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Before “moving past” kneeldown issue, Schiano reiterates respect for game

Greg Schiano, Tom Coughlin AP

Buccaneers coach Greg Schiano unwittingly gave us the story of the week, with his decision to ask his guys to play football during, you know, a football game that still hadn’t been decided.

He made it clear during a Friday appearance on Pro Football Talk that he’s ready to turn the page.

“I’d like to move past this right now,” the first-year NFL head coach said after fielding a couple of lingering questions about the incident that arose at the end of Tampa’s Week Two game against the Giants. “We have a big game with the Cowboys, but I do want to clear it up because I respect the game of football too much, and that’s a play that’s in our playbook.

“We line up. We’re not diving at knees. We’re not doing any of that stuff. There’s techniques that are used to try to jar the ball loose and to have guys in position to recover it. As I’ve talked about before, we’ve done that in the past and actually created a fumble C-Q exchange four times in the past four or five years. It does work, if executed properly, and there’s some tricks to it that you’ve got to do.

“But certainly it’s about clean, hard football and trying to win a game. If the game was out of reach, we wouldn’t use it. It’s strictly about winning games. I want to make that clear. This game’s been too good to me and too important, and I don’t ever want anyone to perceive it as a lack of respect of anyone or anything.”

Although I initially was caught up in the “that’s B.S!” brigade, which had Giants coach Tom Coughlin as its drum major and Eli Manning uncharacteristically playing tuba, I realized after a day or two that, if the move had worked, we’d all be saying that Schiano is a genius.

Regardless of your own views on the matter, none of us will ever look at the play the same way again.

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27 Responses to “Before “moving past” kneeldown issue, Schiano reiterates respect for game”
  1. bigbluefan11 says: Sep 22, 2012 3:24 PM

    I think the Giants, especially Eli, were giving themselves/himself up on the play and therefore hits delivered would be subject to penalty. That said, the NFL correctly fined the players that retaliated.

  2. realitypolice says: Sep 22, 2012 3:26 PM

    He’s absolutely right. No one has a right to assume that a team they are beating by only one score will lay down because they asked them to.

    It’s not like they were leading by 30 points.

  3. strokeytheclown says: Sep 22, 2012 3:49 PM

    Its over with! Move on Tom!

  4. panthrobro says: Sep 22, 2012 3:50 PM

    Actualy nobody would be talking about it if Coughlan wasn’t such a grumpy old man. I could just see Coughlan at a restaurant yelling at his waiter or bartender the same way he yells at everyone lol.

  5. mjkelly77 says: Sep 22, 2012 3:54 PM

    I agree with Schiano. If causing a fumble gives you a shot at a win, why not.

  6. jagsfanugh says: Sep 22, 2012 4:08 PM

    This guy is not respected in the league and it is the result of how he treated visitors at Rutger. I wonder if this situation will further that discord even further.

  7. farty5 says: Sep 22, 2012 4:10 PM

    Where were Schiano’s “techniques” and “plays” when the Giants were knocking on the goal-line and the Bucs D WANTED them to score.

    You go hard when you can actually impact a game, not against the victory formation.

  8. oxfordthecat says: Sep 22, 2012 4:16 PM

    He didn’t need to reiterate his respect for the game.

    I already knew how much he respected the game by his willingness to play the game to the final whistle instead of surrendering before the clock hit zero.

  9. texasbuc30 says: Sep 22, 2012 4:27 PM

    The unwritten rules in the NFL to me is just a lack of passion. That is one thing I do like about college football. This play is not out of the ordinary on Saturday afternoon, but involve money and it’s ok to quit with 2 minutes to go. It was highly unlikely the play would work but I admire the passion to at least try and win instead of rolling over.

  10. pb420 says: Sep 22, 2012 4:31 PM

    @ jagsfanugh:

    I guarantee you that he is more respected than mularkey. Plenty going wrong on your own team for you to be worrying about, and the Bucs will be just fine don’t you worry.

  11. gotampabay52 says: Sep 22, 2012 4:36 PM

    screw gaint and jag fans its football why dont you go play powder puff stupid fans its attempt to cause a fumble sorry your team kneel down to go shower together you play to win we didnt do it in the first half cauae there is anothr half of footbal to play it was end of game we had one chance to causr fumble u go for it screw any fan who is against there team trying to win a game

  12. jaymc1988 says: Sep 22, 2012 4:41 PM

    everyone needs to move on.. it was clean. legal. 7pt game with 4-5 big passing plays in the 4th qtr anything could of happened had a fumble occured.

  13. elijason says: Sep 22, 2012 4:59 PM

    What’s next in his playbook? Hitting the guy who kneels down for a touchback?….or, how about laying out the guy who calls for a fair catch?

  14. kenudo says: Sep 22, 2012 5:12 PM

    I understand that it can and has worked but the reason it worked is because at that point it is no longer a legitimately competitive situation, and what you’re doing is taking advantage of an opponent who has let their guard down. If they were ready for it, there’s no way you’re creating a fumble in that situation. If you were able to, you’d be using those “techniques” throughout the course of the game trying to force a fumble. It’s just a cheap tactic used by a team who can’t win for real.

  15. gcsuk says: Sep 22, 2012 5:35 PM

    gotampabay52 says:
    Sep 22, 2012 4:36 PM
    screw gaint and jag fans its football why dont you go play powder puff stupid fans its attempt to cause a fumble sorry your team kneel down to go shower together you play to win we didnt do it in the first half cauae there is anothr half of footbal to play it was end of game we had one chance to causr fumble u go for it screw any fan who is against there team trying to win a game
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    Did you pay half price for the keyboard with no punctuation and the computer with no spell check?

    Makes me glad I’m not a Bucs fan…I would have something in common with this guy.

    You’re right. It’s football. Can Bucs fans stop crying about the hit on Vincent Jackson? After all, it’s not powder puff.

  16. legacybroken says: Sep 22, 2012 5:36 PM

    I dont know why Jags fans are getting on this. Its not like the Jaguars with Gabbert at QB are going too see any dituations where they could even run the victory formation.

  17. eezyxyz says: Sep 22, 2012 5:36 PM

    I’m with Schiano on this, and this is exactly why I’ve never liked “fake spike” plays where the QB acts like he’s going to spike the ball to stop the clock but then tries to throw for a TD instead.

    I’ve always hated those plays because I know that if a D ever actually played hard and tried to hit the QB on an actual fake spike they’d be heavily criticized by the opposing team/coaches, just as Coughlin did here.

    But IMO you can’t have it both ways … if QBs can fake a spike and try to throw for a TD then defenses should be able to treat spikes as business as usual and try their best to hit the QB as he executes the play.

  18. bucforever says: Sep 22, 2012 5:52 PM

    I have never liked the “victory formation” . What is that anyway. You are cheating the fans out of a real play!

  19. arlingtonassasin says: Sep 22, 2012 5:58 PM

    Eli should’ve dropped back and threw ANOTHER bomb to Nicks. How would Bucs fans like that?! Giants werent interested in running up the score but they damn will be next time.

  20. righton989 says: Sep 22, 2012 6:08 PM

    Schiano ran a dirty play because he is a sore loser coach. He never once won a Big East title running his dirty plays. Had the Lions’ Jim Schwartz run that play against the 49ers, Harbaugh would have torn his nuts off. The rest of the league will be waiting for the chance to make Freeman and the Bucs pay for his sore loser dirty tactics.

  21. commandercornpone says: Sep 22, 2012 6:26 PM

    i suggest nyg and co stop acting like they are owed a play off.

    the clock is running, nyg had to snap the ball, quit acting like it’s the pro bowl.

    now, 50 years ago some unnamed OL got mad at DT ernie stautner for going all out in the pro bowl. he told them to play hard cause they were still getting paid.

    u were still getting paid, giants. play hard. stop expecting freebies.

  22. offthelows says: Sep 22, 2012 6:29 PM

    whether people think it’s right to do or not, the improbability that it would work combined with the media heat someone takes for trying it and the distraction that it’s caused doesn’t seem to make it worth the risk. There seems to be a media generated nanny state when it comes to playing football where people are consumed by injury risk and fines, bellyaching about it whenever it happens with the sports media, Mike as exhibit A in the media nanny state, leading the charge.

  23. bobzilla1001 says: Sep 22, 2012 7:05 PM

    A coach who instructs his defense to allow an opposing offense to score is a coach with a PLAN, a strategy that might give his own offense the needed time to score a game-winning TD.
    Greg Schiano is a good coach. The job he did at Rutgers was nothing short of remarkable. I was actually pulling for him to become Joe Paterno’s successor at Penn State…
    The Bucs have found themselves a damn good coach.

  24. joetoronto says: Sep 23, 2012 5:21 AM

    oxfordthecat says:
    Sep 22, 2012 4:16 PM
    He didn’t need to reiterate his respect for the game.

    I already knew how much he respected the game by his willingness to play the game to the final whistle instead of surrendering before the clock hit zero.
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    Yet, he instructed his defense to let the Giants score.

    Got it.

    SMH.

  25. laserw says: Sep 23, 2012 6:37 AM

    I can’t stand the Bucs, but in this case the sniveling NY Giant coach needs to be fined and sent packing – he is a continual whiner of the first order. His team has had preferential scheduling for years – when New Orleans had a home game during the hurricane season, the game was not played at a neutral field – it was shifted to NY. This wasn’t the first time that there has been such a preferential treatment for the NY Giants and Coughlin – that walking corpse is a disgusting man whose teams continue to self-destruct under him. If it weren’t for Eli Mae Manning’s performances in the playoffs, Coughlin would be sitting home on his 70 year old arse yelling at the tv every Sunday.

  26. eagles512 says: Sep 23, 2012 11:13 AM

    Coughlin is a whining baby

  27. longtimebucfan says: Sep 23, 2012 11:46 AM

    Thoroughly agree with the decision to rush the victory formation under the circumstances.
    However, the above mention of the fair catch hit, that is a Carolina Panther trick. Not used by us

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