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	<title>Comments on: NFL VP Ray Anderson says (hopes) Packers loss won&#8217;t matter</title>
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		<title>By: liveonthepackerhotline</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[liveonthepackerhotline]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2012 13:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is the same BS that was pulled on the Raiders/Pats game....the infamous tuck rule. Same chit different toilet!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the same BS that was pulled on the Raiders/Pats game&#8230;.the infamous tuck rule. Same chit different toilet!</p>
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		<title>By: houndog50</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2012 01:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[claymatthewshairplugs says: Sep 29, 2012 1:56 PM

Christ Packers fans get over it! New England got robbed by the refs you don’t see them whining. 
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Where have you been hiding Clay? Your boy Brady is the biggest whiner in the NFL, the dude cries foul if he gets a hangnail!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>claymatthewshairplugs says: Sep 29, 2012 1:56 PM</p>
<p>Christ Packers fans get over it! New England got robbed by the refs you don’t see them whining.<br />
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Where have you been hiding Clay? Your boy Brady is the biggest whiner in the NFL, the dude cries foul if he gets a hangnail!</p>
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		<title>By: bobnelsonjr</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bobnelsonjr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2012 01:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Instead of the Seahawk people saying there was only a blown call against them too, perhaps some honestly would would remind them that the Packers had TWO game ending INT&#039;s taken from them and the Seahawks had one huge bogus pass interference call call favor them to get on the Packers end of the field late in the game. 

If not for multiple blown calls by the officials, the Packers would have have at least two more scores in their lead at at the end of the game. 

All of those blown calls artificial kept the Seahawks within range.  

That&#039;s what led to the national outrage that convinced the 31 owners to clean up their poor product.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instead of the Seahawk people saying there was only a blown call against them too, perhaps some honestly would would remind them that the Packers had TWO game ending INT&#8217;s taken from them and the Seahawks had one huge bogus pass interference call call favor them to get on the Packers end of the field late in the game. </p>
<p>If not for multiple blown calls by the officials, the Packers would have have at least two more scores in their lead at at the end of the game. </p>
<p>All of those blown calls artificial kept the Seahawks within range.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s what led to the national outrage that convinced the 31 owners to clean up their poor product.</p>
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		<title>By: thejuddstir</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thejuddstir]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2012 00:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can we please STOP with the whining and worrying about the  poor Packers and their game with Seahawks. There have been countless teams that lost a game because of a bad call ....what makes this any different??? Perhaps because it&#039;s the first time the Packers have ever lost a game like this.......join the rest of the league GB. We know the Packers get all kinds of special treatment from the league (excessive celebrations after a TD like jumping into the stands which no other team can do without a penalty, having the ability to print ten&#039;s of millions of dollars worth of funny money which no other team can do, etc. etc.). If the Packers want to be treated like the &quot;big boys&quot;, maybe they should start playing on the same level field as te other 31 teams.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we please STOP with the whining and worrying about the  poor Packers and their game with Seahawks. There have been countless teams that lost a game because of a bad call &#8230;.what makes this any different??? Perhaps because it&#8217;s the first time the Packers have ever lost a game like this&#8230;&#8230;.join the rest of the league GB. We know the Packers get all kinds of special treatment from the league (excessive celebrations after a TD like jumping into the stands which no other team can do without a penalty, having the ability to print ten&#8217;s of millions of dollars worth of funny money which no other team can do, etc. etc.). If the Packers want to be treated like the &#8220;big boys&#8221;, maybe they should start playing on the same level field as te other 31 teams.</p>
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		<title>By: bobnelsonjr</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bobnelsonjr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 23:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ray Anderson already realizes that the &quot;natural laws of the NFL&quot; have already been violated with the scandal in Seattle.  

After whistling in the minefield next to the graveyard on the league&#039;s decision to have substandard officials in charge of their games, perhaps the NFL ought to have a better strategy for entering minefields than producing shrill sounds and crossing fingers. 

Perhaps the best thing the 31 owners could do is hire a commissioner who has worked his way of in the NFL with a team (like Pete Rozelle and Bert Bell) instead of hiring the NFL&#039;s lawyer (Tagliabue) or some league office employee (the current commissioner).  

The skill lacking in the last two is a commissioner who has been answerable to fans as well as owners.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray Anderson already realizes that the &#8220;natural laws of the NFL&#8221; have already been violated with the scandal in Seattle.  </p>
<p>After whistling in the minefield next to the graveyard on the league&#8217;s decision to have substandard officials in charge of their games, perhaps the NFL ought to have a better strategy for entering minefields than producing shrill sounds and crossing fingers. </p>
<p>Perhaps the best thing the 31 owners could do is hire a commissioner who has worked his way of in the NFL with a team (like Pete Rozelle and Bert Bell) instead of hiring the NFL&#8217;s lawyer (Tagliabue) or some league office employee (the current commissioner).  </p>
<p>The skill lacking in the last two is a commissioner who has been answerable to fans as well as owners.</p>
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		<title>By: irishgary</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[irishgary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 23:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@kattykathy 

Yes you moron it was a catch and Jennings caught.

And for the rest of you talking about BS calls. The other two huge ones were the pass interference call on Shileds which should have been on rice and the roughing the passer call on Wladen which if not called would have ended the game.

I&#039;m over but tired of the incredibly stupid comments.

On to the New Orleans game and getting back on track. Offense needs to improve Defense is looking much better than expected.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@kattykathy </p>
<p>Yes you moron it was a catch and Jennings caught.</p>
<p>And for the rest of you talking about BS calls. The other two huge ones were the pass interference call on Shileds which should have been on rice and the roughing the passer call on Wladen which if not called would have ended the game.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m over but tired of the incredibly stupid comments.</p>
<p>On to the New Orleans game and getting back on track. Offense needs to improve Defense is looking much better than expected.</p>
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		<title>By: eezyxyz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eezyxyz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 22:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[God, I&#039;m so sick of this story.  Not only is there an argument to be made that it was the correct call, but even if you think it was not the Packers are certainly not the first team to lose a game they &quot;should&quot; have won because of debatable officiating.  With 13 games left in the season the Packers have only themselves to blame if they don&#039;t win enough games to make the playoffs.  I&#039;ve always liked the Packers as a team and respected their fans, but if there&#039;s any wailing and gnashing of teeth at the end of the season if the Pack miss the playoffs by 1 game they will instantly become my least favorite team/fans ever.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God, I&#8217;m so sick of this story.  Not only is there an argument to be made that it was the correct call, but even if you think it was not the Packers are certainly not the first team to lose a game they &#8220;should&#8221; have won because of debatable officiating.  With 13 games left in the season the Packers have only themselves to blame if they don&#8217;t win enough games to make the playoffs.  I&#8217;ve always liked the Packers as a team and respected their fans, but if there&#8217;s any wailing and gnashing of teeth at the end of the season if the Pack miss the playoffs by 1 game they will instantly become my least favorite team/fans ever.</p>
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		<title>By: Soulman45</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Soulman45]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 21:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This game could keep the Packers out of the playoff and put THE GREAT DETROIT LIONS in.
It could be for home field,what about draft order we should think one game could have a larger effect later on in the year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This game could keep the Packers out of the playoff and put THE GREAT DETROIT LIONS in.<br />
It could be for home field,what about draft order we should think one game could have a larger effect later on in the year.</p>
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		<title>By: cmdv8</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cmdv8]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 21:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OH NO!!! the packers lost lets all sit around a cry ogver it wahhh. get over it already btw not a fan of either]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OH NO!!! the packers lost lets all sit around a cry ogver it wahhh. get over it already btw not a fan of either</p>
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		<title>By: senky3</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[senky3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 20:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[for all of you using the logic of the nfl said it was a good call, think about it.  how many times in the past has the &quot;nfl&quot; agreed with a bad call just so they would have to say the ref blew it?  megatrons non catch come to mind but there are hundreds more.  and then we had pierra(sp) tell us  bs logic on how it was right.  this call could not be called wrong for a couple of reasons.  one is the nfl would have had to admit the  rep refs were a mistake.  the other is if the replay official had reversed the call, there would have been a riot.  think about it, a full stadium estactic over an called winning td on minute, losing the game the next.  not good for anyone]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for all of you using the logic of the nfl said it was a good call, think about it.  how many times in the past has the &#8220;nfl&#8221; agreed with a bad call just so they would have to say the ref blew it?  megatrons non catch come to mind but there are hundreds more.  and then we had pierra(sp) tell us  bs logic on how it was right.  this call could not be called wrong for a couple of reasons.  one is the nfl would have had to admit the  rep refs were a mistake.  the other is if the replay official had reversed the call, there would have been a riot.  think about it, a full stadium estactic over an called winning td on minute, losing the game the next.  not good for anyone</p>
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		<title>By: packfan1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[packfan1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 20:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aegiswolf.  Seahawks didn&#039;t have a first down in second half until 8 mins left in 4th wtf..and that was on a gimme roughing passer call on third down when packers intercepted it (works been game over).  And then a phantom PI call where it would have been 3rd and 25 after that.  This is all before the final play/interception.  They played a great second half, everyone in America except seahawk fans and haters knows packers won that game, and deserved to.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aegiswolf.  Seahawks didn&#8217;t have a first down in second half until 8 mins left in 4th wtf..and that was on a gimme roughing passer call on third down when packers intercepted it (works been game over).  And then a phantom PI call where it would have been 3rd and 25 after that.  This is all before the final play/interception.  They played a great second half, everyone in America except seahawk fans and haters knows packers won that game, and deserved to.</p>
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		<title>By: Legion Of Boom</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Legion Of Boom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 20:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wish Steve Sabol was still alive. The “Tuck Rule”, “Immaculate Reception”, and the “Music City Miracle” each got their own shows. I would love to watch NFL Films actually break this down instead of hack bloggers, arm chair quarterbacks, and has beens on ESPN.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish Steve Sabol was still alive. The “Tuck Rule”, “Immaculate Reception”, and the “Music City Miracle” each got their own shows. I would love to watch NFL Films actually break this down instead of hack bloggers, arm chair quarterbacks, and has beens on ESPN.</p>
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		<title>By: bluebongzilla</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bluebongzilla]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 20:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot; Just cause the refs gave them the win didn’t mean they won the game.&quot;

Right. The final score means they won the game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; Just cause the refs gave them the win didn’t mean they won the game.&#8221;</p>
<p>Right. The final score means they won the game.</p>
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		<title>By: scoops1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[scoops1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 20:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[kattykathy says:
Sep 29, 2012 1:48 PM
The way the Packers players and their fans acted after a legit loss was very embarrassing.

To every parent that wants to teach their children about poor sportsmanship, and being a sore loser…….just refer to the two above sad groups
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Get over yourself....

Poor Sportsmanship is the way Pete Carroll handled himself after being handed a win and celebrating like the DB he is after the call standed.

If the GB players were that bad of sportsmanship that you describe em to be, they would have stayed in the locker room and not come out for the PAT.

You obviously have no clue it is like to play organized sports

never mind...i&#039;m talking to someone with the word Katty in their screen name]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kattykathy says:<br />
Sep 29, 2012 1:48 PM<br />
The way the Packers players and their fans acted after a legit loss was very embarrassing.</p>
<p>To every parent that wants to teach their children about poor sportsmanship, and being a sore loser…….just refer to the two above sad groups<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Get over yourself&#8230;.</p>
<p>Poor Sportsmanship is the way Pete Carroll handled himself after being handed a win and celebrating like the DB he is after the call standed.</p>
<p>If the GB players were that bad of sportsmanship that you describe em to be, they would have stayed in the locker room and not come out for the PAT.</p>
<p>You obviously have no clue it is like to play organized sports</p>
<p>never mind&#8230;i&#8217;m talking to someone with the word Katty in their screen name</p>
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		<title>By: osiris33</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[osiris33]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 20:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Packers DID NOT do enough to win that game. They were gifted 9 points by the same refs they now blame for the loss. Even if the final play was the wrong call (and it wasn&#039;t), the SEAHAWKS deserved to win that game. 

It will be interesteing to see how bad the refs pick on the Seahawks the rest of the season. I expect they won&#039;t get a call the rest of the year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Packers DID NOT do enough to win that game. They were gifted 9 points by the same refs they now blame for the loss. Even if the final play was the wrong call (and it wasn&#8217;t), the SEAHAWKS deserved to win that game. </p>
<p>It will be interesteing to see how bad the refs pick on the Seahawks the rest of the season. I expect they won&#8217;t get a call the rest of the year.</p>
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		<title>By: packafan4life</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[packafan4life]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 20:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seahawks played worse than the Packers did.  They had less than 150yds in total offense until the last drive where they gained 35+ yds off a offensive a pass interference call that they called on Shields (JOKE) and 6 points from a INT (BIGGER JOKE).  The Seahawks should have done more in the 59 mins 42 seconds in that game to win you tools.  Just cause the refs gave them the win didn&#039;t mean they won the game.  There is a reason there is 60 mins in a game not 59 mins 42 seconds.  Now go hug your Golden Taint that praises God then tells the world that catching a DB that intercepted a pass equals a catch for a TD.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seahawks played worse than the Packers did.  They had less than 150yds in total offense until the last drive where they gained 35+ yds off a offensive a pass interference call that they called on Shields (JOKE) and 6 points from a INT (BIGGER JOKE).  The Seahawks should have done more in the 59 mins 42 seconds in that game to win you tools.  Just cause the refs gave them the win didn&#8217;t mean they won the game.  There is a reason there is 60 mins in a game not 59 mins 42 seconds.  Now go hug your Golden Taint that praises God then tells the world that catching a DB that intercepted a pass equals a catch for a TD.</p>
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		<title>By: whatevnfl</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[whatevnfl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 20:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But I thought the NFL thought it was the right call...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But I thought the NFL thought it was the right call&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bolts0621</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bolts0621]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 19:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chargers missed the playoffs due to Ed Hochulis screw up a few years back - who cares... The Packers played horribly and deserved to lose]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chargers missed the playoffs due to Ed Hochulis screw up a few years back &#8211; who cares&#8230; The Packers played horribly and deserved to lose</p>
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		<title>By: cmizzad</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cmizzad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 18:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Uh, the Packers fans are over it.  

The only people I see who keep bringing it up are Seahawks fans who keep trying to legitimize their team&#039;s win (to no avail).  

And you want to talk about team class?  McCarthy handled the situation much better than Carroll who continued to lie to the media about it.

Try all you want to reinterpret the rule book, but the play will always be correctly known as the FAIL MARY and one of the lowest points in NFL history.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, the Packers fans are over it.  </p>
<p>The only people I see who keep bringing it up are Seahawks fans who keep trying to legitimize their team&#8217;s win (to no avail).  </p>
<p>And you want to talk about team class?  McCarthy handled the situation much better than Carroll who continued to lie to the media about it.</p>
<p>Try all you want to reinterpret the rule book, but the play will always be correctly known as the FAIL MARY and one of the lowest points in NFL history.</p>
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		<title>By: stellarperformance</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/29/nfl-vp-ray-anderson-says-hopes-packers-loss-wont-matter/#comment-2032495</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stellarperformance]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 18:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Until the Packers begin to demonstrate how good &quot;they really are,&quot; I can&#039;t feel sorry for them losing at Seattle. With the team they have, it shouldn&#039;t have been close. Step up and do it soon. By the way, I&#039;m a Green Bay season ticket holder.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Until the Packers begin to demonstrate how good &#8220;they really are,&#8221; I can&#8217;t feel sorry for them losing at Seattle. With the team they have, it shouldn&#8217;t have been close. Step up and do it soon. By the way, I&#8217;m a Green Bay season ticket holder.</p>
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		<title>By: boover3</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/29/nfl-vp-ray-anderson-says-hopes-packers-loss-wont-matter/#comment-2032493</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[boover3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 18:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I see a lot of fans of other teams telling Packer fans to stop crying, we have! Sure, the Pack were projected to score more points against Seattle, but the Packers did enough to win in a hostile Qwest Field. The greatest team and greatest fanbase in the world will come together. This can definitely be a positive moving forward that Green Bay will be given nothing. Earn it and go get it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see a lot of fans of other teams telling Packer fans to stop crying, we have! Sure, the Pack were projected to score more points against Seattle, but the Packers did enough to win in a hostile Qwest Field. The greatest team and greatest fanbase in the world will come together. This can definitely be a positive moving forward that Green Bay will be given nothing. Earn it and go get it!</p>
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		<title>By: george4136</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[george4136]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 18:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yup. Its the Packers players and fans writing all of the articles about this game. All the talking heads media, other players other than the Seahaks, and all the non packer hating general public are all wrong. If you still think it was a touchdown you&#039;re just not that intelligent. There&#039;s a reason the NFL scrambled to get a deal done. They know they screwed a team over.
Can&#039;t wait til this weeks games are played and we forget about this week..... until this one game swing matters]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup. Its the Packers players and fans writing all of the articles about this game. All the talking heads media, other players other than the Seahaks, and all the non packer hating general public are all wrong. If you still think it was a touchdown you&#8217;re just not that intelligent. There&#8217;s a reason the NFL scrambled to get a deal done. They know they screwed a team over.<br />
Can&#8217;t wait til this weeks games are played and we forget about this week&#8230;.. until this one game swing matters</p>
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		<title>By: thetokyosandblaster</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/29/nfl-vp-ray-anderson-says-hopes-packers-loss-wont-matter/#comment-2032474</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thetokyosandblaster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 18:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PS... Kathy, your team must be a perennial loser.  Only losers complain about &quot;sportsmanship.&quot;

My guess?  Vikings fan.  

Vikings fans are the scum of the flippin&#039; earth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS&#8230; Kathy, your team must be a perennial loser.  Only losers complain about &#8220;sportsmanship.&#8221;</p>
<p>My guess?  Vikings fan.  </p>
<p>Vikings fans are the scum of the flippin&#8217; earth.</p>
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		<title>By: aegiswolf</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/29/nfl-vp-ray-anderson-says-hopes-packers-loss-wont-matter/#comment-2032473</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aegiswolf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 18:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[packfan1 they had the ball with less than 2 minutes remaining and went 3 and out. Get a first down and it&#039;s over and THEN they earned the win. But because they failed they left it in the hands of the officials.  They didn&#039;t deserve to win; neither did the Hawks. It is what it is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>packfan1 they had the ball with less than 2 minutes remaining and went 3 and out. Get a first down and it&#8217;s over and THEN they earned the win. But because they failed they left it in the hands of the officials.  They didn&#8217;t deserve to win; neither did the Hawks. It is what it is.</p>
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		<title>By: thetokyosandblaster</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/29/nfl-vp-ray-anderson-says-hopes-packers-loss-wont-matter/#comment-2032469</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thetokyosandblaster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 18:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Facts?  There were blown calls by the refs for BOTH teams that led to the score being the way it was.  

Was there a phantom PI on the Seahawks that &quot;gave&quot; the packers a TD?  Perhaps, but there were phantom PI calls on the Packers that gave the Seahawks points.  It&#039;s not like it was blatantly Packers bias the whole game and then on the last play it changed.  

Also, if 90% of the world thinks it wasn&#039;t a catch, and 100% of the world says it should have been PI on tate, the wrong call was made.  

I&#039;m not crying.  I think this actually a blessing for the Packers.  The Packers will end up 13-3 or 12-4, win the division (easily) and the Seahawks will end up 3rd in their own division and won&#039;t make the playoffs.  

The end.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Facts?  There were blown calls by the refs for BOTH teams that led to the score being the way it was.  </p>
<p>Was there a phantom PI on the Seahawks that &#8220;gave&#8221; the packers a TD?  Perhaps, but there were phantom PI calls on the Packers that gave the Seahawks points.  It&#8217;s not like it was blatantly Packers bias the whole game and then on the last play it changed.  </p>
<p>Also, if 90% of the world thinks it wasn&#8217;t a catch, and 100% of the world says it should have been PI on tate, the wrong call was made.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not crying.  I think this actually a blessing for the Packers.  The Packers will end up 13-3 or 12-4, win the division (easily) and the Seahawks will end up 3rd in their own division and won&#8217;t make the playoffs.  </p>
<p>The end.</p>
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		<title>By: jhein23</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/29/nfl-vp-ray-anderson-says-hopes-packers-loss-wont-matter/#comment-2032462</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jhein23]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 18:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Packers are playing terrible offensive football right now and still were in position to win this game in a hostile environment on MNF. If Seahawks fans want to pound their chest like they are a dominant team go for it. I think this will be much like 2009 Packers team that started 4-4 because of a struggling offense than got on a roll til they were beat in Arizona 1st round overtime game.

Not sure the Packers are a SB team this year but I still think they are the best team in the NFC North and I know they are a better team overall than the Seahawks. That games at Lambeau and its not close even with the Packers offense playing like garbage right now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Packers are playing terrible offensive football right now and still were in position to win this game in a hostile environment on MNF. If Seahawks fans want to pound their chest like they are a dominant team go for it. I think this will be much like 2009 Packers team that started 4-4 because of a struggling offense than got on a roll til they were beat in Arizona 1st round overtime game.</p>
<p>Not sure the Packers are a SB team this year but I still think they are the best team in the NFC North and I know they are a better team overall than the Seahawks. That games at Lambeau and its not close even with the Packers offense playing like garbage right now.</p>
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		<title>By: packfan1</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/29/nfl-vp-ray-anderson-says-hopes-packers-loss-wont-matter/#comment-2032454</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[packfan1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 18:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love the &#039;Packers should of done more and should have scored more points to deserve to win the game&#039; comments.  With that mind set, what did Seattle do to win the game?  They didn&#039;t score many points either (one td in fact).  This is the nfl, your going to have bad games, and packers had a terrible first half.   But they adjusted and actually played a great second half. They did deserve to win the game.  How many close games did the Packers have their superbowl year? Alot.  To say they didn&#039;t deserve to win is bs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the &#8216;Packers should of done more and should have scored more points to deserve to win the game&#8217; comments.  With that mind set, what did Seattle do to win the game?  They didn&#8217;t score many points either (one td in fact).  This is the nfl, your going to have bad games, and packers had a terrible first half.   But they adjusted and actually played a great second half. They did deserve to win the game.  How many close games did the Packers have their superbowl year? Alot.  To say they didn&#8217;t deserve to win is bs.</p>
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		<title>By: footballrulz</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/29/nfl-vp-ray-anderson-says-hopes-packers-loss-wont-matter/#comment-2032447</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[footballrulz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 18:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Packer fan here &amp; I agree wholeheartedly that the Pack should have not put themselves in a position to where that call cost them the game.
However, if you are a Seahawk fan &amp; feel good about that win then you are delusional, much like your coach.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Packer fan here &amp; I agree wholeheartedly that the Pack should have not put themselves in a position to where that call cost them the game.<br />
However, if you are a Seahawk fan &amp; feel good about that win then you are delusional, much like your coach.</p>
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		<title>By: kattykathy</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/29/nfl-vp-ray-anderson-says-hopes-packers-loss-wont-matter/#comment-2032437</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kattykathy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 18:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just a thought........
If the Ref says it was a catch.......and after reviewing the play, still rules it a catch.............and the next day the leagues regular and permanent employees review the play and STILL rule it a catch.........
Then maybe, just maybe, it WAS A CATCH.

The league knows the rules better that Fat Joe on the sofa. 

What is even more sad than the Packers and their fans inability to show class in defeat, was the media that helped fuel the lack of class by acting like they knew the rules better than the league]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a thought&#8230;&#8230;..<br />
If the Ref says it was a catch&#8230;&#8230;.and after reviewing the play, still rules it a catch&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.and the next day the leagues regular and permanent employees review the play and STILL rule it a catch&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br />
Then maybe, just maybe, it WAS A CATCH.</p>
<p>The league knows the rules better that Fat Joe on the sofa. </p>
<p>What is even more sad than the Packers and their fans inability to show class in defeat, was the media that helped fuel the lack of class by acting like they knew the rules better than the league</p>
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		<title>By: aaronitout</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/29/nfl-vp-ray-anderson-says-hopes-packers-loss-wont-matter/#comment-2032434</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aaronitout]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 18:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ aegis and Kathy

I think you are misunderstanding the game. Those crucial 8 seconds weren&#039;t in the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or 14:52 seconds of the 4th. It was the FINAL play of the game. The Pack, while playing terribly, did do enough to win the game. It was blow call on the FINAL play of the game that caused the loss. Sure they could have played better but they DID play well enough to win  and it was stolen by the replacement ref.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ aegis and Kathy</p>
<p>I think you are misunderstanding the game. Those crucial 8 seconds weren&#8217;t in the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or 14:52 seconds of the 4th. It was the FINAL play of the game. The Pack, while playing terribly, did do enough to win the game. It was blow call on the FINAL play of the game that caused the loss. Sure they could have played better but they DID play well enough to win  and it was stolen by the replacement ref.</p>
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