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NFL reviewing Belichick, Shanahan and Harbaugh incidents with officials

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The NFL officially announced the fines given to Broncos coach John Fox and defensive coordinator Jack Del Rio for berating officials during Week Two on Monday afternoon.

There could be more fines coming in the near future. The release about the fines for Fox and Del Rio included a note about the notable run-ins between coaches and officials from this week’s game.

“We are reviewing incidents from yesterday’s games involving the game officials and Baltimore Ravens head coach John Harbaugh, New England Patriots head coach Bill Belichick and Washington Redskins offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan.”

Belichick grabbed an official as the official made his way off the field following the Ravens’ game-winning field goal on Sunday night. Belichick said Monday that he only wanted to speak to the official and that he “in no way tried to abuse or be disrespectful.”

There were plenty of shots of Harbaugh energetically giving his opinion to officials on Sunday night. The most notable instance came in the fourth quarter when Harbaugh came onto the field and appeared to dispute an illegal contact penalty called on cornerback Lardarius Webb. Harbaugh The Ravens bench drew a flag for unsportsmanlike conduct despite protests that he was merely trying to call a timeout.

Shanahan issued an apology for a profane airing of grievances with an official in the wake of Sunday’s loss to the Bengals. It would be surprising if he and the other two coaches don’t hear from the league in light of the penalties handed to the two coaches in Denver.

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66 Responses to “NFL reviewing Belichick, Shanahan and Harbaugh incidents with officials”
  1. patswillreign says: Sep 24, 2012 3:55 PM

    With all this money from the fines that are being collected from coaches “disrespecting” the replacement refs…you would think Goodell would have enough collected to pay the real refs what they want.

  2. magnuminsp says: Sep 24, 2012 3:59 PM

    It looks like another 50K will be added to the pot.

  3. 49ersgiants4life says: Sep 24, 2012 3:59 PM

    Maybe they should review how badly the refs officiated the game and do something about it instead of fining everyone else trying to deflect the real problem Roger Goodel is the worst thing to ever happen to football

  4. gallaghedj311 says: Sep 24, 2012 4:00 PM

    it’s got nothing to do with paying the refs man….

  5. jdbar50 says: Sep 24, 2012 4:00 PM

    I am tired of coaches thinking they are more important than the game, time to shut up and coach!!!!!!

  6. theTruth says: Sep 24, 2012 4:00 PM

    Just for the record, Harbaugh did not get the penalty it was a bench penalty because Suggs was berating an official on the sidelines. He called him a Pu**y and got the flag.

  7. randygnyc says: Sep 24, 2012 4:01 PM

    Harbaugh clearly cheated 2X and BB assaulted a man who was just trying to do his job. Both should get vacation time.

  8. bobothegreatest says: Sep 24, 2012 4:02 PM

    It looks like the NFL has generated a new way to fund their inept officiating crew. Who knew it could be so cheap?

    Bobo

  9. ravenator says: Sep 24, 2012 4:02 PM

    Belichick should be suspended oh and the field goal was good but please keep sending the excuses Patriot fans

  10. jkcranshaw says: Sep 24, 2012 4:04 PM

    I totally forgot about the BS explanation Harbaugh tried to give about calling for a time out the second he saw the flag. I do feel for him though, the game was brutal to watch, but the play he was arguing was a penalty, even though the refs called the wrong penalty (Defensive Holding vs. the Pass Interference it should have been).

    What I don’t understand is how there is no responsibility or accountability on the refs to discuss whether or not a scoring play (with no time left) was reviewed or not. I understand that the guys who ref’d games in the Lingere League and Junior College may have never been in a rematch of the previous years Conference Championship that will likely decide playoff seeding, but to sprint off of the field as soon as the play was over is just another reason to question how competent they are.

  11. hawkforlife says: Sep 24, 2012 4:04 PM

    What a crock. NFL stands for New Fines League. From players to coaches to owners this has got to stop. It’s arbitrary at best and ruining the game. $20,000 for this, $15,000 for this. Half these fines are for hits no one could possibly avoid given the speed of the game.

    Fox was a jerk ranting over a call he had wrong. Does being a jerk deserve a fine? Belichick had a right to get an answer, what’s he supposed to do?

    The only fine I would give out in these cases was to the 49’ers Harbaugh for blatantly lying to cover up his tirade and intimidation. At least he could man up like he expects his players to.

  12. aetherealdirges says: Sep 24, 2012 4:07 PM

    I think it’s ridiculous that the OTHER Harbaugh isn’t being held responsible for what he pulled in the Minnesota game. Sure, he was subtler, but c’mon.

  13. vex24 says: Sep 24, 2012 4:07 PM

    The damage that the NFL (Goodell and Co) is doing is not fully being assessed. I’ve noticed that many people will watch and endure the games that involve their favorite teams (as normal); however. when watching other games, many turn off/change channel when the replacement Refs sloow the tempo or make horrific decisions. This has to effect advertisement commercials.
    I find it amazing that no news has reported the effect on Division 2 & 3 level College football since the best Refs at that level have abandoned those games. Who has replaced those Refs? What problems are occurring at that level?
    Once this issue is resolved between the NFL & PRO-Refs, it will be interesting to see the effect that it has on the (scab) replacement refs future in collegiate and pro football. I seriously doubt that they will have jobs back at the Division 2 & 3 level, at least not mid-season. I sense that the replacement Refs at the Division 2 & 3 levels have a better time adjusting from High School, than from Division 2 & 3 to NFL Pro. I, also doubt that any (scab) replacement Ref will be allowed into the NFL Ref Union once this is all settled.

  14. kattykathy says: Sep 24, 2012 4:08 PM

    I wonder if Belicheat or Shanahan would have had the nerve to grab or chase after Mr. Biceps Hochuli?

    My guess is that neither would have, especially Belicheat. I for one would have loved to see Hochuli turn around and drop the cheater

  15. knucklebucket says: Sep 24, 2012 4:14 PM

    Cue the circus music. This is really getting out of hand.
    There were times in that game last night when fights broke out and it was clear the refs had zero control. How far is this going to go? Is a star player going to have to get hurt in one of these fights for things to change?

    Goodell can fine coaches all he wants, it still doesn’t change the fact that these fines are brought on by frustration over refs who clearly are not up to the task. The game is too fast for them and the mistakes are piling up.

  16. thegrey7 says: Sep 24, 2012 4:16 PM

    What about the other Harbaugh? He should be reviewed for berating the refs into giving him five time-outs and two challanges that they didn’t deserve.

  17. weepingjebus says: Sep 24, 2012 4:17 PM

    Makes for great want ads. “Come be a replacement referee in the NFL! Realize your life’s dream of having your intelligence and basic competence questioned by future HOF coaches and heckled by hundreds of thousands of fans! Enter and leave the stadium wearing a hood like an 11th century executioner just to keep your family safe! The NFL is an equal opportunity employer.”

  18. nobleking09 says: Sep 24, 2012 4:17 PM

    Jim Harbaugh should be fined too. For a coach that prides himself on his ability, there is no way he didn’t know the rules for challenges and timeouts. He completely took advantage of the replacement refs that situation.

  19. patriots123456 says: Sep 24, 2012 4:17 PM

    The common denominator here is that in almost every game the officiating is terrible.

    They IMO should make one more offer to the regular officials and tell them this is your final offer, You have one week to accept it or reject it. If you reject it you’re history, you will never be employed in this league again.

    The calls last night in the Ravens Patriots game was absolutely pathetic on both sides.

  20. urfinished says: Sep 24, 2012 4:18 PM

    Shanahan shouldve been yelling…but at his Defensive coordinator. Overrated at every stop of his career…Mr Jim Haslett. He stinks.
    Go back and look how the defenses he coached did before and after he was there.
    Overrated, horrible hire.

  21. lurch61 says: Sep 24, 2012 4:20 PM

    aetherealdirges says:
    Sep 24, 2012 4:07 PM
    I think it’s ridiculous that the OTHER Harbaugh isn’t being held responsible for what he pulled in the Minnesota game. Sure, he was subtler, but c’mon
    ————————————————-
    Just how did “Jim” Harbaugh disrespect the refs in any way? He did not put a hand on them or get in the way. He gave his interpretation of a timeout/flag rule and if it was wrong then the REFS should have known it and put him back in his place. They didn’t! Just HOW is Jim responsibile for their lack of knowledge and action??

  22. jkcranshaw says: Sep 24, 2012 4:25 PM

    KattyKathy… The issue is no one would have had to chase Ed. He would have pushed the button on his mic and announced to everyone in earshot exactly why they didn’t replay the field goal and the history behind why it isn’t reviewable.

    In this case the ref sprinted off of the field as soon as the officials under the uprights lifted their hands without an explanation as to what was happening. I find it hard to believe that prior to last night many people understood that under those circumstances that a field goal (scoring play) can’t be reviewed.

  23. jibberator says: Sep 24, 2012 4:25 PM

    How about the league getting fined for disrespecting the sport, the fans and the players — putting their health and well being in the hands of these guys…

  24. refshavegottogo says: Sep 24, 2012 4:26 PM

    What about Jim for knowingly hoodwinking the refs into 2 challenges with NO TOs left. He knew exactly what he was doing.

    The Officials have got to go.

  25. brianjoates says: Sep 24, 2012 4:27 PM

    Can’t wait until the Roger as commish era is over. He has tried to make himself the face of the league, even casual fans know who he is, nobody cares about him, but he stands up and constantly draws attention to himself.

    Fans need a new commish that they feel they can respect, even though it doesn’t matter in the least bit. Just so sick of Roger this and Roger that. He is actually turning fairweather fans away because they hear second hand how he is ruining the game, so why tune in when you are not getting the best product for your time and money.

  26. voight444 says: Sep 24, 2012 4:30 PM

    If Harbaugh wanted to call a timeout, why didn’t he just give the signal. lame excuse no one is buying.

  27. jibberator says: Sep 24, 2012 4:30 PM

    aetherealdirges says: Sep 24, 2012 4:07 PM

    I think it’s ridiculous that the OTHER Harbaugh isn’t being held responsible for what he pulled in the Minnesota game. Sure, he was subtler, but c’mon.

    Jim did everyone a favor. He asked the ref specifically, “I want to challenge that play, but I just used my last timeout, how does that work?” You all know the rest. These refs obviously don’t know the rules — you should thank the other Harbaugh for further exposing their incompetence. Should he be fined because the refs don’t know what they are doing half the time?

  28. wte1 says: Sep 24, 2012 4:32 PM

    Wide right.

  29. packhawk04 says: Sep 24, 2012 4:32 PM

    Kudos to the refs who threw that 15 yd flag on harbaugh. The other harbaugh should have about 15 of those by now. And the ref lockout isnt about money.

  30. 7ransponder says: Sep 24, 2012 4:33 PM

    The other Harbaugh needs to be reviewed as well, it’s obvious those extra timeouts during the SF v MIN game were influenced by him.

  31. imaduffer says: Sep 24, 2012 4:34 PM

    Let me review this article and I’ll get back to you in about ten minutes with my decision. In the mean time, I’m off to the refrigerator to get me a snack.

  32. realfann says: Sep 24, 2012 4:34 PM

    What about the full frontal Belichick cussing at the officials that Sunday night football caught full face???

    It started “Jesus Christ, what the f….” as Belichick started toward the officials.

    Or was that more Belichick “in no way trying to abuse or be disrespectful.”

    If player did what B did, the player would be suspended for multiple games without pay.

    Step up Goodell.

  33. ham1 says: Sep 24, 2012 4:36 PM

    The world we live in, a jerk does a really poor job and he loses his job. In the world of the NFL a ref does a piss poor job and he should get respect.
    Anybody says otherwise, or gets upset about how poor a job has been presented, gets a huge fine.

    I am getting sick of the NFL. Too much BS just like politics. Loads of lies and misdirection.

    When they start evaluating and fining poor performance from refs, maybe you would see the players and coaches not react as poorly (as if they just got robbed).

  34. dickmac says: Sep 24, 2012 4:38 PM

    “patriots123456 says:Sep 24, 2012 4:17 PM

    They IMO should make one more offer to the regular officials and tell them this is your final offer, You have one week to accept it or reject it. If you reject it you’re history, you will never be employed in this league again.”

    So, if the “real” officials turn down the NFL’s ultimatum, the world is stuck with the wannabes?? Sounds like something Willard Romney would say:)

  35. melikefootball says: Sep 24, 2012 4:49 PM

    After seeing the game I can see Belichick chasing the refs about review of kick, isn’t all scoring suppose tto be reviewed? As far as both Hairbaughs they should be delt with by the way they handled their sidelines and their actions Sunday.

  36. 6thsense79 says: Sep 24, 2012 4:56 PM

    I wouldn’t be surprised if the league tries fining the fans for voicing their disgust. Every stadium should do like Baltimore until this gets resolved.

  37. ignath says: Sep 24, 2012 5:10 PM

    thegrey7 says:
    Sep 24, 2012 4:16 PM
    What about the other Harbaugh? He should be reviewed for berating the refs into giving him five time-outs and two challanges that they didn’t deserve.

    This. Jim Harbaugh blatantly cheated on Sunday and should be punished for bullying the referee into giving him 2 free, and unwarranted, time outs AND challenges

  38. mgavin78 says: Sep 24, 2012 5:15 PM

    All these coaches lost Sunday. Lol

  39. lovefootball4life says: Sep 24, 2012 5:18 PM

    melikefootball says: Sep 24, 2012 4:49 PM

    After seeing the game I can see Belichick chasing the refs about review of kick, isn’t all scoring suppose tto be reviewed? As far as both Hairbaughs they should be delt with by the way they handled their sidelines and their actions Sunday.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Field goals are not reviewable and as was said repeatedly after the field goal it is considered good if it passes directly above the upright.

    My sense it that coaches are used to a certain amount of explanation they get from refs but are not getting it from these guys. The most damaging comments about the refs came from Chris and Al doing the play-by-play. They didn’t hold back at that point. I think Al’s words were “this is getting ridiculous”. When these guys are doing it on nationally televised games it has a huge negative impact.

  40. pr0jecktpat says: Sep 24, 2012 5:25 PM

    Belichick shouldn’t have grabbed the ref, but then again it didn’t look malicious. I understand his frustration because they didn’t even review the play which I thought all scoring plays were reviewed now not just TDs. Everyone just stormed the field and he didn’t get his fair chance to talk to the refs about what at the time looked very close to not being a good field goal. Again though it just boils down to Goodell and the owners being cheapskates and not paying the real refs who don’t always get everything right, but are astronomically better than these guys they have out there now.

    Also as a Redskins fan I’ve always disliked Haslett and I think most people feel the same way, even players. Just promote Raheem already, we know he was brought here to replace him eventually. You can’t just stick with one defensive scheme all day if it isn’t even working from the start. Haslett either doesn’t know how to adapt or refuses to adapt.

  41. commonsensedude says: Sep 24, 2012 5:33 PM

    For every bad call or complete loss of control of a game that occurs this season, Goodell should be fined $50,000 per incident for the damage that is being done to the NFL brand. Then, take that money and put it into a collection that will go toward paying the real refs what they want in order to resolve the situation.

    Of course, Goodell would probably have all of his salary wiped out by the fines, which would cause him to have to leave the NFL and get another job. In other words, this approach would solve everybody’s problems!

  42. commonsensedude says: Sep 24, 2012 5:35 PM

    “Jim Harbaugh blatantly cheated on Sunday and should be punished for bullying the referee into giving him 2 free, and unwarranted, time outs AND challenges”

    If a person can be ‘bullied’ into giving a team free timeouts and challenges, that person is not a professional referee. What the heck!?!?

  43. bduncanscott says: Sep 24, 2012 5:52 PM

    Officials need to get FINED!! Players and coaches get fined for some deserving but many insignificant things while absolutely NOTHING happens to a ref who makes a horrific call many time costing teams a game or worse a playoff game etc etc
    There has to be penalties for refs who make blatantly bad calls on teams effecting the outcome of the game to hold them accountable just as Goodell pretends he’s doing by fining players coaches and the like.

  44. burnzido says: Sep 24, 2012 5:56 PM

    I’ve decided that I’m just not gonna watch the games until the real officials are back. If 1/4 of all NFL fans would join me next Sunday in not watching we would see the real officials out there faster than you could say “Suck One Goodell”. There is not enough room in my heart for all of the hate and anger I have toward Roger Goodell.

  45. phillyforlife says: Sep 24, 2012 5:59 PM

    bduncanscott says: Sep 24, 2012 5:52 PM

    Officials need to get FINED!! Players and coaches get fined for some deserving but many insignificant things while absolutely NOTHING happens to a ref who makes a horrific call many time costing teams a game or worse a playoff game etc etc
    There has to be penalties for refs who make blatantly bad calls on teams effecting the outcome of the game to hold them accountable just as Goodell pretends he’s doing by fining players coaches and the like.
    —————————————————–

    The NFL wants that and the NFLRA does not, that’s part of the problem.

  46. charger383 says: Sep 24, 2012 6:06 PM

    Need the old refs and a new commisioner

  47. phillyforlife says: Sep 24, 2012 6:08 PM

    burnzido says: Sep 24, 2012 5:56 PM

    I’ve decided that I’m just not gonna watch the games until the real officials are back. If 1/4 of all NFL fans would join me next Sunday in not watching we would see the real officials out there faster than you could say “Suck One Goodell”. There is not enough room in my heart for all of the hate and anger I have toward Roger Goodell.
    ——————————————————

    Wow I could see you being that mad if your life was really effected by Goodell but come on man its a game. And your life was effected by him stop betting on losers. Also my good friend its not stop watching because they already have their tv contract money. You need to say just go away. You crack me up LMAO.

  48. eagleswin says: Sep 24, 2012 6:20 PM

    Half the people here don’t understand that the field goal was good and not reviewable. The other half want the refs flogged and removed because they hold the new refs to higher standards than the old refs.

    Ed Hochuli himself directly cost a team a game and there was no outcry. Do any of you know what that the refs are not only fighting over money (They are already the highest paid officials on a per game basis in any sport), but also accountability. Refs screwed up multiple times each last year. There was no screaming for their dismissal. There was actually nothing the NFL could do no matter how bad the refs were, it was in their CBA. If a ref screwed up a game in week 1 he was put out again in week 2. Screw up in Week 2, trotted on out in week 3. Rinse, Repeat.

    You want the refs to be accountable? The NFL is trying but many fans are to shortsighted. They are the same people who will be screaming that old ref be replaced when they screw up and at that point it will be to late because for the NFL, right now, to get the old refs back would be to make them NFL refs for life with no accountability.

  49. thatswhatimsayin says: Sep 24, 2012 6:26 PM

    Hey Vikings fans, CHILL OUT! wasn’t it enough redemption seeing Jim Harbaugh’s almost explode that whole game? That was awesome. what more do you want? He was desperate. leave it alone.

  50. tothefellowshipofthemiserable says: Sep 24, 2012 6:27 PM

    I think that replacement referee in that Raven’s game was Clint Eastwood ! Should stick to acting.

  51. elitekane says: Sep 24, 2012 6:28 PM

    Roger is clearly not fit to be in his position. These replacement refs are ruining the game of football. It’s obvious they both make mistakes, but cmon the real refs know the difference between a slap on the back and a hold.

  52. cursedvikingfan says: Sep 24, 2012 6:46 PM

    @thatswhatimsayin, Where in the user name or context of the posts about Jim Harbaugh, do you come away with the fact these posters are all purely Vikings fans? Truth is, the last 4 minutes of that game were a disgrace and I am pretty sure Harbaugh knows the rules enough, that he should be ashamed of himself.

    It could of gotten more out of hand, but thankfully the Vikings defense finally showed up for once. I think any fan base would have the right to be livid for that debacle, win or lose.

  53. vavikingfan says: Sep 24, 2012 7:08 PM

    As a Vikings fan, I used to have a lot of respect for Jim Harbaugh but after watching his behavior and demeanor I was disgusted. I recognize that he was being true to his personality…..having said that, I don’t feel he should be punished for intimidating the referee.

    Clearly, none of them knew the rules and they would not listen to the Vikings coaches.

    What is so sad about this is a billion plus business is fighting over what is no more than pocket change .

  54. lovefootball4life says: Sep 24, 2012 7:26 PM

    @eagleswin says: Sep 24, 2012 6:20 PM

    I completely agree with you but I think the frustration we’re all having is the existing refs are screwing up somewhere between 5-10 times more per game than the normal guys. At this point we’d take pros who hold themselves to a higher standard than guys just trying to fill the gap.

    I thought there was some accountability with old ref crews…something like the crew with the least mistakes gets a bonus or the best games or something like that. Pretty sure the crew with the least mistakes was selected for the Super Bowl. That has to be motivation.

  55. eagleswin says: Sep 24, 2012 7:44 PM

    lovefootball4life says:
    Sep 24, 2012 7:26 PM

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    I believe you correct that officials with the least mistakes are the ones selected for the playoffs so that is motivation but it doesn’t detract from my point that there is no punishment during the regular season. They have just enough crews to work the games. There is no spare crew to replace a crew that had a horrible game.

    That is 2 things the NFL wants to change. Having the extra crews to use if needed and the ability to actually replace refs that aren’t performing.

    Bill Leavy blew several major calls in superbowl XL yet suffered not a single consequence for blowing it on the NFL’s biggest stage. Ed Hochuli has blown games with no consequence.

    The biggest issue right now is that the NFLRA is holding the most qualified replacement hostage (the higher level NCAA refs). The real outrage should be that the NFLRA is holding the refs most qualified to replace them hostage.

  56. mancave001 says: Sep 24, 2012 7:44 PM

    He should absolutely be suspended AND fined.

  57. thatswhatimsayin says: Sep 24, 2012 8:06 PM

    @cursedvikingfan True but you’re missing my point. Jim Harbaugh is psycho and it was fun watching him rip his hair out all game. I agree he knows the rules, He played that card and still lost.

  58. darkglobe1 says: Sep 24, 2012 8:08 PM

    I see the tide is turning in favor of the real refs…

  59. realfann says: Sep 24, 2012 8:28 PM

    All you viking fans are very conveniently forgetting that the ball was WAS fumbled and WAS recovered by a 49er.

    The regular refs would have seen that and awarded the ball to the Niners without any need for TO’s and challenges.

  60. mjkelly77 says: Sep 24, 2012 8:48 PM

    Both Hairbough brothers are complaining crybabies.

  61. artiesliver says: Sep 24, 2012 9:34 PM

    F U you stupid bitch!

  62. yajas says: Sep 24, 2012 9:58 PM

    The games are getting hard to watch not because the officiating is so bad but because of the incessant whining about the officiating by players, coaches, and the talking heads on tv. And then when Goodell tries to keep things under control by exercising the only authority he has over these babies by fining them, everyone whines some more.

    The solution is not to just give in to the locked out refs. The owners that Goodell works for didn’t get to where they’re at by giving in every time things got difficult. Since the locked out refs won’t come back for what the owners believe is a fair deal, the owners are doing the best they can with what they have.

    Everyone else needs to suck it up and act like the professionals they’re paid to be.

  63. ytownjoe says: Sep 24, 2012 9:59 PM

    Fine Roger Goodell.

    Better yet, fire Roger Goodell.

    Bring back the real refs.

  64. easyeddie says: Sep 24, 2012 10:11 PM

    Are the replacement refs inferior to the regulars? Of course.
    But comments like the ones saying the replacement refs “lack of control” is at fault for supposedly grown men (players and coaches) acting like fourth graders with a substitute teacher in the classroom is plain stupid. There is no excuse for them acting like children.

  65. sixjak says: Sep 24, 2012 10:29 PM

    Show the footage where Jim berated the refs. He showed the league just how full of crap they are by having YMCA refs oficiate NFL games. He didn’t bully them. He’s on a different level and most would be more than just okay with Jim if he was coaching their favorite team. He’s not getting a fine just because you love to hate him. Some of you would only be happy if the NFL instituted capital punishment.

  66. frank booth says: Sep 24, 2012 10:38 PM

    ignath says:
    Sep 24, 2012 5:10 PM
    thegrey7 says:
    Sep 24, 2012 4:16 PM
    What about the other Harbaugh? He should be reviewed for berating the refs into giving him five time-outs and two challanges that they didn’t deserve.

    This. Jim Harbaugh blatantly cheated on Sunday and should be punished for bullying the referee into giving him 2 free, and unwarranted, time outs AND challenges
    ====================================

    You can blame Harbaugh for berating the refs, but not for causing them to give time outs and challenges. That’s just the refs ineptitude. It’s their responsibility to know the rules and grant time outs and challenges, regardless of what any coach or player tells them.

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