Comments on: Reid regrets icing Tynes

By: ordinaryday6

ordinaryday6 — Mon, 01 Oct 2012 20:00:19 +0000

I don’t think that Andy Reid should be fired, but I want the eagles to run the ball. Probably an oxymoronic request.

By: ytsejamer1

ytsejamer1 — Mon, 01 Oct 2012 18:00:55 +0000

Just imagine if the Pats had tried to ice Billy Cundiff last year in the AFC Championship. (I don’t remember who had how many timeouts). It was absolute chaos at that point in the game, guys running on and off the field, Ravens coaches not getting their calls in as quickly, dogs and cats…living together..mass hysteria.

I think it’s better to let the chaos around getting ready for the initial snap be the determining factor. Some kickers have likely come to expect getting “iced”…so they can gather their thoughts and get ready for the real one. If they don’t get a T.O., they’ll likely rush the kick or whatever.

By: dallascowboysdishingthereal

dallascowboysdishingthereal — Mon, 01 Oct 2012 17:36:48 +0000

This icing thing is silly, stupid, annoying and needs to end. If the ball is kicked, no time out!

By: bobzilla1001

bobzilla1001 — Mon, 01 Oct 2012 17:17:02 +0000

Icing the kicker is great stategy. Bill Cowher did it at every opportunity.
I have no idea how often the tactic worked or didn’t work, but I do Cowher retired with a 161-99-1 career record.

By: fmwarner

fmwarner — Mon, 01 Oct 2012 16:57:33 +0000

Only Eagles fans would want the coach of their 3-1 first place team fired.

By: justintuckrule

justintuckrule — Mon, 01 Oct 2012 16:41:08 +0000

Lost in this icing the kicker nonsense is two things. 1) NYG were out of time outs to set up the kick properly; and 2) Reid tried icing a kicker who has made 2 OT NFCCG fgs to send his team to the SB.

Reid did Tynes a favor. His “ice” call is just a small sampling of the bone headed moves Reid has called to prevent a pretty good Eagles team the last 15 years from winning it all.

By: cow395

cow395 — Mon, 01 Oct 2012 16:37:58 +0000

i also went berserk on the 2nd pass interference call, i was so mad i missed the next penalty that helped the eagles

By: profootballpro

profootballpro — Mon, 01 Oct 2012 16:30:59 +0000

How about for a change, we see a coach pretend to ice the kicker by running towards the sideline official trying to get his attention while the kicker is setting up to kick but not actually call the timeout.

By: RexCanCoach

RexCanCoach — Mon, 01 Oct 2012 16:07:00 +0000

Andy, you are more than welcome to come over to coach the New York Jets in 2013 and beyond.

And please bring a new GM along with you.

Signed,
Jets faithful

By: rubicon202

rubicon202 — Mon, 01 Oct 2012 15:53:28 +0000

Icing the kicker is cool its the last second calling of the time out that is not cool. I’ve seen TO’s called before the kick is in progress not the Mike Shanahan TO…but in any event they get paid to kick field goals, that’s it…

By: kenny328usa

kenny328usa — Mon, 01 Oct 2012 15:52:16 +0000

The whole idea of it is stupid. Joe Philbin cost his team the game against cincinnati 2 weeks ago with this stupid practice. And I’m glad he did so other coaches think twice about doing it. I wish it would have gotten more media coverage. Andy is a moron. The risk of giving a pro kicker 2 chances at any field goal by far outweighs the the reward of guessing correctly that he will make the first kick and miss the second. They should ban timeouts from the sidelines on field goals immediately. Kind of a way of protecting the coaches from themselves.

By: greymares

greymares — Mon, 01 Oct 2012 15:49:59 +0000

the rule needs to be adapted to the fact that if you want to call a time-out it has to be before the field goal has set up. the fans need this protection against dumb coaches.

By: 69finfan

69finfan — Mon, 01 Oct 2012 15:01:35 +0000

Dolphin Fan here. We’ve lost the last 2 games in OT on FG’s. We’ve iced or attempted to ice the Kicker both times and it has not worked to our advantage. I have an easy solution, don’t turn the ball over in your own territory and play defense and don’t let the other team in field goal range in the first place then icing or not icing is a mute point.

By: oldbyrd

oldbyrd — Mon, 01 Oct 2012 14:57:50 +0000

It has been proven that it rarely works. Had that field goal been good, it would have been another nail in Reid’s coffin

By: skinsfaninnebraska

skinsfaninnebraska — Mon, 01 Oct 2012 14:51:21 +0000

Coaches just need to stop doing this. It’s stupid and it often backfires. It’s especially stupid when the kick is from 50+ yards out!

By: johnqlunchbox

johnqlunchbox — Mon, 01 Oct 2012 14:41:36 +0000

Yes, PLEASE fire Andy Reid. We’d love to have him here in Cleveland.

You Philadelphia fans can have Pat Shurmur. You’re welcome.

By: jolink653

jolink653 — Mon, 01 Oct 2012 14:16:06 +0000

I don’t understand why people even bother trying to ice the kicker anymore: it NEVER works. You would be so much better off making the kicking team think you’re gonna call a timeout and then never doing it and letting them snap the ball.

By: thefirstsmilergrogan

thefirstsmilergrogan — Mon, 01 Oct 2012 14:16:03 +0000

andy is a planner and a plodder. what he isn’t is light on his mental feet. hell, he iced matt bryant as he tried to run on and make a sixty one yarder in fire drill mode (no t/os left) a few years ago.

while the clock was stopped this time, he just doesn’t learn. the giants took a moment to decide whether to kick last nite and had to hurry on; andy then graciously allowed them time to line up and take their time. he was very lucky tynes fell a yard short.

andy is a great team builder and administrator. he’s also a great leader of men and a very good offensive play designer. he is also great at keeping things on an even keel within the team.

given all that, he is the poorest in-game manager of any successful coach and is frustrating as hell to watch. his mix of offensive plays are almost always extreme, and his goal line play calls defy common sense many times. i wish jeff lurie would kick andy into a joe paterno-type coach emeritus situation. andy is coach and front man and offensive overseer and other people call the plays and run the game…..

By: wrabblewrouser

wrabblewrouser — Mon, 01 Oct 2012 14:03:41 +0000

did somebody ice the refs? the 2 calls – one after the other – that put the giants into position to miss that field twice, were horrendous.

By: icanspeel

icanspeel — Mon, 01 Oct 2012 13:17:48 +0000

Coaches need to stop trying to “Ice” the kicker. Usually it backfires because they are pretty much giving the kicker a free high pressure practice kick.

By: neauxgeaux44

neauxgeaux44 — Mon, 01 Oct 2012 13:13:13 +0000

Little Birdies will never win a SB with Andy…fact….classless organization and fan base…so glad they are perennial losers…lmao…

By: andrewproughcfe

andrewproughcfe — Mon, 01 Oct 2012 13:10:48 +0000

ReidKs mistake doesn’t absolve Coughlin of twice deciding not to try to advance the ball on 3rd down with 15 seconds left to give his kicker half a chance.

By: realdealsteel

realdealsteel — Mon, 01 Oct 2012 13:00:13 +0000

Reid is not an ultimate winner. He’s a modern day Chuck Knox. Sorry.

By: tmac4454

tmac4454 — Mon, 01 Oct 2012 12:57:38 +0000

I was fuming when he called that idiotic time out. What a relief, still sweating over here.

By: knackstermyea

knackstermyea — Mon, 01 Oct 2012 12:56:57 +0000

Typical philly fan. Mad at their coach for winning. Against an NFC East rival no less.

By: mojosmagic

mojosmagic — Mon, 01 Oct 2012 12:51:47 +0000

The only time it makes sense to use it is on a chip shot and this one was over 50. Reid is a great head coach though.

By: eaglesw00t

eaglesw00t — Mon, 01 Oct 2012 12:42:16 +0000

duncanthecat says:
Oct 1, 2012 8:15 AM
Eagles need DB’s like never before. Marginal safeties and slow CB’s will make for a season of close games.

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Slow CBs? The Eagles have 3 CBs who run under a 4.4 40. Marginal safeties yes. Not slow CBs though.

It is the coaching and playcalling, and leaving points on the field that will make games close all year.

By: gallaghedj311

gallaghedj311 — Mon, 01 Oct 2012 12:40:40 +0000

Only dumb Eagles fans want their coach fired after a win. Look to New Orleans to see how important your head coach is to a team. And notice that there aren’t any * next to your coaches name. Fans in New Orleans and New England can’t say that…

By: pspring63

pspring63 — Mon, 01 Oct 2012 12:39:23 +0000

csimms23 says:
Oct 1, 2012 7:57 AM

it’s sad to see, but Andy Reid won’t be the Eagles head coach next year. He’s done a lot over the past decade and some more, but 14 years without a ring?

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I agree, but to keep it in perspective that’s about how long Cowher was in control in Pittsburgh before winning the Super Bowl.

By: Eberwizzle

Eberwizzle — Mon, 01 Oct 2012 12:35:39 +0000

I’m just shocked he still had a time out left to do it