i want to give this comment 1000 thumbs up.

there were just as many missed calls for the saints in that game….there is no conspiracy….you just think that because you lost. 5 turnovers lost you the game…..get over it.

Look, the Saints are probably guilty of a PFP system but the rest of the NFL’s investigation stinks from top to bottom. The supposed confessions from Williams and Hargrove were both disputed by the men who were supposed to have written them. That’s enough for me to cry shenanigans. As far as Loomis and Peyton, they are playing ball, that’s all. they let the NFL write whatever they wanted in their statements. They want their jobs back, they’re keeping quiet whether they are guilty or not. Don’t confuse that as an admission of guilt, just smart on their part.

One things for sure, we may not know the truth for a long time but I’m sure there will be many books written after these coaches/players careers and maybe then all the facts will be told.

Favre needs to return to whatever law school he graduated from and/or return his juris doctor degree.

Williams’ and Cerullo’s declarations regarding their personal observations of Vilma, Fujita and Smith making statements at a defensive team meeting before the January 2010 NFC Championship Games are most definitely not hearsay.

Now please feel free to give me thumbs down for point out a legal fact.

An entirely different question to be answered is whether Williams and/or Cerullo are lying. The lawyers will almost certainly get their chance to cross-examine the two after the inevitable appeal is filed.

The REAL question should be why the commish considered and acted on information that would be described as shaky, at best !!

Williams’ and Cerullo’s declarations regarding their personal observations of Vilma, Fujita and Smith making statements at a defensive team meeting before the January 2010 NFC Championship Games are most definitely not hearsay.

Now please feel free to give me thumbs down for point out a legal fact.

An entirely different question to be answered is whether Williams and/or Cerullo are lying. The lawyers will almost certainly get their chance to cross-examine the two after the inevitable appeal is filed.

I personally think the NFL generated all of this bounty stuff to distract from the officiating in that game, effectively handing the Saints a Uper Bowl at the expense of the Vikings as a way to capitalize on the Katrina disaster while it was still newsworthy. It was this game that had lots of fans around the country talking like the NFL was rigging games.

The bounty investigation has changed the conversation.

The court had nothing tying Vick to the dog fighting ring other than he owned the property. It was when they got his inner circle to roll over and become a witness against Vick that he went to jail.

To say eye witness testimony is hearsay is false. Hearsay would be Mr. X told me that Mr. Y said he put a bounty out on Favre. . . not I heard with my own ears Mr. Y say he was putting out a bounty. That is eye witness testimony which is very strong in any case.

Goodell is being exposed as the power mad egomaniac he is. He’s ruining the game and needs to be fired ASAP for the good of the game.

The appeal panel absolutely did not make a finding regarding the evidence. Be it a preponderance or any other standard. The panel simply said it was unclear whether or not the suspensions were related to salary cap violations. They had an issue with jurisdiction, not evidence.

Williams’ declaration merely reduced to writing what he previously told the league and the league disclosed the information prior to issuing the suspensions.

In regards to evidence itself, don’t forget about the statements of the Saints, Loomis and Payton acknowledging the NFL’s allegations were true. Or Hargroves’ statement that he was told to lie to league investigators by Williams and Vitt and that he complied.

Based on that, he is qualified to comment on here.

On the flip side, what I’d your coworker screwed your career with a false accusation?