Comments on: Peyton Manning on arm strength: I am what I am

By: diamondmo33

diamondmo33 — Sun, 23 Sep 2012 05:48:53 +0000

Toast

By: CKL

CKL — Thu, 20 Sep 2012 17:24:10 +0000

mjkelly77 says:
Sep 19, 2012 8:45 PM
Peyton Manning on arm strength: I am what I am
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Peyton Manning on character: I am what I am

manning is a con man who knew he was through last year. He fooled someone into paying him a fortune for what will be minimal results.

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I seriously, seriously despise PM but I don’t think he conned anyone. He’s said that he’s not back to where he wants to be and it was reported by several people (Mort & Schefter for two) before the season even started that the Broncos were aware there were several throws PM could never make again. If anything, Denver bought him high based on the hopes that whatever % he is, that will be enough. Whether they are right or not remains to be seen.

By: golonger

golonger — Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:00:03 +0000

Yes, I am what I am….a flawed QB who performs poorly in the clutch..who never had a strong arm..and will be an INT machine this year. Teams now know that they can bait him into throwing picks. And the fact that they were going to put in the back-up to throw the final Hail Mary in the Monday Night game is really sad. If you think it is bad now, wait until the playoffs (if they even make it there) and the seperation and throwing wondows get even SMALLER….he’s toast…and no, he is not even close to being better than 90% of the QBs out there!!!

By: beeronthefridge

beeronthefridge — Thu, 20 Sep 2012 13:49:08 +0000

Manning was so stiff necked, before, during and after the game, that he looked like an automobile accident plaintiff in court.

By: jasonandrew76

jasonandrew76 — Thu, 20 Sep 2012 12:51:55 +0000

Did anyone watch the game after the 1st quarter? Didn’t anyone see the ball that went through Deckers hands in the 4th quarter? It was a 40-50 yd, tight spiraled, on the money throw right down the middle of the field that if anything was overthrown a tad. Give the man some time to shake off the rust and get on the same page as his receivers. Not to mention, due to the nature of his surgeries, his arm strength should IMPROVE not decline. Chew on that for a while. In the meantime, do Broncos fans a favor and keep badmouthing him. Please…Please keep giving one of the most motivated people in the sport’s history more motivation.

By: 1historian

1historian — Thu, 20 Sep 2012 11:22:06 +0000

I’ve been saying for more than a year that Manning is one big hit away from a wheelchair. I stand by that.

“He’s lost something off his fastball.” He doesn’t have a fastball any more.

I hate to say something nice about irsay, but he was right to release Manning. 2 reasons – with the o-line Indy has a 37 year old qb is sooner or later going to get demolished, and having Manning on the sideline watching his replacement was just NOT going to happen – Manning’s ego wouldn’t/couldn’t take it.

By: dannythebisforbeast

dannythebisforbeast — Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:58:13 +0000

Multiple neck surgeries, new team all new players almost 2 years off. Maybe he give him some time to find a rhythm with his teammates. When he lights up a team for 4 Tds then what?

By: joetoronto

joetoronto — Thu, 20 Sep 2012 07:33:13 +0000

liddogg33 says:
Sep 19, 2012 8:18 PM
I can truly say this.. As a die hard Seattle fan I couldnt be happier that Peyton didnt get on the seaplane when pete and the boys flew in to Denver. Not taking away from his exceptional mind and talent level I just see so much more upside in Russell Wilson then I do in an older, slower, and obviously weaker armed Manning.
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Wilson only looks good to you Seattle fans.

You’ve been drinking the Kool-aid Pete Carroll has given you.

By: kittensmittiens24

kittensmittiens24 — Thu, 20 Sep 2012 06:33:29 +0000

theres no questioning the guys football iq . its probably one of the best, but his passes are with no zip and you need zip in 30 yd plus passes . theres no way they go far in thd playoffs with just a run game , i highly doubt he plays his full contract, its actually kinda sad to see him play and not being able to make any kind of good throw past 20 yards … he should of retired, been a qb coach . hes rich off the commercials he has one ring. anyone who thinks this manning can win a superbowl is nuts, every superbowl team in the past 5 years in a qb league like it is now has to throw the deep ball

By: Grinds My Gear

Grinds My Gear — Thu, 20 Sep 2012 05:59:01 +0000

I think the game in Denver was a little bit of a fluke for Manning, it was high attitude the ball has a bit more travel so it looked like Manning still had that fast ball. In Atlanta not so much, it was pretty obvious Manning doesn’t have the arm strength he once had, not even close and by that I mean not even close to his last season starting in Indy. I think Denver will struggle on the road, really a home team warrior.

Its not so much the bad game, but anyone that watches football can see that besides from the pre-snap, and the pocket characteristics this is not the Manning from the end of his Indy days.

By: 16niners

16niners — Thu, 20 Sep 2012 04:52:31 +0000

Lotta ducks flying around in Atlanta on Monday. Be interesting when he has to go up against a real ball hawking defense.

By: johninthewest

johninthewest — Thu, 20 Sep 2012 03:45:47 +0000

Seriously?? Media going to judge and predict the outcome of the season being only the second game?? Next week we’ll here that Peyton is the old Peyton. If the Broncos pulled the last minute win off this wouldn’t be a subject of any conversation! Give me a break about arm strength.. Do the NFL’s elite QB’s not have bad games??

By: true9erfan66

true9erfan66 — Thu, 20 Sep 2012 02:43:49 +0000

I’m not ripping on Manning, But I am gonna say all you guys that said oh all manning has to do is be average with the Broncos defense. Umm no you guys need to pay attention. Last year the Broncos was ranked 20th overall look it up and after only 2 games there not great in pass comPletions or run average. They are top 10 right now in INT but that wasn’t there defense it was manning threw 3 gifts there defense or CB didn’t disguise or come up fast they were thrown balls right to them. Than in QB pressure hits hurries ect very average there at 13 th and I know all the bronco fans think they have this great pass rush but you are 13th in what I stated above. That is part of dominate pass rush to cause pressure make the QB make bad decisions and no that’s not what happened with Manning watch the game he wasn’t under pressure any of those 3 picks but anyway and your big sacks your 9th in the league no big. Whoop there now yes only 2 games but miller got 1 sack Elvis. Has been silent I’m not saying they can’t turn it around but right now doesn’t make me think there anything special plus 1 more time broncos was 20th in league last year in total defense and that’s easy to look up they were the most overrated defense last year. But stats don’t lie they were 20th overall and they didn’t bring in new Free agents to speak of like they got terry porter an old average CB but with them not bringing anyone in and not haveing a very good D last year, Not saying cant get better but right now there not blowing anyone away. And with the fact they weren’t great last year. I’m not seeing this whole oh Manning just needs to be smart cause defense will carry them thing cause defense won’t at least not with stats from last year and what they have done so far this year. So I guess what I’m saying is don’t over hype your team. Pay attention and see that right now there average.

By: ddogdaddy

ddogdaddy — Thu, 20 Sep 2012 02:14:59 +0000

In the immortal words of Yul Brenner. “Who’s your messiah now”? Make up your mind people. Either your on the boat or not. First week good, second week not so much. Sorry Tom Brady it appears the people have spoken. You got to go. Too funny.

By: fdugrad

fdugrad — Thu, 20 Sep 2012 02:02:30 +0000

I agree with your assertion that the first two passes fluttered, however I think the third miscue had plenty of velocity. Obviously, an int. is not good, regardless the speed, however it is only two games and perhaps he needs to get warmed up as the game progresses or is not quite where he needs to be just yet. Perhaps another assessment after game four or five regarding arm strength is warranted. At any rate, eventually he won’t be able to hide any glaring weaknesses, regardless the circumstances .

By: flaccodelic

flaccodelic — Thu, 20 Sep 2012 02:02:16 +0000

Kyle Boller had a great arm and proved that you can have a great arm and still absolutely suck as a QB. Peyton’s got a couple years left just based on his football IQ.

By: croghan1919

croghan1919 — Thu, 20 Sep 2012 01:33:00 +0000

f00sballfan says:
Sep 19, 2012 6:08 PM

“I’m weak to the finish, my neck’s made of spinach. I’m Peypey the sail em’ man.”
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I spewed a mouthful of beer at my comp screen when I busted out laughing while reading that, thanks.
Beware of paybacks foosball.

By: redstar504

redstar504 — Thu, 20 Sep 2012 01:16:36 +0000

@dbara43
That is exactly what I see the rest of the year teams are going to crowd the line and single cover the deep with a safety floating around back there to round up the ducks. Teams are going to give him good looks deep daring him to put it up and again I really think that once he realizes he can’t get it there and take advantage of what defenses are giving him I really think he walks. He is too much of a perfectionist to let that happen.

By: redstar504

redstar504 — Thu, 20 Sep 2012 01:05:04 +0000

Call me crazy but I doubt he makes the season. He was a great QB the best ever IMO. That said while the skills have eroded the make up of the man hasn’t. He still is and will always be a perfectionist. If he has another couple of games like that I do see him stepping aside. He is the consummate teammate, the anti-Favre so to speak, he is not going to let his loss of ability hold his teammates back for his own personal gain. I don’t see him as a guy in it to pad his stats or bank account.
That’s just the mental aspect of it a lot of folks are quick to forget that he had a series of surgeries that leave most people on disability for the rest of their lives.
If he can do it I have no doubt that he will but if he can’t I can see him stepping down before the end of the year.

By: mjkelly77

mjkelly77 — Thu, 20 Sep 2012 00:57:44 +0000

peytonsneck18 says:Sep 19, 2012 7:04 PM

and folks clowned Irsay for making the switch to Luck from day one
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But you didn’t and neither did I. Irsay knew the greedy Swamp Boy was done. And so did manning himself. He just wanted to con someone into giving him some big time guaranteed cash. And his agent has him in every other commercial on television. The Broncos will soon realize that they made a terrible mistake but they’re still in denial right now.

By: wizahdry

wizahdry — Thu, 20 Sep 2012 00:51:33 +0000

I have been worried about Peyton’s arm strength the whole time. Just look at the film. He hasn’t thrown one tight spiral with zip through the preseason or reg season.

Look at his film from a few years ago. You won’t find any wobbly ducks at all. I re-watched two games was almost 100 passes and all were tight spirals, like a lazer.

Manning is getting by right now for 3 reasons:
1) He reads defenses very well
2)He has one of the quickest releases ever
3)Anticipation of where everyone on the field will be

Unfortunately, he can’t always anticipate right and he is going to throw a lot of picks, especially on the road. His arm is definitely not what it was and in the NFL, with such tight windows, that makes a big difference.

By: mjkelly77

mjkelly77 — Thu, 20 Sep 2012 00:45:46 +0000

Peyton Manning on arm strength: I am what I am
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Peyton Manning on character: I am what I am

manning is a con man who knew he was through last year. He fooled someone into paying him a fortune for what will be minimal results.

By: getsome99

getsome99 — Thu, 20 Sep 2012 00:37:53 +0000

He’s done. He can say whatever he wants, but opposing teams have it on film. He also looked stiff necked during the post game press conference.

By: nomoreseasontix

nomoreseasontix — Thu, 20 Sep 2012 00:35:03 +0000

I’m a Raider fan, but I hope he’s successful.
I’d hate for Irsay to suddenly look smart….

By: billsin20xx

billsin20xx — Thu, 20 Sep 2012 00:22:16 +0000

He was tremendous the first week at home. I wonder how much the thin air at home effects his throws?

By: liddogg33

liddogg33 — Thu, 20 Sep 2012 00:18:26 +0000

I can truly say this.. As a die hard Seattle fan I couldnt be happier that Peyton didnt get on the seaplane when pete and the boys flew in to Denver. Not taking away from his exceptional mind and talent level I just see so much more upside in Russell Wilson then I do in an older, slower, and obviously weaker armed Manning.

By: 16x8equal49ers

16x8equal49ers — Wed, 19 Sep 2012 23:43:07 +0000

He has never had great arm strength. He has great timing on when & where the reciever is. Pair him with a good route runner & you have a deadly combination. That was the Colts offense.

By: surly1n1nd1anapol1s

surly1n1nd1anapol1s — Wed, 19 Sep 2012 23:41:42 +0000

This indoor/outdoor argument is as stupid as can be. Monday night was indoors so WTF?

Peyton has been out for a year with a neck injury so weak arm strength is likely.

Game outcomes reliant on a prayer are likely an indictment of team performance in most instances.

By: Patriot42

Patriot42 — Wed, 19 Sep 2012 23:33:15 +0000

When Yogi was asked about Peyton he said “It ain’t over till it’s over.” and “I wish I had an answer to that because I’m tired of answering that question.”

By: jamesmcv72

jamesmcv72 — Wed, 19 Sep 2012 23:31:41 +0000

As a Texan fan, let me tell you. Write this guy off at your peril. Pretty nervous about this Sunday.

If I was a Broncos fan, I would probably be a lot more nervous about facing the Texan’s D.