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No bounty ruling, yet

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After Browns linebacker Scott Fujita met with Commissioner Roger Goodell on Friday, completing the process of sitting down with each of the four players whose suspensions were vacated, it was reported that Goodell would re-issue discipline to the players on Monday or Tuesday.

Monday and Tuesday have come and gone, with no decision.

Until a decision is issued, the appeal process can’t begin.  Once the appeal process begins, a hearing will have to be set, presumably on an upcoming Tuesday when all four players can attend.

It has been presumed that Goodell will simply re-issue with different wording the suspensions that an internal appeals panel scuttled on technical grounds in September:  a full season for Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma, eight games for free-agent defensive end Anthony Hargrove, four games for Saints defensive end Will Smith, and three games for Fujita.  There’s a chance that Goodell will choose to go a little lighter, or possibly to reiterate the suspensions and then reduce them via the appeal process, in an effort to show that the system works, even if the guy who made the initial decision also is the one who reviews the decision.

Then there’s the possibility/likelihood of a return to federal court.

Regardless, the bounty cases will continue to hover, barring an unlikely agreement between the players and the league to bury the hatchet, and move on.

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29 Responses to “No bounty ruling, yet”
  1. thestrategyexpert says: Oct 2, 2012 7:00 PM

    Oh I see, Goodell is going to wait and see if the Saints can go 0-6 or so first and then have Vilma agree to a suspension this year so it doesn’t hurt the team and he can save face while posturing like he won.

  2. musicman495 says: Oct 2, 2012 7:01 PM

    Since Goodell has overstepped his evidence, and has already succeeded in torching the Saints season, I think he wants to make this go away. There is also always a chance he could lose in court, or at least have to go through “discovery,” which would be almost as onerous.

    For all these reasons, and to avoid having to bring his own food tester for this year’s Super Bowl, my prediction is that Goodell will reduce the penalties on everyone, including Sean Payton.

  3. booker1974 says: Oct 2, 2012 7:02 PM

    What the hell are you doing, Roger?

  4. marcinhouston says: Oct 2, 2012 7:06 PM

    Goodell is waiting for the Monday following the Saints first win, to maximize the moral damage of the suspensions. It’s not about due process, but rather about Goodell trying to drag out the announcements and delay as much as possible to extend the negative press. That is why Goodell was slow in announcing both the original penalties and the original appeal decisions, he wanted to keep the media talking and speculating for as long as possible to emphasize his alibi narrative on player safety.

  5. jimw81 says: Oct 2, 2012 7:18 PM

    Drew Brees needs an explanation on why Saints haven’t won a game

  6. robert831 says: Oct 2, 2012 7:19 PM

    Suspend all these guys for 3 years for conduct detrimental to the league. The Saints should still be stripped of 3 first round picks, one for each year they cheated! Fine and suspend this team into oblivion and move them to LA. If we could only contract the team…

  7. burkem325 says: Oct 2, 2012 7:20 PM

    That’s still going on?

  8. cwwgk says: Oct 2, 2012 7:23 PM

    If nothing else, the Saints fans who believe Goodell has a personal vendetta against their team have mastered the art of relishing in their perceived victimhood.

  9. mjkelly77 says: Oct 2, 2012 8:05 PM

    … in an effort to show that the system works, even if the guy who made the initial decision also is the one who reviews the decision.
    ______________________

    Hey, it’s all defined by the CBA, by which both the owners and the players agreed to be bound. If there’s a complaint, it should be with the alleged attorney Maurice Smith. He sold out the players by forfeiting too much to gain some short-end chump change in an effort to get himself re-appointed as the executive director of the NFLPA.

    Players, you got snookered by the very guy who should have been looking out for your best interests. And what’s puzzling, you still allow him to remain. Must be the hats.

  10. silentcount says: Oct 2, 2012 8:45 PM

    Bottom line: It still has not been shown as to why Sean Payton deserved to be suspended. Goodell intentionally injured the Saints entire season over nothing. He deserves to be in jail.

  11. ishoulbeagm says: Oct 2, 2012 8:47 PM

    I love the saints, and I love the nfl. I don’t believe Goodell has a vendetta against us but I do believe the whistle blower stretched the truth to say the least. Stop hating on saints fans! Not all of us are conspiracy theorist!

  12. gtodriver says: Oct 2, 2012 9:05 PM

    silentcount says:

    “Bottom line: It still has not been shown as to why Sean Payton deserved to be suspended. Goodell intentionally injured the Saints entire season over nothing. He deserves to be in jail.”

    When will you wake up and accept the fact that Payton and Loomis have already admitted that it happened:

    “We acknowledge that the violations disclosed by the NFL during their investigation of our club happened under our watch. We take full responsibility.”

    What were the violations disclosed by the league?

    It was the bounty program.

    They clearly state that the violations happened, they happened under their watch, and they take full responsibility.

    Time for all the Saints fans to accept the fact that their team – management, coaching staff and players are the one’s that injured the Saints season.

    If anyone should be going to jail it would be someone from the Saints organization – not the league office.

    BTW – remind me of how Will Smith was going to fire up the defense for the Saints when his suspension was temporarily blocked.

    How’d that work out for you…

  13. csviafw says: Oct 2, 2012 9:19 PM

    I just think it’s stronger and it absorbs better. Sorry, I just got tired of discussing the football bounty and moved on to a Bounty that most people actually care about. This is old, tired, and only matters to Saints fans. The Saint’s season is over. What’s done is done. Can we stop talking about it now and move on to something more interesting? Let’s post future bounty news on a Saints blog.

  14. bucrightoff says: Oct 2, 2012 9:56 PM

    Right, cause it’s Roger Goodell’s fault the Saints have the worst defense in the league. Drew Brees, even with Sean Payton, would need to throw for 6,000 yards for them to make the playoffs.

  15. larryjames836 says: Oct 2, 2012 10:15 PM

    Believe what you want Roger Goodell is 100% against the New Orleans Saints, he lying to the people’s and the fans like he’s a good guy. NFL commissioner Roger Goodell is out to destroy the Saints organization he knows how hard Sean Payton worked to get the New Orleans Saints where they at. Roger Goodell suspended Sean Payton because he is a mastermind of leadership and play calling they were talking about another head coach better than Sean Payton there is no other head coach in the NFL better than Payton but one man and that’s Bill P.

  16. twisteditoff says: Oct 2, 2012 10:54 PM

    saints are part of loserania the players will end up in jail for liying to a fed judge and if they dont go to jail then it should be ok for everyone to lie to a fed court
    the saints were cheating and they were told to stop they dident they tryed to cover it up but couldent they are the worst nfl team in history they are the lowest pos in the history they need to be disolved at very least they should not be allowed a first round pick for 10 years same punishment given to other people who lie on fed documents needless to say loserania karma eat it

  17. musicman495 says: Oct 2, 2012 11:13 PM

    robert831 says: Oct 2, 2012 7:19 PM

    Suspend all these guys for 3 years for conduct detrimental to the league. The Saints should still be stripped of 3 first round picks, one for each year they cheated! Fine and suspend this team into oblivion and move them to LA. If we could only contract the team…
    ——————————–
    Try the decaf.

  18. drgreenstreak says: Oct 2, 2012 11:59 PM

    Drew Brees needs/demands an explanation or else…

    Lest we all forget (again), Roger Goodell is merely the mouthpiece for the owners. You know ‘em. Turds pinching pennies like Jerry Richardson.

    I can’t blame the players for getting all they can in the brief time they have to play the game.

    Some players just look a bit silly, patronizing to fans and ignorant enough to think we believe them.

    Fujita takes the cake but then he is in a compromising situation of trying to injure a player he purports to represent against such injuries. I have nothing but disgust and disdain for Scott Fujita, as should every NFL player that once looked to him as a leader.

  19. csviafw says: Oct 3, 2012 12:05 AM

    Did you hear that the Patriots video taped the Rams practice prior to their Superbowl match-up? I think they should have an asterisk next to their name in the record books. And what about Barry Sanders retiring at the peak of his career. What’s up with that? And how about that whole Saints bounty thing. Man… So many fresh new topics to discuss and analyze.

  20. treesloth16 says: Oct 3, 2012 1:51 AM

    Goodell single-handedly destroyed the Saint’s season, and along with that, 53+ players’ season. That’s one less year for them in their playing careers, while Goodell’s career can continue for another 25years (hopefully not).

  21. mgavin78 says: Oct 3, 2012 3:47 AM

    Will this please just go away. Every player that’s plays defense is trying to knock the other player out of the game.

  22. larryjames836 says: Oct 3, 2012 3:51 AM

    If anybody should be strip the NFL they one pay these guys for the action they do, some of you is to young to remember football today is a piece of cake compared to back in the years. In the 1960’s if the players from back come forward and tell the story about if the NFL was caring about players safety the NFL will be lying. There was no talking about players safety back then and there was heavy bounty program back then players was being roll off, carry off, carted off straight to the nearest hospital. There were not a hold lot of rules in the NFL back then no suspension maybe fine players being kick off team for so many games no. NFL commissioner Roger Goodell talking about concussion what if the guys back then come with they football injuries what would the NFL do then. Now the NFL come with this mess like concussion just started now they have so many lawsuits they need teams to lay it on. You must play very aggressive to keep your job with the NFL why do you people’s see players get hurt in training trying to make the roster mainly if you playing defense if you not knocking out people’s you will be cut. Owners is not looking for powder puff players they looking for players who can run over you are put you out of the game.

  23. olcap says: Oct 3, 2012 5:53 AM

    I guess in New Orleans the coaches are the biggest factor in the Saints either winning or losing, apparently the players themselves have nothing to do with it.

  24. miles58a says: Oct 3, 2012 7:26 AM

    Some of these fans really want their team to win so bad that they can talk themselves into believing anything that would set the Saints back so their team can finally beat the Saints

  25. whodatsaybaby says: Oct 3, 2012 7:29 AM

    I love how we still have those of you who comment on here with the intent to bash the Saints. Your accomplishments: nothing. No matter what could be said or what conclusions are came up with, the Who Dat Nation is still here. We support a team that supports us. It’s bigger then our record. It’s bigger then the season. We roll out in the thousands to see a glimpse of the black and gold run through the tunnel and take the field no matter how the season undergoes. We belive. Roger can legally take away alot of things, but that he can never touch. We are New Orleans. We are the Saints. And we, are not going anywhere. Who Dat.

  26. sj39 says: Oct 3, 2012 8:21 AM

    Bounty ruling? What bounty? Why am I always the last to hear about these things?

  27. kellij666 says: Oct 3, 2012 8:31 AM

    He’s gonna do what he wants to do just because he can. simple as that. he’s has all the power and it is what it is.

  28. dexterismyhero says: Oct 3, 2012 9:24 AM

    @whodatsaybaby & larryjames:

    We are New Orleans. We are the Saints. And we, are not going anywhere. Who Dat.

    Sort of like when you didn’t go anywhere when you were told to leave before Katrina hit your a$$ right.

    BTW: You also told us how your team was going to knock the snot out of everyone once the season started.

    Karma………….

  29. dcmaxx says: Oct 3, 2012 10:57 AM

    Some of you exaggerating this supposed bounty and asking for outlandish punishments sound really butthurt. I can only imagine that the Saints have been abusing your teams on the field for years. Falcons fans??

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