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Goodell tells Vilma: I am persuaded you put a bounty on Favre

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Throughout the NFL’s investigation of the Saints bounty case, the most serious accusation made against any player was the claim that Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma told his teammates before the NFC Championship Game that he’d give $10,000 to anyone who knocked Brett Favre out. Vilma has long denied that, but in re-affirming Vilma’s yearlong suspension today, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell made clear that he doesn’t buy Vilma’s denial.

The full statement from the NFL about the suspensions of four Saints players includes portions of a letter that Goodell wrote to Vilma explaining why he is still suspended for the year, and in that letter Goodell said he believes that Vilma did put a bounty on Favre.

“I find, based on all of these facts and the entire record described above, that you did, in fact, pledge money to any teammate who injured or disabled Mr. Favre to an extent that he would not be able to continue playing in the playoff game,” Goodell wrote to Vilma. “I recognize that you and some of your teammates have denied that you made such a pledge or claim not to recall your doing so, but I am persuaded, based on the entirety of the record before me, that you did so. And I find that such a pledge or any similar incentive is conduct detrimental.”

Goodell also told Vilma that the NFL has credible evidence that Vilma put a bounty on former Cardinals quarterback Kurt Warner, although Goodell said the evidence about the Favre bounty alone was enough to merit a one-year suspension.

Although Goodell compromised in one respect by allowing Vilma to collect his pay for spending the first six weeks of this season on the Physically Unable to Perform list, Vilma is not expected to accept Goodell’s version of a compromise. Vilma is likely to keep fighting, and to keep insisting that he didn’t put a bounty on Favre.

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  1. realnflmaster says: Oct 9, 2012 5:27 PM

    No bounty program = a 1-4 team.

    Just like how the Pats haven’t won a Super Bowl since they stopped filming everyone.

    Patriots*
    Saints*

  2. dvdman123 says: Oct 9, 2012 5:27 PM

    And he also said Elvis is still alive and he still believes in Santa Claus.

  3. knackstermyea says: Oct 9, 2012 5:29 PM

    Guilty. Fess up and move on.

  4. thekingofnewyork says: Oct 9, 2012 5:32 PM

    He’s very guilty. Anyone who doubts it is simply uninformed.

    He did this when he was at Miami U, too

  5. ravenmuscle says: Oct 9, 2012 5:32 PM

    The steelers defense is ancient and sucks.
    Polamalu , Harrison, and Hampton are washed up and the whole team lacks talent.

    Ravens will crush the stoolers twice again this year just like last.

  6. paulitik74 says: Oct 9, 2012 5:33 PM

    Saints fans need to quit whining. The refs gave you a game against San Diego so Drew Brees could have a special day. Be happy you got that. Your team cheated. Take your punishment like men and shut up.

  7. marcinhouston says: Oct 9, 2012 5:34 PM

    By facts Goodell means hearsay of convicts trying to make a deal and shift blame away from themselves. In the same statement where Gregg Williams throws Vilma under the bus, Williams also claims any bounty program was the players idea and he just helped handle some money since they wanted to do it. Anyone who knows Gregg Williams history of bounties with the Redskins and Titans knows this is preposterous and Williams testimony is not credible since it is premised on the lie that Williams is the innocent bystander in the matter.

  8. xxwhodatxx says: Oct 9, 2012 5:34 PM

    realnflmaster says:
    Oct 9, 2012 5:27 PM
    No bounty program = a 1-4 team.

    Just like how the Pats haven’t won a Super Bowl since they stopped filming everyone.

    Patriots*
    Saints*

    —–

    There are many reasons the Saints haven’t won another SB and bounties have nothing to do with it.

  9. contra74 says: Oct 9, 2012 5:35 PM

    We are still talking about this?

  10. tropstorm says: Oct 9, 2012 5:35 PM

    Wait, Santa isn’t real???

  11. geauxjay says: Oct 9, 2012 5:37 PM

    He ignored the fact that the testimony of Williams and Cerullo directly contradicted each other. And believes that Cerullo doesn’t have an ax to grind.

  12. ballergac says: Oct 9, 2012 5:37 PM

    The easiest person to dislike is the disciplinarian, whether it be a principal, cop, parent etc, or as in this case Goodell. Look a lot of people bash Goodell. I believe he’s the best by FAR commissioner in sports. Again, easiest guy to dislike in a labor dispute, when it comes to fines and punishment. The referee situation really was fixed, luckily when it did, he realized and acted quickly that the replacements weren’t cutting it. But folks he’s cleaned up the game and I applaud him for it.

  13. Mr. Wright 212 says: Oct 9, 2012 5:37 PM

    He ought to be suspended for next season also. His arrogant preening around on the sidelines almost as an affront to this situation (not to mention his outright LYING all along) merits a suspension for 2013 ALSO.

  14. icecubeusedtobeangry says: Oct 9, 2012 5:39 PM

    Who Dat who’s 1-4?

  15. jessethegreat says: Oct 9, 2012 5:39 PM

    Hats off to the commish here for standing up against this liar.

  16. arzcardinals says: Oct 9, 2012 5:39 PM

    He’s injured anyway…take your punishment now before he decides to start the suspension week 6 and you are out the first 6 weeks of next season as well.
    Sorry, but this is the time to take your suspension.

  17. bjr007 says: Oct 9, 2012 5:40 PM

    realnflmaster says:
    Oct 9, 2012 5:27 PM
    No bounty program = a 1-4 team.

    —————————————

    Not to pick nits over your algebra skills, but I’m pretty sure not having their head coach may have contributed a little to this season’s record.

  18. geauxjay says: Oct 9, 2012 5:41 PM

    I thought the Saints were punished because they didn’t stop. Now he’s punished because he “thinks” he did it for one game?

    Refresh my memory: how many Packers received one year suspensions when they were busted for one game?

  19. booker1974 says: Oct 9, 2012 5:42 PM

    alnflmaster says:
    Oct 9, 2012 5:27 PM
    No bounty program = a 1-4 team.

    __________________

    Except that there wasn’t a”bounty program” — there was possibly a bounty on Favre (and this is still in dispute), and there was a three year pay for performance program that rewarded and penalize players for their play, but there never was an ongoing “bounty program.”

    The Saints defense caused the second fewest injuries in the league to opposing offenses from 2009-2011 — if there truly was a bounty program doesn’t common sense tell you that they would have at least been in the top half?

    The reason they’re 1-4 this year has a lot more to do with missing Sean Payton and breaking in a new defensive system than no longer having a big play kitty for the defense.

  20. rickastleydancemoves says: Oct 9, 2012 5:46 PM

    I am persuaded that even if Vilma were playing and Peyton were coaching, the Saints defense would still be trash.

  21. nygmenruleny says: Oct 9, 2012 5:50 PM

    Stop complaining about this being unfair. You and the other players got caught breaking the rules and now you can pay for it. Be glad you got 6 game checks to get you through the year.

  22. dvdman123 says: Oct 9, 2012 5:52 PM

    Vilma’s response will probaly be……see ya in court commish. Anyway this has the makings of a long battle that eventually the NFL will lose.

  23. whatjusthapped says: Oct 9, 2012 5:52 PM

    I don’t remember much about that game except for Favre’s INT and the lopsided ref’s call in OT.

    I’m guessing if there was a bounty, that would have been ill advised because the back up QB probably wouldn’t have throw the INT and the Vikings would have made it to the Superbowl.

    Funny how life turns out.

  24. 2sausage11 says: Oct 9, 2012 5:56 PM

    booker1974 says:
    Oct 9, 2012 5:42 PM
    alnflmaster says:
    Oct 9, 2012 5:27 PM
    No bounty program = a 1-4 team.

    __________________

    Except that there wasn’t a”bounty program” — there was possibly a bounty on Favre (and this is still in dispute), and there was a three year pay for performance program that rewarded and penalize players for their play, but there never was an ongoing “bounty program.”

    The Saints defense caused the second fewest injuries in the league to opposing offenses from 2009-2011 — if there truly was a bounty program doesn’t common sense tell you that they would have at least been in the top half?

    The reason they’re 1-4 this year has a lot more to do with missing Sean Payton and breaking in a new defensive system than no longer having a big play kitty for the defense.
    ————————————-
    Just because they aren’t good enought to hurt players doesn’t mean they didn’t try

  25. tommysaint1 says: Oct 9, 2012 6:02 PM

    Goodell was persuaded? Shouldn’t it be proven?

    I wonder if Vilma will persuade the judge that you are incompetent of making a fair ruling.

  26. countryteeth says: Oct 9, 2012 6:05 PM

    There isnt a frame job here. If Goodell is hosing all of these Saints players and coaches, where is Benson on the issue? He is one of the commissioner’s bosses and we’ve not heard a peep. The suspensions obviously hurt the value of his asset and its ability to compete, but no defense. The silence on Williams and Payton I understand, not benson if indeed the commissioner has framed his staff and players.

  27. jbaxt says: Oct 9, 2012 6:06 PM

    Chiefs fans are putting a bounty on Eric Winston. The bad thing is Pioli has already lost most of the fan base so banning fans for a year will bring no real recognition since they’re already fed up with the product on the field.

  28. pitch87mph says: Oct 9, 2012 6:11 PM

    I don’t know what happened. And while I’m inclined to NOT agree with the commissioner in most cases, I happen to agree in this one. Otherwise, I have to accept that there was a concerted effort by a number of individuals involved in the case to target Vilma as a scapegoat, fabricate physical evidence, cover it up (when there’s supposedly nothing to cover up) in order to save their own skin. Plausible? Sure. Reasonable? Not imho.

  29. discosucs2005 says: Oct 9, 2012 6:13 PM

    Lets assume he actually did it, I still think its absurd that he has the same punishment as Sean Payton; how is a player equally responsible as the coach in charge of the team?

    I don’t really care if Vilma’s suspension is shorter or Payton’s is longer, but there is no way a coach knowing about a bounty program on his team and allowing it to happen is less than or equally as detrimental to the league as a player participating in said program (assuming it existed).

  30. genericuser8888 says: Oct 9, 2012 6:16 PM

    1) Meanwhile, back in reality, the Saints inflicted the second LEAST injuries on opposing players in the league during their Superbowl run.

    2) Revis with the Jets essentially said that he was going to take Reggie Bush out of the game a few weeks ago. Then, he did. No NFL punishment. The Gaints defense made similar statements last year, but the NFL found “nothing to investigate”.

    3) The Saints were playing old school NFL football with players betting money and trying to knock the heads off other players. This has been going on since the beginnings of the league. Then, the Saints get ridiculous punishments. — The whole thing wreaks of the NFL trying to come out strong on player safety ahead of the concussion lawsuits. For 50 years, they haven’t given a damn. The NFL used to make highlight reels of this kind of stuff.

    4) There is no reason that Sean Payton needs to be suspended a year. Greg Williams mysteriously starts playing ball with the league and is suddenly allowed to attend Rams’ games. The league wouldn’t even allow Brees to be interviewed or shown on the screen at the Saints game the other day. This makes all those rumors of Payton and Goodell having a personal dislike of each other look more and more true.

  31. packhawk04 says: Oct 9, 2012 6:20 PM

    Whoever thinks this will ever end up anywhere near a court of law is an idiot.

  32. 49erstim says: Oct 9, 2012 6:25 PM

    Justice prevails!!!!!!!

  33. commonsensedude says: Oct 9, 2012 6:28 PM

    Am I the only one who wants both of these dudes, Goodell and Vilma, to shut up and go away?

  34. namelessfacelessfan says: Oct 9, 2012 6:32 PM

    2sausage11 says:
    Oct 9, 2012 5:56 PM
    Just because they aren’t good enought to hurt players doesn’t mean they didn’t try

    —————————————————–

    This common retort to the fact that the Saints injured the 2nd fewest players (during the supposed bounty period) is ludicrous and terribly intellectually dishonest at best.

    You don’t really think it takes skill to hurt someone do you?

    Did you see the Jets ‘block’ last night that ended Cushing’s season?
    Did that look like it took any skill at all?

    How about Brett Favre’s illegal crackback block that ended Eugene Wilson’s season during a meaningless 2009 preseason game?
    That look like it took much effort or skill?

    Actually, now that I think about it, ’09 Champ game might have been karma for Favre risking a man’s career in a PRESEASON game.

  35. dalvar1001 says: Oct 9, 2012 6:34 PM

    Ok did he say bounty and Farve? What’s the problem?

  36. icecubeusedtobeangry says: Oct 9, 2012 6:38 PM

    packhawk04 says:Oct 9, 2012 6:20 PM

    Whoever thinks this will ever end up anywhere near a court of law is an idiot.
    ————————————————

    it already has

  37. bigperm33 says: Oct 9, 2012 6:39 PM

    This is why Roger Goodell is bad at his job. This story needs to go away. Whether you agree with the league or not, it has been going on since March. If Goodell had any sense whatsoever, he would have worked out some deal with the players where in return for some type of reduced suspension, they would agree to not complain, not appeal, and simply move on. The NFL would still have sent a message, and it would have put a negative story (and a story that takes away from what happens on the field) to rest. But what he did was basically say I don’t care about anything else then showing I am in charge.

  38. schmitty2 says: Oct 9, 2012 6:41 PM

    bjr007 says:Oct 9, 2012 5:40 PM

    realnflmaster says:
    Oct 9, 2012 5:27 PM
    No bounty program = a 1-4 team.

    —————————————

    Not to pick nits over your algebra skills, but I’m pretty sure not having their head coach may have contributed a little to this season’s record.

    Don’t think for 1 second that Payton was at that game sitting in the suite and following the rules. He made sure to get info down to Kromer

  39. NakedCowboy! says: Oct 9, 2012 6:42 PM

    wow… how weak is that explanation…

  40. fanz928 says: Oct 9, 2012 6:46 PM

    If everyone says u did it u probably did the evidence just adds the oil in the already heated pan

  41. drainbameged says: Oct 9, 2012 6:46 PM

    Vilma just wishes he could get that $10K back since he’s only getting paid for 4 games this year.

  42. richndc says: Oct 9, 2012 6:48 PM

    Agreed. Saints were given, I mean handed wrapped in silk the game against the Chargers. The exact same hit that negated Brees’ pick six was in the Jets/Houston game on Matt Schaub, was not even mentioned or flagged. Let’s not forget about the 4 arguable penalties on that last drive. Not a fan of any of these teams, but those were terrible calls and gave the Saints that game. Quit whining already, the men in stripes saved you from the 0’fer.

  43. jmota222 says: Oct 9, 2012 7:00 PM

    Johnathan “CLEMENS” just fess up and move on please!!!!!!

  44. musicman495 says: Oct 9, 2012 7:00 PM

    Mr. Goodell, I am persuaded that a Federal judge will not agree with you.

  45. musicman495 says: Oct 9, 2012 7:01 PM

    Mr. Wright 212 says: Oct 9, 2012 5:37 PM

    He ought to be suspended for next season also. His arrogant preening around on the sidelines almost as an affront to this situation (not to mention his outright LYING all along) merits a suspension for 2013 ALSO.
    ————————–
    Of course, if there was no bounty system, then he ain’t lying, is he?

  46. pickney1 says: Oct 9, 2012 7:09 PM

    Why the commissioner need to be persuaded, either has legit evidence as to his claims or not, those words will be used against him in the case of defamation

  47. stellarperformance says: Oct 9, 2012 7:23 PM

    It didn’t matter. If Vilma had said “I’ll give $10,000.00 to the player that predicts the minute Favre desperately tries to be the all-me all-now hero and throws the game losing pick,” the outcome would be the same.

    I remember how excited the Viking fans were when they “took Favre from us.” At the time I forgot to mention one thing.

    Thank you.

  48. patswillreign says: Oct 9, 2012 7:23 PM

    Favre is still in the news…??

  49. phloorioisanarcissist says: Oct 9, 2012 7:39 PM

    I am not a Chargers fan by any stretch of the imagination, but the Saints were absolutely handed that game by the officials.

    One call in particular was when they called roughing the passer on… I don’t remember the player, where Brees threw an interception returned for a touchdown by the Chargers. The penalty instead gave the Saints 15 yards and a first down, where they subsequently scored a touchdown several plays later, effectively taking 7 points off the board for the Chargers and adding 7 of their own, not to mention the momentum shift. A 14 point swing that would have surely effected the outcome of that game. But that wasn’t the only horrid call. There were several others that were not called on the Saints including several holds.

  50. duluthvikesfan says: Oct 9, 2012 8:19 PM

    Does anyone really thing that Goodell would be going though all this bother, considering that Favre no longer plays and was a headache to Goodell his last year (remember the text of his privates in a photos?), if he really didn’t have the evidence against Vilma? I honestly believe Goodell has the goods and is doing this for the good of the game.

  51. gbditka says: Oct 9, 2012 9:02 PM

    “If the glove doesn’t fit, you must acquit!” R.I.P. Johnnie Cochran

  52. Manbearpig says: Oct 9, 2012 9:09 PM

    2010 Super Bowl Champions – New Orleans Saints*

  53. booker1974 says: Oct 9, 2012 10:03 PM

    Regarding comments about the Chargers game Sunday, the roughing penalty that overturned the interception was absolutely the right call. The guy hit Brees square in the jaw with the crown of his helmet — you’d have to be completely biased or just ignorant to disagree with that call.

    Now the offensive pass interference call was iffy, but ultimately that and the holding call that followed, and the sack that preceded it, were negated when the Chargers got the automatic first down after the illegal hands to the face penalty.

  54. calvinhobbes5000 says: Oct 9, 2012 10:22 PM

    “I don’t remember much about that game except for Favre’s INT and the lopsided ref’s call in OT.

    I’m guessing if there was a bounty, that would have been ill advised because the back up QB probably wouldn’t have throw the INT and the Vikings would have made it to the Superbowl.

    Funny how life turns out.”

    What a dumb comment. Favre played extremely well in that game apart from one bad pass. If it wasn’t for him, the Vikings wouldn’t have drove into field goal range to begin with, and the late interception wouldn’t have mattered. Adrian Petersen’s three lost fumbles cost them that game a lot more than Favre’s one interception.

  55. clssylssy says: Oct 9, 2012 10:26 PM

    Still…NO EVIDENCE…not even Favre believes Vilma put a bounty on him. Enough dancing around, let’s get on to a real court where there is full disclosure and the ability the cross examine witnesses under oath! I don’t know what’s the matter with the morons who believe everything they are told and wonder how they would feel if they or their child were persecuted on the basis of rumors, lost their jobs, credibility and had no recourse. Goodell care about the game as he does about player safety…GET REAL!
    All he cares about is money and “fixing” the odds in the best interest of the Money Grubbing Owners.

  56. conormacleod says: Oct 9, 2012 10:44 PM

    I think it’s just hilarious that Saints fans always turn to the arguments that their team didn’t hurt many people, and the everybody else was doing it too cry! That, and the fact that Goodell hasn’t shown them the evidence, so it must not exist. Ask Sean Payton et. al. how that’s working out for them.

  57. ishoulbeagm says: Oct 9, 2012 11:03 PM

    You all hate the saints and their fans. Bounty or no bounty it’s still pretty pathetic.no need to hate.. Worry about your own teams problems!

  58. shkz4 says: Oct 9, 2012 11:04 PM

    Roger Goodell for president..lol

  59. saintsfan26 says: Oct 9, 2012 11:38 PM

    Goodell was persuaded by 2 disgruntled ex-employees who’s statements contradict each other. And Goodell ignores the statements of 10 other people who’s statements are all the same. Oh wait that’s right, I forgot… it is a known fact that Roger Goodells daughter is a Vikings fan. It all makes sense now.

  60. vegasvinnie says: Oct 9, 2012 11:54 PM

    Judge Berrigan, you’re up.

    Get set for the next round of humiliation, Roger.

  61. dougy1970 says: Oct 10, 2012 12:06 AM

    Still no evidence? How high is your bar for evidence? Video tape of cash being exchanged?

    The 2009 Saints inflicted the fewest injuries on opposing players? That sounds like a ”Study” brought to us from the company that says there is no global warming.

    BTW, Favre was not sacked a single time in the NFC Championship Game. This means that every hit he took came after he released the ball. My personal favorite hit was Darren Sharper’s spearing into Favre’s chin/right shoulder after taking two steps on a safety blitz. No call.

    As for Vilma, do you know what liars do when they get caught? They lie.

  62. duece5 says: Oct 10, 2012 12:18 AM

    stellarperformance says:Oct 9, 2012 7:23 PM

    It didn’t matter. If Vilma had said “I’ll give $10,000.00 to the player that predicts the minute Favre desperately tries to be the all-me all-now hero and throws the game losing pick,” the outcome would be the same.

    I remember how excited the Viking fans were when they “took Favre from us.” At the time I forgot to mention one thing.

    Thank you.

    duece5 says:

    Let’s not let FACTS get in the way of what actually happened dude>

    After Favre threw the pick (had to try to pass as our general at the time, Chilly, made a change to the play, causing 12 men in the huddle), but the Vikes held the saints.

    The saints won in OT on a flurry of gawdaful lack of calls during the OT and during the game.

    Now, THANK-YOU!!

    By the way, Vikes kik ass, and the pukes NOW SUCK!!!!!!!!!

  63. jimbo75025 says: Oct 10, 2012 2:16 AM

    namelessfacelessfan says:Oct 9, 2012 6:32 PM

    How about Brett Favre’s illegal crackback block that ended Eugene Wilson’s season during a meaningless 2009 preseason game?
    That look like it took much effort or skill?
    —————

    Uh, what? Eugene Wilson played in most of the Texans games at the beginning of the season. His season ended after week 11 or so due to a foot injury in no way related to the preseason incident.

  64. mwindle1973 says: Oct 10, 2012 5:52 AM

    Well now we can crank up the court battle again. Yippy! But be warned Saints fans and conspiracy theorists, the outcome will not change. Goodell has now met the requirements of the appeals arbitrator and clearly shown in his decision how this is primarily a conduct detrimental issue, and secondarily a salary cap issue. And furthermore that the salary cap violations were not considered in the player discipline aspect of this issue. The fact is several rules were broken. This is technically gambling. And this is why. Theoretically, one of the Saints could’ve approached a Vikings Olineman, and offered him money to let him have a free shot at Favre. Not realistic considering the amount of money at stake. But keep in mind, we don’t know the total bounty on Favre’s head. All we know is that Vilma donated 10k. There is evidence that the highest paid players donated to the bounty pool. And there was a carry over from week to week from donations and penalties. So is it unrealistic to speculate that maybe 25k, 50k or maybe even 100k was on his head? I mean you have 53 guys collectively making 115M dollars in that season alone. Is it unrealistic to think they may have put up 50k or 100k of that to try and get Favre out of their path to a championship? I’m inclined to believe that because of the nature of this whole thing, that most evidence was destroyed. I’m kind of assuming that we are only seeing a part of the story. It’s completely likely that they massive amount of unseen info the league has on this issue, is probably not solid enough to use as evidence. But also probably points to the possibility of a much uglier scenario than we all realize. That would also explain why Goodell refuses to release it to the public, and only releases the absolute minimum amount needed to prove the suspensions valid. Now it’s a sort of conspiracy theory also. But a much more likely to be true one, than the “NFL created Bountygate because of the concussions suit” conspiracy theory. See that makes no sense, because this issue has nothing to do with the concussion suit. It’s not like the NFL’s case in those suits gets rosier because of Bountygate. If anything it worsens their position, by showing there was more danger than meets the eye, and a culture they couldn’t control. A skilled lawyer will be able to prove that bounties existed on other teams during a large portion of the time frame the suits cover. Making the NFL liable through negligence as well directly. Just gives the ex-players another front to wage war on. The fact is Bountygate is the last thing in the world Goodell wanted. He probably would’ve like to sweep it under the rug and forget about it after the run of bad publicity for the NFL over the last 2 years. Fact is the concussion suits are what forced him to have to deal with Bountygate. So it also makes sense that if he didn’t have enough proof he would not have admitted it happened. The proof existed so he had to do something about it. Now back to my conspiracy theory, which is actually more a case of common sense. If Goodell was forced to deal with Bountygate because too much proof existed to deny it, then wouldn’t he want to release all the evidence he could to show why he’s doing it? That’s the question right? And the most widely accepted “they didn’t do it” argument is that it somehow can help the NFL’s position in it’s concussion litigation? That makes no sense whatsoever. As it really hurts the NFL’s position. On the other hand once one accepts that fact it seems obvious that Goodell has nothing to gain from hiding evidence but negative consequences. So whatever he discovered they were doing, that he is covering up must be bad enough for him to take all this bad press over it. He’s allowed himself to be painted out a tyrant and dictator who runs the owners who employ him. So I imagine there was some indications in the info gathered during the investigation that pointed to far worse things than a 10k bounty for a “knock out” on a QB. We heard Williams instruct the D to take out just about everyone on the 49ers offense but the Oline. So I imagine for several seasons there was an attempt to reduce or stop, by the intimidation of possible injury or injury itself, the production of any major offensive weapon on every team the Saints played. And furthermore these attempts were rewarded or punished through an organized bounty system, that at some point probably became a bigger goal than winning, because of the belief that reaching bounty goals created wins. As evidenced in the NFL films Hargrove video, the Dline was so distracted by the bounty reward and the QB being supposedly put out of the game, that they couldn’t even listen to the DLine’s coaches instructions. You would think as a DLineman in the NFC championship you would listen up when a new QB is coming in the game, and the whole D strategy is going to do a 180! But these guy are more worried about winking at each other and running there big mouths instead. You know that’s now proof of anything. But I’m not in a court, and I’m not suspending anyone. And I truly believe with every fiber of me that the video represents exactly what the NFL claims. Regardless of who says what to who, it shows how deep the whole thing had gotten. It also demonstrates how the coaches were losing control of their dogs.

  65. kingpel says: Oct 10, 2012 5:56 AM

    The sad part is that the longer these players drag out being accountable, the longer their teams suffer and the subject remains a distraction.

    They should have followed their coaches lead and put this crap to rest ASAP.

  66. cags777 says: Oct 10, 2012 8:26 AM

    I just hope Vilma doesn’t come back to sue the NFL years later for the injuries he sustained as a football player.

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