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NFL suspends Joe Mays one game for hit on Matt Schaub

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Broncos linebacker Joe Mays has apologized for his vicious hit on Texans quarterback Matt Schaub on Sunday, but the NFL doesn’t think an apology is enough. And the league office doesn’t think a heavy fine is enough, either.

Instead, Mays has been suspended for one game for his helmet-to-helmet hit, according to ESPN’s Adam Schefter. Mays will appeal the suspension.

The hit was absolutely brutal, knocking Schaub’s helmet off and knocking off a piece of Schaub’s ear, too. Amazingly, Schaub only missed one play, which the Texans’ medical staff apparently felt was sufficient to be sure that Schaub hadn’t suffered a concussion.

Mays is a fifth-year player who has started all three games for the Broncos this season. Last week he was suspended $7,875 for a roughing the passer penalty on Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan. When Mays drilled Schaub this week, the league office apparently decided that it would need a lot more than just a fine to get through to Mays that hits like that simply aren’t accepted in the NFL.

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63 Responses to “NFL suspends Joe Mays one game for hit on Matt Schaub”
  1. falsecreek24 says: Sep 25, 2012 2:22 PM

    Joe Mays = old school football player .

  2. phatg says: Sep 25, 2012 2:23 PM

    Good.

  3. phatg says: Sep 25, 2012 2:24 PM

    Guess the NFL got something right today.

  4. cali49er707 says: Sep 25, 2012 2:24 PM

    They need to suspend the use of replacement reffs!!

  5. Stupid Raiders Fan says: Sep 25, 2012 2:27 PM

    Where did they get the $7875 amount for a fine? And when is the last time a defensive player got suspended for an illegal hit?

    I’m sincerely asking- I have no problems with fines/suspensions like these I just wish there was some consistency. Seems like he’s getting a raw deal because he’s not a superstar. And this is coming from someone that doesn’t like the broncos.

  6. geniusfan says: Sep 25, 2012 2:29 PM

    Not a dirty player but that was a dirty hit. These kinds of hits need to be outlawed, if they aren’t you can kiss organized football goodbye.

  7. bucsfan5000 says: Sep 25, 2012 2:29 PM

    He’d be suspended for the rest of the season for hitting Brady and causing a piece of his ear to fall off.

  8. iced107 says: Sep 25, 2012 2:34 PM

    NFL’s quick to point out how everyone else is wrong but them and the officials.

    #NFL Front office has no integrity

  9. knackstermyea says: Sep 25, 2012 2:36 PM

    I’m A-Mays the NFL made the correct call on this one.

  10. djaehne says: Sep 25, 2012 2:38 PM

    Just a young player trying to make a splash. Had no effect in the game. Texans are tough, oh and undefeated too.

  11. randyschwimmer7 says: Sep 25, 2012 2:38 PM

    I honestly have no idea where they get off suspending him for that hit. I have watched the play over and over and over. Mays hits Schaub in the chest with his arms. At the same time he is getting hit on the other side from another player. The velocity of the hit that Mays put on him (which is not illegal to hit a player with your hands, helmet, elbows or anything) through his chest jarred his helmet loose. The helmet was the thing that hurt him. The helmet pad cut his earlobe. You can even see it when Schaub was on the sideline. He said that the helmet hurt him, not Mays.

    Maybe the league and the Goodell should be worrying about Green Bay in revolt before suspending a guy for a legal hit.

  12. lightcleric says: Sep 25, 2012 2:39 PM

    I thought it was a dirty hit but I don’t think it was on the same level as Harrison, a repeat offender, launching himself at McCoy, which also got 1 game.

  13. titansfan53 says: Sep 25, 2012 2:43 PM

    He’d be suspended for the rest of the season for hitting Brady and causing a piece of his ear to fall off.

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    If Brady’s ear fell off, he would regrow another one.

  14. bucsfan5000 says: Sep 25, 2012 2:45 PM

    But if he hit Josh Freeman, just a $25,000 fine, if that, and no suspension.

  15. footballchic777 says: Sep 25, 2012 2:47 PM

    Did they suspend the replacement refs that didn’t penalize the hit on DHB???

  16. geewhiz23 says: Sep 25, 2012 2:55 PM

    Wondering if the reasoning behind the suspension is the fact he should have prob been ejected from the game. It was pointed out by a few analysts.

  17. headonaswivel says: Sep 25, 2012 2:55 PM

    Suspended for a helmet to shoulder pad hit? I don’t get it at all, that is not illegal. Maybe they should start giving QB’s two flags around their waist. The hit was hard, the force of it knocked the helmet off but Mays helmet hit Schaub’s shoulder pad! The NFL should just start calling penalties for being too mean, LOL

  18. woowoo37 says: Sep 25, 2012 2:56 PM

    Are you kidding me? The “Roughing the Passer” penalty is getting ridiculous. The hit was vicious – yes. It was a great hit. If one would go back and look at the tape, you can see that Matt Schaub’s head lowers/sinks as he prepares for the hit and his helmet coming off was a result of the shoulder pad hitting the face mask and “jutting” the helmet in an upward fashion. Schaub’s ear was cut by the edge/seam of the Schutt ear piece as the helmet came off. I am all for player safety, and as a Pop Warner Coach I am for the most in agreeance on changes that have been made. But at some point there is only so much a defensive player can do to avoid a crushing blow. Getting hit is an inherent part of the game of football, and an inherent part of playing the QB position. Obviously, Matt Schaub was grabbing the sides of his head because his ears hurt when the helmet came off… anyone who has played the game knows that helmets don’t come off “easily” without flexing the area of the helmet around the ear pieces and removing the helmet up over and to the back of the head. If you want to fine a player – fine. But suspending the player is a bit too much for a non-flagrant foul!

  19. mullman76 says: Sep 25, 2012 3:00 PM

    Sweet.

    Still waiting for the suspension/fine on Mundy for his brutal hit on DHB.

    Also, what happened to William and his “just wanted to talk to the ref” incident. I bet Kraft and Co. instructed Goodell to let it slide and allow the MNF debacle to distract the masses.

    Seems to be working so far…

  20. teamobijuan says: Sep 25, 2012 3:00 PM

    Did it not look helmet to helmet to anyone else?

    I think the play before was definitely hit like that, but the second was more to the chest and the whiplash caused the helmet to helmet het.

  21. zoxitic says: Sep 25, 2012 3:00 PM

    That was a vicious hit.

  22. mike5011ad says: Sep 25, 2012 3:00 PM

    The $7875 fine is because the fines were increased by 1% from last year, per the new CBA. They fines will go up every year to keep up with player salaries. Last year, that fine would have been $7,500. Next year, the fine will be just over $8,000. That’s why you get the odd numbers for the fines.

  23. nirvana504 says: Sep 25, 2012 3:03 PM

    NFL, clean up your own mess before you judge others

  24. imodan says: Sep 25, 2012 3:05 PM

    Lost in all this is Schaub missed ONE play! Deion Branch missed zero plays after Ed Reeds hit to his noodle. Now he HAD to be concussed if not for anything else because he came up smiling and shook Reeds hand.
    This concussion bullcrap the NFL is trying to feed us is pure hypocrisy. No way those two players aren’t checked out thoroughly before entering the game.
    I can’t think of one thing Goodell has done for the league but the list of damage he has caused is lengthy. The man needs to go!

  25. cooklynn17 says: Sep 25, 2012 3:05 PM

    Pointless, That hit was awesome. That is what real football is all about.

    Knock somebody out!!!

  26. 808raiderinparadise says: Sep 25, 2012 3:06 PM

    Ok … WR, DHB in hosiptal overnight, play wasn’t even flagged and the same player who hit him,”MUNDY” (the scrub who McFadden juked out his jock strap for 64 yard TD) also hit TE Brandon Myers on the GAME WINNING drive helmet to helmet, Myers also has concussion and no flag was thrown.

    2 players concussions from same player on illegal hits.

    Oh, wait …. thats because DHB & Myers aren’t QB’s?

    ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

  27. bmeye03 says: Sep 25, 2012 3:07 PM

    randyschwimmer7 says:
    Sep 25, 2012 2:38 PM
    I honestly have no idea where they get off suspending him for that hit. I have watched the play over and over and over. Mays hits Schaub in the chest with his arms. At the same time he is getting hit on the other side from another player. The velocity of the hit that Mays put on him (which is not illegal to hit a player with your hands, helmet, elbows or anything) through his chest jarred his helmet loose. The helmet was the thing that hurt him. The helmet pad cut his earlobe. You can even see it when Schaub was on the sideline. He said that the helmet hurt him, not Mays.

    Maybe the league and the Goodell should be worrying about Green Bay in revolt before suspending a guy for a legal hit.

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    I dont know what play you were watching, but his hit was directly to Schaubs facemask which knocked his helmet off. Luckily the facemask took the brunt of the hit or Schaubs face would need reconstruction. Mays never attempted to make a tackle with anything other than his helmet. He deserves to be suspended.

    PS I am not a fan of either team. It was just a dirty hit.

  28. mungman69 says: Sep 25, 2012 3:07 PM

    Yea, suspend the replacement refs.

  29. chrisbntx says: Sep 25, 2012 3:11 PM

    RandySchwimmer,

    I’m not sure what video you watched but right before he hits him he opens up his arms and begins to lower his head. The top of his helmet hits Schaub square in the facemask. His arms never touched Schaub.

    Given that, I beleive he was going to wrap Schaub up and started going down and to the side before his owner player hit him knocking him into Schaub’s helmet. If not for the second player he would have likely hit Schaub’s right shoulder and wrapped him up. If that was in fact the case I do not beleive it warrants a suspension.

  30. shelldaddy1 says: Sep 25, 2012 3:13 PM

    They have suspended players for “dirty” hits its just after multiple times they do it! If this is Joe Mays punishment then I wonder what will come of the Steelers DB “dirty” hit! He intentionally tried to hurt him! The game is getting more violent because certain team are seeing how far they can take these officials who are trying their best but aren’t up to the challenge of being an NFL official! The shield is tarnished with the way the teams are treating these crews! Yes the officials are over matched but the teams that abuse this fact are classless! Perhaps the coaches of these teams should carry some of the blame for the poor officiating so far! I’m nor standing up for the replacement officials by all means they are terrible all I am saying is that the teams abusing the fact that these people can’t keep up is an issue as well.

  31. radrntn says: Sep 25, 2012 3:16 PM

    one game, thats it? NFL is being nice

  32. dmitrythetexan says: Sep 25, 2012 3:18 PM

    Well deserved

  33. sullijo1 says: Sep 25, 2012 3:19 PM

    Clearly a retaliation for Fox and Del Rio actions against the refs last week.

    How does a guy get suspended for a week when he makes such a horrible hit that it makes the guy miss one play?

    This is stupid.

  34. geniusfan says: Sep 25, 2012 3:19 PM

    “He’d be suspended for the rest of the season for hitting Brady and causing a piece of his ear to fall off.”

    Honestly I just don’t get why fans think that Brady gets all these calls. The facts do not support their argument. If you actually look at the numbers when the REAL officials were calling games Brady gets less roughing calls than guys like Jason Campbell, Ryan Fitzpatrick and Ben Roethlisberger, he actually gets fewer calls than all but 5-10 quarterbacks.

    It’s just a classic example of group think. No facts to back up the argument but since fans have perpetuated this myth for so long some take it as fact it’s sad.

  35. realfann says: Sep 25, 2012 3:33 PM

    Shoot, it’s not like he put the guy in hospital or anything.

  36. cooklynn17 says: Sep 25, 2012 3:35 PM

    You got JACKED UP…

  37. jagsfanugh says: Sep 25, 2012 3:37 PM

    Appealing what? Anyone who watched the game could see it was a helmet to helmet hit and he deserves it. That is the least he deserves as there is no reason to go for the qb or any players head.

  38. bro15360 says: Sep 25, 2012 3:39 PM

    This is a load of stinky stuff.

    Please go watch the replay. Mays is aiming right at Schaub’s left shoulder and at the last fractional second Schaub gets hit from the other side, opening up his chest area. Mays hit him in the chest, under his helmet, and that’s what forced his helmet off.

    Mays did nothing wrong here and The Commish and league office are going off of how it looked and how they want QBs to be perceived. What a joke.

  39. wabbitslayer says: Sep 25, 2012 3:42 PM

    I wonder how many of the guys that think that these hits are OK have ever been hit by even a mid-level college linebacker or d-lineman, much less an NFL one.

  40. lovefootball4life says: Sep 25, 2012 3:43 PM

    geniusfan says: Sep 25, 2012 3:19 PM

    “Honestly I just don’t get why fans think that Brady gets all these calls. The facts do not support their argument.”

    Do you have the actual numbers on how many roughing calls a QB gets? Not being sarcastic but I would love to see the actual data.

    Anecdotal evidence from a few years ago recalls Brady getting a roughing call when Suggs brushed against his thigh trying to avoid hitting him. Brady complained. Got the call, then smiled about it.

  41. Mr. Wright 212 says: Sep 25, 2012 3:44 PM

    Clean hit. PERIOD. Just because his helmet flew off???

  42. johninthewest says: Sep 25, 2012 3:44 PM

    Does Mays get to keep part of Matts’ ear that he lost then as a momento?

  43. miketomlinssteelers10 says: Sep 25, 2012 3:45 PM

    808raiderinparadise says:Sep 25, 2012 3:06 PM

    Ok … WR, DHB in hosiptal overnight, play wasn’t even flagged and the same player who hit him,”MUNDY” (the scrub who McFadden juked out his jock strap for 64 yard TD) also hit TE Brandon Myers on the GAME WINNING drive helmet to helmet, Myers also has concussion and no flag was thrown.

    2 players concussions from same player on illegal hits.

    Oh, wait …. thats because DHB & Myers aren’t QB’s?

    ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

    AHHHHHHHHHHH,is right. Why didn’t they call the illegal shift on the raiders before the td?? Why didn’t they call the obvious hold on Ike during that long run by your scrub receiver. Everytime someone our team made a play,a raider tried and succeeded a helmet to helmet (3-4 times)to one of our receivers that were never called. what about the late hit on Ben’s ankle that wasn’t called. I could go on and on but why when we lost the game in the end by not protecting the ball. Everyone’s team had crappy calls.

  44. miketomlinssteelers10 says: Sep 25, 2012 3:48 PM

    Suspending him is justified.

  45. crisper57 says: Sep 25, 2012 3:49 PM

    Don’t they usually reserve suspensions for people with a long history of this type of behavior? I don’t know Mays’ history, but does he have a “James Harrison” reputation?

    My point is that this seems like a new direction for the NFL. Are they are a little quicker on the suspension trigger than they have been in the past?

    Oh, and the suspension is totally justified, IMO.

  46. headonaswivel says: Sep 25, 2012 3:50 PM

    Actually, considering how brittle Schaub has been throughout his career, I’m surprised he wasn’t killed on this hit.

  47. richiebburg says: Sep 25, 2012 3:51 PM

    Why dont we (the fans) just boycott going to the games and watching them on tv and see how fast goodell meets our demands. I will organize if I can get some backing

  48. quicktaker says: Sep 25, 2012 3:55 PM

    It was a horrible dirty hit that could have ended Schaubs career. A one game suspension is not enough. Instead that type of hit should have been the end of Mays’ career.

  49. sammyias says: Sep 25, 2012 3:56 PM

    You can not lower your head, and use the crown of your helmet straight on as a weapon.

  50. ambitoos says: Sep 25, 2012 4:00 PM

    I’ve watched that play over and over. That was a dirty hit by a dirty player. There is no way that that was not intentional. The apology was given only because he’s trying to get the penalty reduced. He’s been around for three years. He knows that you can’t do that. One game suspension was not enough. How much will he lose with a one game suspension?

  51. cooklynn17 says: Sep 25, 2012 4:03 PM

    wabbitslayer says: Sep 25, 2012 3:42 PM

    I wonder how many of the guys that think that these hits are OK have ever been hit by even a mid-level college linebacker or d-lineman, much less an NFL one.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Start by paying me 3.7 million dollars a year and I will give you my answer.

    This is the NFL not basket weaving 101.

  52. cooklynn17 says: Sep 25, 2012 4:07 PM

    They wouldn’t suspend Lawrence Taylor.

    The sack Daddy!!!

  53. contract says: Sep 25, 2012 4:26 PM

    This is the league’s way of diverting attention from last nights debacle.

  54. wesjelker83 says: Sep 25, 2012 4:30 PM

    The only reason he is even getting suspended is because the fact that it takes away from what happened last night and makes the NFL look like it “cares” about player safety and all of the concussion issues…..

  55. theandy59 says: Sep 25, 2012 4:40 PM

    I’m amazed at how someone can look at a video and claim to see something completely different than what’s there. Mays led with his helmet and delivered a vicious helmet-to-helmet hit. It’s the worst one I’ve seen this season and I thought he should have been ejected. The guys whining about it would be the first ones demanding a suspension if it was their QB that got hit like that. Fellas, the game is changing – you need to get on board.

  56. yssupasigninnamnotyep says: Sep 25, 2012 5:23 PM

    You Donkey fans saying that was a legal hit and that Schaub was hit in the chest are hilarious. You people are just so stupid it’s rather quite comical…but it is very typical of Donkey fan. They have absoulutely no clue about the actual game of football.

  57. bear0402 says: Sep 25, 2012 5:29 PM

    Wonder where D. Smith is now on player safety. He flip flops more than a politician.

  58. winterbengal says: Sep 25, 2012 5:59 PM

    Okay I went through this video frame by frame, because I was not seeing what some of you guys were seeing.

    The turning was from Shuab throwing the ball. Mays went helmet to face mask, head first and he hit Shuab clearly before the other guy even touches him.

    From the angle and height of approach, the lowering of the head to spear position, and the pulling back of the arms in an effort to go head first, this was absolutely a dirty illegal shot. He deserved the suspension.

    Keep in mind, as a Bengal fan I do not care if Mays takes him out, but the was purely his intent.

  59. bro15360 says: Sep 25, 2012 6:24 PM

    Yeah, I did the same and found that Schaub’s shoulders turned as a result of the throw. However, in the 2 frames before that happens Joe’s head is clearly aimed at the left deltoid of Schaub’s shoulder.

    Upon releasing the ball Schaub turns to the left, just in time for Joe’s helmet to hit, initially the chest, then the bottom of Schaub’s facemask, thereby forcing it off.

    Keep in mind that this all happens in less than a second. If Schaub pulls a Roethlisberger and pump-fakes, it’s a completely innocuous hit. How is Joe supposed to plan for all scenarios there?

  60. blackngold4life says: Sep 25, 2012 6:39 PM

    Still tryna figure out how Woodley for hittin Sanchez while he’s running outside the pocket gets hit for 21,000 and this dude gets 8,000.. WTF

  61. bro15360 says: Sep 25, 2012 7:36 PM

    Also, you can see Joe’s head level does not change from the first shot to the second. It stays level with the SB Logo in the background.

  62. broncosnative says: Sep 25, 2012 9:03 PM

    I guess of all the helmet to helmet hits this season, mays was the hardest. Or is it because he took of a chunk of ear

  63. billunder says: Sep 26, 2012 12:56 AM

    All I can say is it was a scum hit. Trying to injury another player is pretty low. People know what they are doing and apologising afterward is only an attempt to avoid a fine and penalty. One game is not really a penalty as any money lost in salary is very minor compared to total earnings. Taking people off the field for an extended period is the best option to stop this type of behavior. On the street it would be considered criminal. What happened is one reason I don’t watch NFL to any extent. It’s not a “professional” league except in the sense that people are getting paid for their time.

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