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Sunday night wrap-up: Eagles escape

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After so many times, you’re conditioned to expect Eli Manning and the Giants to win this game.

Instead, it was the Philadelphia Eagles with the late-game magic, and a 19-17 win Sunday night.

Manning has earned the benefit of the doubt. Having a pair of Super Bowl rings will do that for you.

But there are times he’s like a golfer who is great at getting out of trouble because he gets himself into trouble. He followed a nice fourth-down conversion pass early in the fourth quarter with a ridiculous interception, killing a potential go-ahead drive.

Again, he’s Eli Manning, so it might be quibbling, but there is a tendency to make red zone mistakes that require his brilliant knack for saving himself.

The last drive was undone by an offensive pass interference call on Ramses Barden, and the Giants missed a pair of potential game-winning field goals (after Andy Reid successfully iced the first miss).

It was counter to what you were expecting, but the Eagles earned this one, by playing aggressive defense throughout, and preventing Manning from doing what you anticipated.

In doing so, they’ve moved to 3-1, having won their three games by a combined four points.

Maybe that means we need to rethink our expectations of these two teams.

Here are five more things we learned during Sunday Night Football:

1. There was a terrifying moment in the third quarter when I feared someone kidnapped Reid.

The Eagles called run plays, four of them in a row, and they worked.

LeSean McCoy is obviously a talented player, but works for a guy who may never use him to his full potential. While he did have 23 carries for 123 yards, he’s the kind of back who could do it weekly given appropriate opportunity.

Put simply, when the Eagles put him to work, the Eagles move the ball.

Having more balance to their offense in the form of letting McCoy do his thing is only going to make the Eagles weapons on the perimeter that much more dangerous.

And having more polish in that area might help them turn a lot of those field goals into something more valuable, and there will be nights when that matters more.

2. Eagles quarterback Michael Vick will never be conventional, and he has taken a beating.

But his unique gifts at least give him a chance to survive, and perhaps thrive.

Vick showed his remarkable balance in the first half, when he was nearly knocked down by Giants defensive tackle Rocky Bernard in the end zone for a safety, but collected himself enough to sidearm the ball out of bounds to reset himself on the next play.

It was a small thing, but shows the ability he has.

3. Both the Giants and Eagles have plenty of talent on the defensive line.

But not as much as it appeared.

Both offensive lines have been depleted by injuries, and the tackles took turns clutching and grabbing and holding (with Giants tackle Will Beatty at one point using what, I think, was either the Sleeperhold or the Cobra Clutch).

The Eagles showed a little more muscle in the second half, but neither line is going to send very many players to Hawaii.

4. It may take time for David Wilson to work his way out of the doghouse, after his fumble in the opener.

But the Giants clearly need him to earn some trust.

Ahmad Bradshaw and Andre Brown have their value, but the Giants lack a dynamic element in the running game.

Wilson could be that guy, if Tom Coughlin ever trusted him.

He looked outstanding in the return game, and they need to harness some of that in the base offense.

5. It was very helpful of the Eagles to announce that cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha was taken to a nearby hospital to get his eye checked.

It was even more helpful later when they announced that he didn’t go to the hospital, which was right before he went back on the field.

You’d think as much money as they spent on him, they’d have a better handle on where he is at any given moment.

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82 Responses to “Sunday night wrap-up: Eagles escape”
  1. logicalthinkersays says: Sep 30, 2012 11:46 PM

    All I saw are 2 teams who the Redskins will sweep.

  2. thankheavenfornumberseven says: Sep 30, 2012 11:49 PM

    Andy Reid should be immediately fired. McCoy was running through the Giants the whole second half and they bring in the backup to run it on second and goal at the end. Then instead of trying to get a TD on third down they roll out Vick just to play for the field goal. Then calling time out on the field goal to ice the kicker, which never works. They won this game because of pure luck.

  3. jbl429 says: Sep 30, 2012 11:50 PM

    terrible game management by the giants at the end. they had 3rd down and the refs called like 6 consecutive PA penalties. take a shot in the end zone and either get the TD or have a shot at a chip shot FG to win it. tynes is a solid kicker, but he doesn’t have a strong leg. he’ll make 99% of his kicks inside 40, outside it’s a gamble. the giants lost that gamble.

  4. jh500 says: Sep 30, 2012 11:51 PM

    and vick does something brady cant do… beat the giants. vick>brady

  5. phillyphannn83 says: Sep 30, 2012 11:52 PM

    3-1, that’s all that matters. Still in first baby!!!

  6. pottstownphilsphan says: Sep 30, 2012 11:55 PM

    The Eagles did earn this victory. Obviously it pains you greatly to give any credit to Philadelphia. You surely atoned for your self-inflicted guilty concious by offering several low-blow, backhanded compliments and outright insults. Not that you are any more positive about the Giants. I suspect you are miserable little man with poorly behaved children and rapidly aging wife who is consistently buying new and bigger clothing.

  7. lilrob10201 says: Sep 30, 2012 11:56 PM

    Reid almost pulled a Jason Garrett.

  8. phillyphannn83 says: Sep 30, 2012 11:56 PM

    FYI, guess who leads the league in red zone turnovers since 2010???

    That would be Sh-eli

  9. giantsfan2104 says: Sep 30, 2012 11:57 PM

    That was one HELL of a game!

    Props to Philly.

  10. oaktown49er says: Sep 30, 2012 11:58 PM

    Timeouts on fieldgoals has got to stop, but luckily for Reid the second was short

  11. geniusfan says: Sep 30, 2012 11:59 PM

    The Eagles own the Giants. They are 8-1 in their last nine against them. This was a great win for the Eagles, sending the Giants to 0-2 in the division is big.

    Fly Eagles fly!!!!

  12. kingcarlbanks says: Sep 30, 2012 11:59 PM

    Good game by the Eagles, my Giants deserved to lose. Bad playcalling, lack of discipline on defense, and going away from the hot running back cost Mt squad the game. And Barden trying to rape Asomuah didnt help either…

  13. benh999 says: Sep 30, 2012 11:59 PM

    I assume we are not going to hold the regular refs to the same standards we held the replacements to and note the questionable OPI that knocked the Giants out of FG range.

  14. tedesco47 says: Oct 1, 2012 12:00 AM

    This game came down to Vick outplaying Eli (yet again).
    How the eagles won this game with their abismal offensive line is shocking.
    Just more proof that this giants team is the worst team to ever win a superbowl…

  15. diegiantsdie says: Oct 1, 2012 12:02 AM

    Where the haters. Philly tried to give the giants the game and they still couldn’t do it. Philly stomps n.y. everytime. Giants in the basement of the east

  16. gochargersgo says: Oct 1, 2012 12:03 AM

    Really happy someone finally says it about Eli. The reason he has more 4th qtr comebacks than Rodgers, Peyton, Brady, etc. is because his team is always losing. The ACTUAL elite quarterbacks have put their teams up after 3 qtrs of play.

  17. eaglesfan94 says: Oct 1, 2012 12:03 AM

    Both teams played a pretty solid game. Giving the ball to McCoy and Vick using his legs were definitely the keys to victory. Eagles tried to blow it at the end with that idiotic time out, but thankfully it didn’t matter.

  18. kingkreg12 says: Oct 1, 2012 12:07 AM

    I love that you finally brought up the fact that half of the Giants comebacks were because of the piss poor play of Eli earlier in the game. Tampa game is a great example in my mind, guy gets glorified for his second half play and his comeback but it was him that put them in that tough situation in the first place.

    It is impossible to ignore the fact that Eli Manning has gotten better as a QB, but it is also ignorant to say that he is elite. He continues to come up with mind numbing plays that have to leave the coaches and fans thinking $^@*#!!!! 2 rings is a nice argument to fall back on, but in reality those two Super Bowls were aided by an insane amount of luck and everything falling into place for them.

    Eli has never been a consistent QB and always has trouble winning a ton of games in a season (check his under .600 winning % and career 82 passer rating for backup). Without the crazy miracle plays, the Giants are really a mediocre team that finds a way to continue to get lucky…. but as anyone knows, luck does run out.

  19. janvanflac says: Oct 1, 2012 12:08 AM

    Eagles left some points on the field, but i hope Andy and Marty learned something from this game. Good things happen when you don’t just heave it down the field on every play.

  20. illad3lph1a says: Oct 1, 2012 12:08 AM

    Sounds like someone lost money on a bet? Go eagles !!

  21. fdugrad says: Oct 1, 2012 12:08 AM

    Eli’s int.=Killer, Barden penalty=Killer. Giants should have trusted Eli to throw a five to ten yard sideline pass to get closer prior to the field goal attempt (s). Coach C. must be grinding his teeth thinking about key mistakes making the G-Men 2-2 instead of 3-1. NFC East could be an interesting fight this year.

  22. bluebongzilla says: Oct 1, 2012 12:10 AM

    Cowboys are the best and most complete team in the division.

  23. steelcurtainn says: Oct 1, 2012 12:11 AM

    The Regular officials do no better then the Scab officials. This game had way to many blunders at the end of the game. If the eagles would of lost this game, it would have been pure robbery….and this is coming from a steeler fan. I like the giants but they deserved to lose tonight.

  24. andrewproughcfe says: Oct 1, 2012 12:13 AM

    Can’t understand why Coughlin doesn’t take one shot at advancing the ball a few yards with third down and 15 seconds left to go? If nothing’s there, throw it away – simple.

    Instead, he sends his guy out to try a field goal that everyone knows he can’t make, and leaves a down in his pocket and time on the clock. Strange. But then, Coughlin has always been WAYYYY unconventional, just like his qb. Guess it works for him…

  25. 6kings says: Oct 1, 2012 12:14 AM

    The refs blew both of the last two interference calls. Not a word about it?

  26. dylanssongwriter says: Oct 1, 2012 12:14 AM

    why did eli even throw that pass to Barden? you only needed 3 pts to win dumb arse….

  27. 6kings says: Oct 1, 2012 12:15 AM

    The refs also blew the Green Bay game. Lucky for the Packers, they didn’t lose another one over it.

  28. darealmccoy88 says: Oct 1, 2012 12:19 AM

    Anyone who honestly thinks that last OPI call was questionable must have been blind and just listening to Collinsworth make a fool of himself. It was possibly the most legitamate call of week 4!

  29. eagles92 says: Oct 1, 2012 12:22 AM

    Questionable opi???? Really out of the three PIs they called that one was the most obvious..

  30. mad55555 says: Oct 1, 2012 12:23 AM

    Actually ramesses was playing peek a boo with aso on the OPI. The philadelphia eagles are selling swamp land in north jersey since they have owned the philadelphia owned NJ ginas for the pass 5 years. they are not 8-1…..they are 9-1

  31. justintuckrule says: Oct 1, 2012 12:32 AM

    Congrats eagles. You are indeed 8-1 last 9 against us. I guess that gets you another turnpike trophy to add to that burgeoning trophy case of yours. Question…is there a pregnant snooki on top of it?

    Live this up now. You’ll still find someway to be 2 games back of us with one to play when we’re resting our regulars week 17. It’s as given as death and taxes.

  32. birdbrainsnj says: Oct 1, 2012 12:32 AM

    Questionable opi???? He tried to rip his head off!!! Are you serious????

  33. gcsuk says: Oct 1, 2012 12:33 AM

    As much as it pains me to say it, good game by the Eagles. Played clean, game definitely wasn’t decided by the officials. Typical Eagles win over the Giants, in that the Giants just can’t seem to stop McCoy. Maybe for a little while, but he always seems to break free.
    And benh999, that was the most obvious OPI I’ve ever seen. I’m a Giants fan, and I would have called it. Be real.

  34. sb50 says: Oct 1, 2012 12:33 AM

    im a dedicated eagles for life and i have to say, this was one of the most nerve racking games ive seen in awhile. i reallyy think i almost had a heart attack

    a win is a win

  35. scutzi128 says: Oct 1, 2012 12:34 AM

    I assume we are not going to hold the regular refs to the same standards we held the replacements to and note the questionable OPI that knocked the Giants out of FG range.

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    First of all there was nothing questionable about that call but what was questionable was that defensive pi that put them in fg range.

  36. nyg4life says: Oct 1, 2012 12:34 AM

    FYI do you know who leads the league in Super Bowl MVP’s and Superbowl championships since 2007? Eli Manning

  37. kleahy82486 says: Oct 1, 2012 12:37 AM

    questionable OPI are you serious barden tried to tackle nnamdi by his neck

  38. 4d9erdynasty says: Oct 1, 2012 12:50 AM

    Why the giants are throwing 20 to 25 yards down the field when they need a FG to win, beats me. Throw the ball 5 to 10 yards down the field spike the ball and kick the game winning FG. The funny thing is they missed the FG by 5 yards.

  39. Mr. Wright 212 says: Oct 1, 2012 12:50 AM

    You do not call offensive pass interference unless the offensive player is gaining an unfair advantage in order to get the ball ahead of the defender. Period.

    Nevertheless, Umenyiora and Tuck acting as if this was the first time they’ve played against McCoy, when he cuts back on 2/3 of ALL of his runs (if they even needed to watch film, they would know this REGARDLESS), and giving up the edge the entire second half is what killed an otherwise solid defensive effort. Not having Nicks is no excuse, because it did change the way the Giants attacked the Eagles’ secondary (which they own). Guys have to make plays and Beatty and Boothe was absolutely HORRID tonight. So was Baas. Only Locklear played well, and Snee was so-so, as he was beaten across his face SEVERAL TIMES BY A ROOKIE.

  40. gmen5280 says: Oct 1, 2012 12:50 AM

    Well, you can’t win them all.

    But that last PI call should have been on both players, off setting. I thought these were the good refs.

    Don’t worry, it’s the Eagles, with Vick and Reid they have no chance of wining a Super Bowl. And isn’t that how all organizations are measured?

  41. bluemonstaz says: Oct 1, 2012 12:50 AM

    Agreed Ben that should of been offsetting penalties but its ok well be back n the Egirls luck will run out verry soon.

  42. markbul says: Oct 1, 2012 12:50 AM

    Eli is what Tebow would be if he was any good as a passer. Cause you to fall behind, and then (sometimes) save the game.

  43. Mr. Wright 212 says: Oct 1, 2012 12:51 AM

    geniusfan says: Sep 30, 2012 11:59 PM

    The Eagles own the Giants. They are 8-1 in their last nine against them. This was a great win for the Eagles, sending the Giants to 0-2 in the division is big.

    Fly Eagles fly!!!!
    ————–
    What is the Eagles’ postseason/Super Bowl record? No one cares about regular season wins unless you got them on the way to a title. Brag all you want, no one in the NFL but Eagles fans care.

  44. drew05 says: Oct 1, 2012 12:51 AM

    Still real early…so I expect the G-men to make a run, as per usual.

    The Eagles have now beaten the Ravens and the Giants…yet are not a “physical football team?” Probably the most “physical football teams” in the league.

    And top 5 in all “power polls.”

    Are the Eagles now one of the worst 3-1 teams in recent history?

  45. stanklepoot says: Oct 1, 2012 12:52 AM

    benh999 says: Sep 30, 2012 11:59 PM

    I assume we are not going to hold the regular refs to the same standards we held the replacements to and note the questionable OPI that knocked the Giants out of FG range.
    ________________________________
    You mean the one where Barden began by grabbing Asomugha by both shoulders and pulling him backwards, and transitioned to grabbing onto his helmet and yanking his head back? That must be the “questionable” OPI you’re talking about. It’s simple really, Barden made a huge mistake. Asomugha was boxing him out and directing Barden out of bounds. Barden, desperate to make a play, did the one thing he simply could not do. He committed a penalty and (as it turned out) moved his team back out of field goal range. Had Barden not committed that penalty, Tynes likely would have made that FG.

    The way I see it, both teams played hard, but only one team could win. After all the turnover problems the Eagles have had, that was ironically what won the game for them. The Eagles didn’t turn the ball over, and Eli threw a red zone INT. Very happy the Eagles got this win, but the Giants are far from out of this thing, and the next game they play should be just as exciting.

  46. inthearex says: Oct 1, 2012 12:58 AM

    This was the game where it definitely hurt not having nicks. NFC east will come down to these 2 no question.

  47. jayquintana says: Oct 1, 2012 12:58 AM

    Sure the Eagles won tonight, but… Reid coaches not to lose, Coughlin coaches to win. Is there any surprise that Coughlin has two rings and Reid zippo?

    Game should not have been close at all. Eagles should’ve been up by at least 10 points where it not for Reid’s ultra-conservative play calling the red zone.

    Unless some miracle happens and the Eagles win it all this year, it’s time for them to get new leadership next year.

  48. ratbastardshanahandjob says: Oct 1, 2012 1:01 AM

    Eagles might have escaped but at years end they will still be the Lords of no rings…..

  49. situsavaisprier says: Oct 1, 2012 1:11 AM

    Giants fan here, I give the Eagles credit for the win. Giants did have a change to win but certain things I was wondering. Before I begin I have NO excuses.

    1. Eagles and Giants blitzed. Eagles blitzed much more, but more importantly they played bump and run. That gives the blitz more time. For the Giants they blitzed and play off. When you play off you are showing the QB where to throw. Even if Vick had to throw early, the WR already is open thanks to the cushion. Perry Fewell messed up here.

    2. Prior to this game Vick had 75% completion percentage when Giants sent 4 or less people after Vick, when it was 5 or more it was 48%. My question is, why rely so much on the front 4 or 3?

    3. Tynes has been great all year. However his 2nd miss he didn’t kick it good. 54 yard field goal is too far to sacrifice strength for accuracy. Tynes has the leg strength to kick that, he showed it on the 1st miss. Not saying he would make it, but the leg strength would be there. In addition at least the Giants should have tried a sideline route or screen on the side of a multiple WR look.

    Definitely a tough loss on this side and a good victory for the Eagles.

  50. blockedshotnyr says: Oct 1, 2012 1:17 AM

    Not that you guys would have the guts to do it being on the NBC Sports network, but…

    6. Apparently someone at NBC really likes the Giants because they decided to play salsa music on national television to coincide with Victor Cruz’s TD dance.

    That is a total disgrace because that is supposed to be an unbiased and impartial broadcast.

    Whoever did that should be fired. There are plenty of people looking for work in this country that can do that job without blatantly being a jerk on national television…

    And ultimately, that person got what they deserved two Giants missed field goals and an Eagles win.

  51. blockedshotnyr says: Oct 1, 2012 1:20 AM

    I assume we are not going to hold the regular refs to the same standards we held the replacements to and note the questionable OPI that knocked the Giants out of FG range.

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    What a joke – there was a questionable DPI that put them there in the first place and then there was a blatant facepalm and pull which resulted in the OPI…

    Grow a set and complain about something with some merit please…

  52. larrydavidstern says: Oct 1, 2012 1:26 AM

    The fact that Andy Reid tried to “ice” the kicker on a 54 yard field goal, at the absolute last second no less, tells me all I need to know about him. Ridiculous!

  53. somekat says: Oct 1, 2012 1:34 AM

    benh999 says:
    Sep 30, 2012 11:59 PM
    I assume we are not going to hold the regular refs to the same standards we held the replacements to and note the questionable OPI that knocked the Giants out of FG range.

    ____________________

    What was questionable? Should if of been a personal foul?
    The only questionable calls on that last drive were the 2 terrible calls that got the Giants anywhere near FG position in the first place.
    But as I posted above, the refs WERE horrible all game, but the blatant PI on Barden was not even close to being a bad call. He literally bear hugged Namdi, with one hand grabbing his head.

  54. bobonmycob says: Oct 1, 2012 1:55 AM

    Look at all the sad little giants fans. Welcome to the basement of the NFC. It smells a little like the Redskins but it should air out soon.

  55. somekat says: Oct 1, 2012 1:58 AM

    . Eagles and Giants blitzed. Eagles blitzed much more, but more importantly they played bump and run. That gives the blitz more time. For the Giants they blitzed and play off. When you play off you are showing the QB where to throw. Even if Vick had to throw early, the WR already is open thanks to the cushion. Perry Fewell messed up here.

    2. Prior to this game Vick had 75% completion percentage when Giants sent 4 or less people after Vick, when it was 5 or more it was 48%. My question is, why rely so much on the front 4 or 3?

    3. Tynes has been great all year. However his 2nd miss he didn’t kick it good. 54 yard field goal is too far to sacrifice strength for accuracy. Tynes has the leg strength to kick that, he showed it on the 1st miss. Not saying he would make it, but the leg strength would be there. In addition at least the Giants should have tried a sideline route or screen on the side of a multiple WR look.

    _________________
    1, Because the Eagles have solid DB’s, while the Giants DB’s are terrible. If they play bumb and run, Jackson or Maclin will burn them deep, all night. Much like happened to DRC against Cruz on the 4th down play. NOBODY bumbs Jackson without Safety help, you can’t blitz, AND have safety help
    2, Again, back to the DB’s. If they don’t feel their db’s can stick with the Eagles WR’s (and they can’t), then you can’t just keep blitzing, or the Eagles adjust and burn them. The Giants front 4 is one of the best in the NFL, but he back 4 is one of the worst
    3, A screen or an out route that doesn’t get the first (16 yards) or out of bounds ends the game. It’s going to be at maybe 7-8 seconds, you aren’t getting your FG unit out and set up in that time. An out would be just as likely to be a pick as a catch, as the DB would be sitting on it.

  56. Mr. Wright 212 says: Oct 1, 2012 1:58 AM

    tedesco47 says: Oct 1, 2012 12:00 AM

    This game came down to Vick outplaying Eli (yet again).
    How the eagles won this game with their abismal offensive line is shocking.
    Just more proof that this giants team is the worst team to ever win a superbowl…
    ————-

    I’ll never understand why you people try to pull this. You haven’t won one, choked — literally (McNabb) the last time you had a chance, and got blown out worse than anyone had in a Super Bowl in the ONLY OTHER TIME they got there. If the Giants are supposedly the “worst team to ever win a superbowl” (?!?!?!?!) then what does that make Philadelphia ha?

  57. Mr. Wright 212 says: Oct 1, 2012 2:03 AM

    tedesco47 says: Oct 1, 2012 12:00 AM

    This game came down to Vick outplaying Eli (yet again).
    How the eagles won this game with their abismal offensive line is shocking.
    Just more proof that this giants team is the worst team to ever win a superbowl…
    ———–

    And don’t even try to leverage this nonsense into stating that Vick is even in Eli’s LEAGUE, much less “better”.

    Just more proof that the Eagles blow their entire rolls just to get up for the Giants and completely lay eggs — like last week — and when it matters… playoffs… when not playing the Giants.

    Sort of like how the Red Sox are going to attempt to do with the Yankees this week…

  58. randallflagg52 says: Oct 1, 2012 3:05 AM

    Eagles are a joke, I’m not a NY fan at all but any Vick/Reid led team will never find post season success. Enjoy your meaningless wins Philly, your team will run out of luck just like your overpaid underachieving baseball team.

  59. chrisvegas says: Oct 1, 2012 3:16 AM

    The Eagles are a good team and probably a playoff team, so all the haters need to stop making excuses for the Eagles victories. They have played 3 good teams in the first 4 games and are 3-1, so I don’t care how much they won by. A win is a win period. The Eagles called a much better game and Vick didn’t have to do it all. This is how the Eagles need to play going forward if they want to win. Eagles get in trouble when Andy Reid comes out of the gates trying to throw bombs every play. I like the running and the short yardage passes. How far they go to me depends on Andy Reid and whether he sticks to a balanced attack.

  60. fmwarner says: Oct 1, 2012 3:49 AM

    Props to the couple of classy Giants fans who have commented. Don’t know what to say about the others.

    I can’t believe that some people think the OPI against Barden was questionable. Did you not see him try to pull Nnamdi down by his head? The only things questionable were the PI penalties that got the Giants near field goal range on that drive.

  61. eagleswin says: Oct 1, 2012 5:55 AM

    somekat says:
    Oct 1, 2012 1:34 AM

    What was questionable? Should if of been a personal foul?
    The only questionable calls on that last drive were the 2 terrible calls that got the Giants anywhere near FG position in the first place.
    But as I posted above, the refs WERE horrible all game, but the blatant PI on Barden was not even close to being a bad call. He literally bear hugged Namdi, with one hand grabbing his head.

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    Al Michaels was funny at the end of the game when Collingsworth was commenting at the refs. Collingsworth joked about the Eagles wishing the replacement refs were back because of all the PIs called on the eagles that last drive for the giants. Michaels defended the regular refs. Then came the phantom call that put the Giants in FG range. Collingsworth said he wouldn’t have called that and Al Michaels just bit his tongue and refused to acknowledge that comment.

    He is such a hypocrite. He’s like Gruden. Won’t say a negative word about the union officials no matter what. They only criticize when they feel safe.

  62. alalbertsshowcase says: Oct 1, 2012 6:03 AM

    Of course barden interfered on that play, he had to or the pass would be intercepted

  63. rockthered1286 says: Oct 1, 2012 6:42 AM

    While they got the win, I must note NA finally got a taste of the real refs calling an actual PI against him when he earned it. Several times. Look for that trend to continue.

  64. schuckme says: Oct 1, 2012 6:57 AM

    kno whats funny? Last 9 games between the two teams:

    Eagles- 8 Giants-1 = Ownage

    Yes the giants have two rings but i guarantee they wouldnt if the Eagles had anything to say about it if they met them in the playoffs, so between the two teams in recent overall history the Eagles own the Giants theyre the Eagles bitches and Philly continues to slap em around silly

  65. nitro276 says: Oct 1, 2012 7:11 AM

    On Brian Dawkins night, it was in the air. The Eagles had to have that game. That’s why Tynes 54-yard re-try was dead on and one yard short. 20 lives forever and would still play safety better than the current tandem we have.

  66. kev86 says: Oct 1, 2012 7:33 AM

    I thought as a whole the Giants played a little better than the Eagles but losing the turnover battle 1-0 was the difference. Some second guessing on play selection will be made too. Good game. Eagles fans shouldn’t be pounding their chests for escaping defeat. Philly was playing not to lose and barely squeaked it out.

  67. chalkruz1989 says: Oct 1, 2012 7:52 AM

    As a New York Giants fan that game was definitely a tough pill to swallow but so be it, both teams fought hard and they’ll meet again. Unfortunately, the Giants defensive ends were unable to hold contain for LeSean McCoy and Mike Vick and the Eli Manning interception was crushing…But, can we please do away with the icing the kicker junk? Andy Reid shouldn’t have been granted the timeout considering the ball was snapped before he signaled timeout. It’s a waste of time and pointless delay tactic.

  68. ace8842 says: Oct 1, 2012 8:13 AM

    Eagles deserved to win. However, they can’t settle for FG’s in the red zone so much. Kurt Coleman has to not bite on play fakes so much either, and the Eagles special teams kickoff coverage unit was pathetic. The defense saved the game.

  69. eaglesw00t says: Oct 1, 2012 8:14 AM

    6. The Eagles kickoff coverage is embarrassing. And Henery needs to work on his leg strength or something if he is barely kicking it into the end zone with the extra 5 yards.

    Lets not complain about the OPI penalty. The drive should have been over already. It felt as if someone was really rooting for the Giants there. Walking them down the field with questionable penalties, and playing salsa music on a supposedly unbiased network is just ludicrous.

    Boring first half, great second half. I couldnt get to sleep for some time afterwards, and had to be up at 5. Good game to watch.

  70. tarzan86 says: Oct 1, 2012 8:20 AM

    Eagles fans might be the most delusional fans in football. You people wouldnt know a championship team if it slapped you across your greasy faces. You beat the Giants because their kicker has no leg. All this “Eli sucks” nonsnese is an absolute joke. Now Vick is better than Manning but last week you wanted Vicks head. This is why you will never win a Championship, because you people dont deserve one.

  71. greymares says: Oct 1, 2012 9:03 AM

    Mr. Wright 212 , you my freind never seize to amaze me as soon as you apply your fingers to the keyboard your brain must turn to mush (or you don’t really watch a game objectively) with the Eagles missing thir 2 best kick coverage players (jordan,anderson) the Giant kick return game kept them in this game. how can you talk about the Giant offensive line’s poor play without talking about the futile play of your vaunted defensive line against the make shift Eagle Oline. plus please don’t forget without your win last year against the Eagles you dont even make the playoffs. so to render this game as not important makes you look foolish. and by the way you do call the OPI. in that situation just as quickly as you do the DPI that allowed the Giants on that side of the field. It was a typical game between to great rivals and this time the GOOD guys won.

  72. kevpft says: Oct 1, 2012 9:18 AM

    No complaints about that terrible overturning of the call of incomplete pass on the clear bounce-pass that kept an Eagles drive alive? How much more clearly can a ball hit the ground before the call on the field can be upheld?

    As someone mentioned on another story, wrong initial calls are easy to understand – it’s hard to see everything in person. But messing it up on replays? That’s incompetence.

  73. gcsuk says: Oct 1, 2012 9:23 AM

    mad55555 says: Oct 1, 2012 12:23 AM

    Actually ramesses was playing peek a boo with aso on the OPI. The philadelphia eagles are selling swamp land in north jersey since they have owned the philadelphia owned NJ ginas for the pass 5 years. they are not 8-1…..they are 9-1
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    Well, well, well…looks who’s out from under the rock he’s been hiding under since last years “dream team” tanked. I guess now that the eagles beat the Giants (yes, again), you’re going to puff your chest out pridefully, pretending that you’ve been backing “your team” all along.

    You’ve been MIA since last November, dude. Turned tail and ran when the Eagles spit the bit last year. Your true colors have been shown, mad, and they are NOT green and white. They’re yellow.

  74. realitypolice says: Oct 1, 2012 9:50 AM

    I understand that the Giant defensive philosophy is to try and get pressure rushing 4.

    But I think they did Vick a tremendous favor yesterday by not pressuring him with more blitzes. Yes, he will occasionally burn you with his feet when you blitz, but he also tends to turn the ball over much more often when he is under pressure.

  75. ernie ernie says: Oct 1, 2012 11:17 AM

    Personally if I were a kicker I would love the opposing team to call a timeout. Gives me more time to study the shot and plan.
    The worst case is running onto the field and having to line up quickly and giving it a try. Please call a timeout and save me.
    I would never call a timeout if I was a coach.

  76. blu4l1fe says: Oct 1, 2012 11:32 AM

    It was a hard fought game for both teams and well deserved win for the Eagles. No excuses for the Giants, in the end they were outplayed.

  77. situsavaisprier says: Oct 1, 2012 11:55 AM

    1, Because the Eagles have solid DB’s, while the Giants DB’s are terrible. If they play bumb and run, Jackson or Maclin will burn them deep, all night. Much like happened to DRC against Cruz on the 4th down play. NOBODY bumbs Jackson without Safety help, you can’t blitz, AND have safety help
    2, Again, back to the DB’s. If they don’t feel their db’s can stick with the Eagles WR’s (and they can’t), then you can’t just keep blitzing, or the Eagles adjust and burn them. The Giants front 4 is one of the best in the NFL, but he back 4 is one of the worst
    3, A screen or an out route that doesn’t get the first (16 yards) or out of bounds ends the game. It’s going to be at maybe 7-8 seconds, you aren’t getting your FG unit out and set up in that time. An out would be just as likely to be a pick as a catch, as the DB would be sitting on it.

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    1. With all due respect the Giants DB’s are decimated, but they are not terrible. In fact these DB’s are better suited for bump and run than the ones that Steve Spagnuolo had in his tenure here, and he still implemented a press coverage system. You can get beat in any coverage, but with a cushion you are simply allowing it to happen. When you cover a faster quicker guy you never give the guy a cushion. He will make you look silly. You bump him and help out the blitz, if you choose to blitz.

    And yes, you can blitz and have safety help. For instance if the Eagles have 3 WR’s and a TE and a back there in case Giants blitz, Giants can have Nickel personnel and have one of the LB’s there blitz, while the other would cover the TE. The 3 CB’s can bump the WR’s and the safeties can still give help on top. It is possible to do that. It’s risky but sometimes you have to take risks when things aren’t working, what do you have to lose? Let Jackson and Maclin run without a free release and beat you anyway, or at least try to disrupt their timing? For me if I’m a CB and I’m playing off and the guy is abusing me, I won’t continue to play off. I would try something else like bump and run. Even if he still beats me, I wouldn’t be thinking about coulda shoulda woulda.

    2. Like I said earlier, why give the faster guys a clean release and have them run at full speed when you aren’t even out of your back pedal? In 2012 the Giants played the WR’s more physical, especially the 1st 3 quarters of that comeback. What happened to the Eagles offense? The Giants attacked them and were physical with pretty much similar personnel. Better to be even a little speed bump to Jackson and Maclin, then nothing at all.

    It amazes me about the perception of the Giants front four. The Giants front four is not the best front four, why do people constantly say that? Many people act like the Giants d-line can’t be stopped, when that is BS. Now, if you say they are among the best talent wise, that’s different. They are not the best, Tuck really is not the same, Osi is simply a speed rusher that doesn play the run well, Kiwanuka is a fine hybrid but not an elite one, and Pierre Paul istremendous. For DT’s Linval Joseph is very strong and stout, Canty is still on the PUP, Marvin Austin has talent but is still learning things as he’s been injured he first 2 years in the league, and the other back-ups aren’t really good. There’s talent, but people need to stop acting like the Giants have guys like Reggie White, Deacon Jones, etc on their line.

    3. True, but if it’s a 54 yard field goal, it isn’t a chip shot. Certain ranges you can sacrifice some power for better accuracy. 54 yards you really can’t. I mentioned that simply for the fact that even if it was simply a 4 yard gain and the guy went out of bounds, that does make a difference.

    You make some good points, but I feel as though there are times you have to take risks.

  78. cow395 says: Oct 1, 2012 12:53 PM

    the middle Pass Interfernce call (2nd) was complete bs i was so angry i missed the 3rd one

  79. Mr. Wright 212 says: Oct 1, 2012 3:28 PM

    Is today february 4 and I missed it? I am completely lost.

  80. Mr. Wright 212 says: Oct 1, 2012 3:29 PM

    Nevertheless, Fewell needs to get away from this soft zone, and playing off all game. Kenny or no Kenny, the pass rush is not getting there in any game, JP is getting doubled and chipped and Tuck has been invisible. Osi gave up the edge all night. Stop with the using Jacquian in deep coverage and blitz him more.

  81. joeyd524 says: Oct 1, 2012 4:19 PM

    3-1 vs 2-2 there 1 game up,the eagles are just squeaking these games out,the law of averages will catch up..see you at the finish line in January..

  82. myvickinabox14 says: Oct 1, 2012 10:20 PM

    Giants fans crack me up. So salty. You have won 2 Super Bowls. And all the credit in the world to you guys. Great job guys!! You are awesome!! Pat yourselves on the back from us “Greasy” Eagles fans. But, last night, the Eagles won the game. And THIS year, you are 0-2 in the NFC East. You guys are doing great tho. Keep your heads up, and Eli is great!

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