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NFLPA fires back after bounty discipline announcement

DeMaurice Smith AP

If you think the drama surrounding the Saints bounty penalties is going to die down anytime soon, think again.

The NFLPA released the following statement, moments after the NFL released Roger Goodell’s slight changes to the punishments of four players:

“For more than six months, the NFL has ignored the facts, abused the process outlined in our collective bargaining agreement and failed to produce evidence that the players intended to injure anyone, ever. The only evidence that exists is the League’s gross violation of fair due process, transparency and impartiality during this process. Truth and fairness have been the casualties of the league’s refusal to admit that it might have made a mistake.

“We will review this decision thoroughly and review all options to protect our players’ rights with vigilance.”

This is going to get uglier, and more billable hours will be racked up, before it gets better.

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34 Responses to “NFLPA fires back after bounty discipline announcement”
  1. rhodeislandpatriotsfan says: Oct 9, 2012 5:11 PM

    Assuming that there’s another “appeals hearing” before Goodell, and the suspended players participate in a meaningful way by cross-examining Williams and Cerullo (assuming they’re available, of course), how would Judge Berrigan view that if this matter goes back before her? Wouldn’t such participation mean that these players effectively assented to Goodell’s jurisdiction? Can the players still claim that there weren’t even afforded “industrial due process?” Can they still argue “evident partiality” on Goodell’s part? After all is said and done, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if these latest suspensions imposed by Goodell survive judicial scrutiny.

  2. cakemixa says: Oct 9, 2012 5:11 PM

    Dis gon be good.

  3. r8rsfan says: Oct 9, 2012 5:12 PM

    Did he state anything there that isn’t accurate? Goodell has drooled all over himself.

  4. jpmelon says: Oct 9, 2012 5:15 PM

    Really? The NFLPA disagrees with the NFL? Wow, what a shocker! It must be so aweful to be in charge of an organization that would not exist without the NFL, but disagree with literally everything that the NFL does.

  5. bgsusteelers says: Oct 9, 2012 5:15 PM

    Culms has nothing to lose by taking the NFL to court again, except money. And he has a lot of that. If I wer him, and I know for certain I was innocent, I’d do it. Goodell deserves to be inconvenienced.

  6. geauxjay says: Oct 9, 2012 5:17 PM

    The only ones who got suspensions reduced are the ones not currently playing on the Saints.

    Oh, but Saints fans are crazy conspiracy theorists.

  7. cliffordc05 says: Oct 9, 2012 5:18 PM

    I think the key point here is ‘billable hours’.

  8. gtodriver says: Oct 9, 2012 5:18 PM

    The NFLPA needs to just shut up!

    They should be protecting their membership from the likes of the players that have been rightfully suspended.

    But instead, they choose to try and protect the very people that had intent to cause injury to fellow members.

  9. stoney18 says: Oct 9, 2012 5:18 PM

    Absolutely! I’m for the players on this, mostly due to the arrogance of the Shield! Where was the proof? Due process … what a crock! Hope this is resolved with a strong response that ends the high-handedness that seems to be emanating from Park Ave. Does he think he bought the fans off with that letter after the referee debacle? Puh-leeze!

  10. theseekeroffun says: Oct 9, 2012 5:19 PM

    Who cares, just play football.

  11. canetic says: Oct 9, 2012 5:19 PM

    Couldn’t the NFLPA have prevented this when the CBA was negotiated just a few months back? You reap what you sow.

  12. musicman495 says: Oct 9, 2012 5:22 PM

    Goodell has even less common sense than I gave him credit for. Instead of taking a knee and having a do-over on the suspensions to make the matter go away, he doubles down on his stupidity and stubbornness. The result will be that he will lose in court.

  13. clickablecontent says: Oct 9, 2012 5:22 PM

    Reactionary, vitriolic, hyperbolic, mischaracterizing and repetitive. What I’ve come to expect from NFLPA statements.

  14. dretwann says: Oct 9, 2012 5:25 PM

    Goodell has the ability to make this nightmarish year fade away if he just would eat a little humble pie. I mean, what good does serve to continue this thing. Real or not, the players, owners and fans (majority?) don’t care anymore IF they even cared to begin with. I just don’t think the desired outcome is worth the effort here.

  15. thingamajig says: Oct 9, 2012 5:25 PM

    The only winners in this mess will be the lawyers.

  16. ravenmuscle says: Oct 9, 2012 5:27 PM

    The Steeler defense is ancient and sucks big time….totally lacking in talent

    Polamalu, Harrison, and Hampton are OLD and WASHED up.

    The steelers will be lucky to win 5 games this year and the Ravens will crush them twice again just like last year.

  17. nyangl23 says: Oct 9, 2012 5:29 PM

    Maybe it’s just me, but I am sick of this whole story and want it to go away, far away.

  18. firegoodell says: Oct 9, 2012 5:37 PM

    jpmelon says:
    Oct 9, 2012 5:15 PM
    Really? The NFLPA disagrees with the NFL? Wow, what a shocker! It must be so aweful to be in charge of an organization that would not exist without the NFL, but disagree with literally everything that the NFL does.

    __________________________________

    would the NFL exist without the players? I think not.

  19. discojoe says: Oct 9, 2012 5:38 PM

    I still don’t understand how the whole “due process” argument arises. The only “due process” the players are entitled to is whatever is granted by the CBA. They are entitled to what they collectively bargained for, nothing more. This isn’t a governmental process requiring constitutional due process, so what is their argument?

  20. mikealstott says: Oct 9, 2012 5:39 PM

    that dude in the picture looks like he is taking a large crap that just won’t let go….

  21. jimnaizeeum says: Oct 9, 2012 5:48 PM

    Most unions just try to help the duds they screw up, they should concentrate on helping the 99% of their members that do the right thing.

  22. jbaxt says: Oct 9, 2012 6:13 PM

    Chiefs fans are putting a bounty on Eric Winston. But teams like having a clear path to the QB that Winston provides so they’re having difficult with its success. Goodell has intervened but with Pioli at the helm the stadiums nearly empty so there’s no one to punish. In an attempt at reverse psychology, Goodell’s going to force once proud Chiefs fans to watch the current team, a whole game in it entirety is considered excessively painful so they’re likely going to start with 1 quarter.

  23. mackie66 says: Oct 9, 2012 6:15 PM

    Goodell called down the thunder, now he can deal with it.

  24. bathroomben7 says: Oct 9, 2012 6:15 PM

    Can anyone name one union that the world is better off because it exists? The only reason they’re still around because they bribe democrats and other shady deals.

  25. mazblast says: Oct 9, 2012 6:25 PM

    bathroomben7, you really need to read some labor history. Regardless of how unions often behave now, they have been of incalculable benefit over the years. If not for them, workers’ pay and working conditions would still be something out of Dickens.

    And in case you want to challenge me as some sort of labor union tool–One, I’m not a union member; Two, I’ve never been a union member; and Three, I grew up in a household with one parent a union member and one in management.

    Finally, I’m with the union on this issue. Goodell clearly has some sort of vendetta going and won’t back down, even when he has no valid evidence. I’m not sure what he has against the Saints–maybe Tom Benson didn’t support one of Goodell’s pet projects or pet executives–but he’s clearly on the warpath against them.

  26. mrpowers88 says: Oct 9, 2012 6:38 PM

    “We will review this decision thoroughly and review all options to protect our players’ rights with vigilance.”

    If you reviewed your own ability to collectively bargain, your association and its members might not have a system to complain about. You made your own bed when you agreed to take some more money to allow this system to exist.

    Everyone is on the NFL about their liability in the concussion lawsuits, but what is the NFLPA doing when it is found that some of its members intentionally tried to inflict injury on the other members? The same thing. How is it the sole responsibility of the employer to keep a workplace safe when union members are putting bounties on other union members?

  27. hor2012 says: Oct 9, 2012 6:38 PM

    I know everyone is anti-Saints and I won’t try to covince anyone to change thier minds. But, does anyone else accept me see how insane all of this is. How do you suspend a player and then allow him to keep his salary. That’s not a suspension, that’s a vacation. And, keep in mind that it’s very possible the JV wouldn’t have played this year anyway. That’s not a compromise. RG folded. And, that makes me wonder about all of this. At this point I don’t care rather it’s true or not. I’m a Saints fan. We won the Superbowl after 40 plus years of struggling and despite what the Vikings fans say we didn’t cheat. In fact; if the truth were told, you beat yoursleves that day. No one put a cheap shot on AP when he fumbled after Reggie Bush not one hit him with a late shot. As for the rest of it. JV take your years vacation and then retire. And, let’s just play football

  28. thestrategyexpert says: Oct 9, 2012 6:43 PM

    The NFLPA just said in this quote that the NFL failed to produce evidence that the players were trying to injure another player. Why do they mention that and not the organizing and offering of the bounty?

    The big penalty to Vilma is not about an intent to injure, it was about an attempt to organize a bounty, whether the offer was acted upon and completed by whoever the offer was made to is a moot point to the first act which is the one he is basing his penalty on.

    Hello McFly, is anybody home? The NFLPA should have to pay a stupid tax for every time they embarrass themselves with pointless statements.

  29. itsnotforme says: Oct 9, 2012 6:58 PM

    I’m sick of this. Please go away.

  30. onbucky96 says: Oct 9, 2012 8:11 PM

    D, shut up. Your idiot players got caught, quit hiding behind the CBA. Why don’t u bitch your clients out that kept getting arrested in the offseason instead of whinning about transperency and due process.

  31. getsome99 says: Oct 9, 2012 9:05 PM

    Teach these punks how to be accountable for their actions instead of abusing their due process to cheat the system.

  32. duece5 says: Oct 9, 2012 9:53 PM

    hor2012 says:Oct 9, 2012 6:38 PM

    I know everyone is anti-Saints and I won’t try to covince anyone to change thier minds. But, does anyone else accept me see how insane all of this is. How do you suspend a player and then allow him to keep his salary. That’s not a suspension, that’s a vacation. And, keep in mind that it’s very possible the JV wouldn’t have played this year anyway. That’s not a compromise. RG folded. And, that makes me wonder about all of this. At this point I don’t care rather it’s true or not. I’m a Saints fan. We won the Superbowl after 40 plus years of struggling and despite what the Vikings fans say we didn’t cheat. In fact; if the truth were told, you beat yoursleves that day. No one put a cheap shot on AP when he fumbled after Reggie Bush not one hit him with a late shot. As for the rest of it. JV take your years vacation and then retire. And, let’s just play football

    duece5 says:

    the answer is, BOTH things happened. You CHEATED, and the Vikings gave some plays away, AND the refs made the most OBVIOUS NON-CALL on unncessary roughness on favre, the one play in question about the bounty, the high-low hit—-TOTALLY ILLEGAL and TOTALLY not Twas also a phantom pass interference on Leber, our LB, that your TE totally faked out the ref that he got held, and wasn’t touched. There was also the play where Pierre Thomas did NOT get the 1st down in OT, but the replay official didn’t overrule it, it was SOOO obvious. So no pal, it was a comedy of errors, by the Vikes, by the refs, and by your bounty.

    Congrats on your “victory”. Whether you like it or not, OUTSIDE Louisiana, it will ALWAYS have an asterisk!

    To say the vikes “gave it away” is a scapegoat for saints fans. We gave part of it, the saints cheated on it, and the refs let you.

  33. normtide says: Oct 9, 2012 9:56 PM

    And the lawyers just get richer.

  34. cags777 says: Oct 10, 2012 8:21 AM

    So much for their care about player safety.

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