With most fans clueless, even to this day, that signal taping is allowed by the NFL, Goodell capitulated to an ignorant fan base that thanks to Goodell, still believes the Patriots’ 2001, 2003 & 2004 Super Bowls are invalid because they violated a 2006 rule during the 2007 season.

Now he’s trying to do the same thing to the Saints.

Ultimately there is only one real “rule” in the NFL. If you make Roger Goodell look bad, expect to endure suspensions, fines, and lost draft picks regardless of the rules.
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Please spare us “ignorant fans” another desperate attempt by a Pasterisk fan to validate tainted Super Bowl wins. Denial is a state that hasn’t been admitted to the United States, but it’s where you are living.

Goodell’s handling of Spygate was a complete 180 from Bountygate. He did not capitulate to the fans on Spygate, he instead swept it under the rug (destroying the evidence) because the damage it could cause the league and credibility.

With Bountygate, it’s a complete over-reaction to the safety issue, which Goodell himself brought immense attention to in October of 2010 when he changed the rules in midseason about hitting. This time, he’s trying to protect against the lawsuit.

Spygate: Cheating and getting caught. Bountygate: For use in the courtroom due to former players lawsuit.

“This is a surprise? The Packers have always played by a different set of rules and standards.”

Just like Jordan. The best get treated like the best. And the also rans whine about it.

Especially because of the Thanksgiving game against the Cowboys in 1989 where it was way overly apparent that there were bounties on many Cowboys including Troy Aikman who was nailed waaaaayyyy after a whistle for a false start.

Just my opinion. Not debating. Only stating my point. “When it’s my team”.

-unashamed Saints Fan!

Also, I’ll pile on to the number of people saying it was a different game back then. I loved watching “Jacked Up” as much as anyone else, but the more we understand about the science of head injuries, the more a message needs to be sent that the league will not tolerate offering motivation and incentive for those kinds of injuries.

wasn’t it 2 weeks ago when every call went against us, you said to quit whining, now we won and you’re back to “Packers are handed everything! – wah!”

smh…

6 rings

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Only six?

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Dont The Packers have 13 or something like that???

But the players don’t want to address this evidence head on. They had the opportunity to cross examine witnesses and put on their own evidence during the appeal hearing this past summer. Instead, they walked out like and started complaining to the media.
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The only thing they are asking for is to address the evidence head on.

The thing the NFL is fighting is them cross examining witnesses.

Yup. And the Saints were warned not to do it, continued to do it, lied to NFL investigators, and are now being punished.

Apples and oranges.

How can the league “warn” the Saints about something that isn’t illegal?

The Saints were told to stop a ‘bounty’ program, which they weren’t doing, which is also why the the league has zero proof, other than the allegations of a fired/disgruntled employee!

Cerullo claims he picked Vilma’s 10k up off the table and gave it to Williams.

Williams claims he never received any money.

Pick which one if the liar but you must toss the other statement out.

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You’re lying.

Not a single Saints’ coach, player or executive has EVER admitted to a pay-for-injury scheme. Many players and coaches have denied it, some of them vehemently and in federal court. Not even Gregg Williams has admitted to a pay-for-injury scheme.

If you had truly read all the documentation as you say, you would know that.

So again, I say it: You’re lying.

Oh, man, the only thing in this life that I’m fairly sure of is that you never saw those guys play. Those guys were hard-hitting, vicious, mean, and every kind of dirty. They weren’t exactly Ty Cobb mean but they weren’t that far off. Their images have cleaned up considerably over the years. Stick to names like Olsen and Ham.

66 cart-offs in one year, and you’re trying to tell us that those are injuries caused?

Anyone with the slightest amount of legal training and courtroom experience recognizes the NFL conducted a thorough investigation and amassed significant evidence in support of its allegations. Is the evidence airtight? No. But this isn’t CSI, it’s the real world. And what the NFL has produced to date exceeds probably more than the vast majority of cases that are successfully litigated every day in this country.

All the players have done is complain about Goodell and the disciplinary process to which they agreed. Stated another way, they’re complaining about the person they signed a contract with and the contract itself.

Despite what may be “apparent” to you, I’ve read the statement issued by the Saints promising never to operate a bounty program again. I’ve read the joint statement from Loomis and Payton acknowledging the NFL’s allegations are true. I’ve read Gregg Williams written statement detailing the program he operated which rewarded players for injuring the opposition. I’ve read Judge Berrigan’s comments that she agreed that Vilma admitted in her courtroom to what Goodell has accused him of.

But the players don’t want to address this evidence head on. They had the opportunity to cross examine witnesses and put on their own evidence during the appeal hearing this past summer. Instead, they walked out like and started complaining to the media.

And now the players are trying to rely on what happened sixteen years ago to defend themselves now? That is what is pathetic.

And the act of fools.