Comments on: Jonathan Vilma practices, Jimmy Graham doesn’t

By: shaunypoo

shaunypoo — Thu, 18 Oct 2012 18:24:45 +0000

williambrasky says:
Oct 17, 2012 10:53 PM

If take a quotation out of context, change key wording, and add assumptions, you can easily reverse the meaning of someone’s words. You’ve posted this fallacious argument numerous times, so let the real facts be known. Honestly, you could probably throw this point out one, maybe, two more times and possibly fool a few more people. Your disregard for the truth is disturbing, but who can knock the solid effort?

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Sounds like politics to me.

By: williambrasky

williambrasky — Thu, 18 Oct 2012 02:53:08 +0000

In review of the discussion from the July 10th hearing, there was an instance where Judge Berrigan mentioned that she felt that “cart offs” were bounties, allowing the lawyers to discuss. Shortly after hearing Ginsberg’s comments, she tells Vilma that she would like to rule in his favor, but tells him that he has to exhaust all appeals. Berrigan has never released a formal decision on the meaning of “cart off,” but only stated her pre-discussion opinion of the meaning. She never alluded back to the topic.

It’s quite a stretch to say that “stated that Vilma has admitted to her that he participated in a bounty program” when there was never even a mention of PFP or whether it defines as a “bounty.”

By: williambrasky

williambrasky — Thu, 18 Oct 2012 00:50:25 +0000

Judge Berrigan never said such a thing. That is complete nonsense. There was an admittance to a pay for performance program, but that is nothing new. No one has denied that.

By: gtodriver

gtodriver — Thu, 18 Oct 2012 00:15:24 +0000

“One guy who did practice but who probably won’t play this weekend is linebacker Jonathan Vilma.”

It will be too funny to see him off the PUP list and still not in uniform…

Then next week his suspension appeal is turned down.

Judge Berrigan has already stated that Vilma has admitted to her that he participated in a bounty program.

Goodell has reduced Vilma’s suspension.

So I expect that the Honorable Judge Berrigan will quickly dismiss Vilma’s case and we can finally be done with his theatrics…

By: gtodriver

gtodriver — Thu, 18 Oct 2012 00:03:56 +0000

hor2012 says:

Just for the record the saints swept to bucks last year

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Um, earth to hor2012…

Last year, 2011, the Saints lost to the Bucs on January 2nd and October 16th.

The Saints did win the game on Nobember 6th.

So for the calendar year 2011 – the Saints had a losing record to the Bucs.

By: bathroomben7

bathroomben7 — Wed, 17 Oct 2012 22:18:34 +0000

I don’t know why Vilma even wants to come back, besides that he thinks he’s somehow sticking it to people by returning. But he has to know that every player in league is probably going to try to cheap shot him, punch his balls in a pile or take him out. That and the fact that he was mediocre at best in his “prime” and on a team where you could be a standout defensive player simply by not being horrible.

By: hor2012

hor2012 — Wed, 17 Oct 2012 21:59:58 +0000

Just for the record the saints swept to bucks last year

By: hehateme2

hehateme2 — Wed, 17 Oct 2012 21:53:54 +0000

There is a little something called the truth that is getting in the way there silentcount…

By: goodolebaghead

goodolebaghead — Wed, 17 Oct 2012 20:51:22 +0000

johnmaddenslovechild says:
Oct 17, 2012 3:46 PM
Not many people realize this but its not like the saints destroy the bucs twice a year, every year. I’m no cosmetologist but pretty sure the bucs beat em the last couple of times they’ve played.
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Not to be confused with Cosmology.

By: silentcount

silentcount — Wed, 17 Oct 2012 20:47:32 +0000

There’s no way Vilma did anything to deserve a year’s suspension. Therefore, he should play. Also, Sean Payton should be coaching, because he did nothing to deserve a year’s suspension, either.

By: wte1

wte1 — Wed, 17 Oct 2012 20:03:49 +0000

Thanks guys. Just confused. He’s suspended, not suspended, suspended again, still suing.

By: goodolebaghead

goodolebaghead — Wed, 17 Oct 2012 20:01:57 +0000

As a Saints fan, I would rather see Jimmy sit for a game or two and get that ankle fully healed. We can manage a game without him, and it’s not like the season matters anymore anyway. Keep the guy healthy!

By: phreakin

phreakin — Wed, 17 Oct 2012 19:56:49 +0000

He’s “technically” not suspended until the appeal is heard

By: frojo112963

frojo112963 — Wed, 17 Oct 2012 19:56:19 +0000

wte1 says: Oct 17, 2012 3:34 PM

Just wondering, could the NFL fine the Saints for letting Vilma practice when he’s technically suspended?

Just like anyone else who gets suspended, it is on hold until the appeals process is done. That is why Will Smith has been able to practice and play even though he is “suspended”. No different for Vilma.

By: vacman9100

vacman9100 — Wed, 17 Oct 2012 19:51:23 +0000

Vilma is suspended ….. however he has filed an appeal…. until his appeal is denied the suspension is put on a delay.
He has also filed a court case to block the suspension. The court will probably help Vilma until he decides to “retire”.
Then like many criminals he will “get away” without punishment.

By: johnmaddenslovechild

johnmaddenslovechild — Wed, 17 Oct 2012 19:46:54 +0000

Not many people realize this but its not like the saints destroy the bucs twice a year, every year. I’m no cosmetologist but pretty sure the bucs beat em the last couple of times they’ve played.

By: wte1

wte1 — Wed, 17 Oct 2012 19:34:24 +0000

Just wondering, could the NFL fine the Saints for letting Vilma practice when he’s technically suspended?

By: crush1128

crush1128 — Wed, 17 Oct 2012 19:27:54 +0000

would love to see vilma play and piss goodell off