Comments on: Norv Turner: It starts with the coaching http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/16/norv-turner-it-starts-with-the-coaching/ ProFootballTalk on NBCSports.com Sat, 25 May 2013 00:17:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: brassknuckles47 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/16/norv-turner-it-starts-with-the-coaching/#comment-2068923 Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:07:08 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1421008#comment-2068923 Food For Thought:
At the beginning of last season many of us thought (and saw) a problem with Rivers arm……a possible injury. Philip claimed no injury, so we let it go. However, there has been, in that same time line, no zip on his throws, and maybe the problem with Philip is he was injured, never returned to his old form, and he still thinks he can get balls into holes that he once did….but the reality is he cant, therefore he is throwing interceptions with a rubberband arm.

Just a thought……

]]> By: broncosnative http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/16/norv-turner-it-starts-with-the-coaching/#comment-2066957 Wed, 17 Oct 2012 15:20:13 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1421008#comment-2066957 The charger fired their best coach, Marty after a 14-2 season for a former raider coach, Norv who was bad then and worse now. Norv hasn’t even came close to the success Marty had and if they’d kept him, chargers would probably have 2 or 3 rings now. As a bronco fan, I not a shame to say they were that good with MS and they were moving in the right direction and they were only gonna get better. Now, rivers is out of his prime when he should’ve been elite at this point in his career. The owener is stubborn and hasn’t done anything to turn things around, no wonder they can’t sell out, I don’t blame the fans for not going to the games and this Monday night lost just may have put the nail in the coffin for the fans

]]> By: boyshole25 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/16/norv-turner-it-starts-with-the-coaching/#comment-2066929 Wed, 17 Oct 2012 15:00:30 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1421008#comment-2066929 Bet ya miss Marty-ball now eh San Diego? Stupidest decision I’ve ever seen

]]> By: thesmartestmanever http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/16/norv-turner-it-starts-with-the-coaching/#comment-2066669 Wed, 17 Oct 2012 12:48:08 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1421008#comment-2066669 funny thing someone posted that Norv was quoting his eventual replacement Andy Reid. I would go so far as to say Jason Garret was quoting his eventual replacement Norv Turner

]]> By: eaglesfan29 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/16/norv-turner-it-starts-with-the-coaching/#comment-2066664 Wed, 17 Oct 2012 12:45:39 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1421008#comment-2066664 Rivers is garbage and always getting a pass. He had over 20 INTs last year he is a turnover machine. 6 turnover by one person a least Vick give his team a chance to win. But you will not here anyone say make a change at qB cause rivers is elite lol

]]> By: eagleswin http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/16/norv-turner-it-starts-with-the-coaching/#comment-2066588 Wed, 17 Oct 2012 11:58:44 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1421008#comment-2066588 Norv’s never been a good head coach, a good OC but never a head coach. What he excels at is being a YES man and not making waves. When AJ tells him to jump he asks how high. That’s his most endearing quality to Chargers brass.

]]> By: bangitfootball http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/16/norv-turner-it-starts-with-the-coaching/#comment-2066566 Wed, 17 Oct 2012 11:39:30 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1421008#comment-2066566 Mart Schottenheimer had this team rolling. He NEVER should have been let go. What a dumb decision because 2 boys couldnt play in the sand box together..

]]> By: nashwaakkidd http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/16/norv-turner-it-starts-with-the-coaching/#comment-2066547 Wed, 17 Oct 2012 10:58:22 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1421008#comment-2066547 big changes i think coming in sd. coach and gmwill surely be gassed. and what of rivers with his shotputt like throwing motion? great touch passer, but no zip whatsoever on his balls.

]]> By: steve946 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/16/norv-turner-it-starts-with-the-coaching/#comment-2066492 Wed, 17 Oct 2012 09:06:07 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1421008#comment-2066492 Gene Klein gutted the Chargers in preparation for sale to Dean Spanos. The Spanos team, with a Jr. High coach in the front office, have made a big mess. Reaching the SB was a testimony to talent on the field, not management. Back in the day, I used to say “What’s wrong with the Chargers is they lost three of their best men: Joe Gibbs, Sid Gilman and Tommy Prothro”. Still true. The only way to fix this team is to fire Smith, Turner and Rivers.

]]> By: joetoronto http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/16/norv-turner-it-starts-with-the-coaching/#comment-2066489 Wed, 17 Oct 2012 08:48:17 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1421008#comment-2066489 Alex Spanos will NOT fire someone under contract, he’s just too cheap.

That’s not hating, that’s the truth.

You Charger fans that want AJ Smith and Norval gone will have to wait until their contracts are up.

]]> By: lobzila http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/16/norv-turner-it-starts-with-the-coaching/#comment-2066477 Wed, 17 Oct 2012 06:55:22 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1421008#comment-2066477 I remember watching the first Mission Valley Meltdown (Chargers vs Pats, playoffs 2006) and thinking this team will never live this failure down. Last night, my team proved me wrong. Marty gets canned for going 14-2 and losing in the play offs and yet Norv Turnover still has a job? Someone explain that to me. Rivers is making how much to play like that? I thought maybe Pagano’s defense would step up and preserve the win, but what happened there?
So much talent on this team and yet, they play like this?
Not sure Gruden is the answer, but a new coaching staff and maybe even new QB are in order. Is there another Harbaugh brother out there looking for work?

]]> By: ambitoos http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/16/norv-turner-it-starts-with-the-coaching/#comment-2066458 Wed, 17 Oct 2012 05:52:26 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1421008#comment-2066458 Dear Mr. Spanos. Time to tear it down and start over. I hear Marty is available.

]]> By: mrgroovesd http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/16/norv-turner-it-starts-with-the-coaching/#comment-2066453 Wed, 17 Oct 2012 05:36:57 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1421008#comment-2066453 Was it me or Jon Gruden had a hard on in the first half for the Bolts. He was smiling in the second half cause he knew he might have a new job coaching on the west coast somewhere in CA and it’s not his old job either at Oak.

]]> By: hboc01 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/16/norv-turner-it-starts-with-the-coaching/#comment-2066443 Wed, 17 Oct 2012 05:19:50 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1421008#comment-2066443 Norvocain can’t take the full blame for this, although he’s a huge part of that loss. Why doesn’t Rivers catch the same flack that Romo does?

]]> By: spfripp http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/16/norv-turner-it-starts-with-the-coaching/#comment-2066440 Wed, 17 Oct 2012 05:06:25 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1421008#comment-2066440 Rivers played a poor game but it did not stop with him. Two of his INTs was the receivers fault. Norv is right, when you have guys committing penalty after penalty, fumbling, dropping passes and going away from the basics of football it becomes the reflection of the coach. Where he is wrong though is that he needs to take a more conservative approach. That is sending a message to his players that he does not have confidence in them. That is poor leadership. The team is losing because they are not staying with the fundamentals.

]]> By: clubergo http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/16/norv-turner-it-starts-with-the-coaching/#comment-2066413 Wed, 17 Oct 2012 04:26:23 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1421008#comment-2066413 how is Rivers better than Leaf? I guess Archie was right “no commitment to winning” so how did that work out?

]]> By: blackdonnelly http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/16/norv-turner-it-starts-with-the-coaching/#comment-2066387 Wed, 17 Oct 2012 04:00:47 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1421008#comment-2066387 Ummmm…….Norv? A second of your time, please, kind sir?

Last night’s stellar example of absolutely giving a game away is what we call “a blinding flash of the obvious” in regards to the apparent coaching issues with Sandy Eggo, but many thanks for clearing that up for us uninformed types.

And tell AJ “Whaddup dog?” for me, please.
Have a nice day.

]]> By: pemory http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/16/norv-turner-it-starts-with-the-coaching/#comment-2066384 Wed, 17 Oct 2012 03:58:55 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1421008#comment-2066384 And one more thing: if you own a football team, say the Chargers, and you decide to bring-back an ineffective coach & GM, say Norv & A.J., and fans on message boards like this one write things like: “Dear Chargers, good move bringing-back Norv & A.J., signed Broncos, Chiefs, & Raiders,” then you have to know that you have absolutely no idea what you’re doing and that this was a very bad move. Get a clue Chargers brass!

]]> By: pemory http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/16/norv-turner-it-starts-with-the-coaching/#comment-2066369 Wed, 17 Oct 2012 03:50:39 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1421008#comment-2066369 I think that, quite possibly, Monday night was the lowest point in franchise history.

]]> By: mikeeg http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/16/norv-turner-it-starts-with-the-coaching/#comment-2066346 Wed, 17 Oct 2012 03:33:50 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1421008#comment-2066346 He was fired from the Raiders. Wasn’t that enough of a red flag for Chargers GM?!?!

]]> By: inkpad619 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/16/norv-turner-it-starts-with-the-coaching/#comment-2066337 Wed, 17 Oct 2012 03:27:46 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1421008#comment-2066337 I hope it does start with the coaching…pink slips, that is. norv will never be a good HC and rivers looks pretty mediocre now that he doesnt have WR making him look elite

]]> By: ripseau http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/16/norv-turner-it-starts-with-the-coaching/#comment-2066327 Wed, 17 Oct 2012 03:22:00 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1421008#comment-2066327 Yeah. We have a horrible oline, new receivers for rivers to get used to, and a struggling rivers. Yeah let’s do 7 step drops and chuck em deep! Sounds logical right? Hopefully a more conservative approach will change the momentum of this team. Hopefully at the end of the year we look back at that collapse as the turning point of the season. Eh, probably not though. I hate defending my team when they pull this crap

]]> By: konichiwabtches http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/16/norv-turner-it-starts-with-the-coaching/#comment-2066274 Wed, 17 Oct 2012 02:43:14 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1421008#comment-2066274 That press confrence was classic!! He was quick to throw Rivers under the bus, blaming his turnovers as the whole reason for the loss.
Yeah rivers looked horrible and missed routes, under threw reviewers, but most of those errors were because he was forced to try and pull something out of the air on 3rd and long or execute low percentage down field pass plays.

Yeah it atarts with the coaching Norm ..because the truth is that he is a horrible head coach, his play calling is atrocious ..he gets lucky sometimes and they win against sub par teams, but everyone else in the league whipes their ass with them.

He never would have lasted this long anywhere else, he should have been gone long ago..Hell even Al Davis had the sense to whack him.

]]> By: krycek21 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/16/norv-turner-it-starts-with-the-coaching/#comment-2066259 Wed, 17 Oct 2012 02:27:06 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1421008#comment-2066259 Or not…I think the SD brass are just happy to be there, not realizing the franchise has been a bottom feeder for several years. Norv is to offense as Dave Wandstedt is to defense, that was not Jimmy Johnson Tree, more like bad kudzu.

]]> By: journeyfan99 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/16/norv-turner-it-starts-with-the-coaching/#comment-2066247 Wed, 17 Oct 2012 02:13:48 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1421008#comment-2066247 Don’t worry, you’ll get your chance to change coaches again this off season. Hello Andy Reid, welcome to San Diego.

]]> By: fordmandalay http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/16/norv-turner-it-starts-with-the-coaching/#comment-2066243 Wed, 17 Oct 2012 02:10:48 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1421008#comment-2066243 Wow, he’s actually Captain Norv Obvious! Yeah Norv, it starts with the coaching. And the coach may end because of it.

]]> By: tonyricemajorharris http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/16/norv-turner-it-starts-with-the-coaching/#comment-2066235 Wed, 17 Oct 2012 02:03:38 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1421008#comment-2066235 AJ and Norv- you two clowns should feel guilty every time you cash your paycheck.

]]> By: skinsfaninnebraska http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/16/norv-turner-it-starts-with-the-coaching/#comment-2066230 Wed, 17 Oct 2012 02:01:36 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1421008#comment-2066230 I still can’t believe SD ever hired him in the first place.

How could they have ignored the consistent mediocrity that his teams were mired in when he was in charge at Washington and Oakland?

Whatever “it” is that makes a head coach successful in the NFL, Norv Turner does NOT possess it!

]]> By: loulemagne http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/16/norv-turner-it-starts-with-the-coaching/#comment-2066228 Wed, 17 Oct 2012 02:00:33 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1421008#comment-2066228 hey this video is an accurate depiction of the
state of the Chargers

]]> By: nmrdr795 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/16/norv-turner-it-starts-with-the-coaching/#comment-2066216 Wed, 17 Oct 2012 01:52:56 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1421008#comment-2066216 Norv turned that stadium into nocomm.

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