Comments on: Jets want officials to give defense more time to substitute against Pats

By: sb44champs

sb44champs — Fri, 26 Oct 2012 19:10:04 +0000

The comments are, in essence, a more subtle version of Giants offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride’s complaint that 49ers defensive end Justin Smith “gets away with murder.”
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Oh the 49ers cheating, no not the 9ers(Eddie Debartelo)

By: MichaelEdits

MichaelEdits — Fri, 26 Oct 2012 02:07:48 +0000

That’s the whole reason for the no huddle. Always has been. Duh!

By: harry1941

harry1941 — Sun, 21 Oct 2012 18:07:07 +0000

The Jets should use the no-huddle on the Pat.Practice it with Jim Tebow. A no -huddle wildcat.

Go Jets

By: jm91rs

jm91rs — Sun, 21 Oct 2012 16:41:39 +0000

This method of public complaining worked for the bills when facing the bengals no-huddle in 88. I guess the stakes were a little higher in the playoffs than they are here, but Rex is probably hoping for the same result. Sadly after crying to the league, levy made the Sam wyche no huddle famous with Jim Kelly and the k-gun. If history repeats, Rex will be installing this offense in ny next year.

By: CKL

CKL — Sun, 21 Oct 2012 16:17:04 +0000

Infectorman, amen. That dude is obsessed and it’s pathetic. His own team is 2-3 so I’m not sure what his deal is. I guess he cares more about the mediocre Pats than he does about his sub-mediocre Steelers (recordwise, I mean).

As a Pats fan I don’t mind that the Jets coaches are making this public. Would I want BB to do it? No, I’d want him simply to mention it before the game to the refs, not publicly. That said, the NYJ are different, and handle everything differently from the Pats. Whether it works or not, that’s not a crime.It worked for them with the ST wall play when non decisive footage somehow showed up via Glazer of the Pats supposedly doing the same thing the Jets actually did. Why not try it again?

By: monropoobah

monropoobah — Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:50:30 +0000

the Pats DO substitute some of the time while in the no huddle. go watch your games. why is this so hard for you to understand. if they do sub on no huddle there’s a rule that governs how that needs to be handled.
the pats will most likely destroy my jets. fine if it goes that way. seems reasonable that they’re not allowed to exploit aspects of the rules that have received little attention in past games.
see how simple that is? f o l l o w t h e r u l e s.

By: infectorman

infectorman — Sun, 21 Oct 2012 14:12:37 +0000

@andrewproughecfe:

Warning!!
You are one strike away from violating the “whine about a specific team more than 99,999 times on PFT” rule.
You are in danger of losing your PFT membership.

Not only are you wrong in your strikingly female whinyness, bitchin, complaining assertions, the “humor” at the end of your post wouldn’t cause a 3rd grader to crack a smile.

New material please.

By: billh1947

billh1947 — Sun, 21 Oct 2012 13:56:25 +0000

If the rule states just what he quoted then he is correct in asking the refs to abide by that rule,if the offense keeps the same 11 on the field during the no huddle then there is no enforcement of the rule needed but if they sub then the defense must have the time to also get a sub in,thats the rules of the game and the Pats are not above the rules,yet.

By: suhisabeast90

suhisabeast90 — Sun, 21 Oct 2012 13:49:48 +0000

This should be a good Rivalry game. I’m not a fan of either, but love to watch these two compete against each other. Too bad the Jets Offense never lived up to the talent on it’s roster or this would be a little more evenly matched game. I fully expect to see Tebow play a lot. Not just because the Jets will be punting a ton, but because Rex will try to pull out all the stops against Bill. Pats will run a ton in this game and they should since they have a very good ground game. But I expect the Jets special teams and defense to come up with some big plays in this game. This will be the week Hernandez and Gronk put up some big numbers as the Pats find a way to hold off the Jets ……….Pats 31 Jets 23

Not a fan of either, personally I hope the tie!

By: patriots123456

patriots123456 — Sun, 21 Oct 2012 13:43:57 +0000

If the Jets just sent the bearded lady to approach the refs with their concerns then great.

Nope they dump it on the media, a true circus performance.

This is going to backfire, the crowd is normally quiet in Foxboro compared to other NFL venues. Today the crowd wakes up and will be noisy.

By: EJ

EJ — Sun, 21 Oct 2012 13:40:45 +0000

The Jets are just sore about getting beat up by the same style of play that the Buffalo Bills took to them in the early 90′s. Jim Kelly/Keith Mckeller’s K-gun no huddle Offense.

By: suhisabeast90

suhisabeast90 — Sun, 21 Oct 2012 13:38:41 +0000

I can’t believe the Jets are making excuses for losing before the game starts?

But they have a point….if in fact the refs no not let them substitute, then I believe there should be something done.

I hate to say it…..but the replacement refs don’t look so bad anymore. Seems like the long vacation is still lingering. Do they have a quota of penalties the have to fill every week? Just seems like all the late games and Monday games get waaay more called.

By: MTLighthouse69

MTLighthouse69 — Sun, 21 Oct 2012 13:23:23 +0000

Will some of you Patriots’ fans stop whining and read the article more carefully?

The Jets want the current rules enforced, and apparently are claiming in some situations the rules aren’t being enforced properly. They aren’t looking for special treatment. And no, I am not a Jet fan. I am a Charger fan, the Chargers have their own set of different problems.

By: gingerkidboston2012

gingerkidboston2012 — Sun, 21 Oct 2012 13:15:02 +0000

Awww look at all the Pats haters looking for excuses if the Jets lose. Don’t recall the Seahawks or the Broncos crying like a bunch of girls about this? Rex & Calvin have just basically admitted that they know they can’t stop the Pats offense and since their offense isn’t going to be able to run the ball against the Pats #6 run defense they are going to need as much help from the refs as they can get. The fact that the Jets & their fans are whining about a college football strategy is weak sauce. Just like the Jets. Maybe they can go back to tripping players on the sidelines?

By: j0esixpack

j0esixpack — Sun, 21 Oct 2012 13:14:08 +0000

Of course the key term here is that if the Patriots aren’t substituting on Offense they can snap the ball as quickly as they want.

The Jets will still whine though

By: blackbug99

blackbug99 — Sun, 21 Oct 2012 12:56:33 +0000

On offense they want at least 5 Mississippi’s before the Pats can rush!

By: lrjets

lrjets — Sun, 21 Oct 2012 12:52:26 +0000

If you know the pats you would know that this sad attempt by the jets won’t matter. The pats don’t change the offensive personal a lot when they do this.

Oh the Jets know the Pats allright. Especially when they were illegally taped. What is that called now and forever? Spygate?

How about the Tuck Rule?

How about illegally practicing with players on the injured list?

Nah , the Pats are angels.
Too bad everytime there’s an article mentioning the word “JETS”, it’s a petri dish for these pathetic haters.

By: patsbbfan

patsbbfan — Sun, 21 Oct 2012 12:48:19 +0000

What really happened is Tebow ran the scout team to perfection and copied all this, according to another article on PFT so the D could not stop Tebow when he copied this at 80% speed. Rex and his coaches watched practice tapes and realized… We are in deep s$!t and therfore lets make this another Pats beat us because they bend the rules.

I have seen D’s substitute if Pats sub in hurry up but coaches and players on other team need to bring their A game to do it.

Of course this creates an advantage for Pats that is why they do it. No different than any other team taking advantage of their personnel and abilities. I have seen this work for pats and i have seen it flop. Late in games it has not been working to well.

So all the people saying cheaters and whinning about the Pats way…. You wish you had a coach that was as inventive as BB.

By: offthelows

offthelows — Sun, 21 Oct 2012 12:38:39 +0000

I’m surprised nobody talks about player safety in regards to hurry up offense. It leaves less time to observe if a player is injured or has concussion by either the officials, the sidelines or the player himself.

By: achap39

achap39 — Sun, 21 Oct 2012 12:35:15 +0000

Let the excuses begin…

By: lawyermalloy

lawyermalloy — Sun, 21 Oct 2012 12:34:46 +0000

When BB run the “no huddle” he doesn’t substitute;Pettine must have missed that on film.

By: steviethewiz

steviethewiz — Sun, 21 Oct 2012 12:32:24 +0000

The Pats CHEATING again???!!!! Say it aint so…….******** CHEATERS once cheaters ALWAYS !!!!!

By: al40110

al40110 — Sun, 21 Oct 2012 06:05:49 +0000

I seem to remember reading many post about Brady being nothing but a “cry baby”. All the player cry when a call doesn’t go their way. It’s a fact of life for these guys.

By: zinn22

zinn22 — Sun, 21 Oct 2012 06:04:43 +0000

What is most interesting is the Jets are the reason this rule was put in writing.

Back in 2007 there was no such written rule but there was unwritten agreement between coaches that they wold not abuse substitutions to gain a competitive advantage. Mangini used late substitutions that did not allow the Colts to change players on defense.

After the game Dungy was outraged and said it was cheating on the part of Mangini. The competition committee called an emergency meeting the next week where the made the above rule.

Now we come full circle where the Jets want the protection of the rule that their abuse caused to be made. I find it quite ironic and I am a Jets fan.

By: ikkarus2

ikkarus2 — Sun, 21 Oct 2012 05:51:48 +0000

Hey JimJets,

Didn’t LT also say the Jets suck? Didn’t he say the team was a bad team, and they had no leaders?

Just play fair, from a Jets fan. All this is a pre-excuse. Rex is seeding the fans so if they lose they know what excuse to use.

By: ikkarus2

ikkarus2 — Sun, 21 Oct 2012 05:47:33 +0000

Let’s examine all the rules, how about those blocks in the back and neck holds by the offensive line, or offensive PI, or for the Jets fans the defensive line faking the snap to draw a false start.

This is an attempt to manipulate the Refs in the favor of the Jets. The Refs miss calls all the time, but somehow now they in league with the Pats and only the sharp eye, and wisdom of Rex Ryan can catch it.

Please, there will be calls missed on both sides, I hope they make more bad calls on the Jets, I hope they miss every call on the Pats. I hope the Pats win after which I hope Rex is fired so I won’t have to listen to some BS before every single Pats Jets game.

By: nathanbetz91

nathanbetz91 — Sun, 21 Oct 2012 05:30:20 +0000

I hear everyone on here complaining about the jets, and how they aren’t as good as the patriots, and that may be true.but at least give them credit for knowing about a rule not alot of teams know about and simply asking the officials to watch it. It doesn’t make them any worse of a team if they ask the officials to simply pay attention because they’re right what new England does with the no huddle is borderline unfair

By: hehateme2

hehateme2 — Sun, 21 Oct 2012 04:43:48 +0000

the jests are weak…. in the mind and body. They’re already lost the game before it’s been played.

They have rolled over and showed their yellow belly.

By: neilpountney

neilpountney — Sun, 21 Oct 2012 04:23:49 +0000

I suppose if a Jets’ coach trips someone and the Pats complain about it, you’d tell Belichick to quit whining, too?

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Patriots are NOT breaking any rules, when they go no huddle they absolutely use the same personnel without substituting. If you knew the laws of the game you would know this is perfectly legal.

By: neilpountney

neilpountney — Sun, 21 Oct 2012 04:21:52 +0000

Sounds like they are merely reminding the officials of what the rules are. I’m not a Jets fan, but I see nothing wrong with what was said.
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Do you need reminding when you need to go to the bathroom?

Do we need to remind a police officer that drinking and driving is illegal?

Thought not!