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	<title>Comments on: Browns hope to end 11-game losing streak</title>
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		<title>By: coop16</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/14/browns-hope-to-end-11-game-losing-streak/#comment-2059528</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2012 13:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a Browns fan, I am just absolutely astonished that this team can stay so bad for so long.  The Houston Texans are younger than the expansion Browns; the Texans went from bad team to mediocre team to promising team to powerhouse team over the years, while the Browns have gone from bad team to worse team to pathetic team to hopeless team.  I just don&#039;t see how you manage to do that in a league that has a salary cap, free agency and a player draft.  After 14 years of &quot;building,&quot; they&#039;re still basically a first-year expansion team.  Anybody out there believe in curses?  Voodoo?  Poisoned water at the Berea facility?  I&#039;m looking for explanations here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Browns fan, I am just absolutely astonished that this team can stay so bad for so long.  The Houston Texans are younger than the expansion Browns; the Texans went from bad team to mediocre team to promising team to powerhouse team over the years, while the Browns have gone from bad team to worse team to pathetic team to hopeless team.  I just don&#8217;t see how you manage to do that in a league that has a salary cap, free agency and a player draft.  After 14 years of &#8220;building,&#8221; they&#8217;re still basically a first-year expansion team.  Anybody out there believe in curses?  Voodoo?  Poisoned water at the Berea facility?  I&#8217;m looking for explanations here.</p>
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		<title>By: johnnyb1976</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[johnnyb1976]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2012 13:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joetoronto is not just an idiot on the bengals blogs he&#039;s an idiot on the browns blogs as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joetoronto is not just an idiot on the bengals blogs he&#8217;s an idiot on the browns blogs as well.</p>
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		<title>By: bradybbgoat</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2012 13:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Holmgren, Heckert and Shurmur need to go. 

When that happens, it going to be all on Haslam to make the right choice. I believe he is capable of doing so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holmgren, Heckert and Shurmur need to go. </p>
<p>When that happens, it going to be all on Haslam to make the right choice. I believe he is capable of doing so.</p>
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		<title>By: joetoronto</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joetoronto]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2012 13:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[coltzfan166 says:
Oct 14, 2012 12:36 AM
I’m going to keep saying this on every Browns’ article until ownership finally reads it and gives in. Hire Brian Billick and draft Matt Barkley.

This comes from a Colts fan that is tired of always watching Cleveland lose. Unless of course they’re playing the Colts.
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Brian Billick?

The same Brian Billick that went to the Ravens known as an &quot;offensive guru&quot; and produced one of the worst offenses of all time?

THAT Brian Billick?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>coltzfan166 says:<br />
Oct 14, 2012 12:36 AM<br />
I’m going to keep saying this on every Browns’ article until ownership finally reads it and gives in. Hire Brian Billick and draft Matt Barkley.</p>
<p>This comes from a Colts fan that is tired of always watching Cleveland lose. Unless of course they’re playing the Colts.<br />
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Brian Billick?</p>
<p>The same Brian Billick that went to the Ravens known as an &#8220;offensive guru&#8221; and produced one of the worst offenses of all time?</p>
<p>THAT Brian Billick?</p>
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		<title>By: civilwarfish</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2012 12:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mattyc says:
Oct 14, 2012 6:27 AM
I’m a life long Browns fan. Until an owner (hopefully Haslam) understands that this is an expansion team &amp; stops trying to recreate the old Browns, nothing will work. I hope Haslam makes the changes necessary:
New Uniforms (Brown helmet specifically)
Retractable Roof
Cheerleaders
A HC that actually has won an NFL Playoff Game
Continuity – We can’t play musical personnel &amp; expect to develop draftees that don’t stay more than 2 seasons!

Shurmur hasn’t got the slightest idea of how to win a game at this level. How the hell is he going to coach kids &amp; teach them how to?

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Leave the helmet alone. We paid dearly to retain our history. You may not cherish the Orange and Brown and the lack of logo, but I for one do. Uniform design could work, done smartly, but the orange helmet without logo is a timeless design. It says BROWNS. it doesnt need more.

I&#039;m not sure about a roof. I was against it at all but thee most recent concept, that of a geodesic dome to enclose the stadium...is intriguing. It would be very different, and would still allow an open air stadium feel, while shielding from the weather. But its our weather that makes us who we are.

Cheerleaders...a nice diversion but so what? Win...thats the best way to keep spirit going. The Dawg Pound is the best because we already know how to cheer.

I think Shurmur is untested but so far I havent seen what I would call potential. Of course he hasnt had a lot to coach. But to hire someone who has been down the road isnt always the best idea. New blood is not a bad thing.

Continuity you hit right square. We cannot keep changing our staff and hope to get things going.

Give Shurmur and Heckert a chance. I can see Holmgren going, but give him his due...he brought Heckert here and that alone was enough to build legacy.

The Browns are coming. Let them keep coming

GO BROWNS!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mattyc says:<br />
Oct 14, 2012 6:27 AM<br />
I’m a life long Browns fan. Until an owner (hopefully Haslam) understands that this is an expansion team &amp; stops trying to recreate the old Browns, nothing will work. I hope Haslam makes the changes necessary:<br />
New Uniforms (Brown helmet specifically)<br />
Retractable Roof<br />
Cheerleaders<br />
A HC that actually has won an NFL Playoff Game<br />
Continuity – We can’t play musical personnel &amp; expect to develop draftees that don’t stay more than 2 seasons!</p>
<p>Shurmur hasn’t got the slightest idea of how to win a game at this level. How the hell is he going to coach kids &amp; teach them how to?</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>Leave the helmet alone. We paid dearly to retain our history. You may not cherish the Orange and Brown and the lack of logo, but I for one do. Uniform design could work, done smartly, but the orange helmet without logo is a timeless design. It says BROWNS. it doesnt need more.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure about a roof. I was against it at all but thee most recent concept, that of a geodesic dome to enclose the stadium&#8230;is intriguing. It would be very different, and would still allow an open air stadium feel, while shielding from the weather. But its our weather that makes us who we are.</p>
<p>Cheerleaders&#8230;a nice diversion but so what? Win&#8230;thats the best way to keep spirit going. The Dawg Pound is the best because we already know how to cheer.</p>
<p>I think Shurmur is untested but so far I havent seen what I would call potential. Of course he hasnt had a lot to coach. But to hire someone who has been down the road isnt always the best idea. New blood is not a bad thing.</p>
<p>Continuity you hit right square. We cannot keep changing our staff and hope to get things going.</p>
<p>Give Shurmur and Heckert a chance. I can see Holmgren going, but give him his due&#8230;he brought Heckert here and that alone was enough to build legacy.</p>
<p>The Browns are coming. Let them keep coming</p>
<p>GO BROWNS!</p>
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		<title>By: pabrownsfan</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2012 12:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OUCH OUCH OUCH]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OUCH OUCH OUCH</p>
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		<title>By: petehemlock</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2012 12:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[L.A. Browns?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>L.A. Browns?</p>
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		<title>By: lightcleric</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lightcleric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2012 11:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s just a shame because they really aren&#039;t built for the future either.  They took a 28 year old QB and a running back, a position that wears down very quickly, and stuck them on a bad team.

I hope the new ownership turns this around and fires The Walrus. You guys deserve better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s just a shame because they really aren&#8217;t built for the future either.  They took a 28 year old QB and a running back, a position that wears down very quickly, and stuck them on a bad team.</p>
<p>I hope the new ownership turns this around and fires The Walrus. You guys deserve better.</p>
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		<title>By: fearthebengaltiger</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fearthebengaltiger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2012 11:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i know that cleveland is due for a win big time, but please not today!...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i know that cleveland is due for a win big time, but please not today!&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mattyc</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mattyc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2012 10:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m a life long Browns fan. Until an owner (hopefully Haslam) understands that this is an expansion team &amp; stops trying to recreate the old Browns, nothing will work. I hope Haslam makes the changes necessary:
New Uniforms (Brown helmet specifically)
Retractable Roof
Cheerleaders
A HC that actually has won an NFL Playoff Game
Continuity - We can&#039;t play musical personnel &amp; expect to develop draftees that don&#039;t stay more than 2 seasons!

Shurmur hasn&#039;t got the slightest idea of how to win a game at this level. How the hell is he going to coach kids &amp; teach them how to?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a life long Browns fan. Until an owner (hopefully Haslam) understands that this is an expansion team &amp; stops trying to recreate the old Browns, nothing will work. I hope Haslam makes the changes necessary:<br />
New Uniforms (Brown helmet specifically)<br />
Retractable Roof<br />
Cheerleaders<br />
A HC that actually has won an NFL Playoff Game<br />
Continuity &#8211; We can&#8217;t play musical personnel &amp; expect to develop draftees that don&#8217;t stay more than 2 seasons!</p>
<p>Shurmur hasn&#8217;t got the slightest idea of how to win a game at this level. How the hell is he going to coach kids &amp; teach them how to?</p>
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		<title>By: bartpkelly</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bartpkelly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Loses are adding up but the talent level is adding up as well. They will probably get a new coach and  fornt office next year and be successful, and then the comments of &#039;Holmgren built the team&#039; will start. 
It will remind me of Gruden and Dungy winning with other people&#039;s teams.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loses are adding up but the talent level is adding up as well. They will probably get a new coach and  fornt office next year and be successful, and then the comments of &#8216;Holmgren built the team&#8217; will start.<br />
It will remind me of Gruden and Dungy winning with other people&#8217;s teams.</p>
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		<title>By: brownsfandrinkingmakersmark</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[brownsfandrinkingmakersmark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2012 07:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unfortunately, &quot;hope&quot; is the only strategy this coaching staff comes up with week to week.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, &#8220;hope&#8221; is the only strategy this coaching staff comes up with week to week.</p>
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		<title>By: franklinandbashandflorio</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[franklinandbashandflorio]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2012 06:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe if they changed their name things can change for the better.  Why have a name that represents baby diarrhea or dog poop.  Why not just have Mr. Hanky as your Mascot?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe if they changed their name things can change for the better.  Why have a name that represents baby diarrhea or dog poop.  Why not just have Mr. Hanky as your Mascot?</p>
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		<title>By: 4evrnyt</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[4evrnyt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2012 05:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seriously and this isn&#039;t a knock on those that are but how does this team still have any fans?  What in the hell is there to ever cheer for?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously and this isn&#8217;t a knock on those that are but how does this team still have any fans?  What in the hell is there to ever cheer for?</p>
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		<title>By: joemammy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joemammy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2012 04:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Damned right, Florio!   Whatever it takes...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damned right, Florio!   Whatever it takes&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bobzilla1001</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bobzilla1001]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2012 04:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I think of the Browns, I think of ``0-for-16.&#039;&#039; That&#039;s how many consecutive defeats the Steelers put on the Browns at Three Rivers Stadium from 1970 until 1986.
That&#039;s a remarkable streak that&#039;s never mentioned.
Bill Livingston of the Pain Dealer recently revealed that, when the NFL and AFL merged, Art Modell switched his franchise from the NFC to the AFC because he thought that would be the easiest road to a Super Bowl.
Livingston pointed out that Modell hadn&#039;t figured on the Steelers becoming ``the monsters&#039;&#039; that they became in the 1970s...
Surprise!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I think of the Browns, I think of &#8220;0-for-16.&#8221; That&#8217;s how many consecutive defeats the Steelers put on the Browns at Three Rivers Stadium from 1970 until 1986.<br />
That&#8217;s a remarkable streak that&#8217;s never mentioned.<br />
Bill Livingston of the Pain Dealer recently revealed that, when the NFL and AFL merged, Art Modell switched his franchise from the NFC to the AFC because he thought that would be the easiest road to a Super Bowl.<br />
Livingston pointed out that Modell hadn&#8217;t figured on the Steelers becoming &#8220;the monsters&#8221; that they became in the 1970s&#8230;<br />
Surprise!!!</p>
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		<title>By: coltzfan166</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[coltzfan166]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2012 04:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m going to keep saying this on every Browns&#039; article until ownership finally reads it and gives in. Hire Brian Billick and draft Matt Barkley. 

This comes from a Colts fan that is tired of always watching Cleveland lose. Unless of course they&#039;re playing the Colts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to keep saying this on every Browns&#8217; article until ownership finally reads it and gives in. Hire Brian Billick and draft Matt Barkley. </p>
<p>This comes from a Colts fan that is tired of always watching Cleveland lose. Unless of course they&#8217;re playing the Colts.</p>
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