Comments on: Eric Winston rips Chiefs fans for cheering Cassel injury

By: ccrandall58

ccrandall58 — Tue, 09 Oct 2012 01:03:16 +0000

If you are a Chiefs/sports fan and you TRULY cheered the fact that another human being was injured then shame on you. However, a couple of points to keep in mind 1) Jamal Charles had a 15 yard catch and run that resulted in a first down on the very same play of Cassel’s injury. Could it be that many were cheering the play and not the injury? If you go back and watch and LISTEN to the play (Google “Cassel injury play” and you can watch and listen to the play) one cannot say that there is a clear up tick in cheering once the stadium realizes that Cassel was hurt. It’s one continuous cheer that fades. 2) Many did cheer the fact the Quinn was coming in to the game, however, that does not mean that these folks were cheering the fact that Cassel was injured. I doubt very many fans entered Arrowhead HOPING that someone would be injured. It is clear that the Chiefs and Cassel have been struggling and in my opinion it was time to bench Cassel, but I would never advocate that change be precipitated due to an injury. Regarding the lack of class of KC fans, did it make the national news shows/talking heads circuit when the “classless” KC fans gave Miguel Cabrera a standing ovation for his winning Major League baseballs’ Triple Crown? A player that is not even a member of the home team? I don’t remember anyone mentioning that classy move. Again, if people truly cheered Cassel’s injury, shame. But to paint all fans with such a wide brush, as some have done (including Eric Winston, Chiefs right tackle who said that all 70,000 people cheered for Cassel’s injury, as well as many ESPN commentators etc.) is inaccurate and misleading. The whole of the Chiefs fan base is not the culprit here. As usual a few have tainted the reputation of the many.

By: Sporting Nerds

Sporting Nerds — Tue, 09 Oct 2012 00:32:47 +0000

Who was cheering? I watched the game and all I heard was fans applauding when he got up.

By: essentialsausage

essentialsausage — Mon, 08 Oct 2012 20:31:40 +0000

Lions fan here. I just watched the play, and I’m not at all convinced that they were cheering because Cassel got injured. The Chiefs got a big first down, and it didn’t even seem like the fans noticed Cassel was injured.

By: cags777

cags777 — Mon, 08 Oct 2012 19:34:06 +0000

Good for Winston for speaking up.

By: mogogo1

mogogo1 — Mon, 08 Oct 2012 18:52:59 +0000

It’s classless to boo an injured player. And it’s a sign of the times. There’s a general lack of civility that’s far worse than even a few years back. And the teams haven’t helped things by constantly raising ticket prices to the degree it’s now a major financial undertaking to attend a game. You end up with less “regular” fans and more whackos who have no sense of perspective and care WAY too much about the outcome and people doing the math on the entertainment value, trying to decide if the game fell short of the concert they were considering attending instead.

By: vavikingfan

vavikingfan — Mon, 08 Oct 2012 18:01:29 +0000

Eric Winston spoke eloquently for all real fans of any sport…..anybody that ever “put one on and walked across the lines” would agree with him. It’s one thing to boo and bitch because these guys can’t do well enough in our minds what we couldn’t do , but cheering someone who gets hurt is unconscionable.

By: mazblast

mazblast — Mon, 08 Oct 2012 17:54:21 +0000

A fish rots from the head on down. Scott “I believe my New England press clippings” Pioli is the head of the fish. The rot extends down to Romeo “I believe my New England press clippings” Crennel, to the point where he and Pioli have dug in their heels and refuse to try anything other than Matt “I had one good year in New England” Cassel.

Now don’t get me wrong. Anyone who cheered Cassel’s injury itself is a pig. I think the cheering wasn’t directed at the injury, but at the consequence, that there was finally a change at QB (even if it was to another bust, Golden Domer Brady Quinn). Some of the cheering may even have been that Cassel didn’t appear to be seriously hurt, but just enough to get him out of the game.

Of course, I could be misreading the whole thing. Again, if they were cheering the injury itself, shame on them.

But I do understand the frustration of Chiefs’ fans and see how it can boil over. All the different regimes, with the same results. All the hype that surrounded the Pioli hiring, how he was going to bring the New England way of doing things to Kansas City, and all the fans have seen is New England retreads and the same old losing ways.

Finally, to Mr. Winston–Even if you were misreading the cheers, kudos to you for standing up for your supposed field leader.

By: mwatts1

mwatts1 — Mon, 08 Oct 2012 17:15:44 +0000

No class Chief fans. Good for you Eric. I hope you and the Chiefs can pulll together over this. It’s sad you own fans are turning against you.

By: jtfawver

jtfawver — Mon, 08 Oct 2012 16:31:20 +0000

We should never cheer an injury.

However, Winston needs to shut up and worry about why the Chiefs offense is a total joke.

Winston was advertised as a leader. Maybe hold Cassel accountable for record setting turnovers? Maybe meet with Crennel and encourage him to give Quinn a chance?

I dont have all the answers, but the Chiefs offense aside of Jamaal Charles is bad in ways the NFL has not witnessed before. Its Pathetic.

By: dkphilly1122

dkphilly1122 — Mon, 08 Oct 2012 16:28:33 +0000

Eric is 100% right. The Chiefs fans that cheered are classless. I get it that it wasn’t all 70k fans. Just like all Philly fans get a bad rep for a few thousand morons. Than again I am not an Eagles fan either thankfully. But they get the worst rep.

By: drtroyz

drtroyz — Mon, 08 Oct 2012 16:23:15 +0000

Maybe Kansas City is the new Philadelphia??? Fans in KC were criticized for their behavior at the MLB All Star game. I think they were hard on Cassell and Bill Self at the celebrity softball game. They were brutal with Robinson Cano at the Home Run Derby.

By: 2ndaryinsanity

2ndaryinsanity — Mon, 08 Oct 2012 15:52:15 +0000

Blaming classless behavior on the owner or GM is chicken-poop. Frustration is not an excuse to boo an injured player. Here are a few ideas of ways to express your frustration that don’t include acting like an insensitive moron:
#1 wear paper bags over your head at the games
#2 hold up signs at the games (if you are creative without any profanity, there’s a decent chance the network will show it)
#3 have a bonfire with all of your friends using Chiefs jersey’s/hats/etc and post it on you tube.
#4 don’t buy tickets or team merchandise
#5 send repeated emails to the team’s front office
#6 start a facebook page for disgruntled fans
See, there are a lot better ways for you to send a message to the owner/GM/head coach about what a s#%$$* job they are doing.

By: 2ndaryinsanity

2ndaryinsanity — Mon, 08 Oct 2012 15:41:48 +0000

@matthewcarlson1…I was a bit dramatic? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. You are the one de-humanizing NFL players. You are the one who cares more about being entertained than the health and well-being of players. Someone needed to call you on it. And I am more than happy to do so. Think I’m going to enjoy a nice horseback ride at the beach today. Seriously, because I do happen to own a beautiful quarter horse.

By: sullijo1

sullijo1 — Mon, 08 Oct 2012 15:23:05 +0000

On second thought….maybe it WOULD be better if they just didn’t keep score during the Chiefs games.

By: sullijo1

sullijo1 — Mon, 08 Oct 2012 14:34:37 +0000

Eric must have went to a politically correct liberal democrat training session (aka a public school). I bet he thinks everyone gets a trophy.

How about he actually blocks so his man doesn’t crush the QB!!!!

By: jdubkc

jdubkc — Mon, 08 Oct 2012 14:22:19 +0000

I was there, it did not happen that way. Fans cheered as he got to his feet. Winston just made a huge mistake.

By: wtfpft

wtfpft — Mon, 08 Oct 2012 12:56:42 +0000

These are the same fans that at the end of the national anthem say “home of the chiefs” that’s just as sickening.

By: footballer4ever

footballer4ever — Mon, 08 Oct 2012 12:29:59 +0000

dallascowboysdishingthereal
“Actually Eric you are modern day Gladiators in the Coliseum. You didn’t know?”

Well, someone bought into the sabol films narrative a bit too much. Just like the Roman empire and its gladiators, one day this game shall cease or fall one brick at a time.

By: polamalurulz43

polamalurulz43 — Mon, 08 Oct 2012 11:41:13 +0000

I am a newfound Winston fan and plan to send the link to this story to every Chefs fan out there. I believe those that cheered are not truly representative of the good fans they have in KC given I have tailgated with many who were very friendly, savvy and certainly not of the injury cheering ilk, regardless of if was a teammate or someone from the other side. For example, they applauded when both Ben and Batch got hurt a few years back when the Chefs pulled out an unexpected OT win against my Stillers and were razing but not obnoxious when we got to the parking lot.

I know it is depressing but you cheer for your team the right way. Hopefully, the good fans will police the bad.

By: chrismgillis

chrismgillis — Mon, 08 Oct 2012 07:36:17 +0000

2ndaryinsanity, I totally agree with you on this. that ignoramus should never produce a child. I was going to rip the d-bag myself but you beat me to it. thank you for that. I really enjoyed reading that.

By: indychiefsfan

indychiefsfan — Mon, 08 Oct 2012 07:18:47 +0000

I love my Chiefs. I always have and I always will. As much as I believe this year more than ever that Matt isn’t the one who will lead this team where I would love to see them go i will support whoever takes the snaps on Sunday. He is a mortal human being who gives his all week in and week out. Even though I share the frustrations of my fellow fans I will never applaud an injury, even that of a Raider. Grow up people. I have always held my head high on Sunday no matter the score of a Chiefs game…not today. Thank you Mr. Winston. I applaud you sir.

By: kcgpg

kcgpg — Mon, 08 Oct 2012 06:20:24 +0000

How long does one have to go before change? It seems like here in K.C. It might be 7,10,15 maybe even 20 years. Cassel is horrible no dought, but so is upper management. When is it going to stop?? And yes it is 150% changing the fans, I mean come on how many teams have a plane flying over the stadium screaming to fire Pioli and Cassel?

Bottom line today Eric had no right to speak for the team in that fashion, period. And the other problem is there is so much hatred with teams performance and the staff that the cheers for Cassel getting up or heading off the field was over shadowed. Not to mention the cheers for Quinn going in all in the same 5 min. K.C. has lots of issues for sure and I can only hope someone opens there eyes to get something done. On another note Jamal was outstanding, and only hope they take some weight off his shoulders before he gets hurt.

By: footballchic777

footballchic777 — Mon, 08 Oct 2012 04:33:17 +0000

I listened to this speech earlier today, and was truly impressed. And I totally agreed with him. Shame on the fans of any team that would do this.

By: matthewcarlson1

matthewcarlson1 — Mon, 08 Oct 2012 04:22:15 +0000

2ndaryinsanity says:
Oct 7, 2012 7:24 PM
@matthewcarlson1… you have issues. Serious issues. These players are human beings. Playing football is just their job. Off the field they are husbands, fathers, and sons. When they get hurt on the field, they hurt off the field as well. You obviously need to get a life if you really feel like all that matters is your entertainment. I hope you haven’t reproduced, because the world doesn’t need anymore people like you.
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What are you talking about? That’s a bit dramatic. I Hope you don’t fall off your horse, its a looong way down.

By: cmdrsmooth

cmdrsmooth — Mon, 08 Oct 2012 04:09:54 +0000

I remember the Chief fans being head as the best fans anywhere. Fans are all the same everywhere.

The Giant fans boo’d there Super Bowl a championship team today.

Well, maybe the Philly fans can be considered the worst of the bunch. I mean, come on! Who boos Santa?

By: rammer27

rammer27 — Mon, 08 Oct 2012 03:38:55 +0000

We were not cheering because he got hurt, but because of the possible change. Everyone applauded him when he got up and walked off the field. What Winston should be embarrased about is his play on the field that has gotten Cassel killed a few times. They would not pull Cassel no matter how bad he plays so Pioli could save face. We need a change (not this way) but it seems this is the only way it was coming. Hell they hurt Cassel worse by making him hand the ball off 40 times and not letting him throw, basically saying we don’t trust you.

By: maltarz

maltarz — Mon, 08 Oct 2012 02:57:22 +0000

Terrible fans know no geographic restrictions.

By: c0rona55

c0rona55 — Mon, 08 Oct 2012 02:52:07 +0000

tommynatorii says:
Oct 7, 2012 8:02 PM

Should have signed with Miami Winston, you would’nt be dealing with this.
Anyhoo, good job speaking up for your QB.

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Correct! ..Cause no one goes to your games you imbecile!

By: johninthewest

johninthewest — Mon, 08 Oct 2012 01:52:37 +0000

Only in kc! Horrible team, and now horrible fans!

By: iminra6

iminra6 — Mon, 08 Oct 2012 00:55:15 +0000

I don’t think the fans were cheering Matt Cassel getting hurt so much, I think it was the frustration of watching a really talented team implode before your eyes every week and a front office and coaching staff despite glaring continual problems,manage to keep the same personnel on the field instead of stepping forward and making the necessary changes to help the team compete at as high level. This should send a loud and clear message to the ownership of the chiefs organization and all parties involved.