If you we’re a real leader, you would have stood up to your team and coach when they were going all bounty.

To all the folk that think that because the players agreed to a bad process that has been abused by an unfair and biased commissioner:

I just love your American spirit in wanting to continue to live and tolerate a blatantly bad and unfair system. Your forefathers would have been soooo proud of you.

Revolution? No thanks, we signed up for a King. We cannot change that.

And I don’t mean Peter King.
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Huh? What you don’t mention is that the players agreed to this. They weren’t coerced into signing. They made the choice and it’s legal. There was quid pro quo. They were sold out by their legal representation. They gave away their rights for chump change. But that’s what Maurice Smith wanted. He kept the players fat, dumb and happy with some additional pocket money. Their complaint should be with the chapeau-wearing poor excuse of an attorney, Maurice Smith.

I just love your American spirit in wanting to continue to live and tolerate a blatantly bad and unfair system. Your forefathers would have been soooo proud of you.

Revolution? No thanks, we signed up for a King. We cannot change that.

And I don’t mean Peter King.

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Sean Peyton hasn’t been silent he told the media the hardest part of this whole thing is hearing all the lie’s about him. Then y’all called him a lier. Y’all only hear what y’all want to hear. Like when Goodell suspended Fujita for 4 games for his part in the Bounty program but now he put it to 1 game because his can’t find any proof that he had part in the bounty but he should have said something. Goodell is the only one who keeps getting proven to be a lier

how about Buddy Ryan? (lol)

or, Pete Rose? (it would give him another sheet of paper to sell, lol)

if I were one of the other hundreds of players on the other side of this coin, I’d be asking the NFLPA why they are representing these 4 losers instead of backing out due to a conflict of interest.

Except that Sean Payton doesn’t have a union or CBA to deal with…so, if he’s so innocent, why didn’t he have his lawyer take it to the courts?

it would be far easier for a judge to rule in his case since there’s no CBA.

but, alas, he hasn’t. Which is a simple fact of the matter. And it speaks volumes.

if it didn’t happen, then why isn’t he being a man about it and fighting back?

If you’re paying a QB $15 million a year, and Vilma comes and takes him out (or offers to pay someone to take him out) for the season, you just lost $15 million.

I say sue Vilma.

Fundamentally, your argument is flawed. “Goodell must be fair during the process” is entirely subjective. Courts do not take things like that into account. They look at the facts at face value and interpret contracts (the CBA) solely on the language within a contract. The facts are that the players agreed to allow Goodell to have the power to discipline players as he sees fit. Just because a player doesn’t agree with the punishment he was given doesn’t mean that said player can throw out a contract that his own representatives negotiated for him and he ultimately agreed upon.

On top of all that, the court would have to set a precedent that says a private business cannot discipline their employees. If that was to happen, it is theoretically possible that any employee of any business would be able to get out of their own wrongdoings without their employer having a say in it. Not to mention the precedent that the court would set by allowing unions to alter their collectively bargained contracts after the contracts are already in play. In other words, its not going to happen.

I would LOSE respect for Goodell if he punted this to someone else which he thankfully won’t do, especially somebody with less access to the full investigation. It makes the most sense for him to do what he’s done for every other case. Baseless complaining doesn’t change that.

Vilma wants to take advantage of any method he can use to reduce the information discovered and admitted by multiple people against him and the whole program. Remember, HE himself admitted cartoffs were exactly what the league said which the Saints denied for months.

Vilma think he can abuse enough technicalities legally to delay the process despite having no substantial argument against the evidence. Funny how Williams testifies and Vilma starts complaining about “no physical evidence” when previously he tried to use the players court testimony as evidence like they can’t lie or at least use evasive language like they clearly have.

Overall I’m glad Goodell is handling this because I know the chances are the players won’t suffer no punishment due to delaying it via one attempted loophole after another. Vilma’s guilty and can’t avoid it, he could avoid making himself look worse but we all know that doesn’t matter as long as he gets as many game checks as possible. I do wonder how far the NFLPA will go though considering how embarrassing it’s been when they attack a process they’re not even nearly fully informed about.

I am so sick of Vilma, Brees, Smith, etc.

Go Owners!

Yea, the part of the CBA where it says Goodell has to prove they are guilty not just say they are. THe CBA says Goodell has to turn over all evidence that he plans on using to the players 3 days before the appeals. On the last appeals all evidence he gave the palyers turn up false but he said he still had proof but was keaping it to his self due to not wan’t to say where he got it. The cats out on who came foward so lets see if Goodell is going to follow the rules this time. Everyone keeps saying that the players need to follow the CBA but Goodell can do what he wants

Next time just say “FIRST!”

Okay, I must have missed the part where it says that Goodell must be “fair”. And besides, according to the CBA, who do you think would be assigned to judge of whether or not something is fair??? Hmmmm…. one guess… (Hint: It’s not the accused players)…

Thats right… It would be Goodell!

This is awesome… Can’t wait to see Vilma play on sunday.. Also can someone please film the look on Goodells face when Vilma does in fact run onto the field? To those who defend the league in this “bounty” bs , How is it that one man is easily handling one of the biggest corporations in the planet, in the court rooms?
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Uhhhh, because the law protects everyone, right or wrong, especially if they have money. Vilma is just stalling attempting to stay employed but he’ll get it in the end.