he was not suspended for blatantly cheating fo Gods sake, what makes anyone think they are going to suspend him for this.

These 4-hour games have become a joke. I don’t know how long this strike goes on but I’m done with the NFL until the regular refs come back. The better team did not win last night.

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Last week actually. They played Arizona. You can find the box score somewhere, I’m sure.

Here the NFL seems to be going in the direction of NBA, and that’s a VERY bad thing for the sport.

Sorry, but that doesn’t make sense….if the poles went up further, the ball would bounce off the upright, and the field goal wouldn’t have been good.

I believe that the rule is, if ANY part of the ball is within where the poles would be if they were extended upward, then the FG is good.

Obviously there is no way to judge what kind of bounce would have happened if the poles were extended, which is why if any part of the ball is inside.

That being said, I don’t care how bad a game was called, there is NO excuse for putting your hands on an official, PERIOD, END OF STORY.

Belichick is not exactly a big dude. Say someone like King Kong Suh were to grab a ref like that? What would happen to him?

Any coach that would be in this situation, I would say the same thing, NO LESS than 4 game suspension, and NO LESS than $1 million fine.

Then, the team needs to be fined another $1 million.

Things are getting out of hand, and it is going quick. If ANY Ref becomes intimidated, he is going to start calling to favor that team. Once that happens, then there is no chance that a game could be called fair.

The NFL needs to step up RIGHT NOW, TODAY, and show that abusing ANY ref, real or replacement IS NOT GOING TO BE TOLERATED UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE!!!!

If players and coaches see that kind of fine and suspension, then they are going to stay within the limit because they know they would be screwed if they didn’t.

bullying the refs is putting a lot more pressure and no doubt making the calls even worse….

Mara, Rooney and Kraft run the league- the commish is their puppet and every other team/owner can go tuck themselves.

The irony is that you show from this statement alone you don’t know anything. Spearing is leading with the head – not hitting the other person in the head. If the initial contact is in the head, but by say a shoulder, it is not spearing. Spearing is when you lead with your head and make contact with any part of the body.

Thanks for showing me further than you know nothing about football and have never played the game in your life. Go back to your couch.

Really? Did you see the same hit as me? The point of contact is shoulder/forearms to chest. Don’t lecture me about football. I played D1 college ball and played in semi-pro leagues for 2 years.

The point of contact was the chest, with his shoulder. Watch the video above. His shoulder pad does drift up after the initial contact and glance his head, but it is incidental. I am all for punishments for head hunting hits where they launch with their helmets, but that was not what happened here. This was a textbook shoulder to chest hit.

Maybe you should leave the football to people with experience and stick to your couch, where your tub butt has always been.

Missed 15 yarder on Reed against Edleman.

Phantom Offensive PI against Edleman.

No Call push off by Lloyd that extended a Pats scoring drive.

Wrong call on the late defensive holding the overturned the int… should have actually been a spot of the foul PI.

Phantom defensive holding against McCourty that negated a late 3 and out by the Ravens.

How ever… the Pats lost that game in the secondary by letting Flaco off with only 1 Int, when there should have been 3 if McCourty can hang on, and possibly a 4th if Arington didn’t trip over the white lines in the field.

The field goal was good. It was a fine call. What was silly was the defensive pass interference call earlier in the drive that turned a failed 3rd down conversion into a 1st down. That pretty much gave the ravens the win.

Second, on that final drive a receiver stepped out of bounds and was the first to touch it and make the catch afterward. It moved so fast that it wasn’t shown but I’m pretty sure that’s what B was upset about and it saved the game for the Ravens.

Find the film and review it before you get all high and mighty judge and jury.

REALLY?

Guys like you who don’t know the rules and are homers should not comment on things they don’t know about.

The rules say that a defender CAN NOT launch himself head first at a receiver (which Reed obviously did) and they CAN NOT have the initial hit to the receiver be their head (a.k.a. spearing). Reed DID both. Should have been called.

The league I expect, no scratch that, the league BETTER fine him for that. The man has done it in the past, been warned about doing it going forward. In fact he should be suspended for it. If the league and all mighty goodell (I refuse to put a capital letter there) are serious about player safety (which I don’t believe for a moment) then they will do just that. Fine and suspend. The man deserves both for his style of play.

It wasn’t Belicheck’s finest moment, but it doesn’t deserve more than a $20K fine.

There were many bad calls, going both ways, and no calls going both ways. It was a tough physical emotional football game, and this non divisional rivalry is getting better. A lot of calls were corrected on the fly as well. Overall some of the calls may or may not have been better with the regular refs, but many of us would still be complaining today.

Pats fans – you guys have an awesome team, and will be playoff bound.

Oh – and the no call on the Reed-Edelman hit was the right call as well. Point of contact was the chest, and his should pad slid up after the contact and grazed his helmet. Good clean hit, and if you think otherwise then you have clearly never played a down of football in your life and are a couch warrior.

You be the judge……….

Reed went high. Now after watching it several times, it’s boarderline. Fact is, the players know they can get away with certain hits now, since there’s no respect for the refs on the field.

Also, Ray Lewis bitching about the Reed hit on Deion Branch was a head shot. Ray, just because it wasn’t a helmet-to-helmet doesn’t mean it isn’t against the rules.

I understand the field goal cannot be reviewed unless its between the uprights? Why would you review it if its between the uprights and went over the cross bar? Ones you need to review were the ones that happened last night that were maybe outside the crossbars?

Oh, and get rid of Collins, he really sucks and the Jerk at the Saints game ” you can go anywhere in the country and not find more loyal fans that those of the Saints”. What an idiot. Has he ever been to Green Bay?

The saddest part of all of this is the only thing being talked about after a great game is the refs. The storylines of Reed/Lewis v. Brady, Torrey Smith, and the Ravens revenge after the Cundiff miss are all being overshadowed by this. That being said, here are my thoughts:

The Patriots definitely had some pretty important bad calls against them. The holding on McCourty was an awful call and the PI on Spikes was an awful call. The PI on McCourty on Jones near the end was 100% correct, and the OPI on Edelman was also correct by the letter of the law. Tough calls like the holding call really make a team feel like that cost them the game, but the bottom line is that they had 90+ other plays where they could have won the game and didn’t.

On the other side, there were horrible calls as well. The Ngata unnecessary roughing was awful. Brady slid in front of him and Ngata tried to stop but fell on him. Joke of a call. The Webb illegal contact could have been holding, but even that would have been ticky tack as he didn’t really affect the route.

Lastly, that FG was good, and even if it wasn’t – it’s not reviewable. After the screw jobs we have gotten against the Pats in the past (think the undefeated year and 2 years ago when Brady asked for flags on Suggs and Ngata when they 1. got blocked into his leg and barely grazed him and 2. barely grazed the side of his helmet), this is merely karmic justice.