Comments on: Vilma’s lawyer says NFL’s process “has had no decency”

By: sb44champs

sb44champs — Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:45:20 +0000

bearsandjazz says:
Oct 9, 2012 11:15 PM
geauxjay “I would like for one of the “he’s obviously guilty and he deserves a bigger punishment” crowd that hangs out here to explain how you know he’s guilty. Please, by all means, SHARE THE EVIDENCE YOU HAVE SEEN. Or do you just not like him because he doesn’t play for your team, he went to “Tha U,” or he’s an outspoken black man?”

Oh my god get a life you loser! How do you know he’s innocent. Lets see your evidence proving his innocence
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Hey, how about we see evidence proving guilt since GODell doesn’t seem to mind putting player’s and an entire franchise’s reputations through the mud with not a single piece of CONCRETE EVIDENCE!!!!

By: promickey

promickey — Wed, 10 Oct 2012 13:28:09 +0000

Now that the season is upon us, the NFL watching public seems bored by this stuff. However there is something wrong and low life about using Gregg Williams as a credible witness. Which does not protect the NFL brand that Goodell works hard to protect.

By: hehateme2

hehateme2 — Wed, 10 Oct 2012 11:27:47 +0000

Aint’s fans: get your bags out if you must but STOP the whining! Enough already.

By: gingerkidboston2012

gingerkidboston2012 — Wed, 10 Oct 2012 11:17:47 +0000

And the conspiracy theorists whining about Goodell need to just stop as well. Goodell has sworn statements from coaches & staff that all say it happened. Vilma has a bunch of players who are undoubtedly are lying under oath to save his caboose! If only Vilma cared about his team as much as he cares about himself, maybe they wouldn’t be 1-4 if they had even used half of there brains. Can’t help but wonder if Vilma & the Saints had just taken the punishment and moved on they’d probably be 5-0. Instead they just keep running to the press, playing the victim card & making this a distraction. And you can cry me a river over his whole “detrimental to his lifestyle” bs. Should have been saving his money in the 1st place instead of spending on taking out QB’s.

By: jpb12

jpb12 — Wed, 10 Oct 2012 11:04:33 +0000

All about the money.
Vilma was the team leader who chanelled and funded Williams’ bounties – to knock guys out of games -…

Goodell and the NFL are getting sued by former players for not protecting them.

He’s punishing them because if he doesn’t, the NFL will get sued successfully.

The only debatable point is how harsh is the punishment.

By: gingerkidboston2012

gingerkidboston2012 — Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:44:58 +0000

Vilma & his attorney both need to just shut up and go away. The more they talk to the press the more “me thinks thou protest too much” and it just makes them look more guilty.

By: joetoronto

joetoronto — Wed, 10 Oct 2012 08:42:48 +0000

Vilma has made himself radioactive because of his attitude.

He needs everything he can get from the NFL with this suit because no team will touch him going forward.

What a loser.

By: keakuamai

keakuamai — Wed, 10 Oct 2012 08:19:57 +0000

Listen up apologists and the like, this isn’t the criminal system or heck even the public civil system in reality, this is the NFL.

I don’t for one second believe in the crap about the constitution and Roger being a fascist.

This is the world of entertainment and big time sports here and then there’s the NFL the NFLPA and the CBA which is where the “law” or rules are being applied.

I understand the players have taken their grievances to the courts, BUT those 2 entities mentioned above, the CBA are the true governing bodies and if there is any evidence that the players were involved it’s game over.

I watch reality tv on occasion and though perps get caught red-handed on tape they NEVER EVER admit to it ever, and I believe that such is the case here with some of the players.

I also am wondering what type of deals some of the players cut with Roger.

By: scottieplongballs

scottieplongballs — Wed, 10 Oct 2012 07:02:10 +0000

Vilma is playing lawyer games and is guilty. The players offered up cash and if you watched the games, Cards, Vikes, you wouls see the intent to injure was there. GUILTY

By: denverscott

denverscott — Wed, 10 Oct 2012 06:40:06 +0000

mazblast says: Oct 9, 2012 9:32 PM

Goodell is functioning here as investigator, judge, jury, and executioner–and as is usual for him in those jobs as well as commissioner, made a mess of things. He made his “mind” up early in the proceedings, then executed judgment despite the lack of concrete evidence.

Worse yet, he is also the appeals court, with predictable results–everyone he found guilty in the first place is amazingly enough found to still be guilty.

I’d still like to know what the Saints did to put Goodell in such a tizzy that he keeps embarrassing the legue and himself with this shameless vendetta. IMO it must be something other than the so-called bounty system.
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The players GAVE him those abilities when they signed the CBA Einstein. Let Vilma keep shoveling money into his lawyers feeding trough if he’s stupid enough to do it. (he is BTW). I just wish he’d stop wasting taxpayer money at the same time. He’ll be broke and forgotten in a few years as he never had a legacy to begin with.

By: shawnc16

shawnc16 — Wed, 10 Oct 2012 06:24:54 +0000

Just curious how come people keep talking about this in “innocent until proven guilty” terms like this is a criminal case instead of a work place situation which is not in most cases guilty beyond a resonable doubt, because at work people use deduction and common sense.

If a situation occur in your workplace and who passes down judgement on you, your boss or a jury of your peers?

The NFL is not the US justice system it is a job. Innocent until proven guilty has nothing to do with it.

By: marcinhouston

marcinhouston — Wed, 10 Oct 2012 05:44:48 +0000

With his handling of the bounty issue, Goodell is making a very clear statement about the US Constitution in general: he is against it. In Goodell’s world you are guilty until proven innocent. If you are accused you better confess. Coerced hearsay is proof of guilt. Lack of an earlier confession itself is a crime even if there is no proof of guilt. As each flaw in the evidence is exposed, it doesn’t matter, because there is still a lot of hearsay and the judge, jury, and executioner remains ‘convinced’ that he can’t have been even a little bit wrong. And the sad thing is many readers are anxious to embrace Goodell’s fascist anti-American conception of justice and have no interest in seeing any kind of fair hearing.

By: turfrage

turfrage — Wed, 10 Oct 2012 05:37:07 +0000

You don’t bite the hand that feeds you. Especially if you can’t do anything else except maybe sell used cars. Teams are turned off by trouble makers. Take it like a man already. Enough!

By: twisteditoff

twisteditoff — Wed, 10 Oct 2012 05:04:54 +0000

let it be said right now the players that lied in fed cort are certainaly going to be behind bars soon in dresses waiting for their men come home to show them there worth saints from this point on will forever be known as the dirtyest team in history and trying to buy there way out of something they dident want anyone to know about so go back to the loserania aints the most dispicable team in history you will never change peoples minds about it now waiting for the next huricane to take that pos land and duluite it into hell where the team belongs u pos’s

By: twisteditoff

twisteditoff — Wed, 10 Oct 2012 04:59:52 +0000

go back to loserania vil u pos ukoff u whinner go back to sucking clock u sob

By: oliusmarcelie

oliusmarcelie — Wed, 10 Oct 2012 04:56:37 +0000

You can’t be the judge and the jury! I’m slowly being turned away from the nfl thanks to the commish!

By: gennieleko

gennieleko — Wed, 10 Oct 2012 04:51:24 +0000

I’m not as harsh but I have to agree with the above statement. I honestly don’t understand the “I am sick of this story” and “Who cares” posts that always pop up on the saints stories. Why did you click on it? Why take the time to comment?

By: treesloth16

treesloth16 — Wed, 10 Oct 2012 04:23:30 +0000

Imagine if a judge at a criminal case says to you: “….well, the evidence isn’t strong, but I am persuaded, no… Convinced! that you killed your wife and kids.”

How would you feel?

Just because Goodell has absolute power, doesn’t mean that Vilma is guilty, and that the punishment fits the crime.

By: mogogo1

mogogo1 — Wed, 10 Oct 2012 04:18:20 +0000

No argument that Goodell handled this horribly, was overbearing, etc. But screaming “show me the evidence” is a bit much given Payton, Williams and Loomis admitted the whole thing and apologized. And then there’s the video. What else could Williams be talking about if not the bounties?

Even Vilma’s statements have skirted around whether he actually offered the $10K bounty. He’s only denied paying it or “intending” to pay it. (And if no offer were ever made, the line about not intending to pay makes no sense whatsoever.)

By: realfann

realfann — Wed, 10 Oct 2012 03:32:33 +0000

What about all that wonderful legal analysis that said Goodell would hide behind the word “offer”???

He clearly hasn’t.

By: bearsandjazz

bearsandjazz — Wed, 10 Oct 2012 03:15:51 +0000

geauxjay “I would like for one of the “he’s obviously guilty and he deserves a bigger punishment” crowd that hangs out here to explain how you know he’s guilty. Please, by all means, SHARE THE EVIDENCE YOU HAVE SEEN. Or do you just not like him because he doesn’t play for your team, he went to “Tha U,” or he’s an outspoken black man?”

Oh my god get a life you loser! How do you know he’s innocent. Lets see your evidence proving his innocence . Have you never heard of an athlete lie and deny guilt to avoid punishment an ridicule. And that race card garbage is so old that I can’t even believe you even brought that up, It’s truly dumbest, most ignorant, naive, idiotic, ridiculous thing I have heard in defense of this lying POS. how cowardly to try and blame the color of his skin for peoples opinion of him. people like you make the world a loop hole for liars to blame guilt on race. maybe he should have just blamed it on the cream and the clear, or maybe somebody Misremembered when talking to Goodell.

By: jason1980

jason1980 — Wed, 10 Oct 2012 02:41:25 +0000

If another poster says, “who cares about this issue”, I’m gonna puke. If you didn’t care, you wouldn’t post your comment. You obviously care about all things SAINTS, can’t blame you. Everybody loves to hate a winner. How many teams in the NFL could weather the storm that the Saints have endured this season. 1-4, yet only losing those games by a touch down or less. You haters should thank Mr. Goodell, especially the Falcons. In the large scheme of things they really don’t matter because they will crash and burn in their first playoff game. It’s how they roll.

By: bathroomben7

bathroomben7 — Wed, 10 Oct 2012 02:40:08 +0000

“…has cast an unfair cloud over a fine and decent man.” ROFL. The freakin’ Jets thought this guy was a pile of crap and lost patience with him. The Jets! That’s how he got on the Saints to offer bounties in the first place.

By: mazblast

mazblast — Wed, 10 Oct 2012 02:27:44 +0000

geauxsaintsforever said:

At first I thought he was just a lunatic, but now it’s apparent someone in the Saints organization must have slept with his wife or something.
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Imagine being married to such a putz. The money can’t be worth it.

By: thelastpieceofcheese

thelastpieceofcheese — Wed, 10 Oct 2012 02:27:31 +0000

” SHARE THE EVIDENCE YOU HAVE SEEN.”

The evidence speaks for itself!

“Or do you just not like him because he doesn’t play for your team, he went to “Tha U,” or he’s an outspoken black man?”

I don’t like him because he is a liar!

By: onbucky96

onbucky96 — Wed, 10 Oct 2012 02:26:03 +0000

Says the defense attorney for the accused. Drop dead and take your lying cheating client with you.

By: andrewfbrowne

andrewfbrowne — Wed, 10 Oct 2012 02:21:59 +0000

Please just go away. I would rather watch political commercials at this point than read about this stuff any longer.

By: thisdj84

thisdj84 — Wed, 10 Oct 2012 02:20:28 +0000

why don’t these guys just take it like a men! They did it, they need to own it and shut up! There cheating got them a Super Bowl you would think that would be enough!

By: santolonius

santolonius — Wed, 10 Oct 2012 02:19:52 +0000

personally i believe vilma. a pft poll would be interesting to see where the court of public opinion comes down between these two.

By: conormacleod

conormacleod — Wed, 10 Oct 2012 02:19:14 +0000

Vilma and his lawyer say he’s innocent. Well, that’s good enough for me! But seriously, screw you and your lies Vilma.