved the win, I’m talking about the helmet to helmet on a defenseless Fred Davis two feet in front of the ref that obviously knocked him unconcious; the WWF-style body slam on London Fletcher, that could have potentially broken his back; and the physical assault of Mike Shanahan that went totally unaddressed.

    The Rams played a heck of a game, Sam Bradford looked amazing, and they absolutely deserve the W, my point is that about half of their players also deserve a one or two game suspension.

  9. sj39 says: Sep 17, 2012 9:17 AM

    There is nothing wrong with being optomistic about your team but remember there is a reason why they had the 6th pick over all to trade to the Rams. They need a lot more than RGIII.

  10. voiceofreasonsays says: Sep 17, 2012 9:21 AM

    Fellow ‘Skins fan, I’m sad to say it but I think we were probably overrated and overhyped a bit. I vote that we have RGIII shut it down for the year instead of risking injury. He can take some time off, maybe do a few more commercials, while the rest of the team works out the issues. We can regroup next year and start up the bandwagon again.

  11. burgandyandgold says: Sep 17, 2012 9:49 AM

    The Redskins are far from done. Despite the hype core Skins fans still think/thought this team will win anywhere from 7-10 games at best. There are major problems – most noted is the secondary. That was a very frustrating game and I am glad I missed the second half because of a kids basketball game – much better than watching the Skins lose their cool. My gut says Orakpo is done for the year as well as Carriker.

  12. hendawg21 says: Sep 17, 2012 9:59 AM

    To be honest i’m ok with losing Carriker and Orakpo…but first what the H#?? was the defensive game plan yesterday??? Now I think the team is and will be more athletic with Jarvis Jenkins and Chris Baker playing both of whom can play end and NT…as for Orakpo well he’s not impressed me much with his run stopping ability and seems to more suited as just a pass rusher, with that being said I like Rob Jackson who’s a better run stopper as well as pass rusher and there’s still Chris Wilson as well. Orakpo and his injury are becoming like Landry and his injury, I think in the upcoming off season trying to make a trade for a pick would be the answer…

  13. allinskins says: Sep 17, 2012 10:18 AM

    Refs were by far “terrible” in my Charles Barkley voice but was not the reason we lost. We still seem to raise to play better competition ( see Saints, 2011 Gaints) and lower to play less competition( Rams, 2011 and Rams 2012). If we progress as a squad we have dominate teams like this. We scored enough to win but did stop them on the defensive side.

    Got to know where Rak stands hope he is not lost for long time.

  14. xli2006 says: Sep 17, 2012 10:29 AM

    Skins remaining schedule includes:

    Philly x 2
    Dallas x 2
    Giants x 2
    Ravens
    Steelers
    Falcons
    Panthers
    Bengals

    Yikes. You might need those 2 back based on what happened in St. Louis.

  15. thraiderskin says: Sep 17, 2012 10:39 AM

    Some of your are hilarious… the sky is not falling. The Skins can still end with a respectable record. This was one game, RG3 played well, the rest of the team needed to step up (defense) and next week they will. It sucks to lose our big pass rushers, but it happens, all teams face injuries to thier studs. Get an F’in grip.

  16. wethog66 says: Sep 17, 2012 10:47 AM

    Losing Carriker and Orakpo will hurt, but there is depth at both those positions. Depth that never exsisted when LiL Danny and Uncle Vinny were running the front office.

    Jenkins, Golston, and Baker will and can fill Carriker’s shoes and Rob Jackson is a damn good OLB in his own right. Not the pass rushing stud that Orakpo is, but Jackson is a player and Chris Wilson on 3rd downs works as well.

    Thats why I find the negative comments about Shanahan over the years from Skins fans and non-Skins fans laughable. Shanahan is in the midst of a complete rebuild of an NFL organization that has needed a rebuild since 1993. Thats a rebuild that cannot happen overnight.

    Right now there are still some holes on the Skins roster (O-line and secondary), but for the first time in forever the Skins have quality depth at a lot of positions that didn’t exsist before. Defensive line, Linebacker, WR, and RB. Carriker and Orakpo will be losses, but there are backups behind that can fill in and succeed.

    And enough about the Rams game. Its over. The Rams are finally led by a quality HC in Fisher and they earned that victory. Time to move on.

  17. beavertonsteve says: Sep 17, 2012 10:56 AM

    I love how some Redskins fans think that the game was the dirty Rams vs their innocent little angelic Wedskins. Both teams were mixing it up the whole game, before and after the whistle.

    The best part was RG3 yelling at the ref that the Rams tackler hit him helmet to helmet… as he was scrambling down the field.

  18. httr555 says: Sep 17, 2012 11:06 AM

    If not for RG we would have lost by 3 TDs. We were outcoached!!! Plain and simple. Rams OC killed our DC, Haslett was embarrassed. Our OC, Kyle didn’t call a good game either. He’s just fortunate and now has Griffin instead of Rex. Our Special Teams coach, well. 7 Blocked kicks in less than a year and a half. Shannahan tries to ice kicker at half, oops!!! Oh, and we lost by 3!!!! Then trying to kick a 62 yarder with a kicker who hasn’t kicked over 51 yarder in 6 years!! Coaches let the team down. Oh yeah, and thank you Mr. Morgan. You killed the chance to steal a game that we shouldn’t have been in…

  19. kev86 says: Sep 17, 2012 11:19 AM

    RG III looks a little small out there. He looks really fast though. I question if he can handle a full sked. We’ll see.

  20. ramofsteel says: Sep 17, 2012 11:28 AM

    Redskins fans complaining about the refs?? Seriously?! Like when a drive got extended b/c of a tap by Eugune Sims called a personal foul? A blatant block in the back late in the game, giving the Redskins the ball at the 21 instead of around the ten? Oh, oh, how about this one…WHEN THE REFS ACTUALLY TOOK AWAY A LEGIT TD FROM STEVEN JACKSON. I bet you guys weren’t complaining about refs when the Redskins were up 21-6!

  21. hugeredskinsfan says: Sep 17, 2012 11:36 AM

    sj39 says:
    Sep 17, 2012 9:17 AM
    There is nothing wrong with being optomistic about your team but remember there is a reason why they had the 6th pick over all to trade to the Rams. They need a lot more than RGIII.

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    I see your point, but imagine if they didn’t have RG3 that game… Would have been WAY worse…

  22. hendawg21 says: Sep 17, 2012 11:40 AM

    wethog66 says:
    Sep 17, 2012 10:47 AM
    Losing Carriker and Orakpo will hurt, but there is depth at both those positions. Depth that never exsisted when LiL Danny and Uncle Vinny were running the front office.

    Jenkins, Golston, and Baker will and can fill Carriker’s shoes and Rob Jackson is a damn good OLB in his own right. Not the pass rushing stud that Orakpo is, but Jackson is a player and Chris Wilson on 3rd downs works as well.

    Thats why I find the negative comments about Shanahan over the years from Skins fans and non-Skins fans laughable. Shanahan is in the midst of a complete rebuild of an NFL organization that has needed a rebuild since 1993. Thats a rebuild that cannot happen overnight.

    Right now there are still some holes on the Skins roster (O-line and secondary), but for the first time in forever the Skins have quality depth at a lot of positions that didn’t exsist before. Defensive line, Linebacker, WR, and RB. Carriker and Orakpo will be losses, but there are backups behind that can fill in and succeed.

    And enough about the Rams game. Its over. The Rams are finally led by a quality HC in Fisher and they earned that victory. Time to move on.

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    Exactly my point earlier…although I believe Rob Jackson isn’t nor wasn’t the high draft pick that Orakpo was, however, don’t sell him too short, I think he is more rounded OLB than Orakpo or should I say he’s more effective playing the run and will get the same pressure as Orakpo does on pass plays…wait and see…but other than that again you’re points are very good/valid…

  23. gcsuk says: Sep 17, 2012 11:58 AM

    voiceofreasonsays says: Sep 17, 2012 8:47 AM

    The defensive unit let us down by letting a weak Rams offense do things. In particular Hasslett…but the unit typically comes back strong after disappointing showings. I pity the Bengals…they will be our homecoming and team we take out whatever anger is there on. Our offense is clicking, so no worries on that end.
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    Sorry, “voice”, but unless you’re on the team (doubt it), a coach (doubt it), or Daniel Snyder (doubt it), can you please quit with the “we”, “us”, and “our”? You have nothing to do with the team and how it plays. You sitting in front of your computer ALL DAY (obviously) has no bearing on the game.

  24. jwreck says: Sep 17, 2012 12:10 PM

    beavertonsteve says:
    Sep 17, 2012 10:56 AM

    The best part was RG3 yelling at the ref that the Rams tackler hit him helmet to helmet… as he was scrambling down the field.
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    The refs, the announcers, and beavertonsteve are all wrong on that call: yes, the quarterback is obviously no longer untouchable as he’s scrambling down the field, however the tackler still cannot lead with his helmet into a helmet. That’s what James Harrison and Dunta Robinson got in trouble for last year, thus creating the phrase helmet to helmet.

  25. jwreck says: Sep 17, 2012 12:20 PM

    ramofsteel says:
    Sep 17, 2012 11:28 AM
    Redskins fans complaining about the refs?? Seriously?! Like when a drive got extended b/c of a tap by Eugune Sims called a personal foul? A blatant block in the back late in the game, giving the Redskins the ball at the 21 instead of around the ten? Oh, oh, how about this one…WHEN THE REFS ACTUALLY TOOK AWAY A LEGIT TD FROM STEVEN JACKSON. I bet you guys weren’t complaining about refs when the Redskins were up 21-6!
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    Redskins fans are not complaining about the officiating of the game itself. They’re talking about blatant and dangerous missed calls during the game and how the refs let the game get totally out of control to the point where it was dangerous for the players. They’re complaining about the fight after just about every play, the body slam of London Fletcher that literally could have broken the man’s back (and was probably the most tucked up thing I’ve ever seen in a football game), Saffold stomping on Brian Orakpo’s injured shoulder during a scramble for a loose ball, and the helmet to helmet on a defenseless Fred Davis that actually knocked him unconcious right in front of a ref’s face.

    The point is, Redskins fans complaining about the officiating are not saying that if there was better officiating, Washington would have won the game. They’re just complaining about really sloppy and potentially dangerous officiating that could have cost them their best pass rusher for the season, will likely cost them their starting tight end next week, and could have cost the career of one of the greatest middle linebackers ever to play the game.

  26. jwreck says: Sep 17, 2012 12:40 PM

    hendawg21 says:
    Sep 17, 2012 9:59 AM
    I like Rob Jackson who’s a better run stopper as well as pass rusher and there’s still Chris Wilson as well. Orakpo and his injury are becoming like Landry and his injury, I think in the upcoming off season trying to make a trade for a pick would be the answer…
    _______
    First off,

    Orakpo:
    2010: one game missed(leg)
    2011: successful pectoral surgery (just because a shoulder surgery is a success doesn’t mean it will never be an issue again, especially when an offensive lineman stomps on it on purpose while going for a loose ball)
    2012: 3 preseason games missed (shoulder)
    yesterday: 4 plays missed (shoulder due to uncalled cheap shot in a loose ball scramble)

    Landry:
    2009: one game missed (bloating, cramps)
    2010: 4 preseason games missed (shrinkage), 7 games missed (achilles)
    2010: unsuccessful achilles surgery
    2011: 8 games missed, 5 games early exit (achilles, also probably shrinkage)

    How can you possibly compare these two players? While their injury situation is clearly not even remotely similar, they are completely different players on the field and in the locker room as well. Orakpo may not be a phenomenal run-stopper, but part of that is because he’s past his blockers so fast it becomes a moot point. More importantly, unlike Landry, he really cares. He’s a smart player, a pass-rusher who is nowhere near his peak yet, and there is no way Washington could possibly gain a competitive advantage by trading him.

  27. wethog66 says: Sep 17, 2012 1:04 PM

    @ramofsteel

    I am a Skins fan and I have made blanket statements on this site that the Scab Refs were horrible. Didn’t say they solely impacted the Skins or were responsible for the Skins loss. Just that they were overrall piss poor.

    What I have said is that the Rams played dirty yesterday. That is a fact. The Rams set the tone early in the game yesterday that they would take cheap shots from the outset. STarted with little scrums after the whistle to cheap shots on London Fletcher and Fred Davis at the end of the game, finally culminating with Finnegan’s punch to Josh Morgan’s head that led to Morgan losing his friggin mind.

    In the end though the Skins lost the game and they deserved to. You won’t read me say any different, but please don’t pretend that the Rams were just the better team yesterday in a game decided by 3 points. You would be doing Chuck Cecil a disservice.

  28. ramofsteel says: Sep 17, 2012 2:05 PM

    @wethog66

    As soon as I read “Finnegan’s punch to Josh Morgan’s head” I just laughed. What punch? It wasn’t even a punch, it was a swipe and was walking away. Granted, I didn’t know what he said, if anything but punch? C’mon man.

    Jenkins’ hit was perfectly legal. It was led w/ the shoulder. Just b/c your guy got hurt (and I’m not wishing injury) doesn’t mean it was illegal. Jenkins’ helmet crown isn’t anywear near his head.

    Better team? Yeah, I think the Rams were. Considering they were down 21-6 at one point. Maybe Washington’s D should’ve stopped them once in a while. Or contained Daryl Richardson, 7th round rookie. Or get more than a 3 and out in the 2nd half, without the refs’ help.

  29. wethog66 says: Sep 17, 2012 2:26 PM

    @ramofsteel

    The Rams couldn’t stop Griffin and the Skins 6th round rookie RB Alfred Morris averaged 5.6 yards a run. And with the game on the line the Rams 7th round RB had the ball stripped from his hands by a 37 MLB the Rams gave up on. So whats your point?

    The Rams were the better team yesterday, but not by much. 3 points to be exact.

    And if you think Jenkins hit on Davis was legal then this conversation is over. Perfect example of hit to the head of a defenseless receiver. And if that BS horse collar was called on Lorenzo Alexander on that last punt returned by Amendola, then Jenkins hit on Davis should of been called.

    As I said before, the Scab Refs were horrible throughout the game. Their calls affected both sides.

  30. deshackle says: Sep 17, 2012 3:13 PM

    Bad refereeing and bad defense cost the skins yesterday. 2 sacks aint gonna get it done. 300 yards of passing and 141 yards of rushing for the sorry Rams. Skins missed dirty 30 yesterday.

  31. ramofsteel says: Sep 17, 2012 10:37 PM

    Please, I didn’t know leading w/ the shoulder is considered illegal. Jenkins’ crown wasn’t even the 1st part to hit him.

    You seriously saying these Rams gave up on LFB? That was damn near 10 years ago!

    Hey, I’ll give credit 2 RG3 and Morris all day. They gashed the the Ram D. But some reason got away from it?

    I don’t want to hear Redskins fans whine about the refs. Especially a game in which a TOUCHDOWN WAS TAKEN AWAY from the Rams, and up 21-6, and 28-23 at different points of the game. Maybe your concern should be directed at Haslett, who all Rams fan know all too well.

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