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Vilma’s latest court filing sheds more light on Kennedy’s role

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Former Vikings defensive tackle Jimmy Kennedy was outed last week as the original bounty whistleblower, but he claims that he never was in.In documents filed in federal court on Monday, the lawyer representing Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma spells out various details regarding Kennedy’s role, or lack thereof, in the bounty case.
In a sworn declaration, lawyer Peter Ginsberg lists several facts that Kennedy shared with Ginsberg.

First, Kennedy said he never discussed a supposed bounty program with anyone — including NFL investigators or former Vikings coach Brad Childress.

Second, Kennedy said that, at halftime of the 2009 NFC title game, he screamed at his teammates:  “These m*****f***’ers are killing our quarterback as if there’s money on it.  These m*****f***’ers are killing us and we better start playing some ******* football.”

Third, Kennedy said he didn’t have any reason to believe that the Saints had a bounty on former Vikings quarterback Brett Favre.

Fourth, Kennedy said he didn’t speak with former Saints defensive end Anthony Hargrove at any time before or after the game, contrary to a contention that Hargrove told Kennedy of the existence of the bounty on Favre.

Fifth, Kennedy said neither Hargrove nor anyone else told Kennedy that there was a “bounty” on Favre.

Sixth, Kennedy said he never talked to Childress about the Saints having a bounty on Favre, contrary to the league contention that Kennedy told Childress about the bounty.

Seventh, Kennedy said the NFL never interviewed him, contrary to the NFL’s contentions.

Eighth, Kennedy said that NFL investigator Joe Hummel called Kennedy twice, but that Kennedy never talked to Hummel about the situation.

Ninth, Kennedy said he’s not aware of Hummel ever calling Kennedy’s lawyer.

Tenth, Kennedy said he’s not aware that any members of the Saints offered $10,000 or any amount of money as an incentive to injure Favre.

If it’s true, it’s powerful stuff.  Still, it’s odd that Kennedy didn’t provide a written statement of his own.  With Ginsberg acting as the funnel of Kennedy’s claims to the court, Ginsberg could come dangerously close to becoming a witness — which would make it hard for him to continue being Vilma’s lawyer.

And if the NFL did indeed interview Kennedy, the evidence the league has been required to produce to the federal court in Louisiana surely would include at least some reference to Kennedy being interviewed, and regarding what he said.

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33 Responses to “Vilma’s latest court filing sheds more light on Kennedy’s role”
  1. timb12 says: Oct 16, 2012 8:20 PM

    I’m not saying he did or didn’t do it. But this just sounds like if you bring something up he says “Nope. That didn’t happen. Next”

  2. deeppurple23 says: Oct 16, 2012 8:22 PM

    That’s called “hearsay” and the court would require an affidavit.

  3. sampulls says: Oct 16, 2012 8:34 PM

    Vilma needs to go away forever!

  4. gtodriver says: Oct 16, 2012 8:43 PM

    “With Ginsberg acting as the funnel of Kennedy’s claims to the court, Ginsberg could come dangerously close to becoming a witness — which would make it hard for him to continue being Vilma’s lawyer.”

    This would be too funny…

    Ginsberg losing Vilma as a cash cow because of making unsubstantiated statements.

  5. silentcount says: Oct 16, 2012 8:49 PM

    So Goodell claims this is his whistleblower in his piles of evidence, but the guy denies hearing or saying anything to anyone. Hmmm, just proves Goodell is not to be trusted. At some point we’ll find out that Sean Payton did nothing to deserve a year’s suspension. Goodell made a big deal about nothing to deceive people into thinking he’s so interested in safety, instead of the extra money of 18 games. And yet, haters blame Vilma for fighting back, when in fact it’s Goodell who deserves their hate for creating this mess.

  6. hor2012 says: Oct 16, 2012 8:52 PM

    sampulls says

    Why does he have to go away. If this is true RG lied when he stated that Kennedy stated that he was told by a Saints player that they had a bounty of Frave. It seems to me that you may have some other issue with JV and of course you can feel free to color me wrong if you wish

  7. n001363 says: Oct 16, 2012 9:01 PM

    Villa, the game doesn’t need you. Your a nobody when the league gets rid of you like every other player. Pete Rose wouldn’t admit to betting on baseball; Lance Armstrong denied taking performance enhancing drugs, and when your careers over and you want some attention, you’ll squawk too.

  8. coachglove says: Oct 16, 2012 9:03 PM

    1) isn’t everything above hearsay? 2) either way, in court the league can call Ginsburg to cross him about his statement, which makes him a witness.

  9. teal379 says: Oct 16, 2012 9:22 PM

    Sounds like some of the players are playing a high stakes game of chicken.

    There’s a chance that the NFL doesn’t have evidence to back up their claims but if it comes out that Kennedy lied about not dealing with the NFL – it’s beyond stupid and I can believe players are beyond stupid. When/if it all comes out and if the players are blowing smoke on the whole thing due to bad legal advice or an incorrect assumption on public perception – it’s not going to end well for several of them.

    You don’t build a 9 billion dollar a year business by not being smart. I’ll take the billionaire owners over the players when it comes to who is smart enough to cover their butt on things like this.

  10. tincansailor981 says: Oct 16, 2012 9:29 PM

    Please, please can this all come to an end? Goody is a lying sack and the more it drags on, the more he’s being exposed as a fraud. I hope the owners see what this is and his other unilateral actions are doing to the league and get rid of his sorry behind.

    Villa, Fujita and Hargrove are done in the league, lets face it. They’re trying to clear their names, as is Kennedy. Williams and C-lo or whatever his name is are trying to curry favor to get back in the league.

    Finish this, please.

  11. stellarperformance says: Oct 16, 2012 9:42 PM

    Isn’t this Kennedy fellow the guy that was suspended for using PED’s? Oh yeah, we can believe anything he says. He’s not a liar or a cheat. Goodell must be pursuing the bounty case because he wants to intentionally tarnish the NFL and he doesn’t have anything else to do. Yeah, that’s the ticket!

  12. cjforpresident says: Oct 16, 2012 9:55 PM

    the longer this goes on… and the longer the NFL and Goodell shoots blanks at the wall… the more I think this whole thing is going to end up being a BIG BLACK EYE on the league… could end up costing Goodell his job. Call me insane? False evidence in court could have severe ramifications.

  13. saintsfan26 says: Oct 16, 2012 9:57 PM

    Hey Vikings fans,

    The Saints beat you in the NFC Championship game. It is not the Saints fault that you guys are 0-4 in Superbowls. You guys had plenty of chances and blew it over and over again. The Saints were simply the better team that year, and we proved it again the following year when we beat that *** on opening day, AGAIN.

    There was no bounty on Favre. Even if there was a bounty on Favre, there is still no reason for a 40 year old QB to be rolling out on a bootleg, holding the ball to long, and running towards the line of scrimmage while 2 defensive lineman are hot on his tail. Also, there is still no excuse for why the Vikings o-lineman did not block those Saints defenders better.

    Deal with it Vikings. You lost. The New Orleans Saints are, and will always be the 2009 World Champions, and there ain’t a damn thing that you, Brad Childress or Chris Kluwe can do about it. You want a ring? Earn it like the Saints did and quit crying.

  14. santolonius says: Oct 16, 2012 9:59 PM

    just on the body language of these two men i find vilma to be more believable than goodell. vilma’s actions are those of a man who absolutely believes he is innocent and will not let anyone say otherwise. goodell’s actions are those of a man who has thinks a briefcase and a suit are always right.

  15. packhawk04 says: Oct 16, 2012 10:02 PM

    Goodell needs to go. Obviously, an NFL player outing a program like that would never think of how he would be alienated in every locker room he ever goes into. Nope, just never did it because he says so.

  16. ripster65 says: Oct 16, 2012 10:02 PM

    *yaaawwwwnnnnnn* …somebody say “Vilma”?…..

  17. twisteditoff says: Oct 16, 2012 10:11 PM

    loseranians still suck from this point in time and will forever be knowen as cheaters

  18. bathroomben7 says: Oct 16, 2012 10:48 PM

    2009 World Champions*

  19. billsfan1 says: Oct 16, 2012 11:06 PM

    Saints fans… goodell is your proverbial Katrina…. Who dat!

  20. jazz11001 says: Oct 16, 2012 11:15 PM

    @saintfan26 – I have read many stupid statements yours just topped the list. There WAS a bounty your coaches have admitted that. It IS illegal however the word “legal” is as taboo in Louisiana as the word “education”. I am appalled that the Players association is actually standing up for the losers when their biggest goal is protecting the players. Incentive to win differs far from incentive to injure. That being said Brett has taken the high road in all of this showing that character has as much to do with the hall of fame as playing record and nobody on the Saints in this whole investigation will have an induction in Canton but Brett will. Tru Dat sucka!

  21. FinFan68 says: Oct 16, 2012 11:18 PM

    read point #8 again. why would the investigator call twice and then not talk about the bounty stuff? really? obviously the nfl was pointed to him from something said. unless they were randomly calling players from other teams…nah, dude is probably lying

  22. mnsportsfan says: Oct 16, 2012 11:51 PM

    saintsfan26 says:
    Oct 16, 2012 9:57 PM
    Hey Vikings fans,

    The Saints beat you in the NFC Championship game. It is not the Saints fault that you guys are 0-4 in Superbowls. You guys had plenty of chances and blew it over and over again. The Saints were simply the better team that year, and we proved it again the following year when we beat that *** on opening day, AGAIN.

    There was no bounty on Favre. Even if there was a bounty on Favre, there is still no reason for a 40 year old QB to be rolling out on a bootleg, holding the ball to long, and running towards the line of scrimmage while 2 defensive lineman are hot on his tail. Also, there is still no excuse for why the Vikings o-lineman did not block those Saints defenders better.

    Deal with it Vikings. You lost. The New Orleans Saints are, and will always be the 2009 World Champions, and there ain’t a damn thing that you, Brad Childress or Chris Kluwe can do about it. You want a ring? Earn it like the Saints did and quit crying.
    ————————————–
    Still waiting for the part where the Saints actually “earned” the ring. Couple of made of calls to get you to the Superbowl and throw some bounty stuff on top of it and you have the most classless team in the NFL. Your team, your coach and your ex-defensive coordinator are about as clean as the streets of Louisiana. I’ve moved past not making it or not winning but apparently you have to live in the past because it is clear to see the Saints whole team is falling further than Felix Baumgartner.

  23. cwwgk says: Oct 16, 2012 11:58 PM

    Classic example of a red herring. This would only be relevant if there was no other evidence of a bounty program. The statements of Gregg Williams, Mike Cerrullo, Sean Payton, Mickey Loomis and the players put that issue to rest.

    However, the maneuver provides good insight into the straws which Vilma is left trying to grasp. People accuse Goodell of manufacturing evidence and relying on hearsay. At least he’s provided witness statements to back up his allegations. Vilma’s lawyer can’t even do that. His representation of Kennedy’s version of events is the definition of hearsay. Not only that, Vilma’s lawyers wants to become a witness.

    Desperation at its finest.

  24. vikes8480 says: Oct 16, 2012 11:59 PM

    Saintsfan26,

    Bounty or not, the officiating was horrible in that game, especially in overtime. If you can’t admit that, then you obviously didn’t watch the game. I don’t want to hear your “Saints “earned” it” noise. The NFCCG was handed to you by Viking turnovers and the refs.

  25. jpmelon says: Oct 17, 2012 12:09 AM

    If the leagues memo is accurate that they did in fact speak with Kennedy (even if all he said to them was “no, that’s not true”)…then Ginsberg just lost his case for his client.

    The league may be stubborn and trying to stretch the truth to make an example out of the Saints….but Ginsberg is literally trying to make the case that the NFL pulled Kennedy’s name out of a hat when they decided to write the memo.

    Kennedy doesn’t want his name associated with bountygate….he has the incentive to lie to Ginsberg.

  26. goldrush36 says: Oct 17, 2012 1:07 AM

    Yes because snitches never deny….. being snitches. I’m not saying he did or didn’t. I’m saying just because Ginsberg is claiming he was told this doesn’t make it true.

  27. musicman495 says: Oct 17, 2012 2:22 AM

    gtodriver says: Oct 16, 2012 8:43 PM

    This would be too funny…

    Ginsberg losing Vilma as a cash cow because of making unsubstantiated statements.
    —————-
    For you and the other geniuses constantly talking about how much money Vilma is wasting on his attorney’s fees, you have no idea whatsoever whether Ginsberg is charging even $0.01 for his work. Of course, it would never occur to some people that a lawyer might work for free for a guy who is being railroaded and destroyed by his employer.

  28. lafayettesaint says: Oct 17, 2012 6:16 AM

    This is the garbage he had to come up with when he stated he had 50,000 pages of evidence.

  29. gtodriver says: Oct 17, 2012 7:23 AM

    musicman495 says:

    For you and the other geniuses constantly talking about how much money Vilma is wasting on his attorney’s fees, you have no idea whatsoever whether Ginsberg is charging even $0.01 for his work. Of course, it would never occur to some people that a lawyer might work for free for a guy who is being railroaded and destroyed by his employer.

    _________________________________

    There are many attorney’s that do “pro bono” work.

    But if you believe, for one second, that Ginsberg is working THIS case “pro bono”, I’ve got some swampland in Louisiana to sell you….

    Attorney’s like Ginsberg don’t work “pro bono” very often, if at all. And when, or if, they do – they don’t do it for folks that collect multi-million dollar paychecks.

    Is part of being a Saints* fan a requirement that you live in a fantasy world?

  30. miamiviking says: Oct 17, 2012 10:28 AM

    “Still, it’s odd that Kennedy didn’t provide a written statement of his own.”

    It’s actually pretty straightforward.

    I tell you that I am the King of Siam. You file an affidavit with a court saying I told you I am the King of Siam. Your affidavit is true, I did actually tell you that.

    If I filed an affidavit saying I am the King of Siam I’d be guilty of perjury because I am not actually the King of Siam.

    That is the most logical and simplest conclusion to reach because it is very odd an attorney would risk disqualification by making himself/herself a witness.

  31. willymikesam says: Oct 17, 2012 12:14 PM

    All you guys saying the nfl has solid evidence… Have you read the documents. It’s crazy stuff. I now understand why the players and fans have issues. Cerullo- fired for lying to get time off work. He told them his girlfriend was in a wreck and her friend was killed. Then he swore revenge because he thought Payton, Loomis and Vitt blacklisted him. His affidavit does not match Williams’ except in the amount Vilma supposedly offered, which had been in the news for months before his was written and half a year before Williams’. Vilma has nine affidavits saying it never happened. Williams’ new statement came out right before the hearing before reissue of punishment. He has never and did not now admit to pay for injury. He said he was running pay for performance and Vilma came in and offered a bounty on Favre. And right after that he could go to Rams games and there’s a new little bit to his indefinite ban that says he can apply for reinstatement after a year. Read docs if you are going to have a strong opinion, people. Know what you’re talking about.

  32. Dave61548 says: Oct 17, 2012 9:40 PM

    Nice post, willymikesam. Unfortunately, you are dealing with the “head in the sand” crowd, who have no time to actually read – they just take it on faith that Roger does no wrong. I mean, he was 100% accurate when he told us the replacement refs were doing a fine job, right?

  33. vegasvinnie says: Oct 18, 2012 11:25 PM

    billsfan1 says:
    Oct 16, 2012 11:06 PM
    Saints fans… goodell is your proverbial Katrina…. Who dat!

    ====================================

    Just as the Super Bowl is yours. Still want to make stupid comments?

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