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49ers complain that Seahawks’ cornerbacks got away with contact

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The 49ers won on Thursday night, but that doesn’t mean they were happy with the officiating.

Specifically, the 49ers want to know why the Seahawks weren’t called for pass interference, illegal contact or defensive holding — which the 49ers think they should have been. Coach Jim Harbaugh confirmed today that he has contacted the officiating department at the league office to ask about it.

We’ll take that up with the officials and get their view of it,” Harbaugh said, via CSNBayArea.com. “I think it’s just important thing to address. What is this all being defined as? Is it physical play within the rules? That’s the biggest question. Is it within the rules what’s happening? We have to ask that question. We have to know what the interpretation is.”

San Francisco quarterback Alex Smith said he thinks Seahawks cornerbacks Richard Sherman and Brandon Browner should have been called for illegal contact “several times,” and that he noticed the Seahawks getting away with it in other games this season as well.

“If this is a point of emphasis of no contact after five yards, no question,” Smith said. “They’ve done it all year. When they played Green Bay, they were doing it to all those guys, [Greg] Jennings, all those guys. You turn on the Patriots [film] and same things. That’s what they do. It’s who they are. They’re good at it. It’s what they play, big corners, physical guys. I don’t know how we didn’t get a call. It seems like it gets called once a game and then it doesn’t get called again.”

Harbaugh also complained that Seahawks defensive lineman Chris Clemons should have been flagged for grabbing Smith’s facemask as Smith was trying to pass.

“It’s not impossible to throw the ball when your helmet is turned and you’re looking out the side of the earhole, but it makes it a lot harder,” Harbaugh said.

It’s probably safe to say these comments will be brought up when these teams meet again in nine weeks.

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148 Responses to “49ers complain that Seahawks’ cornerbacks got away with contact”
  1. hutch119 says: Oct 19, 2012 8:14 PM

    If they new it was coming maybe tell the WRs to get a little more physical?

    They should be more concerned with the awful play of Alex Smith then a little bit of downfield contact.

  2. panamon says: Oct 19, 2012 8:15 PM

    WOW, the frickin’ 49ers are complaining about DEFENSIVE HOLDING? Where have I heard that before?

    Harbaugh must teach his guys hypocrisy, I mean seriously pulling this crap after a win?

  3. jhein23 says: Oct 19, 2012 8:15 PM

    What big crybabies, omg oh wow what losers – lets have 180 comments about what big whiners the 49ers are. Maybe this website can write negative stories about Alex Smith after that. – packers fan

  4. detroit20iron says: Oct 19, 2012 8:17 PM

    Captain Complano

  5. sixjak says: Oct 19, 2012 8:18 PM

    What happened?

  6. bag217 says: Oct 19, 2012 8:19 PM

    These players need to stop crying all the time. Every week its something else. Buncha babies!

  7. crazycane says: Oct 19, 2012 8:19 PM

    Harbaugh is a whinny cry baby. But he the Seahawks CB’s do get away with a lot.

  8. dapell says: Oct 19, 2012 8:19 PM

    I have always felt the penalties they don’t call have far more impact on a game than the ones they do.

    As a Lions fan I’m still amazed that not a single holding was called on the Saints in our playoff game last year. The TV would show replays of Suh being bear-hugged from behind by the Saints’ OL, Vanden Bosch being pulled down by his jersey after beating the OT around the edge. Not a single call.

    Count me in as someone who doesn’t think all is well with NFL officiating now the regular officials are back. They’re still horribly inconsistent in how and when they call things.

  9. realfann says: Oct 19, 2012 8:19 PM

    Why will these comments be brought up again?

    Unless the same crew of replacement refs work that game.

    Same questions are being asked by everyone at the game.

    Well maybe not Pete Carroll who still thinks he beat Green Bay on a good call.

  10. stillers35 says: Oct 19, 2012 8:20 PM

    Wow a Harbaugh whining like a baby, big surprise

  11. thejuddstir says: Oct 19, 2012 8:22 PM

    Certainly not a 49er’s fan but like everyone else was watching the game and while I dispise Harbaugh, I gotta agree with him on this issue. The only team that holds more than the Hawks DB’s would be the Packer’s and there isn’t anyone who holds more than Woodson. Like all the other exceptions the NFL gives to the Packers, I think they feel that due to Woodson’s age, he deserves an exception to the holding rule.

  12. disp2 says: Oct 19, 2012 8:23 PM

    The Seahawks were pushing the 49ers receivers off their routes well beyond 5 yards on just about every replay they showed. I was pretty shocked they never got called for it, because it looked like illegal contact throughout the whole game.

  13. lionsdraftguy says: Oct 19, 2012 8:24 PM

    Harbaugh is a crying little baby, now hes teaching his team to be the same. No surprise here.

    Hey Niners fans, are you finally seeing that Alex Smith is NOT a great QB like you all thought he was? I think even I can throw a better football than that clown.

  14. chetbrooks31 says: Oct 19, 2012 8:25 PM

    All you Harbaugh haters need to get a life….. seriously. On a seperate note, it did seem like there was a lot of contact after 5 yards. If I were an NFL coach, I would want to know if this was legal or not too. If it’s legal, I’d tell my players to do the same. Is that too hard for people to understand?

  15. eventhorizon04 says: Oct 19, 2012 8:27 PM

    I’m a huge fan of defense in football, so you can imagine I’m not happy about all these rules that prevent a cornerback from playing defense beyond 5 yards from the line of scrimmage.

    *That being said*, it’s not fair for some cornerbacks to be allowed to play physically, and some not.
    My preference would be that the rules would be changed to allow that style of play, BUT if the league isn’t going to change the rules, then they should enforce the rules equally.

    And the rules clearly state that what the Seahawks were doing beyond 5 yards counts as illegal contact.

    It’s unfair for the DBs of the 31 other teams to get penalized when they do it, but for the referees to allow the Seahawks to do it.

  16. astrosfan75956 says: Oct 19, 2012 8:30 PM

    Completely agree. It seems as if the Seahawks are in good favor with the refs all season. Minus last nights chop block for a safety Sea was getting away with murder ESP in the secondary.

  17. mykelane says: Oct 19, 2012 8:32 PM

    Am I the only one noticing alot more COMPLAINING this season than in years past? and yes, I’m complaining about it.

  18. Mr. Wright 212 says: Oct 19, 2012 8:34 PM

    Are these guys serious?

    What about Justin Smith holding tackles? What about Staley, Davis and Boone getting away with MASSIVE holding all season and rarely getting called for it? And they’re COMPLAINING???

  19. ketch20too says: Oct 19, 2012 8:34 PM

    And Moss has made a career out of uncalled offensive pi. NFL even used one of his classic two handed push offs to advertise MNF. Did it last night too. BUT…Seattle DB’s do cross the line ALOT!

  20. thegaterecords says: Oct 19, 2012 8:45 PM

    Seahawks were doing it on purpose, they were trying to get the 49ers to commit penalties for late hits, Seahawks dirty play still didn’t get them the win regardless. Winners win, Losers lose.

  21. goldrush36 says: Oct 19, 2012 8:48 PM

    I think it should’ve just been left unsaid because it’s over and done with. Really it would take a blind person to not notice all the crap Seattle got away with I’m sure the league noticed on it’s own. Afterall Browner was the most penalized corner in the league last year. It was quite baffling that Seattle only got 2 penalties assessed all game. I seen 5 or 6 not get called in the 3rd qtr alone.

  22. ninerdynasty says: Oct 19, 2012 8:49 PM

    I like how everyone is just saying how harbaugh is a crybaby.. is just the truth, the niners play this really good team again and they need to know whats up.. look what happened to the packers.. they were unlucky they were against replacements refs too.. the hawks dbs held all the GB receivers and somehow they called PI on GB.. SMH.. i dont want to lose a game like that…

  23. kev86 says: Oct 19, 2012 8:49 PM

    What does Gilbride think? Niners and their fans want it both ways. Go figure.

  24. paperlions says: Oct 19, 2012 8:50 PM

    This can’t be. I thought all of the officiating problems immediately went away after week 3. Are people starting to realize the only real differences between the replacements and the current refs are 1) experience with NFL rules, and 2) the willingness of players/coaches to browbeat the replacements more than the regular refs. The replacements were every bit as good (or bad) as the normal replacements at calling games.

  25. philsimmsisadouche says: Oct 19, 2012 8:52 PM

    Why is it that the Harbaughs complain anytime their guys aren’t allowed to run unchallenged down the field and into the endzone. They’re like the overzealous soccer dads that complain about everything any kid does to get in their kid’s way. Next they’ll be whining about their guys being blocked and not allowed to run unimpeded to tackle the ball carrier. If I were one if their players, I would be embarrassed.

  26. eyeh8goodell says: Oct 19, 2012 8:52 PM

    My how the game has changed…….for the worse. Up through the late 90′s WR’s had to battle with DB’s for the ball and had a much tougher time getting open. Today’s receivers couldn’t have played in the NFL 15 years ago. The QB’s were better too because that’s what their targets were dealing with. Meanwhile, they stood in the pocket under real duress as they couldn’t rely on flags coming in from all directions if a defensive player so much as laid a finger on them. They stood tall in the pocket and either got it done, or took their licks like men/football players.

    Harbaugh will always be that kid getting his butt chewed on the sidelines by Ditka.

  27. goldrush36 says: Oct 19, 2012 8:52 PM

    lionsdraftguy says: Oct 19, 2012 8:24 PM

    Harbaugh is a crying little baby, now hes teaching his team to be the same. No surprise here.

    Hey Niners fans, are you finally seeing that Alex Smith is NOT a great QB like you all thought he was? I think even I can throw a better football than that clown
    __________________________________________
    Must be why you are sitting in your comfy little chair making millions while waiting for 49ers articles

  28. sweetnlow44 says: Oct 19, 2012 8:52 PM

    My goodness, can you get any more shady, Harbaugh? You better hope the NFL doesn’t review both sides of the ball because you’re guys get away with just as much. And they might catch some offensive pass interferences on Moss and Crabtree that weren’t called too.

    Harbaugh’s a shady snake. All he’s trying to do is bully and manipulate the ref’s. It’s a form of cheating that he’s mastered and he did it even worse with the replacements. And he’ll keep taking advantage of their cowardice until the league or ref’s stand up to him and tell him to cut that BS out.

  29. tigershark49 says: Oct 19, 2012 8:57 PM

    Good defense and bad offense were played in this game by both teams. Braylon Edwards sux!

  30. thedownwardspiral says: Oct 19, 2012 8:58 PM

    40 whiners.

    EVERY time.

  31. tommychappy0722 says: Oct 19, 2012 9:00 PM

    Waaaaahhhhhh…… Waaaaaahhhhhhh…….

  32. dirtysouthironmen says: Oct 19, 2012 9:01 PM

    Harbaugh is quickly becoming a bigger D-Bag than Rex Ryan.

  33. rcali says: Oct 19, 2012 9:02 PM

    Darn refs always favoring the home team…..wait a minute…..

  34. randallflagg52 says: Oct 19, 2012 9:03 PM

    Thanks Bill Polian for ruining football by pushing for all these rules that favor offenses. This is why no one cared about Brees breaking Johnny Unitas’ record. This new arena league era is such a joke. Next thing you know they’ll let WRs line up 10 yards deep and get a running start prior to the snap, just like in other leagues.

  35. ripster65 says: Oct 19, 2012 9:04 PM

    as I posted just yesterday….don’t any other coaches ever comment on anything…at all…ever?

    I find it hard to believe that Harbaugh is the only coach to gripe about officiating after a game. Maybe the media could focus on someone else for a week or two…? Doubt it though.

    side note -I guarantee there’ll be another R. Ryan story sometime between now and the game Sunday.

  36. tincansailor981 says: Oct 19, 2012 9:05 PM

    Quit whining.

  37. randallflagg52 says: Oct 19, 2012 9:06 PM

    goldrush36 says:Oct 19, 2012 8:48 PM

    I think it should’ve just been left unsaid because it’s over and done with. Really it would take a blind person to not notice all the crap Seattle got away with I’m sure the league noticed on it’s own. Afterall Browner was the most penalized corner in the league last year. It was quite baffling that Seattle only got 2 penalties assessed all game. I seen 5 or 6 not get called in the 3rd qtr alone.

    ==================================

    Stanford Routt was the most penalized corner last year. But don’t let facts get in the way of making a point…

  38. Mr. Wright 212 says: Oct 19, 2012 9:09 PM

    kev86 says: Oct 19, 2012 8:49 PM

    What does Gilbride think? Niners and their fans want it both ways. Go figure.
    ————

    DON’T THEY?!?!?!

  39. pantherpro says: Oct 19, 2012 9:09 PM

    Hey Downward spirial,

    That is so unoriginal. You must be trash Raider fan. Oh that not’s original either. It is so nice that the Niners are back on top where the haters come out. Kind of like Dallas but our owner doesnt have a fake mug or a dead owner like the Silver and Blackouts. Ouch!

  40. packownsu says: Oct 19, 2012 9:17 PM

    Only a dumbass fan doesn’t know that ALL players will try to get away with whatever they can to give them a edge. Holding, pushing, grabbing and whatever. If they don’t get a flag then they will keep it up. It’s necessary at the beginning of the games to see exactly what the refs will let you get away with. No flag then keep doing it. It gives me great pleasure to see the Packer DBs mugging the WRs. Even if they get a lot of flags it’s nice to know the fans of that other team are whining like little girls.

  41. richiesaurus310 says: Oct 19, 2012 9:17 PM

    Theyre actually was a ton of contact and holding done by the seahawks corners last night on a lot of plays. This is a legit complaint. Smith also did get facemasked on 2nd and 10 in the 4th quarter I believe, and it was really a horrible no call. Like 9/10 on the facemask scale. I dont know how the refs missed it as smith was in the pocket trying to throw the ball as it happend.

  42. necr0philia says: Oct 19, 2012 9:19 PM

    Did the replacement refs sneak in to help the Seahawks again??!! This just in “it was actually not a catch””!!!

  43. rev279 says: Oct 19, 2012 9:23 PM

    “It seems as if the Seahawks are in good favor with the refs all season.”
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    Can someone explain to me how the most penalized team in the league is in good favor with the refs?

  44. rhone16 says: Oct 19, 2012 9:25 PM

    Harbaugh stated that he’s asking the league office for clarification. Why does this get spun as “complaining”? Does PFT have some kind of rule that all posts need to portray their subjects negatively?

  45. simplesimon1 says: Oct 19, 2012 9:26 PM

    For real Harbaugh?!!!

    Week 2, you all complained about the Lions. Then, you muttered nonsense about the Vikings. Now it’s the Seahawks?

    At any point do you ever take credit for the fact that maybe other teams aren’t dirty…. perhaps it’s the 49ers other teams are reacting to. Only logical conclusion I can find.

    I don’t think I’ve ever heard this much crying through week 7 of a season when a team has a 5-2 record and is first in the division.

    Let me guess….. last week the Giants also got handed a win, right? LOL

  46. abel660 says: Oct 19, 2012 9:27 PM

    everybody says harbaugh complains a lot and i agree but this time i could understand why those Seahawks defenders are getting away with a lot of illegal contact

  47. themackstrong says: Oct 19, 2012 9:30 PM

    Wow Harbaugh crying and calling for a ref that he was going to throw a flag for 5 mins wasn’t enough we have to listen to this? I’m a Seahawk fan and I could see that Sherman and Browner both got away with some defensive holding calls but Crabtree and Moss pushed off on numerous occasions. If anybody knows anything about sports you know that referee’s can call games a certain way and they let both sides play physically. You don’t think that was PI on the pass where Wilson threw the pick? Watch the 49er CD stop dead in his tracks, WR getting to finish his deep route and can’t even make a play on the ball. That happened twice on deep balls we threw..Stop crying your team won.

  48. richc111 says: Oct 19, 2012 9:37 PM

    Both Harbaugh’s whine all game. You get sick of seeing like someone shot their dog every game. You know who i blame in this THE REF”S.. we need to get the regular ref’s back as soon as possible these replacement ref’s are ruining the game!

  49. edge661 says: Oct 19, 2012 9:37 PM

    U guys r just hating the 49ers. Just give us r props and shut up!!

  50. humb0lt says: Oct 19, 2012 9:37 PM

    This is why call them the Fortywhiners.

  51. fredbavre says: Oct 19, 2012 9:38 PM

    People need to realize why pass interference exists. If it didn’t, we wouldn’t have passing in football, people would simply throw their opponent to the ground repeatedly on the snap. Jim Harbaugh is doing his job, & I agree with him, & I did when I was watching the game. I’d like to see if P.I. is being called less compared to the same weeks of 2011 that the permanent Ref’s have been back for (last 2? 3?).

  52. west4420 says: Oct 19, 2012 9:38 PM

    crying ass beeyotch dbag.

  53. baloneyjohn says: Oct 19, 2012 9:39 PM

    What a crying, whining little twit. Stop it and coach. You were hired to coach, not to whine and make excuses, loser

  54. imcmillan says: Oct 19, 2012 9:42 PM

    Harbaugh is a disgrace to Michigan football. Bo would be shaking his head at such whiny bs from his players. You won the game idiot, learn to win with class Harbaugh!

  55. kuya206 says: Oct 19, 2012 9:43 PM

    First Boone & now Harbaugh? C’mon, you guys won! No need to live up to your nickname (forty-whiners)…

  56. bullethead527 says: Oct 19, 2012 9:43 PM

    Not a fan of both, but I was thinking the same thing when I was watching the game….

  57. baymac408 says: Oct 19, 2012 9:45 PM

    Before you people talk out of your butts!! Go watch the game!!! Idiots don’t know football if you don’t think there where no calls in that game!! Still won good game! GO NINERS

  58. hatesycophants says: Oct 19, 2012 9:47 PM

    If it doesn’t get called, it didn’t happen. Tampons in aisle 8.

  59. illadelphiasphinest says: Oct 19, 2012 9:52 PM

    How dare there be contact in a football game! LOL!!!!
    Like seriously they mine as well take the pads off and put flags on. Bunch of millionare crybabies!!!!!!!!!!!

  60. melsh13 says: Oct 19, 2012 9:52 PM

    If I were to go out for a beer with Jim Harbaugh, I’m pretty sure he’d start complaining about his beer not arriving after about 15 seconds.

  61. beastmode5150 says: Oct 19, 2012 9:53 PM

    Harbaugh (which auto corrects to garbage) is a whining hypocritical Weenie. You don’t hear about other coaches doing this because they aren’t COMPLETE BABIES.

  62. theysone says: Oct 19, 2012 10:02 PM

    sweetnlow44 says: Oct 19, 2012 8:52 PM

    My goodness, can you get any more shady, Harbaugh? You better hope the NFL doesn’t review both sides of the ball because you’re guys get away with just as much. And they might catch some offensive pass interferences on Moss and Crabtree that weren’t called too.

    Harbaugh’s a shady snake. All he’s trying to do is bully and manipulate the ref’s. It’s a form of cheating that he’s mastered and he did it even worse with the replacements. And he’ll keep taking advantage of their cowardice until the league or ref’s stand up to him and tell him to cut that BS out.
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    You’re an idiot. If he were trying to manipulate the refs (as Gilbride did last week), he would’ve made the comments BEFORE the game. What good does it do after the game? None.

    The DBs got away with A LOT last night. There was a blatant facemask on Alex Smith that wasn’t called. The chop block penalty (that was declined and irrelevant) was pretty ticky-tacky.

    Poorly officiated game.

  63. imjinbrdgr says: Oct 19, 2012 10:10 PM

    Sam Shields agrees with him.

  64. bmore44 says: Oct 19, 2012 10:11 PM

    The CB were holding (BAD) . If it was Ravens , the turf of would been yellow.

  65. hackphx says: Oct 19, 2012 10:15 PM

    49 ers won with big smashmouth, so noticing the substandard officiating is hardly whining. The Lynch fumble replay clearly shows the ball popout and an official pointing to the ground…down by contact. Then they reject a challenge based on forward progress. If you know the rules you’ll know this is huge. Maybe Harbaugh’s constant carping rubs the refs. Maybe Seattle is getting a different deal. Ask the Packers.

  66. citynative says: Oct 19, 2012 10:25 PM

    How come it seems Mr. Wright212 (Giants fan) and LionsDraftGuy (Lions fan) comment on every Niners article? Must be infatuation. Its funny they would be discussing complaining about refs. The Giants fans and organization complained about a PI call on the last play of the Niners playoff comeback game in the early 2000′s. We had to hear all year from Detroit fans about when the refs mis-spotted the ball in the Lions/Niners game last year.

    I guess it is ok when your team or fan base does it. Face it, every team and fan base has a problem with the refs at some time.

  67. harrisbarton says: Oct 19, 2012 10:30 PM

    While we’re on the subject, there was a late helmet-to-helmet hit on Kaepernick on the one play that he was in. Clearly shown in the replay.

  68. whodeytn says: Oct 19, 2012 10:30 PM

    Harbaugh is a whinny cry baby. But he the Seahawks CB’s do get away with a lot.
    =====

    Whinny or whiney?

  69. 4d9erdynasty says: Oct 19, 2012 10:31 PM

    There was some no calls but stop complaining about it, you guys won move on and get ready for arizona. I would be more concerned about how alex smith has played the last couple games then the no calls in a game that was won.

  70. strikeback52 says: Oct 19, 2012 10:35 PM

    Crybabies crying about Harbaugh being a crybaby you mad bro either lost money on the game because he took points off the board or your seachicken fans. The officiating was horrible last night. They had late hits out of bounds on both sides no calls, but they call a non contact personal foul for a little smack talk. Pass interference flags for tipped ball passes. Glad the replacements still can get in a game or two

  71. Mr. Wright 212 says: Oct 19, 2012 10:47 PM

    ripster65 says: Oct 19, 2012 9:04 PM

    as I posted just yesterday….don’t any other coaches ever comment on anything…at all…ever?

    I find it hard to believe that Harbaugh is the only coach to gripe about officiating after a game. Maybe the media could focus on someone else for a week or two…? Doubt it though.

    side note -I guarantee there’ll be another R. Ryan story sometime between now and the game Sunday.
    ————-

    I don’t hear Coughlin (largest media market in the league) or 2/3 of coaches doing it. Harbaugh by far leads everyone. His brother is second.

  72. sillybell says: Oct 19, 2012 10:53 PM

    Watched this game. Not a fan of either team but I did notice the refs were allowing a lot of contact which brought me back to the replacement refs who also allowed a lot of contact downfield and were berated for it. Personally, I prefer letting them play but it has to be one way or the other.

    Watching the dolphins/rams last week, I saw at least 5 illegal hands to the face calls. How many times have any of you seen more than 2 in a game? One word describes the “regular” refs…INCONSISTENT!!!

  73. edge661 says: Oct 19, 2012 10:57 PM

    r just hating the 49ers. Just give us r props and shut up!!

  74. crazysamoan says: Oct 19, 2012 11:03 PM

    This is the same team that got away with offensive pass interference vs the packers. Smith just speaking the truth.

  75. bobhk says: Oct 19, 2012 11:12 PM

    All those guys trashing harbaugh for complaining are just stupid. If you watched the game you know seabags corners were mugging the WR well beyond 5 yard line …. Repeatedly.

  76. goldrush36 says: Oct 19, 2012 11:12 PM

    19>17 but go ahead and keep telling yourself Routt was the most penalized. Whatever helps you sleep at night to think your precious corner doesn’t play dirty

  77. leroysbutler says: Oct 19, 2012 11:18 PM

    No doubt that the Seahags DBs were mugging SF’s receivers. They did it against the Pack and Pats as well.

    But. is it just me or is Jim Harbaugh a total douche. He may be a good coach but it’s time for the refs to throw a few unsportsman-like penalties against this jagbag for intimidation and going onto the field. Maybe that will shut him up.

    BTW, Woodson is making a living mugging WRs.

  78. volez2igles2volez says: Oct 19, 2012 11:19 PM

    Why are the 49ers complaining?? They won! I’m an eagles fan. Nuff said…

  79. sonoco says: Oct 19, 2012 11:23 PM

    Hey Lion fans get over yourself and your hatred for Harbaugh . . . . and when you start getting defensive holding calls next week when your hosting Seattle you can thank Harbaugh.

  80. aholland00 says: Oct 19, 2012 11:25 PM

    I personally don’t like the 49ers, but I was amazed how the refs allowed the grabbing all game long. Even more amazing was the announcers admiring how physical the seahawk DBs played. Didn’t they notice, as the rest of us did, that they weren’t getting the penalties called ? Because it’s the NFLs network, they’re not supposed to be honest ? I thought these sort of bad officiated games ended when the replacement refs gone….I thought wrong. BTW NFL….I turned off the game at halftime because of the officiating.

  81. truetrue85 says: Oct 19, 2012 11:27 PM

    Oh boo hoo you guys won, get over it! Your offense has played like crap the past 2 weeks because you finally played good defenses. The Giants and Seahawks didn’t get away with cheating, you’re just overrated and have been outplayed.

  82. luke8512 says: Oct 19, 2012 11:29 PM

    All the teams that are known for their tough and physical defenses always get away with calls like that. I just chalked it up to the refs just seeing it as a style of the defense. Some people see a penalty and some see it as Steeler football for example.

  83. aholland00 says: Oct 19, 2012 11:34 PM

    and another thing….for all those using the comment section just to rip the 49ers and Harbaugh…don’t you like watching good officiated games ? I don’t like the 49ers or Harbaugh, but what were they supposed to say about the officiating in that game ? All the new rules are what they are….so call them the same in every game

  84. packownsu says: Oct 19, 2012 11:38 PM

    Harbaugh first played QB during the 1970s. He played for the junior league Ann Arbor Packers and after every game he would complain about the DBs mugging his WRs. 40 years of whining about it makes a TRADITION.

  85. joe2jerry says: Oct 19, 2012 11:43 PM

    I thought those green and blue backpacks looked cool on the Niner WRs

  86. tiredofyoureferringtoateamaswe says: Oct 19, 2012 11:48 PM

    I’m not a fan of either team, but I did see on a few pass plays 49er receivers getting bounced around like ping pong balls 10-15 yards downfield. Quarterback still had the ball, so I do believe that should be a penalty. Not to back up the whining, but I think at some level it is warranted.

  87. golfnutt67 says: Oct 19, 2012 11:55 PM

    All these fools complaining about Harbaugh complaining obviously are seahawk fans, or else they didn’t watch this game…….get real and check your bias at the door before spreading your hate here.

  88. shadow1018 says: Oct 20, 2012 12:02 AM

    I can’t imagine Harbaugh’s team doing anything they shouldn’t and getting away with it. It’s fun pulling against the Forty-Winers!!!!

  89. contrasuxbalz says: Oct 20, 2012 12:27 AM

    rev279 says: Oct 19, 2012 9:23 PM

    “It seems as if the Seahawks are in good favor with the refs all season.”
    ——————————-

    Can someone explain to me how the most penalized team in the league is in good favor with the refs?
    __________________
    Easy…..multiply their penalty yardage by three and subtract one win and that is what they should have.

  90. sweetnlow44 says: Oct 20, 2012 12:28 AM

    @theysone…

    Hahahahha, I’m the idiot? Too funny. I shouldn’t have to explain this to you, but you’re obviously a little slow…

    You do realize that these teams will play each other again this year, right? And how it works in divisional games is that with the 2 games you play against a divisional opponent, you play one game at home and one away. And since the game played last night was in San Francisco, the next game will be played in Seattle. The 49ers will need every advantage they can get in that game since Seattle is a very tough place to play.

    You realize also that the team with the best record in each division earns a playoff spot, right? And that’s good, teams usually like making it to the playoffs. This means the 49ers want the Seahawks to lose as much as possible. So, whether Seattle’s db’s get penalized in their game or others, it will help the 49ers to make sure the Seahawks have every disadvantage possible.

    I know I went over that pretty quick, but slow down and sound it out a few times and eventually it might sink in.

  91. smcgaels1997 says: Oct 20, 2012 12:29 AM

    All the haters can hate..fact is there were numerous calls not made and it wasn’t because Seattle was THAT good they let them get away with it.. And that non call on Cleamons was a joke, whole helmet turned sideways and not one ref saw it? Where’s the ref who’s job is to watch the QB throw a ball into the ground because he couldn’t see…haters please. Go ahead Carroll bring up the comments… Defend your corners who are playing outside the rules

  92. smcgaels1997 says: Oct 20, 2012 12:30 AM

    If they new it was coming maybe tell the WRs to get a little more physical?

    They should be more concerned with the awful play of Alex Smith then a little bit of downfield contact.

    a little bit of contact? Your a moron

  93. bluehawk22 says: Oct 20, 2012 12:47 AM

    Wow, its football! Theres gonna be contact, like there was on both sides of the ball all night. Gore ran all over us, because he had too! Mostly because friscos wr couldnt hang with real football players. Stop whining, start winning….. consistantly

  94. txnative61 says: Oct 20, 2012 12:49 AM

    I also saw a few instances of downfield contact by Niner defenders, like pushing Golden Tate out of bounds, that could have been called. Many fans, and coaches prefer physical games not be altered by excessive penalty’s and letting the players on each team get away with the same things. What Harbaugh is saying I guess is they were better at it, even though we won the game. Noticed the hand to QB’s face, that was missed call worthy of complaint. Good, defensive game to watch. Might be different with 12th man in Seattle. NFC West–best defenses in the league, who’d a thunk it?

  95. msclemons67 says: Oct 20, 2012 1:15 AM

    As we’ve seen several times this year, the Seahawk’s 12th man is a zebra.

    Luckily these replacement refs will be gone soon. Wait, what?

  96. bluereign says: Oct 20, 2012 1:25 AM

    Patrick Willis it the only 49er that can play fairly and be dominant. The rest are mediocre at best.

  97. scoobaj says: Oct 20, 2012 1:29 AM

    The hawks d has established themselves as physical in your face coverage, since they are consistently aggressive they don’t get called, its called an identity, if your team lacks it then you will always complain. Go hawks!

  98. Ram says: Oct 20, 2012 1:30 AM

    As a life long Rams’ fan I have always hated the Niners. But this current team I have little respect for under Whiningbaugh. The guy ALWAYS seems to be complaining about something. At least the Niners of the 80′s and 90′s did most of their talking on the field. This current bunch acts like a bunch of entitled babies.

  99. CKL says: Oct 20, 2012 1:41 AM

    I don’t mind coaches and players heatedly arguing calls sometimes, but honest to goodness…Harbaugh argues EVERYTHING. He shrieks constantly all game every game. He’s a great coach, but man, pick your spots dude, or the refs are all going to tune you out pretty soon…”boy who cried wolf” syndrome.

  100. hockeyflow33 says: Oct 20, 2012 2:18 AM

    Sherman was all over Pats receivers last week and the refs never seemed to care either

  101. phloorioisanarcissist says: Oct 20, 2012 2:25 AM

    I don’t care what anyone says, I would have paid good money to watch Harbaugh and Jim Schwartz go at it last year.

    Call Harbaugh a baby if you want, but my money would have been on Harbaugh.

    I like both teams, but I have to say the Seahawks have gotten away with A LOT this year. Makes you wonder if officials are taking kickbacks from owners and/or coaches, or perhaps they’re getting kickbacks from Vegas, trying to keep an accurate spread. It seems to vary year to year and sometimes game to game. Some years, some teams get away with murder, while others get flagged for nothing.

  102. yumacactus says: Oct 20, 2012 2:28 AM

    Similar to both the Packers and Saints SB seasons. The DB’s have a “reputation” for being “bump and run” corners so seem to get away with alot. The buzzards DB’s have been getting alot of leeway all season, no doubt.

  103. Dusty Grey says: Oct 20, 2012 2:31 AM

    It seems to me that “physical” teams have a tendency get a pass on penalties while “finesse,” “soft” and “technical” teams get about every call.

    There were missed calls on both sides. The 49ers had some bad holds on pass pro, two block in the back during kick returns and played half of the game in the neutral zone. Browner and Sherman mugged WR’s all night and their RT was hold all night.

    Frankly I’d rather let them box then have ticky tacky calls.

    That being said, Petulant Jim needs to quit this ridiculous posturing. When he declined the safety, I half expected him to turn around and kick a field goal, because that’s the kind of man he is.

    The only thing I hate more than PJ, is 49ers fans. They never bring anything close to an educated argument, and their dribble inevitably comes down to “oh yeah.? How many Superbowls do the -inset team- have? That’s what I thought…” even though most of them can’t ever remember the last time they were relevant. At least Patriots fans have had a decade of good football to brag about…

  104. 4d9erdynasty says: Oct 20, 2012 2:31 AM

    just watched the game on tv. Wow, those seattle DBs were grabbin jersey the whole game. I can see why niners were pissed. but still niners won move on.

  105. raiderlyfe510 says: Oct 20, 2012 2:48 AM

    Ive been telling you all for months that the real refs were dumber than a bag of bricks and blinder than bats.

    Those old fools should have stayed locked out.

  106. savannahrose44 says: Oct 20, 2012 3:41 AM

    After defending his team against complaints from the Giants…

    Is Jim Harbaugh now a douche bag and a hypocrite?
    “We have to ask that question. We have to know what the interpretation is.”

  107. gingerkidboston2012 says: Oct 20, 2012 4:25 AM

    The 4* & 2 Seahawks. I’d suggest someone should investigate Carroll about this but he’d probably just deny any knowledge of it. He’s really good at that.

  108. bluefan204 says: Oct 20, 2012 6:29 AM

    Justin Smith didn’t see them holding…or did he?

  109. justsomedude2604 says: Oct 20, 2012 6:39 AM

    this from a guy that took advantage of the replacement refs when they played the vikings, breaking the rules and stealing two extra timeouts because he knew he could.

    harbaugh the hypocrite.

    and they won too…what a baby.

  110. sacaypaga says: Oct 20, 2012 7:26 AM

    Hardbaugh, you mad bro.

  111. sacaypaga says: Oct 20, 2012 7:28 AM

    Hardball is not a whinner. He’s a winner.

  112. essentialsausage says: Oct 20, 2012 8:50 AM

    These replacement refs are terrible!

  113. whatjusthapped says: Oct 20, 2012 8:58 AM

    I can’t imagine that a Pete Carroll-coached team would bend the rules and cheat.

    He is such a fine example of playing by the rules, high morals, and impeccable ethics. Don’t believe me? Just ask his former employer, USC.

  114. pftstory says: Oct 20, 2012 9:22 AM

    So does SF want the replacement refs back?

  115. jprcox says: Oct 20, 2012 9:39 AM

    WOW, a new low to complain after a win. I mean that really says something about a person. I can see after a loss, but a win is just like saying “we are mad we won by 7 only”.

    Hardball is a real whackjob – but he is a football genius. He proves you can be both I guess.

  116. offthelows says: Oct 20, 2012 9:46 AM

    There could be some swallowing the whistles on physical corner play because that was one of the complaints about the replacements, they were calling that stuff too much.

    In this game, I suspect it was more about the matchup and knowing both were physical defenses and to keep the pace of the game they’d let a lot of it go.

    If it’s a trend, it may temporarily benefit those taking the risk to set the trend until the other DBs neutralize it by adopting the same strategy. If people are complaining about lack of defense, allowing extra contact is the easiest way to bring things back into balance while not compromising player safety

  117. csilojohnson says: Oct 20, 2012 9:52 AM

    No one knows the rules anymore. Thats what happens when you change them mid season

  118. drillbit19k says: Oct 20, 2012 10:24 AM

    @thejuddstir look up who leads the league over the past few years in defensive holding and PI calls and the reevaluate the absurdity of your post. Ill save you the trouble, it’s Woodson.

  119. flyeredup says: Oct 20, 2012 10:33 AM

    Jim Harbaugh = biggest crybaby NFL has ever seen.

    John Harbaugh = 2nd biggest crybaby NFL has ever seen.

  120. pats777 says: Oct 20, 2012 11:01 AM

    ‘Hawks DB’s (and O-Line) did the same thing to the Pats last week. Only difference is, not a single Patriots player or coach whined or made it an excuse.

  121. scalfor3 says: Oct 20, 2012 11:08 AM

    He’s right. The NFL Network broadcast kept going to replays of Sherman and Browner mugging receivers 15 yards down the field. Then Mayock would say “That’s what Seattle’s cornerbacks do, the Niners receivers have to win those matchups” and masturbate to some Mel Blount highlights.

    I’d rather have the league allow aggressive corner play, but the rules are the rules. Right now, Seattle’s strategy seems to basically be mug ‘em every play because the refs won’t call it every time.

  122. thermalito says: Oct 20, 2012 11:13 AM

    The 49ers should worry more about the play of their awful QB than the Seahawks corners.

  123. goldrush36 says: Oct 20, 2012 11:34 AM

    @randallflags. Routt was penalized 17 times and Browner was penalized 19 times. I would like to hear which math calculation makes 17>19

  124. giselleisasucubus says: Oct 20, 2012 11:44 AM

    So Harbaugh is exactly right and people are going to rip him for it? The Seattle d’backs are defending like they are still in college and not getting called for it. They were mauling GB, NE & SF. Why can they do it and other teams can’t? These rules changed YEARS ago, so now the league is going to lax on these rules all of a sudden? Makes no sense. I’ll put money on SEA secondary getting hit w/at least 5 PI’s/Illegal Contact next week.

  125. goldrush36 says: Oct 20, 2012 11:51 AM

    Also funny everyone says he’s whining. Reporter asks “Seattle’s defensive backs seemed to be very physical and touchy well down the field. What are your thoughts on that?”. He simply answered

  126. joetoronto says: Oct 20, 2012 12:00 PM

    flyeredup says: Oct 20, 2012 10:33 AM

    Jim Harbaugh = biggest crybaby NFL has ever seen.

    John Harbaugh = 2nd biggest crybaby NFL has ever seen.
    *************************************************
    No way, 1 and 1A are Pete Carroll and Jim Harbaugh.

  127. goldrush36 says: Oct 20, 2012 12:09 PM

    A team that finished 7-9 2 years in a row and has an all time losing record and technically should be 3-4 now talks about winning consistantly? Oh boy now that is rich

  128. frankyvito says: Oct 20, 2012 12:28 PM

    Look I get all the ‘receivers should adjust’ blah blah blah. But this is such a constant theme in EVERY Seahawks game. How is EVERYONE else a whiner but the Seahawks are right? If it didn’t affect the game why is there a rule? At some point, shouldn’t the refs make Seattle adjust?!? No one told them to play cornerback. If they can’t handle the rules, be a safety.

  129. fupduk2 says: Oct 20, 2012 12:47 PM

    The Seahawks have two wins because OFFENSIVE pass interference was not called. One against the Packers that got Vegas involved in the talks and the other against the Patriots. For some reason the refs/nfl want them to win. If not for that they would not be relevant.

  130. rufusporter says: Oct 20, 2012 12:55 PM

    Wow. A lot of people here feel victimized by Seattle cornerbacks Richard Sherman and Brandon Browner. Lots of whining. Some sniffling I suspect. There are lots of missed calls in every game. Get over it.

    Jim Harbaugh throws a little fit over the Giants coaches comments and then turns around and does the exact same thing. Pathetic. Be happy you got your win.

  131. schoman57 says: Oct 20, 2012 1:11 PM

    Is there anything this guy won’t cry about. Sorry , but you can’t be considered a great coach if you whine as much as he does!

  132. shadow1018 says: Oct 20, 2012 1:19 PM

    The 40-Whiners are at it again. Are you surprised? I’m not!!

  133. jusjamn says: Oct 20, 2012 5:11 PM

    Harbaugh should go left out of the stadium and go two blocks down to the pharmacy. They got this stuff called Vagisil that would fix all his problems.

  134. dans761 says: Oct 20, 2012 5:14 PM

    fupduk2 says: The Seahawks have two wins because OFFENSIVE pass interference was not called. One against the Packers that got Vegas involved in the talks and the other against the Patriots. For some reason the refs/nfl want them to win. If not for that they would not be relevant.
    ==========================
    You mean the NFL wants the most penalized team in the NFL to win because of “bad calls”? Interesting theory. Its funny the amount of excuses you hear when players own another. If you think the Seahawks defense and running offense isn’t “relevant” then you are a complete moron!

  135. dans761 says: Oct 20, 2012 5:25 PM

    giselleisasucubus says: Oct 20, 2012 11:44 AM

    So Harbaugh is exactly right and people are going to rip him for it? The Seattle d’backs are defending like they are still in college and not getting called for it. They were mauling GB, NE & SF. Why can they do it and other teams can’t? These rules changed YEARS ago, so now the league is going to lax on these rules all of a sudden? Makes no sense. I’ll put money on SEA secondary getting hit w/at least 5 PI’s/Illegal Contact next week.
    ====================
    Wow!! Harbaugh is a hypocrite! They are defending like college? LOL LOL!! The “defending” is called football! If you wanna see football played in a skirt I suggest watching the Lingerie football league. What makes no sense is your moronic reasoning like theres some sort of conspiracy. All players play by the same rules. Its not the Seahawks fault that your team can’t match up with them. Its not the Seahawks fault you don’t have an elite secondary like them. There are bad calls on both sides of the ball. You don’t see Seahawks fans whining about all the non calls on the SF OL for holding. You also don’t see them whining about 2 blatent PI non calls on Sidney Rice that was never called against SF. Its simple. You can do whatever you want within 5 yards. If not you will get flagged. If the Seahawks secondary was doing this all night, why didnt they get flagged for just 1? Or 2? If there is a pattern of illegal playing then they’d get called out. But not 1, but its a conspiracy? I love when my Seahawks OWN teams/players and people whine because they havent seen such an elite, physical secondary ever! Alex Smith is AWFUL! SF’s WR’s are terrible! Bad QB + Bad WR’s + Elite seconday = Secondary wins.

  136. dans761 says: Oct 20, 2012 5:27 PM

    Hey guys its a conspiracy. The most penalized team in the NFL has the refs in their back pockets!.. Gotta love some peoples logic!

  137. pop562 says: Oct 21, 2012 6:40 AM

    The 49ers are going to win the division, Seahawks will not because they’re 0-3 in the division. Cardinals O-line is horrible with no run game, niners will beat cards again on Monday night football…after the bye, niners get the rams and play at home, another 49ers win. Niners will be 7-2 and 3-0 in the division before playing the bears. Sorry Seahawks, butter luck next season.

  138. jeffesky says: Oct 21, 2012 10:59 AM

    As a hawks fan its a red flag pete doesn’t know how to adjust to the trap play. That was embarassing , I could have coached better in that second half. When you have massive corners that mug recievers and not get called for PI’s you let em go one on one,load the box and run blitz the gaps with JJ and cam. let Alex beat you throwing down field. Check downs should be pounded off the line by KL and LH as the bend over or through the inside of the tackles. Its why this is not a rivalry, it only can be a rivalry if teams alternate wins. 0 and 4 for the jawks last 4 games is not a rivalry Pete, its one team dominating and thats the niners. They know thier gona win because even if you have talent we all know your going to get out coached. Just ask RB,RW and LH, they all said it after the game. 0-3 in the division your third year ,nice job buddy. it sucks cause the hawks are the only time we have. Sonics gone,M’s are a farm team for the Yanks, no NHL team. Sucks to be a sports fan here.

  139. droop says: Oct 21, 2012 2:05 PM

    turn the complaints off
    come playoffs

  140. belgaron says: Oct 21, 2012 3:39 PM

    Harbaugh would appreciate it if the referees could just look his way after each play to make sure there was nothing he would have called. Ok, thanks.

  141. 9nersducksgiants says: Oct 22, 2012 12:47 AM

    Call Harbaugh what you want, I will call him 18-6, sitting atop the NFC West, looking to return to the playoffs for the second time in his 2-year tenure as a pro football coach. As for everyone saying he was complaining…he was going to talk to the league to see if he could have Rogers, Brown and Culliver bump 20 yards down field (not a complaint, calls get made, calls get missed). And let us all pretend offensive linemen don’t hold every play every game.

    Oh and Seattle is 0-3 in the division HAHAHA

  142. 9nersducksgiants says: Oct 22, 2012 12:54 AM

    For the lions fan that was ripping Alex Smith, Detroit 0-2 against the niners Jim Harbaugh era. Also, 1-1 Alex Smith in the playoffs. Stafford…0-1 with a glass skeleton, how do you have the second best receiver in the league and he only has one TD catch through 6 weeks?

  143. stodgman says: Oct 22, 2012 11:58 AM

    SOMEBODY has to call out the obvious fact that the Seattle cornerbacks do a lot of “illegal holding”. If it is “legal” then EVERYONE should do it because it is obviously effective. If it is “illegal” then NO ONE should do it. The refs need to clarify which is which and then the players/coaches can adjust.

    One of things I hate most about the NBA is the unequal foul calls. Stars get calls . . . others do not. I do not want anything like that to permiate the NFL.

  144. norcalseahawkfan says: Oct 22, 2012 9:15 PM

    Seatt;e has the richest owner in sports, so he is buying off the refs. I would love to see the check the replacement refs got for that game aganst Green Bay.
    Some of you are really over the top when it comes to this game. or any game for that matter. We could say that haurbaught is trying to influnce the refs by crying all game long. then gets pissed when it doesnt work.
    the whinners won the fricken game but the cant shut up. WOW what would happend if they do get to the super bowl and lose one like the seahawks did!
    From the way the whinner fans are acting they would just commit suiside to prove a point.

  145. jnova80 says: Oct 23, 2012 11:23 AM

    A lot of trash talking about Harbaugh but I bet just about all of you guys would want him coaching your team…

  146. jnova80 says: Oct 23, 2012 11:31 AM

    bluereign says: Oct 20, 2012 1:25 AM

    Patrick Willis it the only 49er that can play fairly and be dominant. The rest are mediocre at best.

    —————————————————–

    Yep. Frank Gore, Justin Smith, Aldon Smith, Vernon Davis, Navarro Bowman and Dashon Goldson are all trash… Do you actually watch football?

  147. jetswin01 says: Oct 24, 2012 11:24 PM

    No body holds more than Cromartie. That’s how this game is.There is a penalty committed on EVERY play. Cmon, man. Thats football. Tell them to stop bitching and play.

  148. blu4l1fe says: Oct 25, 2012 3:41 PM

    Talk about a sore loser, wait hold on, but they won. Well, I guess, Harbaugh is just being Harbaugh. Really, I think we cannot just have a week without some kind of comment, or a complain, from him. This is just how he is. Call it whatever you wanna call it.

    But really though, his act is really becoming irritating. I mean, I don’t know the guy personally and I am quite sure he does have valid points, specifically regarding non-calls, but I kind of got a real good idea what kind of person he is after seeing how graciously he handled a win against Detroit last year.

    I guess it is just something that we’ll have to get used to. But I don’t know what’s worse, him being a sore loser or an even lousier winner.

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