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Horton’s “tell” tale was a tall tale

Ray Horton AP

I’ve said before — and I’ll say again — that I’ll never take anything any NFL coach says at face value.  And I would have been wise to follow my own advice on Wednesday, after hearing Cardinals defensive coordinator Ray Horton bragged on an Arizona radio station that he had spotted a fairly basic “tell” in the New England offense.

Listen to what Horton said regarding the Patriots’ offense.  Before tight end Aaron Hernandez was hurt, the Pats ran the ball when Hernandez was lined up tight to the line, and they passed when Hernandez was split wide.  After Hernandez was hurt, the Pats ran whenever quarterback Tom Brady lined up under center, and they passed whenever Brady was in shotgun.

Now here’s the reality.  Thanks to the new availability of coaches film from the NFL Game Rewind service, which charts plays and allows each of them to be reviewed individually via an All-22 camera angle, Horton’s claim is just.  flat.  wrong.

Hernandez sprained his ankle on the third offensive snap.  (Hardly enough time for Horton to spot any real tendencies.)  After that, the Patriots ran out of shotgun formation 10 times — including the woulda-coulda-shoulda touchdown run from Danny Woodhead that was called back on a Gronk holding penalty.  And the Pats passed when Brady lined up under center 11 times.

That’s 21 plays that directly contradict the tendencies that Horton boasted the Cardinals saw.  Not one or two.  Twenty-one!

We’re not going to try to figure out whether Horton was intentionally lying or whether he was grossly misinformed.  Either way, the comment turns what was a high point of his coaching career quickly into a low point.  (And, yes, I regret taking his words at face value and not checking the game tape sooner.  I could make 50 Francesa-style excuses, but the fact remains that I erroneously trusted that Horton was telling the truth or something reasonably close to it.)

Besides, what did Horton gain from it?  Thumping his chest inaccurately serves only to take credit away from the guys who earned the win on the field.  So good luck commanding a room full of defensive players.  It also will serve only to piss of Pats coach Bill Belichick — which won’t help Horton or any team for which he’s working whenever that team comes up against the Patriots again in the future.

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39 Responses to “Horton’s “tell” tale was a tall tale”
  1. richndc says: Sep 20, 2012 11:21 AM

    lies, lies, from tiny eyes. Maybe ole shrimp-eyes is trying for a spot with Jerrah. He likes lies too.

  2. dmartin17 says: Sep 20, 2012 11:21 AM

    And even if it WAS true he’s an idiot for alerting it to anyone else in the league (though if 1 team knows they’d all know)

  3. soldierofislam says: Sep 20, 2012 11:24 AM

    Horton Hears a Who

  4. redskinpotatoes says: Sep 20, 2012 11:25 AM

    Horton trolled the believers pretty hard.

  5. rc33 says: Sep 20, 2012 11:28 AM

    Reading Horton’s explanation, it just seemed too elementary, especially for an offense that’s as seasoned as the Patriots. I mean, under Center they run, in the shotgun they pass? And that’s it?

  6. CKL says: Sep 20, 2012 11:29 AM

    He’s probably crowing because they were huge underdogs and they won primarily due to the unit he coaches. Meh…we’ve heard worse from NYJ players. ;)

  7. nnagi says: Sep 20, 2012 11:30 AM

    Horton always claims he can spot a “tell”…he’s full of crap

  8. mattwalshvideo says: Sep 20, 2012 11:30 AM

    Bill Belicheat suddenly doesn’t look like the “genius”
    all the lapdog media has hoisted upon him now that Tom Brady looks mortal and he can’t steal teams signals.

    Horton schooled Belicheater.

  9. ctimesthr33 says: Sep 20, 2012 11:34 AM

    That sounded fishy to me when I first heard it, the pats offesne is probably the most complex in the league, just ask ocho

  10. sportsmeccabi says: Sep 20, 2012 11:37 AM

    Hey! He tried to make us think he could tell what kind of play the patriots were running before they ran it when he really couldn’t. You’re a phony! Hey everyone! Look at this big fat phony!

  11. kotcha23 says: Sep 20, 2012 11:37 AM

    I didn’t even watch the game and I could have told you he was lying. It’s just common sense that his claims would not be the case for all plays.

  12. hummer53 says: Sep 20, 2012 11:41 AM

    I’ve heard Horton before. He did seem blabby that day in the interview. Usually you get coach speak on the radio. I didn’t pick up on it at first either.

  13. jeremycrowhurst says: Sep 20, 2012 11:44 AM

    I’m surprised that Horton didn’t reveal the other big tell in the Patriots offense: that when Brady was on the field taking the snap, the Patriots were going to try to advance the ball forward, but when the punter or placekicker came onto the field….

  14. fthrvic says: Sep 20, 2012 11:47 AM

    Sounds like a little gamesmanship to me, good for Horton for ribbing Belicheat a little bit.

  15. jaymc1988 says: Sep 20, 2012 11:51 AM

    am i the only one left thinking after reading this article and what horton said to the newspaper “who gives a damn”.. i mean really who cares, the guy just beat tom brady and belichek and is on a team where winning/good defense isnt a common theme in arizona..so if the guy thought he got some tells, and confused brady then really..who cares lol..why is it such a big issue. maybe he rly inside his head seen tell signs and thought he confused brady. hell he won, so who is it for us 2 say hes lying lol

  16. realitypolice says: Sep 20, 2012 11:55 AM

    I know you need to make everything that happens sound super important and sure to cause dire consequences, but the idea that he will lose the respect of the players in his room is simply ludicrous.

    Given the fact that Horton almost certainly had reviewed the game tape long before you got around to it, reasonable minds can only come to the conclusion that he was either a) trolling the interviewers, b) trying to twist Belichick’s tail, or c) some combination of both.

    If there was any reaction “in the room” to it all, it was probably laughter.

  17. tdubdizzle says: Sep 20, 2012 11:57 AM

    I don’t think he meant it as literal as you’ve made it sound. This is not going to affect the defenses performance whatsoever. If the Cardinals lose their next game it’s because they just snuck out of the last two. Stop trying to make drama out of nothing and quit referring to previous quotes by yourself…We get it…You can predict the future and you’re not guessing at all.

  18. piratefreedom says: Sep 20, 2012 11:58 AM

    as a patriot fan the way i saw it was the cardinals have some damn good players on defense, especially peterson, and they made more plays then the patriots did.

  19. heyguru1969 says: Sep 20, 2012 12:00 PM

    I’d like to get Mr. Horton on a poker table. He could decipher my “tells” just in time to watch me stack his last chips in front of me.

  20. thegreatgabbert says: Sep 20, 2012 12:11 PM

    The third option is that he is as dumb as dirt. Like pretty much everyone else ever associated with the Pittsburgh Steeler organization.

  21. eezyxyz says: Sep 20, 2012 12:14 PM

    Looks bad for Horton because he comes across as a big-mouth, but what did he actually say? The only direct quote from Horton in your original post was:

    “I heard through Jay Feely that he talked to Tom Brady after the game and Tom said, ‘I have no idea what you guys are doing,’ and so it did work”

    So, there’s nothing in there as specific as when Brady’s in shotgun …etc., etc. What did Horton actually say when describing the “tell”? Are you sure he didn’t include more specifics about downs-and-distances? Was the context for his comments a handful of specific plays in the game rather than the entire game?

  22. all4patriots says: Sep 20, 2012 12:15 PM

    Mike,

    You should probably credit Mike Reiss of ESPN Boston, who mid-yesterday afternoon first reported on the percentages and the number of runs from shotgun / number of passes from under center, clearly showing Horton was straying very far from the facts.

  23. tialen says: Sep 20, 2012 12:22 PM

    When has a coach ever told the truth when he didn’t have to? All coaches lie, get over it.

  24. mburkett1980 says: Sep 20, 2012 12:30 PM

    The tell probably took into account specific situations on Horton’s play chart. He likely just broke this down in an elementary fashion for the media show.

  25. EJ says: Sep 20, 2012 12:32 PM

    I don’t understand lying about something that can be proven with a laptop and a half hour. Maybe the guy thought he was seeing something because of the pressure that was on him? Or maybe he is just a limelight hog? Which ever one it is, I’m sure that by now he is pretty embarrassed about the whole situation.

  26. sj39 says: Sep 20, 2012 12:41 PM

    The Patriots just are not that good (no offense to the Big Red) without the cheating that has left Bb and Brady with a big fat asterisk tattoo on their foreheads. On top of that, they are getting old and have not done a good job at re-stocking while trying to save face and win now. They are drifting back into the irrelevant team they were for so long. Buh-buy.

  27. Patskrieg dot com says: Sep 20, 2012 12:44 PM

    That’s great, but it still doesn’t make the offensive gameplan McDaniels brought any less terrible. A lot of aspects were still very predictable, and they stuck with cutbacks and screens without any success almost the entire day.

  28. essentialsausage says: Sep 20, 2012 1:08 PM

    So what? The Cardinals won the game, that’s the important thing.

  29. omniscient48 says: Sep 20, 2012 1:22 PM

    Here is a tell for ya:

    When Skelton or Kolb have time to throw a pass, it will be incomplete.

  30. mrconnors says: Sep 20, 2012 1:23 PM

    Since spygate, Brady has thrown for 50 TD’s to 8 picks, 28 TD’s to 13 picks, 36 TD’s to 4 picks, and 39 TD’s to 12 picks. This year he’s 3-1.

    So 156 TD’s to 38 picks. Too bad he doesn’t have those magic signals anymore. He would like, totally throw for 1000 TD’s to 9 picks.

    And Sj39, yeah, they have one defensive starter who is 30, Wilfork. I understand your sole purpose in life is to post in every Patriots topic, but at least get something resembling a fact before you post.

  31. all4patriots says: Sep 20, 2012 1:24 PM

    sj39

    Have you not been paying attention? The Patriots have gone from one of the five oldest teams in the league three years ago to one of the five youngest teams in the league today. Yes, right now.

    They have completed a talent reload on both sides of the ball, an unprecedented rebuild in which the low points were 14-2 and 13-3 seasons.

    Irrelevant?

    Hardly.

    Harbaugh says they are better than last year, and he’s right if you watch Jones, Hightower, a healthy Spikes, Cunningham, and others.

  32. mgdsquiggy17 says: Sep 20, 2012 1:25 PM

    “So good luck commanding a room full of defensive players. ”

    Really? I think he did a pretty good job when he commanded them to a win against one of the best teams in the NFL. I would bet those defensive players could care less that he is lying to people like you who try to make controversy out of anything.

  33. kylexitron says: Sep 20, 2012 1:26 PM

    Wow, coaches don’t reveal all of their inside information to the media hounds????

    I always like it when the media tries to make someone sound untrustworthy when the media’s entire job is to exploit information at the cost of it’s subjects.

  34. beavertonsteve says: Sep 20, 2012 1:38 PM

    The Patriots ran 100% of the time they weren’t passing.

  35. koenig61 says: Sep 20, 2012 2:16 PM

    Who cares if Horton misled you? Perhaps Horton did see a tell, but gave phony information just in case he has to face the Patriots in the future, or perhaps he did it to keep Bill Belichick locked in the film room looking at tape to figure out what the tell might be? Is it really that serious that you were misinformed? As if Bill Belichick hasnt misinformed every writer he ever spoke with? Lighten up. You are taking this way to personal. Until you know 100% for certain Horton lied to you, why get so bunched up over it?

  36. zoneblitzcom says: Sep 20, 2012 2:59 PM

    By my count, there were roughly 86 offensive plays in the game for the Patriots (+/- 3 plays, probably).

    I’m not a lawyer from West Virginia, but my math on that says that roughly 75% of the time, the Patriots followed the pattern that Horton claims to have seen prior to the game.

    You know what it’s called when someone follows a pattern 75% of the time? That is to say they have an inclination toward a particular characteristic or type of behavior? That’s defined as a tendency.

    How many defensive coaches would like to have the knowledge that 75% of the time, they can tell whether or not it’s a run or a pass? I’m guessing most would be pretty happy with those odds.

  37. grumpyoleman says: Sep 20, 2012 3:29 PM

    Everytime they hand the ball off to a running back they ran with it.

    When the kicker kicked the ball it went in the air.

    When you call heads or tails before the game they are either right or wrong.

    I notice things too.

  38. westclaims says: Sep 20, 2012 5:02 PM

    None of this matters (except to you know who). The Cardinals beat the Patriots. Quit trying to diminish that. It is what it is, (whether you know who) likes it or not.

  39. westclaims says: Sep 20, 2012 5:25 PM

    “Besides, what did Horton gain from it?”

    He made a fool out of you.

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