Comments on: Aiello on NFLRA talks: “There is no such thing as close”

By: texzilla

texzilla — Thu, 27 Sep 2012 01:32:04 +0000

The NFLRA needs to understand they have no leverage. The league is not going to budge on salary or pensions, nor should they. The league is facing multimillion lawsuits and medical settlements, and they will hold the line.
Let’s see how bad the refs are suffering. They get full benefits for a part time job. 15 weekends a year to make $150-160k per season. Travel first class to each game Saturday morning, all expenses paid, concerierge level hotel rooms, fly home Sunday after the game. Not bad scratch.
The NFLRA has refused to go full time, and many refs would quit or go back to D1 college officiating if forced to go full time. The reason: they all have regular gigs as college profs, lawyers, business owners that pay them more. They want NBA money but that is full time 8 months a year, heavy road livings , and a heck of a lot more games. Not relevant.
The folks failing are the sideline refs who are not guiding the replacements as they should. The replacements will get better each week, reducing the Position of the refs. If one were to scrutinize the reg refs game film like these guys are getting it we would see they make a lot more errors than we remember.

By: unionsblow1

unionsblow1 — Wed, 26 Sep 2012 23:22:16 +0000

unions promote mediocrity. that is all..

By: Deb

Deb — Wed, 26 Sep 2012 22:44:44 +0000

@upperdecker19 …

Never thought about that … but you’re right that the league would have. Yes, I’m sure these guys are contractually obligated until the end. Ugh.

By: frank booth

frank booth — Wed, 26 Sep 2012 22:27:48 +0000

rajbais says:
Sep 26, 2012 3:24 PM
Up in heaven Al Davis is laughing at Chris Mortensen right now .
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No. Al Davis is laughing at Chris Mortensen from the depths of hell.

By: upperdecker19

upperdecker19 — Wed, 26 Sep 2012 22:21:03 +0000

Deb says:
Sep 26, 2012 3:31 PM
I wonder how quickly the deal would be done if the replacements walked off the job … effective immediately.

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I thought about this too……but I’m guessing that the scabs are contractually obligated to show up until a settlement is reached with the regulars. I’m assuming the scrubs’ bank accounts aren’t as tidy as the regulars. Plus, who the heck wants to be sued for breech of contract and end up paying for all the humiliation that they’ve already been subject to?

By: apm

apm — Wed, 26 Sep 2012 22:17:47 +0000

Ulterior motives behind a “leak”? I’m shocked! Shocked!

By: j1bruner

j1bruner — Wed, 26 Sep 2012 22:09:49 +0000

If you run some #s from ESPN,(121×149,000)+[121x38,500] and divide it by the 10 billion figure you hear as a yearly amount of the NFL you get a very small% less than 0.25%

By: mikev65

mikev65 — Wed, 26 Sep 2012 22:06:02 +0000

If this is the case, then why even bother with the shame of having them, it makes the refs no more accountable than they are already, which I will remind, is zero.

“21-official developmental squad that won’t be used during a given season to “bench” the regular officials, the officials want to know how the group will be assembled, what they will be doing during the season, and (perhaps most importantly) how they’ll be paid.”

By: filthymcnasty1

filthymcnasty1 — Wed, 26 Sep 2012 21:56:59 +0000

Thank you PFT. At least somebody knows how to overturn an erroneous call upon further review.

By: rogergoodellsays

rogergoodellsays — Wed, 26 Sep 2012 21:22:18 +0000

The deal will get done when I decide that we’ve milked the ratings enough from creating this circus.
Who would’ve thought that we’d be enjoying such amazing publicity because of referees?
I LOVE ESPN!!

By: mungman69

mungman69 — Wed, 26 Sep 2012 21:15:18 +0000

Get these refs back.

By: musicman495

musicman495 — Wed, 26 Sep 2012 20:36:25 +0000

Dan says: Sep 26, 2012 4:24 PM

The doctor that saved my friend’s life doesn’t get a pension. These people officiating a GAME shouldn’t either. Frankly, they should be ashamed of themselves.
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Cry us a river. When was the last time you saw a doctor who was destitute in old age? If a doctor wants a union pension, tell him to join a union.

By: Dan

Dan — Wed, 26 Sep 2012 20:24:30 +0000

The doctor that saved my friend’s life doesn’t get a pension. These people officiating a GAME shouldn’t either. Frankly, they should be ashamed of themselves.

By: depleted00uranium00balth

depleted00uranium00balth — Wed, 26 Sep 2012 20:23:10 +0000

Cool photo. That is all.

By: edawg7l

edawg7l — Wed, 26 Sep 2012 20:13:52 +0000

Since the owners want to make as much money as possible they might as well play the games and officiate the games. Goodell and these owners are a joke.

By: spauldingsmails

spauldingsmails — Wed, 26 Sep 2012 20:12:43 +0000

Nothing pleases me more than when someone at the 4-letter network screws up a scoop or something along those lines.
I’ve disliked those clowns there since 1995. Which ironically was the last time that channel was relevant.
I don’t get it why anyone uses them for anything sports news or even watches anything on the network or uses their website at all.

I watch that channel for 2 reasons and 2 reasons only. MNF and if the Phillies are being broadcast on there. That’s it! Every personality on there is still striving to make it about them & their personality (oops I mean shtick) and it’s not about the sports. Good job you boobs….1992 is calling and it says you can’t go back in time.

By: mrbigass

mrbigass — Wed, 26 Sep 2012 20:09:22 +0000

So if they don’t want to bring the real refs back until they have a full week’s schedule than that’s pretty much admitting that the repops are crap…..

By: justwinbaby29

justwinbaby29 — Wed, 26 Sep 2012 20:05:56 +0000

The NFL can get away with the replacements for the Browns-Ravens game. Just get them ready for Sunday.

By: baddegg

baddegg — Wed, 26 Sep 2012 20:04:04 +0000

The refs should NOT agree to “any deal” just because they badly get back to work. With this Monday’s fiasco, they have the momentum. If the owners let the replacement refs continue this week, and if those replacement refs sway another game, the NFL is in serious trouble.

The refs need to stand their ground and let the owners be backed down for once in their lives…

By: hendawg21

hendawg21 — Wed, 26 Sep 2012 19:46:51 +0000

I’m sure something could be worked out while the finishing touches are being put on the deal so that you could have the regular refs for the thursday night game….or how about just moving it to oh Friday or Saturday or better yet even Sunday…

By: hawkforlife

hawkforlife — Wed, 26 Sep 2012 19:37:19 +0000

So what happens when you get 121 referees in a room to vote, a replay?

By: hendawg21

hendawg21 — Wed, 26 Sep 2012 19:35:46 +0000

Sure, yeah right, nobody wants to seem as if they are caving at this juncture…this is such BS! If the Owners who are the NFL want to continue to ruin their product and fan base they are going about it the right way…with TV revenue and all they’ve already got their loot so do they really care???

By: Deb

Deb — Wed, 26 Sep 2012 19:31:17 +0000

I wonder how quickly the deal would be done if the replacements walked off the job … effective immediately. As with the player replacements in 1987, this just isn’t working. And if these subs took themselves out of the equation, I have a feeling the timetable for resolving this situation would be moved up considerably.

By: ilovefoolsball

ilovefoolsball — Wed, 26 Sep 2012 19:29:53 +0000

ESPN. Your 24 hour news fabrication leader.

By: tcostant

tcostant — Wed, 26 Sep 2012 19:27:29 +0000

“…that the league likely will prefer an all-or-none approach, for reasons of competitive balance…”

This is silly, you don’t have good officials for most of the games because one game has replacements? Pure silly – with that logic, a deal MUST get done THIS week or else it will be unfair advantage to all the week 4 bye teams, since they would all have one less game with repalcement officials. Crazy.

By: thankheavenfornumberseven

thankheavenfornumberseven — Wed, 26 Sep 2012 19:25:47 +0000

robertocfg says:Sep 26, 2012 3:05 PM

After that last Monday Night Football, I want Ed Hochuli to hug me and tell me everything’s going to be alright.
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He’d probably crush your ribs with his massive arms.

By: rajbais

rajbais — Wed, 26 Sep 2012 19:24:51 +0000

Up in heaven Al Davis is laughing at Chris Mortensen right now .

By: goldrush4949

goldrush4949 — Wed, 26 Sep 2012 19:23:34 +0000

Chris Mortensen – clown.

By: dfrooney

dfrooney — Wed, 26 Sep 2012 19:21:49 +0000

Your Ravens bad call situation has larger issues than just that one game. If the replacements are used in week 4 and the real refs in week 5…one could argue that the Colts and Steelers gain an advantage since they have a bye in week 4.

By: azpackerbacker

azpackerbacker — Wed, 26 Sep 2012 19:14:28 +0000

Remember the “world wide leader” the same “media” outlet that reported an end to the NHL lockout in 2004-2005 prematurley as well as being the first to jump the gun last year on the NFL lockout being over.

As Judge Smails famously said in Caddyshack, “Well….. We’re waiting!”