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	<title>Comments on: Bruce Arians: I threw the red flag knowing I couldn&#8217;t challenge</title>
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		<title>By: devrick</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/08/bruce-arians-i-threw-the-red-flag-knowing-i-couldnt-challenge/#comment-2049387</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[devrick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 08:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, you didn&#039;t get your way, so you threw a tantrum. Nicely done. And very effective.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, you didn&#8217;t get your way, so you threw a tantrum. Nicely done. And very effective.</p>
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		<title>By: christopher525</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/08/bruce-arians-i-threw-the-red-flag-knowing-i-couldnt-challenge/#comment-2049381</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[christopher525]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 07:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are too many times when teams commit fouls that are put to the kickoff. They should tack it onto the return instead. You shouldn&#039;t be allowed to commit a penalty, just to have the punishment negated by the kickoff being a touchback, as many are now. If you score on the return, tack it on the P.A.T., if you commit another penalty on the kickoff, double up the yardage.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are too many times when teams commit fouls that are put to the kickoff. They should tack it onto the return instead. You shouldn&#8217;t be allowed to commit a penalty, just to have the punishment negated by the kickoff being a touchback, as many are now. If you score on the return, tack it on the P.A.T., if you commit another penalty on the kickoff, double up the yardage.</p>
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		<title>By: tluke25</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/08/bruce-arians-i-threw-the-red-flag-knowing-i-couldnt-challenge/#comment-2049362</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tluke25]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 05:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Something tells me Arians will be interviewing for some head coaching positions this off season.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something tells me Arians will be interviewing for some head coaching positions this off season.</p>
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		<title>By: granadafan</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/08/bruce-arians-i-threw-the-red-flag-knowing-i-couldnt-challenge/#comment-2049293</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[granadafan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 04:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They should throw the coaches out for deliberate cheating.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should throw the coaches out for deliberate cheating.</p>
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		<title>By: tdrundmc</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/08/bruce-arians-i-threw-the-red-flag-knowing-i-couldnt-challenge/#comment-2049241</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tdrundmc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 02:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sure ya did Bruce...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure ya did Bruce&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: countyk66ers</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/08/bruce-arians-i-threw-the-red-flag-knowing-i-couldnt-challenge/#comment-2049225</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[countyk66ers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 02:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike McCarthy should have thrown the flag on Nick Perry&#039;s sack that was called roughing the passer even though it wasn&#039;t reviewable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike McCarthy should have thrown the flag on Nick Perry&#8217;s sack that was called roughing the passer even though it wasn&#8217;t reviewable.</p>
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		<title>By: getadealdonealready</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/08/bruce-arians-i-threw-the-red-flag-knowing-i-couldnt-challenge/#comment-2049195</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[getadealdonealready]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 02:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wait, I thought only the packers got bad calls against them?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wait, I thought only the packers got bad calls against them?</p>
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		<title>By: slice60</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/08/bruce-arians-i-threw-the-red-flag-knowing-i-couldnt-challenge/#comment-2049147</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[slice60]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 01:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just another example of bizarro-misleading NFL rules.  The league says that all scoring plays are reviewed.  Technically, that is not true.  In actuality, the replay guy looks at all scoring plays &amp; then THE REPLAY BOOTH GUY decides if the play will be reviewed.  If it&#039;s close at all, THE REPLAY BOOTH GUY should buzz down for a review.

On this particular play, the replay guy decided a review was not needed.  Coach Arians disagreed so he threw the flag to make 2 points: 1) He showed up the Replay Booth Guy 2) He got in Walt Anderson&#039;s ear about some of his crew&#039;s  calls which had gone against the Colts.

I LOVED what Arian&#039;s did.  After so many years of nice-guy coaches, I want a Colts coach who will get pissed off once in awhile.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just another example of bizarro-misleading NFL rules.  The league says that all scoring plays are reviewed.  Technically, that is not true.  In actuality, the replay guy looks at all scoring plays &amp; then THE REPLAY BOOTH GUY decides if the play will be reviewed.  If it&#8217;s close at all, THE REPLAY BOOTH GUY should buzz down for a review.</p>
<p>On this particular play, the replay guy decided a review was not needed.  Coach Arians disagreed so he threw the flag to make 2 points: 1) He showed up the Replay Booth Guy 2) He got in Walt Anderson&#8217;s ear about some of his crew&#8217;s  calls which had gone against the Colts.</p>
<p>I LOVED what Arian&#8217;s did.  After so many years of nice-guy coaches, I want a Colts coach who will get pissed off once in awhile.</p>
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		<title>By: dkdawg</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/08/bruce-arians-i-threw-the-red-flag-knowing-i-couldnt-challenge/#comment-2049120</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dkdawg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 00:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the refs told Coughlin that the play was not reviewable and he just picked the flag up and put it in his pocket and the game went on]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the refs told Coughlin that the play was not reviewable and he just picked the flag up and put it in his pocket and the game went on</p>
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		<title>By: dkdawg</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/08/bruce-arians-i-threw-the-red-flag-knowing-i-couldnt-challenge/#comment-2049114</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dkdawg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 00:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If this is truly the case than how come Tom Coughlin did not get a penalty when he threw his red flag in the Browns game yesterday?

Tom was trying to challenge the spot of the ball on a non first down call.

Are the rules different?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this is truly the case than how come Tom Coughlin did not get a penalty when he threw his red flag in the Browns game yesterday?</p>
<p>Tom was trying to challenge the spot of the ball on a non first down call.</p>
<p>Are the rules different?</p>
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		<title>By: judsonjr</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/08/bruce-arians-i-threw-the-red-flag-knowing-i-couldnt-challenge/#comment-2049078</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[judsonjr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 00:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[NFL should change the penalty to give the kicking team the option of either kicking off, or having the opponent start at their own 10.   Either that or it should be the automatic loss of a challenge.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NFL should change the penalty to give the kicking team the option of either kicking off, or having the opponent start at their own 10.   Either that or it should be the automatic loss of a challenge.</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 00:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Say what you like about this incident, but B.A. did a heckuva job out there yesterday. It was an awkward departure from the Steelers, and I agreed it was time for him to move on. But I&#039;m glad he landed with the Colts. Clearly he&#039;s exactly where he should be. Things happen for a reason.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say what you like about this incident, but B.A. did a heckuva job out there yesterday. It was an awkward departure from the Steelers, and I agreed it was time for him to move on. But I&#8217;m glad he landed with the Colts. Clearly he&#8217;s exactly where he should be. Things happen for a reason.</p>
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		<title>By: ndnut</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ndnut]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 00:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can&#039;t kick the PAT until the ref blows his whistle, the signal that the booth has confirmed the call on the field. Is it true that they don&#039;t review it if you throw the flag? If so, that is unfair as we should get scoring plays reviewed no matter what other outside actions there are if it doesn&#039;t nullify the score.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#8217;t kick the PAT until the ref blows his whistle, the signal that the booth has confirmed the call on the field. Is it true that they don&#8217;t review it if you throw the flag? If so, that is unfair as we should get scoring plays reviewed no matter what other outside actions there are if it doesn&#8217;t nullify the score.</p>
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		<title>By: realitypolice</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[realitypolice]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2012 23:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[sportsrube90 says:
Oct 8, 2012 7:43 PM
Ummm…. actually it did cost you something, coach. Every scoring play is reviewed. But when you throw the red flag, not only do you get a 15 yards put against you on the kickoff(which I agree doesn’t matter) But you also lose the chance for the called to be reversed because they don’t review it then. So you basically that the call was a bad one, and threw the flag so that it gave you no shot to make it right.
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The play had already been reviewed and confirmed when he threw the flag.  

Nice try, though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sportsrube90 says:<br />
Oct 8, 2012 7:43 PM<br />
Ummm…. actually it did cost you something, coach. Every scoring play is reviewed. But when you throw the red flag, not only do you get a 15 yards put against you on the kickoff(which I agree doesn’t matter) But you also lose the chance for the called to be reversed because they don’t review it then. So you basically that the call was a bad one, and threw the flag so that it gave you no shot to make it right.<br />
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<p>The play had already been reviewed and confirmed when he threw the flag.  </p>
<p>Nice try, though.</p>
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		<title>By: gojags</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gojags]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2012 23:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Contrary to conventional wisdom, I tend to disagree with this call. Lets say if this infact is questionable and Packers kick the FG quick realizing it would be challenged and might be overturned. In that scenario you buy extra time for giving an opportunity upstairs to review the call. In such case its ok to get 15 yards penalty as it would be enforced in the kickoff anyway even if a team starts at the 50 yard line in kickoff its hard to nail the team deep inside.  The differential won&#039;t 15 yards rather it would be less. Most likely outcome would be a touchback. 

One caveat is the opponent since they are in the 50 yard line they may be enticed for an onside kick.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Contrary to conventional wisdom, I tend to disagree with this call. Lets say if this infact is questionable and Packers kick the FG quick realizing it would be challenged and might be overturned. In that scenario you buy extra time for giving an opportunity upstairs to review the call. In such case its ok to get 15 yards penalty as it would be enforced in the kickoff anyway even if a team starts at the 50 yard line in kickoff its hard to nail the team deep inside.  The differential won&#8217;t 15 yards rather it would be less. Most likely outcome would be a touchback. </p>
<p>One caveat is the opponent since they are in the 50 yard line they may be enticed for an onside kick.</p>
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		<title>By: melikefootball</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[melikefootball]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2012 23:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Arians, that is alright.  Heard Arians  interview after the game, class act all the way. Was put in an emotional situation and he did the Colts and the NFL prould.  Nice to see, when there seems to be so much negative in the NFL today.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arians, that is alright.  Heard Arians  interview after the game, class act all the way. Was put in an emotional situation and he did the Colts and the NFL prould.  Nice to see, when there seems to be so much negative in the NFL today.</p>
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		<title>By: ggreen7</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ggreen7]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2012 23:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Starting to think we may hear of this coach again down the line. Pretty smart cookie.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Starting to think we may hear of this coach again down the line. Pretty smart cookie.</p>
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		<title>By: sportsrube90</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sportsrube90]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2012 23:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ummm.... actually it did cost you something, coach. Every scoring play is reviewed. But when you throw the red flag, not only do you get a 15 yards put against you on the kickoff(which I agree doesn&#039;t matter) But you also lose the chance for the called to be reversed because they don&#039;t review it then. So you basically that the call was a bad one, and threw the flag so that it gave you no shot to make it right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ummm&#8230;. actually it did cost you something, coach. Every scoring play is reviewed. But when you throw the red flag, not only do you get a 15 yards put against you on the kickoff(which I agree doesn&#8217;t matter) But you also lose the chance for the called to be reversed because they don&#8217;t review it then. So you basically that the call was a bad one, and threw the flag so that it gave you no shot to make it right.</p>
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