Off-duty cops cause ruckus at Seahawks game

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At a time when NFL teams are using cops dressing as fans to catch other fans who are being abusive, three off-duty cops allegedly abused a fan and his family at a Seahawks game on Sunday.

According to Mike Carter of the Seattle Times, the officers were ejected from Sunday’s Cowboys-Seahawks game for being intoxicated, using foul language toward a fan and his family, and getting into an altercation with a Seattle police officer.

The fan, who asked to keep his name private, said that the officers profanely berated him in front of his 12-year-old son.  “They were younger than me, tougher than me, and drunk,” the fan said.

One of the officers — a female — told the fan he should “watch himself” and not get pulled over in Bellevue, where the three cops have jurisdiction.

The officers are under investigation.

75 responses to “Off-duty cops cause ruckus at Seahawks game

  1. “One of the officers — a female — told the fan he should “watch himself” and not get pulled over in Bellevue, where the three cops have jurisdiction.”

    That should be a firing offense.

  2. Sounds like something Rochester, NY cops would do. Funny how a solid percentage of oinkers are just low-lifes that could pass physicals seeking power.

  3. Freedom of speech…isn’t that what everybody yells while insulting the police. In this instance the shoe was on the other foot, they were off duty, no big deal.

  4. Absolutely despicable. And if the altercation would’ve became physical, in which they instigated, they would’ve tried to charge the civilian with felony assault on a police office. Pure bull you know what.

  5. What you learn growing up: always follow the rules or there are consequences.
    What you learn when are grown: follow the rules or there will be consequences, unless you’re a cop.

    This is why I never choose to go to a bar or event where I know there will be off duty cops or firemen.

  6. First of all does the League and do teams really need tp have “undercover” cops in the stands? The presence of having officers in uniforms keeps people in line at least here in Buffalo at Bills games. This story however is an all too familiar scene at pro games that I’ve seen numerous times as a season ticket holder since 1995. Way too many times police over step their authority and are on the border of assaulting fans that may need to be asked to leave or have to be removed. I know a fight is dangerous in the stands and there are a lot of intoxicated fans but that doesn’t give the cops or security the right to pummel or abuse fans. Many times it seems they are looking for a fight. I’ve seen this especially outside rhe stadium with the sheriffs and even the traffic control police. If you don’t want to deal with drunks or can’t handle them in a proper manner don’t take the OT and work the game. We don’t need the people who are supposes to be protecting us drunk or acting dangerously.

  7. I know plenty of good cops, and they’re like good players – they know how to conduct themselves both on duty and off duty. These three – not so much.

  8. That’s just sad. The Seahawks’ fans have a rep for being rabid, but not vicious. Well, until now, anyway.

    All three of those coppers should be punished; and I agree with the poster above who said that the female cop should be fired. That is, indeed, an act that demands termination of employment.

  9. Fire them all. A message needs to be sent to all cops everywhere that your job does not give make you better than other people and that using your position as a way to intimidate law-abiding citizens for fun is deplorable and intolerable.

    There’s a lot of good cops out there, but this feeling of “I have a badge so I can do whatever I want” seems to be becoming more and more widespread.

  10. rickc402 says:Sep 22, 2012 9:19 PM

    Freedom of speech…isn’t that what everybody yells while insulting the police. In this instance the shoe was on the other foot, they were off duty, no big deal.
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    Stick to your sandbox, because this is clearly too complicated for your mind.

    First there is a difference between calling someone an a-hole, and saying I am going to hurt you. The first is protected speech in most cases, the second is a criminal threat in most cases.

    That said, this was WAY beyond even a simple threat: This was a threat to use their police powers illegally.

  11. rickc402 says:
    Sep 22, 2012 9:19 PM
    Freedom of speech…isn’t that what everybody yells while insulting the police. In this instance the shoe was on the other foot, they were off duty, no big deal.
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    1) Freedom of Speech never, ever, protects anyone who makes threats against another person

    2) Every cop is taught from day one that when it comes to interacting with the public, they are NEVER off duty

    3) Isn’t it everyone’s hope that the people who make a living having authority over common citizens and carrying guns on their belts will be just a little less likely to be drunken louts?

  12. As a police officer I can honestly say there are more than a few power mad jerkoffs wearing badges all over America. Some municipalities don’t do adequate physch evals while some train their officers to act that way. The funny thing this holier than thou attitude is mostly seen in smaller departments, with officers who believe they are gods within their jurisdictions. They seem to forget we are here to serve and protect..

  13. People keep talking about how there’s “plenty” of good cops out there. Anecdotal evidence says otherwise. They’re almost universally mentally weak chumps on a power trip that have finally found a way to lord it over people.

    These three tools aren’t the exception; they’re the rule. Who among us doesn’t get nervous when there’s a cop behind us on the road, even if you’re doing the speed limit and obeying all traffic laws?

    Cops need to be reigned in considerably. They’re basically just glorified traffic patrollers, constantly hassling tax paying citizens just trying to get on with their lives. This story is par for the course.

  14. Cops are the largest gang in the country. Those cops should be fired and the union should shut-up.
    Hope Dad shows his son how to sue those lowlifes.
    PhoneCompany Field should ban alcohol and sell joints. Some normally civil people just can’t handle the microbrews. They need to chill and for the love of humanity Seattle, crack a happy smile every now and then.

  15. Hey mavajo,

    You sound like someone who has had a few run ins with the law and they didn’t go your way. Maybe you need to look at yourself for a while, because if you haven’t had any run-ins, it seems like you have a very curious view of law enforcement. I am in law enforcement. The vast majority of those in the profession are very professional and are in the profession to assist and serve others. I won’t be ignorant and say there are no police officers out there that abuse their position of authority, because there are. Hopefully they have short and unfulfilled careers. You, my friend, should consider this…who is going to help you when you and your family are in trouble? Who is going to assist you when you are alone on the side of the road? Who is going to patrol your neighborhood and try to make it safe for your children? That’s right, the same people you smear by saying that by “rule” they are abusive and unworthy of their professions. If that makes you feel good, to sit on some blog and throw misguided insults and accusation, then so be it. However, I have a feeling you probably have had some bad exchanges with the police because you are the problem. Maybe I’m wrong, but I doubt it.

  16. “One of the officers — a female — told the fan he should “watch himself” and not get pulled over in Bellevue, where the three cops have jurisdiction.”

    Sounds exactly like my ex-wife and her narcissist buddies! So pathetic that people in public trust positions so commonly abuse it. What’s even worse is those who are charged with supervising them are ignorant to their behavior.

  17. “You to would be angry if you got shot at for 30K a year”

    Always love it when they talk about how bad they have it. Go volunteer at a Vet Hospital or rehab clinic. See how fortunate you really are…

  18. @vaniner, that “you must be a criminal” argument is the same weak argument cops, and their supporters always use when people point out the OBVIOUS. I was pro-cop for most of my 50+ years, but after getting divorced, I had to move to the city, and there, I woke up.

    There, I saw just how little they do about crime when you are the victim. Cops are lazy, and hate paperwork, and frankly, lie to your face about why they can’t do their jobs. They will tell you that something is not against the law, or is a “civil matter” when it is not. I know this, because I asked the highest authority in my state for an opinion: The Attorney General.

    Combine that with the fact that we all can read, unlike your typical C-student cop. We see a constant barrage of stories like this, combined with LOADS of YouTube videos showing cops on ego trips, and worse, simply being criminals themselves. Ask Rodney King about that. Even if you have little interaction with cops, you can see their attitude in their body language even when they are just getting OVERPAID to sit by the side of the road.

    No, I have never been arrested, or even close, but I have lost all faith in cops over the years. Even your attitude in your post tells me that you are one of the bad cops.

  19. clavette – Any back-up to that?

    Legion on Boom – What do you do for a living? Do you ever put yourself in harm’s way for others? If your a vet, then I commend you. If you’re not, then find another way to voice your apparent displeasure with law enforcement.

    detroit20iron – Hmm. I think you should consider my previous post to mavajo. Any basis for that, or are you one of those sissies that goes to a protest with a mask on and spits on police officers so you can get a picture of them retaliating so you can sue them?

  20. “Don’t get pulled over in my jurisdiction because all I’m good for is sitting around handing out speeding tickets and treating motorists like hardened criminals”

    I think that’s what she was trying to say

  21. as a person involved in the law enforcement community, it’s funny reading some of the responses to this article. some make me upset, some make me laugh. one of them was that the dad is going to teach the son how to sue the police officers. for what? others downplaying the job that police officers do. everyone hates cops until they need them. my only question is why is this such a big deal that their profession happens to be a police officer? i could understand there being some uproar if they were on duty and did this, but let’s face it, being a police officer isn’t everything they are. for me, it’s an 8 hour interruption of my day. i’m not condoning the actions of these few, but not all cops are like this. like a bunch of posters have said, unfortunately the actions of a few ruin it for all.

  22. Kinda like when Adrian Peterson was charged with “resisting arrest,” even though he wasn’t under arrest.

    Some cops think they can get away with anything they want, and use the badge to shield their abusive behavior.

  23. @mavajo,

    I truly hope you never need the assistance of the police who you seem to have such distain for. I hope your neighborhood stays safe on it’s own, your kids avoid all the bad people out there, and your family is never in danger. After all the horrors most of my brother and sister officers see after serving for years, believe me, we all can’t wait for the day when all we do is write traffic tickets!

  24. Stop the sale of alcohol at NFL games!!!
    Pretty simple.
    Problem solved…
    If we smokers can’t smoke in the great outdoors, then drunks shouldn’t be allowed to drink in public.

  25. Morons exist in every profession , see the zebras in superbowl XL, MORONS!!!!! where there’s people there are MORONS.

  26. Fire ’em! They won’t be out of work for long. The TSA is always on the lookout for a few more power-hungry morons to abuse folks at the airport…

  27. Missing from this article is the initial story regarding these cops, which is lightly touched on the link.

    Before these “fans” got to the stadium, a female SPD officer witnessed one of them littering (allegedly a beer cup) and “asked” them to pick it up and dispose of it properly. Not unusual for SPD to give a little leeway for pre-functioning people around downtown before an event…just a little reminder now and then that we need to behave ourselves. I’ve had it happen to me, they’re cool if you’re cool.

    But these “fans” circled the SPD officer and got belligerent. And they flashed their badges. Another SPD officer witnessing called it in. Some supervisor showed up. They gave a LOT of leeway for this kind of behavior for other badges, apparently with the hope they would behave themselves for the rest of the day. We can be relatively certain they would get game updates from a jail cell if they didn’t have badges.

    But these idiots couldn’t even last until half-time before being escorted out of the stadium by security.

    Should they be fired? I can’t assume, they might actually be decent people and good cops when they’re sober. Should they be disciplined and made examples of? Absolutely.

  28. Notice how they were not arrested, yet anbsolutely anyone else in that position would be. Investigations always lead to a bunch of trivial punishment. Our whold judicial system is a massive conspiracy, and it revolved around freemasonry. its a real sad country to live in

  29. “The officers are under investigation”

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    Depending on what the Investigations prove or disprove, I fully agree that if the Civilians statements are true, that’s something an Officer should absolutely be terminated for.

    A Sworn Officer of the Law should never act so unprofessional, On or Off Duty.

  30. OINK OINK OINK.

    Stupid cops are managed by even Stupider managing Commanders.

    Good cops don’t exist anymore, just a bunch of power hungry traffic enforcement a-holes. If cops want a good impression with the community, these three need to be fired. Cops can’t run around doing dumb things without facing repercussions. But my guess is that their commanding officer will just defend them and give them a week of desk work.

  31. A smart person that writes for you recently asked this question, so I will too.

    Is pointing out the cop was female pertinent to this story?

  32. And you wonder why people dont trust the police? This is exactly the type of behavior that occurs when they think no one is watching. Bullying a guy with his 12 year old son? Real tough guys.

  33. mavajo says:
    Sep 22, 2012 9:52 PM
    People keep talking about how there’s “plenty” of good cops out there. Anecdotal evidence says otherwise. They’re almost universally mentally weak chumps on a power trip that have finally found a way to lord it over people.

    These three tools aren’t the exception; they’re the rule. Who among us doesn’t get nervous when there’s a cop behind us on the road, even if you’re doing the speed limit and obeying all traffic laws?

    Cops need to be reigned in considerably. They’re basically just glorified traffic patrollers, constantly hassling tax paying citizens just trying to get on with their lives. This story is par for the course.
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    May you fall down the stairs next time you’re arrested.

    Tough guy.

  34. Stereotypes don’t just get made up outta the blue… and these cops seem to be living up to the stereotype.

  35. Hmm, something tells me the “investigation” will fail to turn up enough evidence to pursue charges/discipline. I have respect for the members of law enforcement, except for D-Bags like this, if true. Every community seems to have the arrogant prick(s) on the force.

  36. I spent 30 years in public service (Firefighter). In those 30 years I never went to bars, concerts, football games, events of any kind and drank to excess or at all. To do so was inviting trouble and it wasnt worth it. I was taught that you are a Public Official 24/7/365. I wore my uniform with pride, and hoped the public felt the same about me. This behavior is inexcusable and should be delt with with extreme punishment. As I did, these individuals took an oath to uphold the law and abide by the Rules and Regulations of their job. This sickens me….

  37. Police should always be held to a higher standard. I’m not sure if they should be fired for not being able to handle their alcohol, but I say hit em where it hurts…. Strip them of their pensions and put them at a desk until they quit and face real life in the private sector.

  38. I truly appreciate the police and fire fighters.
    Its funny to hear i get shot at for 30 k a year.
    Try being in the military and getting shot at for far less than 30 k a year.
    Just saying.

  39. I am a police officer with 22 years on the job. I stopped going to sporting events (and concerts) because of idiots like these three. If this is a true account of what happened, all three should be fired, or suspended for a while. They give all of us good ones a bad name…

  40. There is no excuse for these police officers’ behavior. And the female officer should at least be suspended, if not fired for using her position of authority to threaten someone.
    Many officers do come across as jerks. However, I know some of you are basing your opinions on run-in’s with the law.
    You can talk as much smack as you want, but if someone is: breaking into your home; assaulting you; raping your wife…. you will call 911 and pray the police officers get there fast.
    There’s a reason alot of officers aren’t all warm and fuzzy. They dont get paid _ _ _ _ and many have to work second jobs. 99% of the time, they see people at their worst. They get cussed out; spit on; puked on. Oh, and sometimes people try to kill them. They deal with horrific car crashes; children who are abused worse than Mike Vick’s pit bulls; rape victims; and other horrors most of you can only imagine because you’ve seen it on “Law and Order” or “CSI.” Police officers see things that give them nightmares and haunt them the rest of their lives.
    Every time they make a traffic stop, they know that some low life may try to blow them away. Almost every decision they make has serious consequences…not just for themselves, but for their fellow officers, and the public.
    When a police officer says goodbye to their family and leaves for work, he/she knows there’s a chance that will be their last time to kiss their spouce and hug their children.
    As I said before, there’s no excuse for those officers’ behavior. But stop and try to imagine what it’s like to be a police officer, and maybe even have a little gratitude for them.

  41. Another lame argument is always, “if you don’t like it, why don’t you do the job?”

    Because you start as a nobody, and we are smart enough not to want to work for morons and jerks. If we could fire every one of you, disband all police unions, and make sure that you don’t come back, sure, this vet would gladly take the job. Even the military does not have as many guys with attitudes as the cops.

    Another major problem I have with cops and the court system: Cops lie in court all the time, but their word is taken as gospel (I am thinking about a local case that was in the news, but there have been tons of similar examples I have seen over the years). Who in their right mind would trust the word of a cop at this point? They band together, and protect each other..at any cost.

  42. ok just read the article from seattle news paper. Those cops would have been in trouble if that happened to me. I would not of put up with this crap especially if they insulted me in front of my kid. I would of taken matters into my own hands right or wrong.

  43. Police Officers are held to a higher standard. If this happened then they should he held responsible for their behavior. Especially the female officer. She threatened him by saying she would violate his constitutional rights if he was caught driving in her jurisdiction. Being off duty is no excuse. They represent the city and I am sure the citizens of that city would not accept that behavior. Not all police officers behave this way. So painting a broad brush isn’t fair either.

  44. This would be funny, if it were not tragic.

    From today’s news: “A Houston police officer shot and killed a one-armed, one-legged man in a wheelchair Saturday inside a group home after police say the double amputee threatened the officer and aggressively waved a metal object that turned out to be a pen.”

    Clearly, a real tough guy.

    Let’s also not forget the two recent shootings in NYC. Yeah right, I trust the cops.

  45. i agree that the vast majority of cops are good people. however i was pulled over by an ohio stae trooper, or should i say kid. he looked like he was fresh out of the academy. he kept me pulled over for 40 minutes and wanted to know my life story. where was i coming from. seeing my girlfriend. he wanted to my life story and hers etc. after everything he let me go with a warning for driving 2 m.p.h. over the speed limit on the interstate. wow, what a great guy!

  46. Police officers are correctly held to a higher standard, even while off duty. It’ll be interesting to see whether any or all of these three are punished now that this story has made national headlines. We need police officers in society, but with the higher threshold for public decency, I bet these cops get theirs.

  47. Nesuperfan makes a point thats very true. the founding fathers designed the justice system so thet the most powerfull lerson in the process was a citezen of our united states, YOU! THE JUROR. this has been a used by judges,lawyers,politicians and COPS by simply not telling the truth in a court if law. ITs true, YOU as the juror is made to believe that cops are more honest than your fellow citizen and thus the JUROR can be manipulated. WE THE PEOPLE must always be aware of those in positions to abuse. We just cant forget our rights as citizens of this united states of america.

  48. “who is going to help you when you and your family are in trouble? Who is going to assist you when you are alone on the side of the road? Who is going to patrol your neighborhood and try to make it safe for your children?”

    If I REALLY need a cop bad enough to call one chances are you will get there in time to ask questions about what happened and that’s it. People who wait on cops to do any of the things you mentioned are fools. Not because cops are unwilling, but because you usually can’t wait for them to be the ones to fix the situation. If I ever call a cop you’d better bring a coroner with you and I say that with full understanding that I might be the one getting carried away.

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