Right.

Got it.

lol, you where not winning the SuperBowl and lose it on 1 play that should have never been called.
you have no idea that you win that game with the calls correctly called. The Packers won that game!!!

How was that play NOT simultaneous possession?

What is everyone screaming about? Both guys were ripping and clawing for the ball down to the ground, on the ground, throughout the whole process.

I’ve seen simultaneous possession called many times in my 40 years of watching football, and it almost always looks EXACTLY like this one did. Why is everyone screaming about this one? Why is this NOT simultaneous possession? I don’t get it at all. The ball fell more into Jennings chest, and Tate was reaching for it, but as long as both have their hands wrapped around it, I thought it was simultaneous possession.

And why would you call PI on a jump ball? Those guys are always pushing and shoving. That push has probably happened on every jump ball in NFL history.

I just don’t get it. Is this just an example of CheesePack Nation extreme over-reaction as usual, or is there some angle I haven’t seen that explains all the screaming and gnashing??

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Blind Moron look again, M.D. Jennings had the ball, Golden Taint comes down with 1 hand on the ball. After they come down, Golden Taint reached around Jennings and puts his other hand on the ball… NOT simultaneous possession

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Youe right. Lets see here…

1. The blindside hit on Jenings
2. The BS roughing call against Weldon
3. The PI call against Shields where he as the defender was accosted
4. The PI on the Fail Mary
5. The botched INT on the Fail Mary

Perhaps the part that you’re having difficulty grasping is that when one player has two arms wrapped around a ball that is clutched to their chest and the other has two extended arms wherein the hyands may or may no make contact with the ball – this situation would not be rationally considered simultaneous possession.

It would be like saying a goalie stopped a puck that is in the net. Yes, he stopped the puck but he didnt save a goal. Tate touched the ball but he didnt have possession.

Right.

Got it.

As a Packers’ fan, I am in some sense glad that we ended up on the side of the call that we did. Seattle’s record will be looked at dubiously throughout the year, especially if they squeeze into the playoffs with an 8-8 or 9-7 record. I’m glad that the Packers don’t have the stench of a fraudulent victory following them for the next 3 months.

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Did you carry that stench during the off-season after winning the Super Bowl in 2011? I mean the victory over the Vikings that year was awarded to Green Bay not on one, but two incorrect touchdown calls by the regular refs. Without that fraudulent win the Packers don’t make the playoffs and cannot win the Super Bowl.

I’ve been so used to it that I’ve become numb to the fact and accepted it as part of watching a Raider game. These last three games flag wise have been a whole new wonderful world

I’m telling you, this is how simultaneous possession always works – it’s a very tough call, and the offense gets a lot of leeway.

How was that play NOT simultaneous possession?

What is everyone screaming about? Both guys were ripping and clawing for the ball down to the ground, on the ground, throughout the whole process.

I’ve seen simultaneous possession called many times in my 40 years of watching football, and it almost always looks EXACTLY like this one did. Why is everyone screaming about this one? Why is this NOT simultaneous possession? I don’t get it at all. The ball fell more into Jennings chest, and Tate was reaching for it, but as long as both have their hands wrapped around it, I thought it was simultaneous possession.

And why would you call PI on a jump ball? Those guys are always pushing and shoving. That push has probably happened on every jump ball in NFL history.

I just don’t get it. Is this just an example of CheesePack Nation extreme over-reaction as usual, or is there some angle I haven’t seen that explains all the screaming and gnashing??

He never saw anything close to what he witnessed Monday night.

Markbreit was at home outside of Chicago, watching Green Bay play at Seattle, and — like millions of other viewers — he was stunned by the officiating calls that were made, the ones that weren’t made, and the Seahawks’ game-winning Hail Mary that wasn’t a catch but an interception.

Photos: Was it a touchdown or an interception?

“I don’t like to see injustice at all,” Markbreit said by phone Tuesday morning. “And I think that injustice has been served on our officials. But this is injustice against a team that deserved to win this game, and it’s terrible. It makes you feel bad. It puts a stain on officiating everywhere.

“The officials that work all the other sports look at this thing and say, ‘My gosh! How could the NFL put these inexperienced guys, to represent the officiating world, on the biggest stage they have? Shame on them.’”

Markbreit, 77, who retired as a game official in 1999, has spent the past decade as an officiating trainer with the league. When the league locked out the officials in June, the trainers were told their services would not be needed either.

Watching Monday’s game, Markbreit found it especially galling that, when the two officials in the end zone had opposite calls, one calling a touchback or time out and the other a touchdown, the referee didn’t step in get both zebras on the same page.

“This is a routine play from our guys,” he said. “It’s a wonderful play, and it’s a great play to officiate, and it’s a great play to get correct.

“The head referee should come down. Anytime you have a play where you have two decisions — one yes, one no — the referee comes down, ‘What’s going on guys?’ that’s negotiation. That’s what a referee does. He doesn’t just call fouls, he negotiates the game.”

The rules don’t state you have to win by 14, they don’t state you need to dominate for 60 minutes, they don’t say it has to look good while you do it. All they state is that you have to have more points than the other team at the end of play. All you need is 1 more point than the other guy.

Green Bay had more points than Seattle at the end of the game. They did everything they were supposed to do – until the very last play that erroneously gave Seattle points they DID NOT EARN. Not a play with 4 minutes left in the game, or the first 1/2 or in the middle of the 3rd quarter, but time was ZERO and there was only 2 possible outcomes. 1. Seattle scores and wins, 2. Seattle doesn’t score and GB retains the lead (was NOT tied) and wins the game as they had 1 more point than Seattle at the end of play. Seattle DID NOT SCORE. Even if they had – there was OPI on the play and it should have resulted in marking yards off and a re-do.

Pictures conclusively show that 1. Tate had no possession in the air. (thus simultaneous possession never happened and possession is NOT awarded to the offense) 2. Tate committed pass interference prior to the pass arriving. 3 Tate did NOT have possession when the play went to the ground as required for all catches in the end zone.

What people are saying is basically – the refs are so bad that a team needs to be up 30 to guarantee they’re not going to get robbed. It’s become college ball where you have to roll someone by a 50 burger so you don’t drop in the polls. It’s garbage.

Seattle , stop the entitlement over SB XL. YOu lost by 11 points. There was not a single call in that game that approached the worst 5 calls in the MNF game this week. Except for the Hasselback 15 yarder, the others were borderline legit. It sucks for you that you got unlucky, but your team needs to make it closer than 11 points before whining.

They dont mention that do they…

BUT here’s the great thing, if the guy isn’t part of a union you can FIRE him. If he is part of a different union and isn’t fired, then everything I’ve ever thought about unions has been verified.

Phuckett

This call was on the booth. thats why replay was implemented, to correct what may have been called incorrectly during real time. get off the replacements they did their job.

Luckett may have done it to make the replacements look bad to help out his buddies, or given his history he may be getting paid out for these ridiculous calls.