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Reid on QB change: “We’ll evaluate it as we go”

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The Eagles can’t protect Michael Vick at the moment, and he hasn’t looked great despite their 2-1 record.

But the lack of endorsement he just got at Andy Reid’s press conference was still surprising.

Reid was asked moments ago if he’d consider making a change at quarterback after Sunday’s loss at Arizona.

Right now, we’re with Michael and that’s what we’re doing,” Reid said. “We’ll evaluate it as we go.”

Reid said he wouldn’t necessarily give rookie backup Nick Foles more snaps in practice because Vick’s been taking so many hits.

Vick was sacked five times Sunday, nine on the year, and has taken far more hard shots this season.

He also has twice as many interceptions (6) as touchdowns (3), and his 66.2 rating ranks 29th in the league, right below Josh Freeman and right ahead of Brandon Weeden.

The Eagles have a $16.5 million decision to make on Vick after this season, and if there are already doubts, it’s not a good sign that they’ll pay up for a guy they might not be able to keep on his feet.

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  1. 513guy says: Sep 24, 2012 12:55 PM

    Awkward.

  2. wludford says: Sep 24, 2012 12:58 PM

    This needs to be the last year of the Vick and Reid show in Philadelphia. It’s a tired and sad act. They need to start looking now for a new coach and QB.

  3. cooklynn17 says: Sep 24, 2012 12:58 PM

    You better start evaluating it now, because you might not be around much longer to worry about evaluating anything.

    Jeffery Lurie is on line 1.

  4. illcomm says: Sep 24, 2012 1:00 PM

    let’s evaluate the coach first. run a balanced offense n think run first. the rest will fall in place. Reid….were not playing maddened on xbox. use your best player mccoy n runrunrun. then pass

  5. vikingdoode says: Sep 24, 2012 1:00 PM

    looked avg at best….as you get older you get slower your suppose to get smarter ….not in this case

  6. shamburg says: Sep 24, 2012 1:02 PM

    Good. He needs to be benched. His discision making is horrendous. He hangs onto the ball too long (and doesn’t protect it while he’s hodling it) and then eyes his receivers the entire way down the field before throwing it into tight coverage. Its ugly and frustrating to watch him throw games away with this much tallent on the roster.

  7. cletusvandam says: Sep 24, 2012 1:04 PM

    So the Eagles are just now learning what everyone else knew 10 years ago, Vick is not a good QB. Good Job Philly!

  8. skoobyfl says: Sep 24, 2012 1:06 PM

    Way to show support to your players.

  9. bluebongzilla says: Sep 24, 2012 1:08 PM

    They’re not gonna bench the 100 million dollar man. Reid and Vick deserve each other.

  10. ericn42000 says: Sep 24, 2012 1:11 PM

    Philly is doing just fine keep them both#cowboysnation

  11. mungman69 says: Sep 24, 2012 1:12 PM

    Same Reid, same Vick. The Eagles aren’t going anywhere. See ya, Andy.

  12. eagleswin says: Sep 24, 2012 1:14 PM

    If anyone had evaluated Vick’s decision making process they’d know that he’s easily confused by coverages, has no anticipation of a receiver about to become open, and just generally holds onto the ball to long. He can hit the open receiver 40 yards away but don’t ask him to dump it down to the hot read.

    Someone needs to also tell him that he can’t outrun defenders the way he could 10 or even 5 years ago. Running 10 yards straight back to avoid a sack is now just 10 more yards the eagles lose. He’s not going to outrun the defense like he could when he entered the league.

  13. idahophinfan says: Sep 24, 2012 1:14 PM

    Everyone knows Vick is a coach killer

  14. pjcostello says: Sep 24, 2012 1:18 PM

    I see this as a rare, if untimely, moment of honesty from Reid. The truth is at this rate, Vick’s gonna get knocked out of a game before he gets benched, so the point will be moot. Still, as bad as the offensive line play was in Arizona, Vick held the ball WAY too long, and always has; he doesn’t throw in rhythm, and doesn’t have a sense of timing. He throws to receivers when he SEES them open, rather than knowing where they will be, what coverage the defense is using, and dictating the pace of the offense that way. No rookie could do worse in there than Vick has.

  15. markcycy says: Sep 24, 2012 1:19 PM

    let the gruden rumors start to swirl

  16. atomicpunk says: Sep 24, 2012 1:21 PM

    Funny how Kolb outplayed Vick ! the AZ defense kept hitting Vick and when he had time to throw there was no one open. The AZ defense is very good with depth at every position, well coached and they don’t take the bad penalties anymore. Maybe more credit should be given to the defense and less blame on Vick?

  17. herwordskillyou says: Sep 24, 2012 1:23 PM

    Vick looks so indecisive because he has no many people in his head. Everyone stuck their two cents in and told him to change the way he played the game…change what made him a successful, winning quarterback to begin with. Now he has no idea what he’s doing anymore. He’s scared to tuck and run because he wants to show everyone he’s a pocket passer. He’s scared to scramble because he knows he can’t afford to get hurt. He’s lost in this system because he’s trying to be something he’s not.

  18. hehateme1 says: Sep 24, 2012 1:27 PM

    Guess its time to bring back a man that already knows the offense…Im talking about cha boii number 5. Mcnabb.

  19. grandpoopah says: Sep 24, 2012 1:28 PM

    I hope the Birds cut him and he signs with Cleveland next year. He belongs in the Dawg Pound.

  20. richndc says: Sep 24, 2012 1:29 PM

    Where are all the “Mike Vick is the best QB in the NFL” people? The ones who call us ‘haters’ (btw, I do hate him)? I thought he was a top 5 QB any day of the week? So I keep hearin. I have just never seen any evidence of it. The Eagles should not have won either of those first two games. I bet they were feeling pretty good pre-game and now feel like they walked into a BUZZSAW. Good job Cards for showing some people how football is actually supposed to be played.

  21. kspells12345 says: Sep 24, 2012 1:31 PM

    Vikings Doode above had it right.

    Most athletes/people in general in their 30s seem to realize that Father Time is setting in and slowing them down – hence they ADAPT and change.

    Mike Vick doesn’t seem to realize or acknowledge this – still seems to think his athletic ability can make up for his lack of football knowledge – poor football decisions and poor accuracy, which causes him to make stupid plays or hold onto the ball too long in order to make a play – he hasn’t realized the basic concept of taking what the defense gives you yet, which is sad.

    Mike, its not 2002 anymore. The Michael Vick experience ended years ago.

  22. truths4all says: Sep 24, 2012 1:32 PM

    I personally look forward to the Nick Foles circus as he has the mobility of a tree stump. If Vick gets hit 3 to 4 times a game, Foles (behind that lousy Offensive Line) is gonna get buried with 8 to t0 hits and a whole bunch of hurries.

    At that time, the Philly fan’s dream circus of Nick Foles will be over as they will suddenly cry for Vick to be back in the lineup.

    How does Philly Eagles finishing as the division bottom dweller sound?

  23. phillyphannn83 says: Sep 24, 2012 1:32 PM

    I don’t care who you put under center, NO ONE can be successful when you throw the ball 27 times in the first half and only run it 3!!!!

  24. gallaghedj311 says: Sep 24, 2012 1:32 PM

    Yeah I’ll keep Reid until another better coach (who hasn’t been caught cheating) becomes available. because the truth is, there isn’t anyone better.

    There’s a whole group of people I used to hear talk over the years that have gone missing. These folks always said that Reid:

    a) can’t evaluate the WR position. Which couldn’t be farther from the truth. ACTUALLY, McNabb was average and Andy coached him up to the point where Washington actually thought he still had something in the tank. Actually the WRs were always fine. It was 5 who was reluctant to throw the ball.

    b) Can’t draft. I read an article last year that showed stats from 2002 to 2011 that showed that only 2 organizations drafted more all-pros than Reid. So yeah ok maybe he sucks at drafting players. But there are only 2 (NE & Pitt) teams that have done it better

    c) made a giant mistake anointing Juan Castillo the D-Coordinator. 2 of the 6 TDs allowed by the Eagles were scored by the opposing defense. That means that the defense allowed 4 TDs through 3 games despite 11-12 turnovers? Yeah Castillo was a mistake. Uh huh.

    d) Where are all the people who SCREAMED for McNabb to stay in Philly and have Andy Reid fired because McNabb would win a Super Bowl with another head coach. You remember that Easter Sunday when Shanahan traded for him? Washington did what that season? Finish dead last in the NFC east again? Ok that’s what I thought.

    Most days I’m embarrassed by my fellow Eagles fans. Today is definitely one of those days. I mean c’mon man! The Eagles lost their first game in their last 12! Only fools call for the head of a coach whose 11 game winning streak has been snapped….

  25. rugbyisbetter says: Sep 24, 2012 1:33 PM

    OK, Andy Reid’s offense has the potential to be a very good, top flight offense. However it is a very pass intensive attack requiring a ‘Top Notch’ quarterback. One that can read defenses, call correct audibles, pull the trigger before a sack, throw the ball away when the play has gone sour..

    If the Eagles had Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Drew Brees (etc), then yes they would have an awesome offense… (argument could be made that a great QB makes a great coach, but see Drew Brees and the 0-3 Saints)…

    I just find it hilarious that the Eagles traded Kolb and he just torched them. I guess Cardinal fans have really silenced their Kolb griefs.

  26. westclaims says: Sep 24, 2012 1:34 PM

    I thought Reid was a genius, a master?. Which QB would you have wanted on your team yesterday?

  27. amaf21 says: Sep 24, 2012 1:41 PM

    Enjoy your last season as HC Andy!

  28. brianjoates says: Sep 24, 2012 1:46 PM

    Doubt Philly will pay him 16.5 next season, maybe a contract restructure, but it might just be time to move on, especially with another round of highly touted QB’s entering the draft this year.

    If let go, where would his landing spot be? AFC West teams seem to have their QB’s.Oakland? Is Vick really an upgrade from Palmer at this point? NFC West, Arizona will get one of these young guys in the draft. AFC East , Jets ? NFC East opponents are set. AFC and NFC North are set. AFC South, Jags? Are they going to give up on Blaine already, maybe. NFC South, Bucs? Would Vick be a Schiano guy?

    Vick as a backup QB in the league? Only Steve Ross would sign him thinking he could help move tickets with zero regard for what it does to the young QB they are grooming.

  29. largent80 says: Sep 24, 2012 1:47 PM

    Seems pretty obvious that a change is coming.

    Standard coachspeak when any member of the media tries to stir up a QB controversy that does not exist is as follows:

    “Player X is our starting QB. End of story.”

    Here’s what you don’t see: words like ‘right now’ or ‘evaluate’.

    Philly has its bye week in Week 7. I think they muddle through the next 3 games, hope they’re no worse than 3-3 after six games, and make the change.

  30. theawesomersfranchise says: Sep 24, 2012 1:59 PM

    People who cry for Reid’s job. Just don’t cry if you go into a decade long spin trying to rebuild.

  31. bigbwoy000 says: Sep 24, 2012 2:00 PM

    Hard to feel sorry for this guy. I know this post will get a load of thumbs down but Vick is getting what Vick deserves.

    His weekly pounding is inspiring to people that understand what kind of an individual takes already suffering, bleeding & crying animals & tortures them over & over with his own bare hands until dead for some sort of sick, ghoulish inner satisfaction.

    The guy has never had back to back winning seasons, he’s had 2 coaches fired with his inept play & at this stage of his career turns the ball over much more than any veteran QB should.

    Misery has a way of coming back around to individuals that have unmercifully dished it out. Too bad for Mike Vick.

  32. bearsstillsuckk says: Sep 24, 2012 2:01 PM

    The Eagles will never be a Super Bowl team with Vick at QB.

    Make the change, and concentrate on developing a pocket style passer that Reid can mold into a winner.

  33. torontofalcon says: Sep 24, 2012 2:02 PM

    Bad oline vick cant read blitzs, andy wont run, and marty keeps calling deep passes. That is a recipe for disaster

  34. chrisvegas says: Sep 24, 2012 2:05 PM

    Vick isn’t a good enough QB to constantly be put in 3rd and longs. The only way the Eagles will be successful with Vick as QB is if they run the ball 60% of the time. You want 3rd and short and you want the defense to not know whether or not the play is a run play or a pass play. Vick can’t pick up the blitz so you have to make sure you are in 3rd and shorts. Why Andy Reid refuses to run the ball more with a guy like McCoy is beyond me. The Eagles passed 25 times in the first half and only ran the ball 5 times. Teams know the play is a pass and it is to predictable. This strategy just doesn’t work and Reid is so stubborn that he may lose his job because he refuses to adjust.

  35. tjules21 says: Sep 24, 2012 2:05 PM

    gallaghedj311 says:
    Sep 24, 2012 1:32 PM
    Yeah I’ll keep Reid until another better coach (who hasn’t been caught cheating) becomes available. because the truth is, there isn’t anyone better.

    There’s a whole group of people I used to hear talk over the years that have gone missing. These folks always said that Reid:

    a) can’t evaluate the WR position. Which couldn’t be farther from the truth. ACTUALLY, McNabb was average and Andy coached him up to the point where Washington actually thought he still had something in the tank. Actually the WRs were always fine. It was 5 who was reluctant to throw the ball.

    b) Can’t draft. I read an article last year that showed stats from 2002 to 2011 that showed that only 2 organizations drafted more all-pros than Reid. So yeah ok maybe he sucks at drafting players. But there are only 2 (NE & Pitt) teams that have done it better

    c) made a giant mistake anointing Juan Castillo the D-Coordinator. 2 of the 6 TDs allowed by the Eagles were scored by the opposing defense. That means that the defense allowed 4 TDs through 3 games despite 11-12 turnovers? Yeah Castillo was a mistake. Uh huh.

    d) Where are all the people who SCREAMED for McNabb to stay in Philly and have Andy Reid fired because McNabb would win a Super Bowl with another head coach. You remember that Easter Sunday when Shanahan traded for him? Washington did what that season? Finish dead last in the NFC east again? Ok that’s what I thought.

    Most days I’m embarrassed by my fellow Eagles fans. Today is definitely one of those days. I mean c’mon man! The Eagles lost their first game in their last 12! Only fools call for the head of a coach whose 11 game winning streak has been snapped….

    ————————————————–

    How are you doing that math? They were 4-8 last year after losing to the Seahawks and then won 4 in a row to end the year. They started this year 2-0. That’s a 6 game winning streak. Am I missing something?

  36. thepalehorse775 says: Sep 24, 2012 2:07 PM

    It’s time to get “You know who” off the tractor!

  37. tigrrrr says: Sep 24, 2012 2:07 PM

    lol… vick!
    Paybacks hurt huh ?

  38. golonger says: Sep 24, 2012 2:09 PM

    Why is it that people who make millions of dollars a year cannot see what is plainly obvious. Vick is a bad QB. Always HAS been a bad QB. Always WILL be a bad QB. Get rid of him. Unbelieveable!

  39. bleedgreen says: Sep 24, 2012 2:09 PM

    herwordskillyou says: Sep 24, 2012 1:23 PM

    Vick looks so indecisive because he has no many people in his head. Everyone stuck their two cents in and told him to change the way he played the game…change what made him a successful, winning quarterback to begin with. Now he has no idea what he’s doing anymore. He’s scared to tuck and run because he wants to show everyone he’s a pocket passer. He’s scared to scramble because he knows he can’t afford to get hurt. He’s lost in this system because he’s trying to be something he’s not.

    ————————-

    I’m glad someone else sees this. He can still outrun people, but his issue is he hesitates too long to start running now. Reid and Mornhinweg have beat it into his head GO THROUGH YOUR READS. THEN GO THROUGH THEM AGAIN AND AGAIN!

    Instead of taking the 7 yards he has open up the gut, he stands there to wait for someone to get open… and gets drilled. By that time, its too late to escape the rush.

    Take the yards the defense gives you. If you can get 3, get 3. 3 is better than an incompletion or a sack, or whats more common these days is a fumble or an INT from forcing it. Just take your yards.

  40. janvanflac says: Sep 24, 2012 2:10 PM

    “I personally look forward to the Nick Foles circus as he has the mobility of a tree stump. If Vick gets hit 3 to 4 times a game, Foles (behind that lousy Offensive Line) is gonna get buried with 8 to t0 hits and a whole bunch of hurries.”

    1) Wrong. Foles anticipates pressure and moves just enough to avoid it while keeping his eyes downfield. Granted it was preseason but he showed that he is pretty good. Honestly he has the potential to be a player in the mold of Eli….as much as I hate the Giants that is not a bad thing. Similar build, similar arm strength.

    2) I highly doubt they would dial up so many slow developing passes for Foles. And he’s probably already better at pre-snap recognition and going to a hot read than Vick

    3) There is no way Vick lasts more than 2-3 more games at this rate. I can’t imagine what he felt like this morning.

  41. east96st says: Sep 24, 2012 2:14 PM

    It pains me to say this as a Giants fan, but they are 2-1. The nonsense as to whether they “deserve” to be 0-3 is just that – nonsense. A win counts the same whether it’s by one point or by 77. They are tied for the lead of the NFC East and have PLENTY of time to fix their mistakes. Anyone pronouncing this team dead on arrival is either brand new to the sport or guilty of wishful thinking. They have the Giants, the Steelers, and the Lions before their bye. Philly absolutely has a chance to win all three, since all three of those opponents can shoot themselves in their foot just as often as the Eagles do. If they should lose all three, then let the screams for Andy’s and Vick’s head begin. Until then, I wouldn’t sleep on this team.

  42. janvanflac says: Sep 24, 2012 2:15 PM

    …and another thing….I’ve always been a supporter of Andy….still think on balance he’s a great coach. But that play calling was beyond horrendous. What the hell were they thinking?

  43. autoriot says: Sep 24, 2012 2:17 PM

    Just do it already. This team needs a good shake up. I have been an Eagles fan since 1990 and I love my team, more than any of you will ever know or understand. I have been the biggest supporter of Andy Reid throughout his tenure, gave Donovan McNabb the benefit of the doubt, tried to like Kolb, and even appreciated the talent that Vick eluded to back in 2010 and was really excited about the team.

    Fast forward to today and I just feel beaten. I am really just worn out of the same game plan week in and week out. I am tired of the same answers in press conferences and a lack of passion from the coaches and players. I am done. I will root for this team like I do every year, with my heart on my sleeve, and pray that they don’t let me down again. If they do, I really hope that Lurie follows through and shakes this team up. Fifteen years of the same coaching style that has yielded no rewards has got to go.

  44. geniusfan says: Sep 24, 2012 2:23 PM

    As an Eagles fan I’m sick of this crap. Vick needs to either step up his play big time or be sat down. Reid needs to be fired after this year he’s not going to fix this team.

    The Eagles need fresh ideas in their organization. They have the talent to be great but the coaching and underwhelming quarterback play hold them back.

    How bad is the Eagles offensive line in reality? Is Vick just making them look bad by staring down receivers and sitting back in the pocket for far too long and getting clobbered? How about Reid, he needs to call quick strike passes to protect Vick and the offense. I’d say he should run the ball but the walrus will never revert to that successful tactic.

  45. EJ says: Sep 24, 2012 2:28 PM

    Vick will never get any better than he has been so far this season, so If Reid is looking for better numbers, he’d be best to change QB’s. The thing is, stats are just stats, the only stat that really counts is in the win-loss column. Vick is not going to look good at many different statistic’s other than running yards, but I believe he still gives the Eagles the best chance to win.

  46. achap39 says: Sep 24, 2012 2:40 PM

    At least he’s ahead of Weeden. Once that scrub goes above you, it’s time to pack it in.

  47. cowboyhater says: Sep 24, 2012 2:43 PM

    John Gruden can’t wait for that phone call.

  48. fordmandalay says: Sep 24, 2012 2:54 PM

    It’s still hard to believe that just 2 short years ago so many sportswriters and fans anointed Vick as ‘the greatest player in NFL history’, ‘unstoppable’, and that he had changed the QB position forever.

  49. 6thsense79 says: Sep 24, 2012 2:56 PM

    The way everyone is talking I had to recheck the Eagles’ record to see if they are 0-3. Sure enough they’re 2-1 and tied for first in their division. Can you guys wait till the halfway point before you try firing your coach and cutting your QB? Too much to ask?

  50. davefromacquisitions says: Sep 24, 2012 2:57 PM

    Not an Eagles’ fan, but they are 2-1, so maybe everyone should calm down a bit with the hysteria.

  51. Mr. Wright 212 says: Sep 24, 2012 2:59 PM

    Vick may end up on IR after next Sunday.

  52. Mr. Wright 212 says: Sep 24, 2012 2:59 PM

    On another note, who REALLY got “fleeced” in that trade?

  53. n0hopeleft says: Sep 24, 2012 3:05 PM

    This is such a joke.

    The Eagles front office is preying Vick either gets hurt, or another team calls for his services, and they can unload him.

    Who takes accountability for making this moron your QB, and paying him 100m?
    He’s won you how many playoff games?
    He’s missed how many games?

    Hey may be sorry for his crimes, but he is still the same guy (a very crappy QB and leader of men).

  54. myeaglescantwin says: Sep 24, 2012 3:06 PM

    How can any eagles fan back Andy right now??

    This man is perhaps the worst play caller in the league. With a damaged offensive line that can’t pass protect right now, & having one of the best RBs in the league,, Andy still decided to throw the rock 75% of the plays. . .

    His stubborness and inability to evolve or progress as a coach is keeping this team from realizing the full potential of this roster.

    Andy routinely lets himself be outcoached by young inexperienced coaches around the league… His coaching style is so predictable, the defense might as well be in the huddle..

    After 12 years it is more then evident that anyd refuses to change his philosophy or even so much as adjust a game plan to suit the personel he has at his disposal…

    This dink dunk gimmic offense has been exposed, the offensive line has been exposed. Out inability to change on the fly is why Larry Fitz ran through our entire defense yesterday…

    Ignorance & arrognace.. how can you repeat the same mistakes for a decade without having your aptitude questioned??

    We need a coach with the sand & courage to make tough calls on the field.. Andy still can’t manage his timeouts.

    I would keep Mornhenweg, promote Bowles and hire a defensive coach that will be able to inspire this squad and maximize their potential..

    hit the road andy, make sure there is room for Juan in that clown car.

  55. kevpft says: Sep 24, 2012 3:11 PM

    Cardinals, 49ers, Falcons, Lions, Giants, Cowboys, Bears, Packers, Vikings, Seahawks, Redskins.

    These are all the teams, in no particular order, that look better than the Eagles this year. (Bucs, Rams, and Panthers – maybe Saints – are close behind.)

    Eagles are going to have to be better than several of those teams just to make the playoffs, let alone succeed in them. At this point, hard to see that happening.

    Definition of insanity comes to mind. Philly has enough promising young talent that the best thing they can do is change everything across the top, QB included. Get a solid QB and new coach, struggle for a year or two, and then be a solid power for years to come.

    Ditch the Vick karmic train wreck and get on with planning for the future. That guy’s never winning the big one.

  56. ace8842 says: Sep 24, 2012 3:26 PM

    1/2 of being a QB is reading defenses pre-snap. I am convinced Vick has no idea what he is looking at. He’s isn’t durable and when teams have blitzed him, he has been awful. Baltimore didn’t blitz and paid the price, but just like a couple years ago when they beat the Giants on a DeSean Jackson punt return, Vick follows up his great game with a clunker. He never will have the consistency to lead this team far. Foles time is getting close – and remember, I don’t even think Foles was sacked once in preseason…which says something.

  57. Mr. Wright 212 says: Sep 24, 2012 3:29 PM

    They’re beyond lucky to be 2-1. Nine turnovers — a few more yesterday — you are not going to continue to win those games. then you can’t protect your QB. THEN you refuse to run the ball with McCoy. And your secondary is a sieve. Cruz may completely embarrass Asomugha next Sunday night. Everyone knows the Eagles should very well be 0-3, going to 0-4 next week. That 2-1 is flimsy, and they’re an 8-8 at best (for the guy who said he needed to check the schedule to make sure they were actually 2-1 and not 0-3).

  58. cereal blogger says: Sep 24, 2012 3:32 PM

    Vick is a good QB, if he played smart he’d be great.

  59. bigbluefan1 says: Sep 24, 2012 3:35 PM

    I think the big problem is your QB is just not smart enough to keep up with the ever changing game.

    He is at a point in life where he has to do more with his head then his legs and he does not have the smarts to do it.

  60. gallaghedj311 says: Sep 24, 2012 3:36 PM

    Yes you are missing 4 preseason games…..

  61. seabreezes51 says: Sep 24, 2012 3:41 PM

    Get a Head Coach that actually values an O line, doesn’t just talk about it. Until that happens, my Eagles will suck.

  62. bluebongzilla says: Sep 24, 2012 4:32 PM

    “Most days I’m embarrassed by my fellow Eagles fans.”

    Aren’t you the guy that was counting preseason wins?

  63. ordinaryday6 says: Sep 24, 2012 5:42 PM

    I was going they’d put foles in in the 2nd half, like the mcnabb benching, but the game was completely out of hand. Foles played well in preseason, and I want to see what we have in regular season. I don’t think Vick will be here next year, but I hope Reid is. Most important thing us coaching consistency, especially side our d is getting good, and Castillo is our guy. For the record, I’ve never subscribed to the theory that Reid should be gone, despite some bone headed decisions. I do think Vick needs to go. He doesn’t have much football awareness and he doesn’t protect the football.

  64. ordinaryday6 says: Sep 24, 2012 5:43 PM

    They bed to ruin the ball more

  65. ordinaryday6 says: Sep 24, 2012 5:45 PM

    Vicks gonna get hurt anyway. By the 5th game probably. I was surprised he made it out of this one.

  66. Mr. Wright 212 says: Sep 24, 2012 5:59 PM

    More like the 4th game.

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