Despite the fact that Shurmur was more of a Holmgren hire if they fire Shurmur they probably won’t want one of the people who allowed that hire in the first place to have say in the next Browns coach. It makes sense. Hopefully that won’t happen but it’s not like the potential new GM/head coach will be inheriting a horrible team. With the level of coaching talent on the Browns staff, the new coach (if there is one) could easily be on the current staff already.

Got to love people who hold others to a standard but not themselves…sorry Jimmy, the truckstop owner, if is wrong for Lerners to make changes, it’s wrong for you to make changes too.

The Browns are just over half way through the rebuilding project Holmgren and Heckert started in 2010…we are in year 3 of the 5 year plan.

Haslam says he learned “the Steeler Way” while he was their minority owner…

…did Dan Rooney fire Chuck Noll when he didn’t produce a winning team in his first 3 years as the Steelers coach?

Haslam hired Joe ‘the bean counter’ Banner after he was fired from the Eagles and no one offered Banner a job.

Why did Haslam hire Banner?…because he had to…

…Banner put his money in the pot of the investors group that bought the Browns…Banner “bought” himself a job after no one would hire him.

Who could blame the players if they ‘tanked it’ the rest of the season…no sense in risking injury when you know it’s likely Haslam and Banner will fire everyone.

Change is the enemy of the Browns…and Haslam is no different than the Lerners when it comes to ripping things up before they have even had a chance to succeed.

As a lifelong Browns fan, since 1961…I wish Haslam and Banner would have bought the Steelers and not the Browns.

Haslam ushers in a new era of changes and losing, just like the Lerners.

“the Pittsburgh Browns” has a nice ring to it… I’m sure the Cleveland fan base wouldn’t mind that one bit.

— Tom Heckert

it also seemed that banner (and i suspect reid) had decided to replace heckert with roseman, and were not unhappy when cleveland gave him a promotion he was never getting in philly.

so heckert is probably correct in his assumption. nonetheless, he would have been better to keep his assumption to himself, and made sure that the fact he is putting out feelers was kept on the down low.

I’m a Patriots fan and I agree with this 100% sounds weird I know. Pats fans are made up of a lot of spoiled band-wagoners that want Belichick and Brady to leave after every loss. I’ve seen calls for Ryan Mallet. Seriously. They have no perspective anymore. It’s a very ungrateful fanbase in general.

Pats games used to be blacked out every Sunday and with this ungrateful bandwagon filled fanbase once Brady and Belichick leave and the team falls back to being mediocre the games will be blacked out again. Count on it.

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I see your point, but keep in mind Haslem only owned about 1/16th of the Steelers. He wanted to be a sole owner of an NFL team so he could call the shots. That was never going to happen in Pittsburgh.

If they get an experienced and accomplished head coach, the expectations will be too high and he’s more likely to be complacent with a big contract. If they get a younger coach, he won’t be around long enough to learn from his own failures. Cleveland needs continuity, not some imaginary silver bullet new hires that somehow won’t have any of the drawbacks or make any of the mistakes of everyone else of the last 14 years.

With less weapons and a weaker o-line than Brandie Weeden.

Let’s blow this thing up so we can create some stability!

Great news we finally get a guy who can draft n they might let him go. Gotta love rebuilding!!!

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Dude, the team is 1-5 and this is his 3rd year.

A shame someone else will come in and most likely set the team back another 2 years as they build it their way.

Stability is so key to success (Steelers, Patriots) and the browns keep changing dance partners every 3-4 years.