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		<title>By: myvickinabox14</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 02:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Giants fans crack me up. So salty. You have won 2 Super Bowls. And all the credit in the world to you guys. Great job guys!! You are awesome!!  Pat yourselves on the back from us &quot;Greasy&quot; Eagles fans. But, last night, the Eagles won the game. And THIS year, you are 0-2 in the NFC East. You guys are doing great tho. Keep your heads up, and Eli is great!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Giants fans crack me up. So salty. You have won 2 Super Bowls. And all the credit in the world to you guys. Great job guys!! You are awesome!!  Pat yourselves on the back from us &#8220;Greasy&#8221; Eagles fans. But, last night, the Eagles won the game. And THIS year, you are 0-2 in the NFC East. You guys are doing great tho. Keep your heads up, and Eli is great!</p>
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		<title>By: joeyd524</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joeyd524]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 20:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[3-1 vs 2-2 there 1 game up,the eagles are just squeaking these games out,the law of averages will catch up..see you at the finish line in January..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3-1 vs 2-2 there 1 game up,the eagles are just squeaking these games out,the law of averages will catch up..see you at the finish line in January..</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Wright 212</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mr. Wright 212]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 19:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nevertheless, Fewell needs to get away from this soft zone, and playing off all game. Kenny or no Kenny, the pass rush is not getting there in any game, JP is getting doubled and chipped and Tuck has been invisible. Osi gave up the edge all night. Stop with the using Jacquian in deep coverage and blitz him more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nevertheless, Fewell needs to get away from this soft zone, and playing off all game. Kenny or no Kenny, the pass rush is not getting there in any game, JP is getting doubled and chipped and Tuck has been invisible. Osi gave up the edge all night. Stop with the using Jacquian in deep coverage and blitz him more.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Wright 212</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mr. Wright 212]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 19:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is today february 4 and I missed it? I am completely lost.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is today february 4 and I missed it? I am completely lost.</p>
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		<title>By: cow395</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cow395]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 16:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the middle Pass Interfernce call (2nd) was complete bs i was so angry i missed the 3rd one]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the middle Pass Interfernce call (2nd) was complete bs i was so angry i missed the 3rd one</p>
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		<title>By: situsavaisprier</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 15:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1, Because the Eagles have solid DB’s, while the Giants DB’s are terrible. If they play bumb and run, Jackson or Maclin will burn them deep, all night. Much like happened to DRC against Cruz on the 4th down play. NOBODY bumbs Jackson without Safety help, you can’t blitz, AND have safety help
2, Again, back to the DB’s. If they don’t feel their db’s can stick with the Eagles WR’s (and they can’t), then you can’t just keep blitzing, or the Eagles adjust and burn them. The Giants front 4 is one of the best in the NFL, but he back 4 is one of the worst
3, A screen or an out route that doesn’t get the first (16 yards) or out of bounds ends the game. It’s going to be at maybe 7-8 seconds, you aren’t getting your FG unit out and set up in that time. An out would be just as likely to be a pick as a catch, as the DB would be sitting on it.

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1. With all due respect the Giants DB&#039;s are decimated, but they are not terrible. In fact these DB&#039;s are better suited for bump and run than the ones that Steve Spagnuolo had in his tenure here, and he still implemented a press coverage system.  You can get beat in any coverage, but with a cushion you are simply allowing it to happen. When you cover a faster quicker guy you never give the guy a cushion. He will make you look silly. You bump him and help out the blitz, if you choose to blitz. 

And yes, you can blitz and have safety help. For instance if the Eagles have 3 WR&#039;s and a TE and a back there in case Giants blitz, Giants can have Nickel personnel and have one of the LB&#039;s there blitz, while the other would cover the TE. The 3 CB&#039;s can bump the WR&#039;s and the safeties can still give help on top. It is possible to do that. It&#039;s risky but sometimes you have to take risks when things aren&#039;t working, what do you have to lose? Let Jackson and Maclin run without a free release and beat you anyway, or at least try to disrupt their timing? For me if I&#039;m a CB and I&#039;m playing off and the guy is abusing me, I won&#039;t continue to play off. I would try something else like bump and run. Even if he still beats me, I wouldn&#039;t be thinking about coulda shoulda woulda.

2. Like I said earlier, why give the faster guys a clean release and have them run at full speed when you aren&#039;t even out of your back pedal? In 2012 the Giants played the WR&#039;s more physical, especially the 1st 3 quarters of that comeback. What happened to the Eagles offense? The Giants attacked them and were physical with pretty much similar personnel. Better to be even a little speed bump to Jackson and Maclin, then nothing at all. 

It amazes me about the perception of the Giants front four. The Giants front four is not the best front four, why do people constantly say that? Many people act like the Giants d-line can&#039;t be stopped, when that is BS. Now, if you say they are among the best talent wise, that&#039;s different. They are not the best, Tuck really is not the same, Osi is simply a speed rusher that doesn play the run well, Kiwanuka is a fine hybrid but not an elite one, and Pierre Paul istremendous. For DT&#039;s Linval Joseph is very strong and stout, Canty is still on the PUP, Marvin Austin has talent but is still learning things as he&#039;s been injured he first 2 years in the league, and the other back-ups aren&#039;t really good. There&#039;s talent, but people need to stop acting like the Giants have guys like Reggie White, Deacon Jones, etc on their line.

3. True, but if it&#039;s a 54 yard field goal, it isn&#039;t a chip shot. Certain ranges you can sacrifice some power for better accuracy. 54 yards you really can&#039;t. I mentioned that simply for the fact that even if it was simply a 4 yard gain and the guy went out of bounds, that does make a difference. 

You make some good points, but I feel as though there are times you have to take risks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1, Because the Eagles have solid DB’s, while the Giants DB’s are terrible. If they play bumb and run, Jackson or Maclin will burn them deep, all night. Much like happened to DRC against Cruz on the 4th down play. NOBODY bumbs Jackson without Safety help, you can’t blitz, AND have safety help<br />
2, Again, back to the DB’s. If they don’t feel their db’s can stick with the Eagles WR’s (and they can’t), then you can’t just keep blitzing, or the Eagles adjust and burn them. The Giants front 4 is one of the best in the NFL, but he back 4 is one of the worst<br />
3, A screen or an out route that doesn’t get the first (16 yards) or out of bounds ends the game. It’s going to be at maybe 7-8 seconds, you aren’t getting your FG unit out and set up in that time. An out would be just as likely to be a pick as a catch, as the DB would be sitting on it.</p>
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<p>1. With all due respect the Giants DB&#8217;s are decimated, but they are not terrible. In fact these DB&#8217;s are better suited for bump and run than the ones that Steve Spagnuolo had in his tenure here, and he still implemented a press coverage system.  You can get beat in any coverage, but with a cushion you are simply allowing it to happen. When you cover a faster quicker guy you never give the guy a cushion. He will make you look silly. You bump him and help out the blitz, if you choose to blitz. </p>
<p>And yes, you can blitz and have safety help. For instance if the Eagles have 3 WR&#8217;s and a TE and a back there in case Giants blitz, Giants can have Nickel personnel and have one of the LB&#8217;s there blitz, while the other would cover the TE. The 3 CB&#8217;s can bump the WR&#8217;s and the safeties can still give help on top. It is possible to do that. It&#8217;s risky but sometimes you have to take risks when things aren&#8217;t working, what do you have to lose? Let Jackson and Maclin run without a free release and beat you anyway, or at least try to disrupt their timing? For me if I&#8217;m a CB and I&#8217;m playing off and the guy is abusing me, I won&#8217;t continue to play off. I would try something else like bump and run. Even if he still beats me, I wouldn&#8217;t be thinking about coulda shoulda woulda.</p>
<p>2. Like I said earlier, why give the faster guys a clean release and have them run at full speed when you aren&#8217;t even out of your back pedal? In 2012 the Giants played the WR&#8217;s more physical, especially the 1st 3 quarters of that comeback. What happened to the Eagles offense? The Giants attacked them and were physical with pretty much similar personnel. Better to be even a little speed bump to Jackson and Maclin, then nothing at all. </p>
<p>It amazes me about the perception of the Giants front four. The Giants front four is not the best front four, why do people constantly say that? Many people act like the Giants d-line can&#8217;t be stopped, when that is BS. Now, if you say they are among the best talent wise, that&#8217;s different. They are not the best, Tuck really is not the same, Osi is simply a speed rusher that doesn play the run well, Kiwanuka is a fine hybrid but not an elite one, and Pierre Paul istremendous. For DT&#8217;s Linval Joseph is very strong and stout, Canty is still on the PUP, Marvin Austin has talent but is still learning things as he&#8217;s been injured he first 2 years in the league, and the other back-ups aren&#8217;t really good. There&#8217;s talent, but people need to stop acting like the Giants have guys like Reggie White, Deacon Jones, etc on their line.</p>
<p>3. True, but if it&#8217;s a 54 yard field goal, it isn&#8217;t a chip shot. Certain ranges you can sacrifice some power for better accuracy. 54 yards you really can&#8217;t. I mentioned that simply for the fact that even if it was simply a 4 yard gain and the guy went out of bounds, that does make a difference. </p>
<p>You make some good points, but I feel as though there are times you have to take risks.</p>
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		<title>By: blu4l1fe</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 15:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It was a hard fought game for both teams and well deserved win for the Eagles.  No excuses for the Giants, in the end they were outplayed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a hard fought game for both teams and well deserved win for the Eagles.  No excuses for the Giants, in the end they were outplayed.</p>
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		<title>By: ernie ernie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ernie ernie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 15:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Personally if I were a kicker I would love the opposing team to call a timeout. Gives me more time to study the shot and plan.
The worst case is running onto the field and having to line up quickly and giving it a try. Please call a timeout and save me.
I would never call a timeout if I was a coach.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally if I were a kicker I would love the opposing team to call a timeout. Gives me more time to study the shot and plan.<br />
The worst case is running onto the field and having to line up quickly and giving it a try. Please call a timeout and save me.<br />
I would never call a timeout if I was a coach.</p>
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		<title>By: realitypolice</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[realitypolice]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 13:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I understand that the Giant defensive philosophy is to try and get pressure rushing 4.  

But I think they did Vick a tremendous favor yesterday by not pressuring him with more blitzes.  Yes, he will occasionally burn you with his feet when you blitz, but he also tends to turn the ball over much more often when he is under pressure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand that the Giant defensive philosophy is to try and get pressure rushing 4.  </p>
<p>But I think they did Vick a tremendous favor yesterday by not pressuring him with more blitzes.  Yes, he will occasionally burn you with his feet when you blitz, but he also tends to turn the ball over much more often when he is under pressure.</p>
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		<title>By: gcsuk</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 13:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mad55555 says:  Oct 1, 2012 12:23 AM

Actually ramesses was playing peek a boo with aso on the OPI. The philadelphia eagles are selling swamp land in north jersey since they have owned the philadelphia owned NJ ginas for the pass 5 years. they are not 8-1…..they are 9-1
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Well, well, well...looks who&#039;s out from under the rock he&#039;s been hiding under since last years &quot;dream team&quot; tanked. I guess now that the eagles beat the Giants (yes, again), you&#039;re going to puff your chest out pridefully, pretending that you&#039;ve been backing &quot;your team&quot; all along.

You&#039;ve been MIA since last November, dude. Turned tail and ran when the Eagles spit the bit last year. Your true colors have been shown, mad, and they are NOT green and white. They&#039;re yellow.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mad55555 says:  Oct 1, 2012 12:23 AM</p>
<p>Actually ramesses was playing peek a boo with aso on the OPI. The philadelphia eagles are selling swamp land in north jersey since they have owned the philadelphia owned NJ ginas for the pass 5 years. they are not 8-1…..they are 9-1<br />
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<p>Well, well, well&#8230;looks who&#8217;s out from under the rock he&#8217;s been hiding under since last years &#8220;dream team&#8221; tanked. I guess now that the eagles beat the Giants (yes, again), you&#8217;re going to puff your chest out pridefully, pretending that you&#8217;ve been backing &#8220;your team&#8221; all along.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve been MIA since last November, dude. Turned tail and ran when the Eagles spit the bit last year. Your true colors have been shown, mad, and they are NOT green and white. They&#8217;re yellow.</p>
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		<title>By: kevpft</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 13:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No complaints about that terrible overturning of the call of incomplete pass on the clear bounce-pass that kept an Eagles drive alive? How much more clearly can a ball hit the ground before the call on the field can be upheld?

As someone mentioned on another story, wrong initial calls are easy to understand - it&#039;s hard to see everything in person. But messing it up on replays? That&#039;s incompetence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No complaints about that terrible overturning of the call of incomplete pass on the clear bounce-pass that kept an Eagles drive alive? How much more clearly can a ball hit the ground before the call on the field can be upheld?</p>
<p>As someone mentioned on another story, wrong initial calls are easy to understand &#8211; it&#8217;s hard to see everything in person. But messing it up on replays? That&#8217;s incompetence.</p>
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		<title>By: greymares</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[greymares]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 13:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr. Wright 212 , you my freind never seize to amaze me as soon as you apply your fingers to the keyboard your brain must turn to mush (or you don&#039;t really watch a game objectively) with the Eagles missing thir 2 best kick coverage players (jordan,anderson) the Giant kick return game kept them in this game. how can you talk about the Giant offensive line&#039;s poor play without talking about the futile play of your vaunted defensive line against the make shift Eagle Oline. plus please don&#039;t forget without your win last year against the Eagles you dont even make the playoffs. so to render this game as not important makes you look foolish. and by the way you do call the OPI. in that situation just as quickly as you do the DPI that allowed the Giants on that side of the field. It was a typical game between to great rivals and this time the GOOD  guys won.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Wright 212 , you my freind never seize to amaze me as soon as you apply your fingers to the keyboard your brain must turn to mush (or you don&#8217;t really watch a game objectively) with the Eagles missing thir 2 best kick coverage players (jordan,anderson) the Giant kick return game kept them in this game. how can you talk about the Giant offensive line&#8217;s poor play without talking about the futile play of your vaunted defensive line against the make shift Eagle Oline. plus please don&#8217;t forget without your win last year against the Eagles you dont even make the playoffs. so to render this game as not important makes you look foolish. and by the way you do call the OPI. in that situation just as quickly as you do the DPI that allowed the Giants on that side of the field. It was a typical game between to great rivals and this time the GOOD  guys won.</p>
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		<title>By: tarzan86</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tarzan86]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 12:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eagles fans might be the most delusional fans in football. You people wouldnt know a championship team if it slapped you across your greasy faces. You beat the Giants because their kicker has no leg. All this &quot;Eli sucks&quot; nonsnese is an absolute joke. Now Vick is better than Manning but last week you wanted Vicks head. This is why you will never win a Championship, because you people dont deserve one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eagles fans might be the most delusional fans in football. You people wouldnt know a championship team if it slapped you across your greasy faces. You beat the Giants because their kicker has no leg. All this &#8220;Eli sucks&#8221; nonsnese is an absolute joke. Now Vick is better than Manning but last week you wanted Vicks head. This is why you will never win a Championship, because you people dont deserve one.</p>
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		<title>By: eaglesw00t</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 12:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[6.  The Eagles kickoff coverage is embarrassing.  And Henery needs to work on his leg strength or something if he is barely kicking it into the end zone with the extra 5 yards.



Lets not complain about the OPI penalty.  The drive should have been over already.  It felt as if someone was really rooting for the Giants there.  Walking them down the field with questionable penalties, and playing salsa music on a supposedly unbiased network is just ludicrous.

Boring first half, great second half.  I couldnt get to sleep for some time afterwards, and had to be up at 5.  Good game to watch.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>6.  The Eagles kickoff coverage is embarrassing.  And Henery needs to work on his leg strength or something if he is barely kicking it into the end zone with the extra 5 yards.</p>
<p>Lets not complain about the OPI penalty.  The drive should have been over already.  It felt as if someone was really rooting for the Giants there.  Walking them down the field with questionable penalties, and playing salsa music on a supposedly unbiased network is just ludicrous.</p>
<p>Boring first half, great second half.  I couldnt get to sleep for some time afterwards, and had to be up at 5.  Good game to watch.</p>
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		<title>By: ace8842</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 12:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eagles deserved to win.  However, they can&#039;t settle for FG&#039;s in the red zone so much.   Kurt Coleman has to not bite on play fakes so much either, and the Eagles special teams kickoff coverage unit was pathetic.  The defense saved the game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eagles deserved to win.  However, they can&#8217;t settle for FG&#8217;s in the red zone so much.   Kurt Coleman has to not bite on play fakes so much either, and the Eagles special teams kickoff coverage unit was pathetic.  The defense saved the game.</p>
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		<title>By: chalkruz1989</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 11:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a New York Giants fan that game was definitely a tough pill to swallow but so be it, both teams fought hard and they&#039;ll meet again. Unfortunately, the Giants defensive ends were unable to hold contain for LeSean McCoy and Mike Vick and the Eli Manning interception was crushing...But, can we please do away with the icing the kicker junk? Andy Reid shouldn&#039;t have been granted the timeout considering the ball was snapped before he signaled timeout. It&#039;s a waste of time and pointless delay tactic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a New York Giants fan that game was definitely a tough pill to swallow but so be it, both teams fought hard and they&#8217;ll meet again. Unfortunately, the Giants defensive ends were unable to hold contain for LeSean McCoy and Mike Vick and the Eli Manning interception was crushing&#8230;But, can we please do away with the icing the kicker junk? Andy Reid shouldn&#8217;t have been granted the timeout considering the ball was snapped before he signaled timeout. It&#8217;s a waste of time and pointless delay tactic.</p>
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		<title>By: kev86</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 11:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought as a whole the Giants played a little better than the Eagles but losing the turnover battle 1-0 was the difference. Some second guessing on play selection will be made too. Good game. Eagles fans shouldn&#039;t be pounding their chests for escaping defeat. Philly was playing not to lose and barely squeaked it out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought as a whole the Giants played a little better than the Eagles but losing the turnover battle 1-0 was the difference. Some second guessing on play selection will be made too. Good game. Eagles fans shouldn&#8217;t be pounding their chests for escaping defeat. Philly was playing not to lose and barely squeaked it out.</p>
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		<title>By: nitro276</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 11:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On Brian Dawkins night, it was in the air.  The Eagles had to have that game.  That&#039;s why Tynes 54-yard re-try was dead on and one yard short.  20 lives forever and would still play safety better than the current tandem we have.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Brian Dawkins night, it was in the air.  The Eagles had to have that game.  That&#8217;s why Tynes 54-yard re-try was dead on and one yard short.  20 lives forever and would still play safety better than the current tandem we have.</p>
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		<title>By: schuckme</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 10:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[kno whats funny? Last 9 games between the two teams:

Eagles- 8 Giants-1 = Ownage 

Yes the giants have two rings but i guarantee they wouldnt if the Eagles had anything to say about it if they met them in the playoffs, so between the two teams in recent overall history the Eagles own the Giants theyre the Eagles bitches and Philly continues to slap em around silly]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kno whats funny? Last 9 games between the two teams:</p>
<p>Eagles- 8 Giants-1 = Ownage </p>
<p>Yes the giants have two rings but i guarantee they wouldnt if the Eagles had anything to say about it if they met them in the playoffs, so between the two teams in recent overall history the Eagles own the Giants theyre the Eagles bitches and Philly continues to slap em around silly</p>
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		<title>By: rockthered1286</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 10:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While they got the win, I must note NA finally got a taste of the real refs calling an actual PI against him when he earned it. Several times. Look for that trend to continue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While they got the win, I must note NA finally got a taste of the real refs calling an actual PI against him when he earned it. Several times. Look for that trend to continue.</p>
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		<title>By: alalbertsshowcase</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 10:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course barden interfered on that play, he had to or the pass would be intercepted]]></description>
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		<title>By: eagleswin</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 09:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[somekat says:
Oct 1, 2012 1:34 AM

What was questionable? Should if of been a personal foul?
The only questionable calls on that last drive were the 2 terrible calls that got the Giants anywhere near FG position in the first place.
But as I posted above, the refs WERE horrible all game, but the blatant PI on Barden was not even close to being a bad call. He literally bear hugged Namdi, with one hand grabbing his head.

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Al Michaels was funny at the end of the game when Collingsworth was commenting at the refs.    Collingsworth joked about the Eagles wishing the replacement refs were back because of all the PIs called on the eagles that last drive for the giants.  Michaels defended the regular refs.  Then came the phantom call that put the Giants in FG range.  Collingsworth said he wouldn&#039;t have called that and Al Michaels just bit his tongue and refused to acknowledge that comment.

He is such a hypocrite.  He&#039;s like Gruden.  Won&#039;t say a negative word about the union officials no matter what.  They only criticize when they feel safe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>somekat says:<br />
Oct 1, 2012 1:34 AM</p>
<p>What was questionable? Should if of been a personal foul?<br />
The only questionable calls on that last drive were the 2 terrible calls that got the Giants anywhere near FG position in the first place.<br />
But as I posted above, the refs WERE horrible all game, but the blatant PI on Barden was not even close to being a bad call. He literally bear hugged Namdi, with one hand grabbing his head.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Al Michaels was funny at the end of the game when Collingsworth was commenting at the refs.    Collingsworth joked about the Eagles wishing the replacement refs were back because of all the PIs called on the eagles that last drive for the giants.  Michaels defended the regular refs.  Then came the phantom call that put the Giants in FG range.  Collingsworth said he wouldn&#8217;t have called that and Al Michaels just bit his tongue and refused to acknowledge that comment.</p>
<p>He is such a hypocrite.  He&#8217;s like Gruden.  Won&#8217;t say a negative word about the union officials no matter what.  They only criticize when they feel safe.</p>
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		<title>By: fmwarner</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 07:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Props to the couple of classy Giants fans who have commented.  Don&#039;t know what to say about the others.

I can&#039;t believe that some people think the OPI against Barden was questionable.  Did you not see him try to pull Nnamdi down by his head?  The only things questionable were the PI penalties that got the Giants near field goal range on that drive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Props to the couple of classy Giants fans who have commented.  Don&#8217;t know what to say about the others.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t believe that some people think the OPI against Barden was questionable.  Did you not see him try to pull Nnamdi down by his head?  The only things questionable were the PI penalties that got the Giants near field goal range on that drive.</p>
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		<title>By: chrisvegas</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 07:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Eagles are a good team and probably a playoff team, so all the haters need to stop making excuses for the Eagles victories. They have played 3 good teams in the first 4 games and are 3-1, so I don&#039;t care how much they won by. A win is a win period. The Eagles called a much better game and Vick didn&#039;t have to do it all. This is how the Eagles need to play going forward if they want to win. Eagles get in trouble when Andy Reid comes out of the gates trying to throw bombs every play. I like the running and the short yardage passes. How far they go to me depends on Andy Reid and whether he sticks to a balanced attack.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Eagles are a good team and probably a playoff team, so all the haters need to stop making excuses for the Eagles victories. They have played 3 good teams in the first 4 games and are 3-1, so I don&#8217;t care how much they won by. A win is a win period. The Eagles called a much better game and Vick didn&#8217;t have to do it all. This is how the Eagles need to play going forward if they want to win. Eagles get in trouble when Andy Reid comes out of the gates trying to throw bombs every play. I like the running and the short yardage passes. How far they go to me depends on Andy Reid and whether he sticks to a balanced attack.</p>
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		<title>By: randallflagg52</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 07:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eagles are a joke, I&#039;m not a NY fan at all but any Vick/Reid led team will never find post season success. Enjoy your meaningless wins Philly, your team will run out of luck just like your overpaid underachieving baseball team.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eagles are a joke, I&#8217;m not a NY fan at all but any Vick/Reid led team will never find post season success. Enjoy your meaningless wins Philly, your team will run out of luck just like your overpaid underachieving baseball team.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Wright 212</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 06:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[tedesco47 says: Oct 1, 2012 12:00 AM

This game came down to Vick outplaying Eli (yet again).
How the eagles won this game with their abismal offensive line is shocking.
Just more proof that this giants team is the worst team to ever win a superbowl…
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And don&#039;t even try to leverage this nonsense into stating that Vick is even in Eli&#039;s LEAGUE, much less &quot;better&quot;. 

Just more proof that the Eagles blow their entire rolls just to get up for the Giants and completely lay eggs -- like last week -- and when it matters... playoffs... when not playing the Giants.

Sort of like how the Red Sox are going to attempt to do with the Yankees this week...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tedesco47 says: Oct 1, 2012 12:00 AM</p>
<p>This game came down to Vick outplaying Eli (yet again).<br />
How the eagles won this game with their abismal offensive line is shocking.<br />
Just more proof that this giants team is the worst team to ever win a superbowl…<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t even try to leverage this nonsense into stating that Vick is even in Eli&#8217;s LEAGUE, much less &#8220;better&#8221;. </p>
<p>Just more proof that the Eagles blow their entire rolls just to get up for the Giants and completely lay eggs &#8212; like last week &#8212; and when it matters&#8230; playoffs&#8230; when not playing the Giants.</p>
<p>Sort of like how the Red Sox are going to attempt to do with the Yankees this week&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Wright 212</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 05:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[tedesco47 says: Oct 1, 2012 12:00 AM

This game came down to Vick outplaying Eli (yet again).
How the eagles won this game with their abismal offensive line is shocking.
Just more proof that this giants team is the worst team to ever win a superbowl…
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I&#039;ll never understand why you people try to pull this. You haven&#039;t won one, choked -- literally (McNabb) the last time you had a chance, and got blown out worse than anyone had in a Super Bowl in the ONLY OTHER TIME they got there. If the Giants are supposedly the &quot;worst team to ever win a superbowl&quot; (?!?!?!?!) then what does that make Philadelphia ha?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tedesco47 says: Oct 1, 2012 12:00 AM</p>
<p>This game came down to Vick outplaying Eli (yet again).<br />
How the eagles won this game with their abismal offensive line is shocking.<br />
Just more proof that this giants team is the worst team to ever win a superbowl…<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll never understand why you people try to pull this. You haven&#8217;t won one, choked &#8212; literally (McNabb) the last time you had a chance, and got blown out worse than anyone had in a Super Bowl in the ONLY OTHER TIME they got there. If the Giants are supposedly the &#8220;worst team to ever win a superbowl&#8221; (?!?!?!?!) then what does that make Philadelphia ha?</p>
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		<title>By: somekat</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 05:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[. Eagles and Giants blitzed. Eagles blitzed much more, but more importantly they played bump and run. That gives the blitz more time. For the Giants they blitzed and play off. When you play off you are showing the QB where to throw. Even if Vick had to throw early, the WR already is open thanks to the cushion. Perry Fewell messed up here. 

2. Prior to this game Vick had 75% completion percentage when Giants sent 4 or less people after Vick, when it was 5 or more it was 48%. My question is, why rely so much on the front 4 or 3? 

3. Tynes has been great all year. However his 2nd miss he didn’t kick it good. 54 yard field goal is too far to sacrifice strength for accuracy. Tynes has the leg strength to kick that, he showed it on the 1st miss. Not saying he would make it, but the leg strength would be there. In addition at least the Giants should have tried a sideline route or screen on the side of a multiple WR look.

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1, Because the Eagles have solid DB&#039;s, while the Giants DB&#039;s are terrible. If they play bumb and run, Jackson or Maclin will burn them deep, all night. Much like happened to DRC against Cruz on the 4th down play. NOBODY bumbs Jackson without Safety help, you can&#039;t blitz, AND have safety help
2, Again, back to the DB&#039;s. If they don&#039;t feel their db&#039;s can stick with the Eagles WR&#039;s (and they can&#039;t), then you can&#039;t just keep blitzing, or the Eagles adjust and burn them. The Giants front 4 is one of the best in the NFL, but he back 4 is one of the worst
3, A screen or an out route that doesn&#039;t get the first (16 yards) or out of bounds ends the game. It&#039;s going to be at maybe 7-8 seconds, you aren&#039;t getting your FG unit out and set up in that time. An out would be just as likely to be a pick as a catch, as the DB would be sitting on it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>. Eagles and Giants blitzed. Eagles blitzed much more, but more importantly they played bump and run. That gives the blitz more time. For the Giants they blitzed and play off. When you play off you are showing the QB where to throw. Even if Vick had to throw early, the WR already is open thanks to the cushion. Perry Fewell messed up here. </p>
<p>2. Prior to this game Vick had 75% completion percentage when Giants sent 4 or less people after Vick, when it was 5 or more it was 48%. My question is, why rely so much on the front 4 or 3? </p>
<p>3. Tynes has been great all year. However his 2nd miss he didn’t kick it good. 54 yard field goal is too far to sacrifice strength for accuracy. Tynes has the leg strength to kick that, he showed it on the 1st miss. Not saying he would make it, but the leg strength would be there. In addition at least the Giants should have tried a sideline route or screen on the side of a multiple WR look.</p>
<p>_________________<br />
1, Because the Eagles have solid DB&#8217;s, while the Giants DB&#8217;s are terrible. If they play bumb and run, Jackson or Maclin will burn them deep, all night. Much like happened to DRC against Cruz on the 4th down play. NOBODY bumbs Jackson without Safety help, you can&#8217;t blitz, AND have safety help<br />
2, Again, back to the DB&#8217;s. If they don&#8217;t feel their db&#8217;s can stick with the Eagles WR&#8217;s (and they can&#8217;t), then you can&#8217;t just keep blitzing, or the Eagles adjust and burn them. The Giants front 4 is one of the best in the NFL, but he back 4 is one of the worst<br />
3, A screen or an out route that doesn&#8217;t get the first (16 yards) or out of bounds ends the game. It&#8217;s going to be at maybe 7-8 seconds, you aren&#8217;t getting your FG unit out and set up in that time. An out would be just as likely to be a pick as a catch, as the DB would be sitting on it.</p>
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		<title>By: bobonmycob</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 05:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Look at all the sad little giants fans. Welcome to the basement of the NFC. It smells a little like the Redskins but it should air out soon.]]></description>
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		<title>By: somekat</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 05:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[benh999 says: 
Sep 30, 2012 11:59 PM 
I assume we are not going to hold the regular refs to the same standards we held the replacements to and note the questionable OPI that knocked the Giants out of FG range.

____________________

What was questionable? Should if of been a personal foul? 
The only questionable calls on that last drive were the 2 terrible calls that got the Giants anywhere near FG position in the first place.
But as I posted above, the refs WERE horrible all game, but the blatant PI on Barden was not even close to being a bad call. He literally bear hugged Namdi, with one hand grabbing his head.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>benh999 says:<br />
Sep 30, 2012 11:59 PM<br />
I assume we are not going to hold the regular refs to the same standards we held the replacements to and note the questionable OPI that knocked the Giants out of FG range.</p>
<p>____________________</p>
<p>What was questionable? Should if of been a personal foul?<br />
The only questionable calls on that last drive were the 2 terrible calls that got the Giants anywhere near FG position in the first place.<br />
But as I posted above, the refs WERE horrible all game, but the blatant PI on Barden was not even close to being a bad call. He literally bear hugged Namdi, with one hand grabbing his head.</p>
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