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	<title>Comments on: 12-yard error fuels Titans&#8217; game-winning drive</title>
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		<title>By: The Better Thing</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/24/12-yard-erro-fuels-titans-game-winning-drive/#comment-2020333</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Better Thing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 13:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The play in question here still cost the Titans 27 yards as there was not conclusive evidence the ball touched the ground.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The play in question here still cost the Titans 27 yards as there was not conclusive evidence the ball touched the ground.</p>
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		<title>By: klunge</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/24/12-yard-erro-fuels-titans-game-winning-drive/#comment-2017626</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[klunge]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 19:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, the regular refs did the same thing to the Lions last year in the San Francisco game, spotting the Niners 5 or 6 free yards on the game winning drive.
In a hard-fought game like that I&#039;m tempted to say it could have made the difference, but in this one the Lions blunders were WAY more egregious and costly than the refs mistakes. 

@ Jeffchadwick: I agree. Pettigrew costs us games, Hill is a very good QB and I&#039;m stunned he is not a starter somewhere.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, the regular refs did the same thing to the Lions last year in the San Francisco game, spotting the Niners 5 or 6 free yards on the game winning drive.<br />
In a hard-fought game like that I&#8217;m tempted to say it could have made the difference, but in this one the Lions blunders were WAY more egregious and costly than the refs mistakes. </p>
<p>@ Jeffchadwick: I agree. Pettigrew costs us games, Hill is a very good QB and I&#8217;m stunned he is not a starter somewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: yooperman</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/24/12-yard-erro-fuels-titans-game-winning-drive/#comment-2017486</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[yooperman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 19:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This game had so many bad calls I quit watching football when it ended. How come that fumble/incomplete pass wasn&#039;t even reviewed? It happened within the last 2 minutes, plus it was a possible turn over. That one is on the replay booth not the replacements.  From what I&#039;ve read today, I&#039;m glad I didn&#039;t watch the night game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This game had so many bad calls I quit watching football when it ended. How come that fumble/incomplete pass wasn&#8217;t even reviewed? It happened within the last 2 minutes, plus it was a possible turn over. That one is on the replay booth not the replacements.  From what I&#8217;ve read today, I&#8217;m glad I didn&#8217;t watch the night game.</p>
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		<title>By: jeffchadwick</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jeffchadwick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 18:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kind of unrelated, but can the Lions ditch stone hands Pettigrew already?  Nobody drops more catchable balls, and how does a 6&#039;7&quot; tight end get the ball ripped out of his arms by a midget cornerback?  

I will say this:  Shaun Hill is a better backup than half the current starters in the NFL.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kind of unrelated, but can the Lions ditch stone hands Pettigrew already?  Nobody drops more catchable balls, and how does a 6&#8217;7&#8243; tight end get the ball ripped out of his arms by a midget cornerback?  </p>
<p>I will say this:  Shaun Hill is a better backup than half the current starters in the NFL.</p>
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		<title>By: conormacleod</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[conormacleod]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 18:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Look, all we really know so far this season is that the Saints are a really bad team when they aren&#039;t allowed to cheat.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, all we really know so far this season is that the Saints are a really bad team when they aren&#8217;t allowed to cheat.</p>
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		<title>By: pftb1ows</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/24/12-yard-erro-fuels-titans-game-winning-drive/#comment-2017112</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pftb1ows]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 17:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Everyone on here complaining about replacement officials, which is the same thing everyone did regularly abou the regular officials. blah blah blah blah blah. Love that people want to blame the NFL, yet ignore the ridiculous demands of the officials. The officials are being greedy, plain and simple.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone on here complaining about replacement officials, which is the same thing everyone did regularly abou the regular officials. blah blah blah blah blah. Love that people want to blame the NFL, yet ignore the ridiculous demands of the officials. The officials are being greedy, plain and simple.</p>
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		<title>By: chibimike</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/24/12-yard-erro-fuels-titans-game-winning-drive/#comment-2017081</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chibimike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 17:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Lions coaching staff did catch the misplaced ball according to Schwartz, but in OT there are no challenges, so what could he do?  He said they were screaming at the refs, but they did nothing about it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Lions coaching staff did catch the misplaced ball according to Schwartz, but in OT there are no challenges, so what could he do?  He said they were screaming at the refs, but they did nothing about it.</p>
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		<title>By: chibimike</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chibimike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 17:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stevens did not catch the ball, from the end-zone shot, you could easily see the point of the ball hit the ground causing the ball to pop up in the air.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stevens did not catch the ball, from the end-zone shot, you could easily see the point of the ball hit the ground causing the ball to pop up in the air.</p>
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		<title>By: z0inks</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[z0inks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 16:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe it&#039;s just because teams get a different  crew of officials each week....but I swear, these officials are actually getting worse with experience.

As a Titans fan, I felt the officiating was reasonably good in the season opener.   

In week 2 (TEN @ SD)  it was pretty bad...but not to the point where it had a significant effect on the game.

But in yesterday&#039;s game (DET @ TEN), poor  officiating played a major role in the way the 4th quarter and overtime period unfolded.  It definitely influenced the length of the game, and could have easily changed the outcome, as well.

The best thing to be said for the officiating in that game was that they didn&#039;t play favorites;  it was  equally bad for both teams.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it&#8217;s just because teams get a different  crew of officials each week&#8230;.but I swear, these officials are actually getting worse with experience.</p>
<p>As a Titans fan, I felt the officiating was reasonably good in the season opener.   </p>
<p>In week 2 (TEN @ SD)  it was pretty bad&#8230;but not to the point where it had a significant effect on the game.</p>
<p>But in yesterday&#8217;s game (DET @ TEN), poor  officiating played a major role in the way the 4th quarter and overtime period unfolded.  It definitely influenced the length of the game, and could have easily changed the outcome, as well.</p>
<p>The best thing to be said for the officiating in that game was that they didn&#8217;t play favorites;  it was  equally bad for both teams.</p>
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		<title>By: gatorsandsteelerssuckbigblackclocks</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/24/12-yard-erro-fuels-titans-game-winning-drive/#comment-2016894</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gatorsandsteelerssuckbigblackclocks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 16:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sparty you are high as an effing kite if you think the lions should have won that game. The lions haven&#039;t beaten the titans since &#039;95! I was glad to see you guys finally start winning last year but maybe you should check that ego at the door til you actually do something in this league. You got worked yesterday.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sparty you are high as an effing kite if you think the lions should have won that game. The lions haven&#8217;t beaten the titans since &#8217;95! I was glad to see you guys finally start winning last year but maybe you should check that ego at the door til you actually do something in this league. You got worked yesterday.</p>
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		<title>By: scytherius</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[scytherius]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 16:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have been watching the NFL about 50 years now.  I never, ever thought I would say this.

The NFL is an absolute joke. a/k/a the Goodell legacy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been watching the NFL about 50 years now.  I never, ever thought I would say this.</p>
<p>The NFL is an absolute joke. a/k/a the Goodell legacy.</p>
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		<title>By: dctitanfan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dctitanfan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 16:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe this should be the new rule....If the video replay shows &quot;convincing&quot; evidence for overturning the call, but it&#039;s not &quot;conclusive&quot;, the refs should split the difference.  In this case, the Titans get 12 yards for Stevens&#039; catch instead of 24.....NFL rules are ridiculous these days.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe this should be the new rule&#8230;.If the video replay shows &#8220;convincing&#8221; evidence for overturning the call, but it&#8217;s not &#8220;conclusive&#8221;, the refs should split the difference.  In this case, the Titans get 12 yards for Stevens&#8217; catch instead of 24&#8230;..NFL rules are ridiculous these days.</p>
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		<title>By: chulobrown</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chulobrown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 15:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m a cowboys fan, even though I&#039;m off topic.  I have to make a comment concerning the ref throwing his hat in the end zone during the play that would&#039;ve most likely resulted in a touchdown.  Kevin olgetree slipped and fell because of that action and the ball sailed ver his head.  The bad part about it was that his defender was on the ground, there would&#039;ve been no one defending the catch.  Yet this official threw his hat in the end zone for no apparent reason smh]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a cowboys fan, even though I&#8217;m off topic.  I have to make a comment concerning the ref throwing his hat in the end zone during the play that would&#8217;ve most likely resulted in a touchdown.  Kevin olgetree slipped and fell because of that action and the ball sailed ver his head.  The bad part about it was that his defender was on the ground, there would&#8217;ve been no one defending the catch.  Yet this official threw his hat in the end zone for no apparent reason smh</p>
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		<title>By: jgedgar70</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jgedgar70]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 15:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m a Panther fan that had no rooting interest in this game. I was flipping around and missed some of the big plays and big blunders from this game. I hope it is one of the NFL Replay games on NFL Network this week. 

I think it&#039;s a little too dismissive to just say &quot;we&#039;ll never know&quot; about the 12-yard difference. Bironas was having a terrible day, having missed 2 other field goals. Now if David Aikers was the Titans kicker, I&#039;d easily say the 12 yards would have made no difference. But on this particular day, it may have. 

Of course, it became moot with that strange 4th down call by Schwartz. But that 12 yards may have made more of a difference than we want to believe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a Panther fan that had no rooting interest in this game. I was flipping around and missed some of the big plays and big blunders from this game. I hope it is one of the NFL Replay games on NFL Network this week. </p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s a little too dismissive to just say &#8220;we&#8217;ll never know&#8221; about the 12-yard difference. Bironas was having a terrible day, having missed 2 other field goals. Now if David Aikers was the Titans kicker, I&#8217;d easily say the 12 yards would have made no difference. But on this particular day, it may have. </p>
<p>Of course, it became moot with that strange 4th down call by Schwartz. But that 12 yards may have made more of a difference than we want to believe.</p>
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		<title>By: titansbro</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[titansbro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 15:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Both teams got screwed on this single play. Stevens DID catch the ball. I must&#039;ve watched that replay 10 times &amp; at no point does the ball touch the ground. That call should not have been reversed. With the penalty that would&#039;ve put the Titans at the Det 17. Instead, they wound up at the Det 29. So really, they lost 12 yards instead of gaining 12 yards. 

With all that said, marking from the wrong 44 is an awful mistake. I was flabbergasted when they overturned the catch &amp; I was even more confused when I saw the place the ball at the 29. But even if they had got that right, they got another first down after that &amp; I think Bironas makes the FG anyway, despite missing 2 fairly easy ones earlier in the game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both teams got screwed on this single play. Stevens DID catch the ball. I must&#8217;ve watched that replay 10 times &amp; at no point does the ball touch the ground. That call should not have been reversed. With the penalty that would&#8217;ve put the Titans at the Det 17. Instead, they wound up at the Det 29. So really, they lost 12 yards instead of gaining 12 yards. </p>
<p>With all that said, marking from the wrong 44 is an awful mistake. I was flabbergasted when they overturned the catch &amp; I was even more confused when I saw the place the ball at the 29. But even if they had got that right, they got another first down after that &amp; I think Bironas makes the FG anyway, despite missing 2 fairly easy ones earlier in the game.</p>
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		<title>By: shzastl</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[shzastl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 15:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[jjrs89 says:
Sep 24, 2012 10:29 AM
The catch shouldn’t have been overturned. Easily the worst mistake I saw on the officials behalf and honestly, where they spotted the ball basically corrected that mistake. I’d say it evened out
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Sometimes two wrongs do make a right! Actually since the TE caught it for 24 yds, with the 12 yard screw up the Titans still got cheated by 12 yds.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jjrs89 says:<br />
Sep 24, 2012 10:29 AM<br />
The catch shouldn’t have been overturned. Easily the worst mistake I saw on the officials behalf and honestly, where they spotted the ball basically corrected that mistake. I’d say it evened out<br />
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Sometimes two wrongs do make a right! Actually since the TE caught it for 24 yds, with the 12 yard screw up the Titans still got cheated by 12 yds.</p>
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		<title>By: broncosnative</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[broncosnative]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 15:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Should we just consider this a list season? These RRs are taking the momentum and fun away from football. How can a team run a no huddle when the refs reviewing every play and still get it wrong. Their slowing the game down and Goodell expect everybody to stay cool. I know the regular refs are asking for a lot but make something happened, meet in the middle, get them back on the field.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should we just consider this a list season? These RRs are taking the momentum and fun away from football. How can a team run a no huddle when the refs reviewing every play and still get it wrong. Their slowing the game down and Goodell expect everybody to stay cool. I know the regular refs are asking for a lot but make something happened, meet in the middle, get them back on the field.</p>
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		<title>By: bigperm33</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bigperm33]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 15:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is long past due someone makes Goodell stand up and publicly (not through some statement) and explain himself. Explain why he feels a tiny fraction of the NFL&#039;s profits is worth jeopardizing the integrity of the game? Why he feels the fans, the players, the coaches are not entitled to a better officiated game? Why he thinks it is good for the league for much of the monday morning quarterbacking to be centered not on the play, but on these officials? Goodell if you are going to do this, and continue to do this, you should be man enough to come forward and have to answer to what is clearly a very angry public.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is long past due someone makes Goodell stand up and publicly (not through some statement) and explain himself. Explain why he feels a tiny fraction of the NFL&#8217;s profits is worth jeopardizing the integrity of the game? Why he feels the fans, the players, the coaches are not entitled to a better officiated game? Why he thinks it is good for the league for much of the monday morning quarterbacking to be centered not on the play, but on these officials? Goodell if you are going to do this, and continue to do this, you should be man enough to come forward and have to answer to what is clearly a very angry public.</p>
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		<title>By: okieviacal</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[okieviacal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 15:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lats time I checked, my team gave up 21 straight points via 3 big plays. Yeah, we were stoked that the Lions miraculously got back in it, but this loss was more the result of some of the least disciplined football I&#039;ve ever watched, than the result of bad officiating.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lats time I checked, my team gave up 21 straight points via 3 big plays. Yeah, we were stoked that the Lions miraculously got back in it, but this loss was more the result of some of the least disciplined football I&#8217;ve ever watched, than the result of bad officiating.</p>
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		<title>By: FinFan68</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FinFan68]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 15:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[lionswow says:
Sep 24, 2012 10:28 AM
Michael says:Sep 24, 2012 10:03 AM

The Detroit coaching staff should have caught this at the time.

Cant challenge in overtime moron they did know. Apparently you dont know the rules of the game. You must be a replacement official yourself.
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The missed spots based on judgment calls of where the runner was down can be challenged but I don&#039;t think this is an instance where a coach&#039;s challenge (red flag) is necessary or even allowed.  It is an administrative call by the officials and the coach can simply point out the error and hope for the best. (is there a &quot;game under protest&quot; rule in the NFL similar to the MLB rule?)  The only instance I can think of where a coach had to challenge the official&#039;s incorrect spot was the Bills punt.  That challenge was not for the admin error of a few extra yards--it was for the error of calling the punt a touchback when it wasn&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lionswow says:<br />
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Michael says:Sep 24, 2012 10:03 AM</p>
<p>The Detroit coaching staff should have caught this at the time.</p>
<p>Cant challenge in overtime moron they did know. Apparently you dont know the rules of the game. You must be a replacement official yourself.<br />
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The missed spots based on judgment calls of where the runner was down can be challenged but I don&#8217;t think this is an instance where a coach&#8217;s challenge (red flag) is necessary or even allowed.  It is an administrative call by the officials and the coach can simply point out the error and hope for the best. (is there a &#8220;game under protest&#8221; rule in the NFL similar to the MLB rule?)  The only instance I can think of where a coach had to challenge the official&#8217;s incorrect spot was the Bills punt.  That challenge was not for the admin error of a few extra yards&#8211;it was for the error of calling the punt a touchback when it wasn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: spartyfi</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 15:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Head, I agree and yet disagree. I think it shouldn&#039;t have been overturned because it was just too tough to tell...however, on replay it looked like the tip hit as he rolled and the ball moved up in his arm at that point. I can see how they called it as they did, but I just don&#039;t think it was conclusive. The one they really missed it on was the Burleson fumble they called incomplete. Looked like he turned and took a step to me. 

I&#039;ll preface this with a big yes, I&#039;m a Lions fan. We should have won that game yesterday, not because of anything that happened in the game but because we&#039;re the better team, end of story. Play this game 100 times, the Lions win 99 of them. I don&#039;t mind losing because the Lions aren&#039;t good enough to be undefeated however some games are MUST wins because you should never lose them and this was one of them. 

Very frustrating game but the Titans earned the win and the Lions earned the loss. At least it was exciting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Head, I agree and yet disagree. I think it shouldn&#8217;t have been overturned because it was just too tough to tell&#8230;however, on replay it looked like the tip hit as he rolled and the ball moved up in his arm at that point. I can see how they called it as they did, but I just don&#8217;t think it was conclusive. The one they really missed it on was the Burleson fumble they called incomplete. Looked like he turned and took a step to me. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll preface this with a big yes, I&#8217;m a Lions fan. We should have won that game yesterday, not because of anything that happened in the game but because we&#8217;re the better team, end of story. Play this game 100 times, the Lions win 99 of them. I don&#8217;t mind losing because the Lions aren&#8217;t good enough to be undefeated however some games are MUST wins because you should never lose them and this was one of them. </p>
<p>Very frustrating game but the Titans earned the win and the Lions earned the loss. At least it was exciting.</p>
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		<title>By: damnskins703</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 14:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No matter who is wearing the stripes on the field their will be mistakes, but with the REAL officials their will be less]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No matter who is wearing the stripes on the field their will be mistakes, but with the REAL officials their will be less</p>
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		<title>By: boyd54</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 14:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok, the Stevens catch was rightly overturned, just like the Megatron one earlier.  But what about the third down catch where Stevens foot was out of bounds AND short of the sticks but they got it.  AND the kickoff after the first Lions field goal that was dropped as the runner was starting to return it...it sure looked like he broke the plane and therefore should have been a safety.  All in all a very exciting game.  But the Fox broadcast of this game along with the officiated were horrible.  Who is Dwight Bentley and is he related to the Lions CB Bill Bentley?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, the Stevens catch was rightly overturned, just like the Megatron one earlier.  But what about the third down catch where Stevens foot was out of bounds AND short of the sticks but they got it.  AND the kickoff after the first Lions field goal that was dropped as the runner was starting to return it&#8230;it sure looked like he broke the plane and therefore should have been a safety.  All in all a very exciting game.  But the Fox broadcast of this game along with the officiated were horrible.  Who is Dwight Bentley and is he related to the Lions CB Bill Bentley?</p>
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		<title>By: orangeclipper</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 14:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Crappy officiating, OK.
Belacheck (sp) and Fox had misplaced anger.
Both were losing games at the time.
Manning was picked off 3 times, for instance
Screw the whole NFL.  All greedy scum bags, terrible owners and Goodell is a moron]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crappy officiating, OK.<br />
Belacheck (sp) and Fox had misplaced anger.<br />
Both were losing games at the time.<br />
Manning was picked off 3 times, for instance<br />
Screw the whole NFL.  All greedy scum bags, terrible owners and Goodell is a moron</p>
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		<title>By: daysend564</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 14:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They are further away from a deal with the refs than they were at the beginning of the season.  Now the old refs want to be paid for &quot;lost time&quot; in addition to the massive new deal they were seeking.  

Yeah, they make mistakes.  But it isn&#039;t like, you know, they can&#039;t tell the difference between the words &quot;heads&quot; and &quot;tails&quot; in overtime on Thanksgiving.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are further away from a deal with the refs than they were at the beginning of the season.  Now the old refs want to be paid for &#8220;lost time&#8221; in addition to the massive new deal they were seeking.  </p>
<p>Yeah, they make mistakes.  But it isn&#8217;t like, you know, they can&#8217;t tell the difference between the words &#8220;heads&#8221; and &#8220;tails&#8221; in overtime on Thanksgiving.</p>
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		<title>By: dawgsafety13</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 14:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Lions did not deserve to win this game. I hate that a bad call was a contributing factor but, the onus is on the Lions. They cannot continue to play with poor execution for 45 minutes and expect to escape with a win at the very end. 

Hopefully this helps to right the ship. We need Delmas back terribly.

Go Lions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Lions did not deserve to win this game. I hate that a bad call was a contributing factor but, the onus is on the Lions. They cannot continue to play with poor execution for 45 minutes and expect to escape with a win at the very end. </p>
<p>Hopefully this helps to right the ship. We need Delmas back terribly.</p>
<p>Go Lions.</p>
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		<title>By: deadeye</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 14:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Blown calls affecting games is nothing new.  If avoiding those was an actual criteria for officials to keep their jobs, the locked out clowns would never come back.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blown calls affecting games is nothing new.  If avoiding those was an actual criteria for officials to keep their jobs, the locked out clowns would never come back.</p>
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		<title>By: gatorsandsteelerssuckbigblackclocks</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 14:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shame on you for making this game about the refs and not giving credit to the titans, that game was awesome. Im not a titans fan but the refs calls are being blown totally out of proportion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shame on you for making this game about the refs and not giving credit to the titans, that game was awesome. Im not a titans fan but the refs calls are being blown totally out of proportion.</p>
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		<title>By: minnyjoe</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 14:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[uptocj says: 
Sep 24, 2012 10:36 AM 


Thanks! I did not understand this either.  Either this story is really bad or the officials gave the ball to Detroit after a personal foul on Detroit which in either case is awful!   

I did not see any stories about SF getting to call for a challenge after being out of time-outs.  Not to mention the play that they challenged Toby Gerhardt was stopped and being carried backward when the ball was stripped, clearly forward progress had been stopped and the play should have been over.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>uptocj says:<br />
Sep 24, 2012 10:36 AM </p>
<p>Thanks! I did not understand this either.  Either this story is really bad or the officials gave the ball to Detroit after a personal foul on Detroit which in either case is awful!   </p>
<p>I did not see any stories about SF getting to call for a challenge after being out of time-outs.  Not to mention the play that they challenged Toby Gerhardt was stopped and being carried backward when the ball was stripped, clearly forward progress had been stopped and the play should have been over.</p>
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		<title>By: headonaswivel</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 14:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Naturally, this article fails to mention that Stevens did catch the ball and the play being overturned was , by far, the biggest error of the play.  Going to the ground Stevens had the ball pinned to his body and it never did touch the ground.  Even if it did it was not moving and he had full control so it should have been a catch.  As we all know the ball can touch the ground now, but it cannot be moving at the time.  At the very minimum there was no conclusive evidence to overturn the catch, even both announcers were shocked.  So the Titans got screwed out of 24 yards and Locker a 400 yard + passing day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Naturally, this article fails to mention that Stevens did catch the ball and the play being overturned was , by far, the biggest error of the play.  Going to the ground Stevens had the ball pinned to his body and it never did touch the ground.  Even if it did it was not moving and he had full control so it should have been a catch.  As we all know the ball can touch the ground now, but it cannot be moving at the time.  At the very minimum there was no conclusive evidence to overturn the catch, even both announcers were shocked.  So the Titans got screwed out of 24 yards and Locker a 400 yard + passing day.</p>
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