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Bills, Erie County not interested in downtown stadium

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As plenty of media outlets are trumpeting a proposed football stadium to be built in downtown Buffalo, most are overlooking a key fact.  Or two.

First, the Bills aren’t interested.  Second, the powers-that-be in Erie County aren’t interested, either.

Per WIVB-TV, Bills CEO Russ Brandon said Tuesday that the proposed $1.4 billion stadium is a “non-starter” and that there’s “nothing to it.”  Ditto for Erie County executive Mark Poloncarz, who said “there are several problems with the proposed Outer Harbor site, such as a lack of space needed for parking, distance from the downtown core, and insufficient road infrastructure (particularly in bad weather) to accommodate the thousands of fans heading to the site.”

And so the goal continues to be to negotiate a new lease for the Bills at Ralph Wilson Stadium, not to build a new venue.

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  1. lennydpocketqb says: Oct 23, 2012 11:09 PM

    Los Angeles has none of these unique issues.

  2. purplengold says: Oct 23, 2012 11:14 PM

    What’s wrong with Ralph Wilson Stadium? It’s better than TCF Bank Stadium.

  3. greeneblitz says: Oct 23, 2012 11:14 PM

    “Los Angeles has none of these unique issues.”

    …nor the good fans that Buffalo does.

  4. frankgarrett says: Oct 23, 2012 11:15 PM

    bills should go to the CFL

  5. fitzmagic1212 says: Oct 23, 2012 11:19 PM

    im sorry but this just makes the bills organization look more clueless. THEY WANT TO BUILD YOU A NEW STADIUM TAKE IT AND RUN

  6. Mike Lamparelli says: Oct 23, 2012 11:27 PM

    New York already has sky-high taxes. They don’t need to foot the bill for a new JerryWorld. Rich Stadium (yes, I still call it that) is great, and should be enough for the Bills to stay in Buffalo. If Los Angeles wants a team, take Jacksonville.

  7. ghostofgilchrist says: Oct 23, 2012 11:27 PM

    Build one close to the Thruway heading east towards Rochester. Makes travel easier for the “extended market” to the East, and helps those fans identify with the team.

  8. SparkyGump says: Oct 23, 2012 11:35 PM

    Upgrade the existing facility. It’s already in a great location.

  9. richc111 says: Oct 23, 2012 11:40 PM

    I get sick and tired listening to how LA wants a team. They have had 2 teams in the past 25 years there and lost them both. I feel sorry for any team that loses their team to LA, because there will always be someone to take up their cause. I can see the deal now. 11 bazillion dollars we will pay, but you know what you need to let us win a super bowl or in 5 years all the fans will stop coming because we are going to charge $200 a ticket to cover the cost of the huge stadium we just built. LA is not a football town, and it shows time and time again. Everyone just looks at the population and drools. Screw LA and their crappy fans!

  10. everyonethinksitimsayingit says: Oct 23, 2012 11:43 PM

    Mario Williams isn’t interested either…….

  11. mattypbillsmafia says: Oct 24, 2012 12:15 AM

    Everyone needs to layoff the bills to L.A. Thing, not gonna happen… EVER… downtown isn’t a plausible place for a new stadium. What people in other parts of the country don’t understand is that unlike teams in Florida and California Buffalo fans stick by their teams through thick an thin… Go to a sabres game in Carolina, Florida, pretty much anywhere in the south and you’ll see more sabres fans than home fans. We have a HUGE fan base from people that moved away and that goes double for home games. They sellout every game pretty much, not like fla or Cali where you only go to a game when it’s trendy or when your team is winning… We bleed red white an blue for the bills and blue and gold for the sabres. I’ve been to a bucs game in Tampa v. The saints and the crowd is such a mix of fans from all over the country I wouldn’t call it home field advantage at all. The bills game I went to in Miami was pathetic, more than half were Bills fans. So don’t try telling me the Bills are going to L.A. Until you’ve done some research bud ;)

  12. thegreatgabbert says: Oct 24, 2012 12:22 AM

    “Downtown Buffalo, you kidding?”, laughed a member of the Bill’s front office. “I wouldn’t make my dog live there.”.

  13. carnival88 says: Oct 24, 2012 1:20 AM

    If I have to listen to one more bills fan talk about how great the fanbase is, I am going to puke.

    Great fanbases sell out every game. The bills are on pace for 4 games to not sell out this year (miami, st. louis, jax and NYJ), not to mention they get the benefit of one less game too bc toronto is taking the Seattle game. If youre so great then explain that.

    Hands down the most annoying fans in the league.

    Russ Brandon and the whole organization is a joke.

  14. skoobyfl says: Oct 24, 2012 1:21 AM

    When Ralph passes this team is in LA, this confirms it.

  15. maddenisfordorks says: Oct 24, 2012 1:30 AM

    As a jag fan who lived in west NY for several years …

    The whole city of LA can line up single file and kiss our (Jags and Bills) butts. If you want a team you need to earn it. And then prove you can keep it …. which you didn’t twice.

    Bills belong to west NY, a beautiful place. Jags belong in JAX … Duuuuuval!

  16. sdiegosteel says: Oct 24, 2012 1:31 AM

    Buffalo has a downtown? Is that where the two story buildings are?

  17. misterdreamer119 says: Oct 24, 2012 1:34 AM

    Im from LA we dont want the Bills. Your owner sucks and he lives in Detroit. Im sure Buffalo fans are great fans and LA fans are bandwagon Laker fans.
    Whatever team comes here needs a new name new owner fresh start.

  18. richiesaurus310 says: Oct 24, 2012 1:43 AM

    I thought the bills were moving to Toronto?

  19. cavredleg15 says: Oct 24, 2012 1:53 AM

    mattypbillsmafia says: Oct 24, 2012 12:15 AM

    Everyone needs to layoff the bills to L.A. Thing, not gonna happen… EVER… downtown isn’t a plausible place for a new stadium. What people in other parts of the country don’t understand is that unlike teams in Florida and California Buffalo fans stick by their teams through thick an thin… Go to a sabres game in Carolina, Florida, pretty much anywhere in the south and you’ll see more sabres fans than home fans. We have a HUGE fan base from people that moved away and that goes double for home games. They sellout every game pretty much, not like fla or Cali where you only go to a game when it’s trendy or when your team is winning… We bleed red white an blue for the bills and blue and gold for the sabres. I’ve been to a bucs game in Tampa v. The saints and the crowd is such a mix of fans from all over the country I wouldn’t call it home field advantage at all. The bills game I went to in Miami was pathetic, more than half were Bills fans. So don’t try telling me the Bills are going to L.A. Until you’ve done some research bud ;)

    I completely agree with you about Buffalo fans. They are loyal. Even after they leave Buffalo(or the area) I have been a Bucs Fan since I was 7 years old in 1987. How many people from Tampa are moving away? We still have people coming here. Despite the housing and job market- I meet people everyday from everyone from the MidWest and Northeast. They leave their Home Teams area… but keep the loyalty for the team.

  20. sarkent says: Oct 24, 2012 3:22 AM

    Buffalo comes up because its a relatively small city for the NFL and because Ralph Wilson himself is on the record saying the doesn’t think its a viable market in the current NFL.

    That said, if Wilson signs them into a long-term extension at the current stadium, the team is in relatively good shape. Leases can always be bought out, but whoever the new owner is would have to think twice about breaking it.

    However, the real question is whether the NFL will allow the Bills to commit long-term to that stadium without a major renovation committment. The league isn’t going to let Buffalo get by with a cheap stadium.

  21. i10east says: Oct 24, 2012 4:43 AM

    LA Dollar Bills est. 2014

  22. boyshole25 says: Oct 24, 2012 5:36 AM

    Put it in Batavia area all of upstate would benefit from it and be able to see more games

  23. gpry says: Oct 24, 2012 6:01 AM

    Buffalo has a downtown?

  24. sclazo says: Oct 24, 2012 6:50 AM

    Bills fans trying to defend their is a joke. That stadium does not always sell out. That game against the Patriots at least a third of that stadium was patriots fans. All the bills fans left in the 4th quarter and a ton of patriots fans where still in there. Probably one of the few times the stadium does sell out is when the pats come.

  25. cereal blogger says: Oct 24, 2012 7:08 AM

    There is nothing wrong with RW stadium, no need for a new stadium….why must everybody build, build, build then pay, pay, pay more in taxes ? No thanks….

  26. csilojohnson says: Oct 24, 2012 7:19 AM

    LA is a garbage market and always will be. Can only handle one team. The Lakers

  27. joetoronto says: Oct 24, 2012 7:25 AM

    richiesaurus310 says: Oct 24, 2012 1:43 AM

    I thought the bills were moving to Toronto?
    *************************************************

    Bills fans could soon be wishing the team DID move to Toronto.

    L.A. is a hell of a lot further away.

  28. dan7800 says: Oct 24, 2012 7:28 AM

    No parking?! Try killing one of (if not the top) tailgates in the NFL?!

    Bills are the only team in NYS and are not going to move.

    LA does not deserve a team. They had two and lost them both.

  29. bills4life says: Oct 24, 2012 7:34 AM

    maybe if bufflo a tiny Stadium like most NFL teams we would sell out more games. we are one of the smallest markets in NFL yet have the third or fourth largest stadium……go figure

  30. quannumkid says: Oct 24, 2012 7:43 AM

    @sclazo I’ve seen Pats fans file out of Gillette myself, MNF when Buffalo was up heading into the 4th quarter, not even a blowout. Many Pats fans don’t remember the times before Kraft, Belichick and Brady, when the team was sold 3 times and nearly moved. Get off your soapbox.

  31. whitemike55 says: Oct 24, 2012 7:44 AM

    Ralph Wilson Stadium is a DUMP!!

  32. jacksonjames4 says: Oct 24, 2012 7:53 AM

    the people that bash Buffalo and WNY have no idea how dumb they make themselves look. there are more amenities here than most cities I’ve been too. that’s why people who move here, stay here. It just that getting someone to move here initially is the hard part because there’s too many uneducated morons that make remarks that stick. I bet I can trump anyone on comparisons

  33. lennydpocketqb says: Oct 24, 2012 8:31 AM

    I guess that proud Bills fan base is also hoping that Ralph Wilson is going to live forever. A lease can be broken. A new stadium ties a team down for three decades. If they are not getting a new stadium Bills faithful better hope the next owner wants to have a stadium in the middle of a suburban western New York neighborhood.

  34. 2ruefan says: Oct 24, 2012 8:57 AM

    More than half of the Bills Fan base is outside of Buffalo. (Points East to be specific)

    If a new stadium is built, it should be in a more suburban/rural area towards Batavia/Rochester making it easier for traffic flow both in and out of Buffalo as well as from the other half of their fan base.

    Downtown Buffalo is actually a very nice metropolitan area, but it is true, there really is not sufficient road infrastructure to handle traffic in and out of it.

    It would be a nightmare….

  35. dan7800 says: Oct 24, 2012 9:08 AM

    I wonder who you root for?

    ***************************

    Bills fans trying to defend their is a joke. That stadium does not always sell out. That game against the Patriots at least a third of that stadium was patriots fans. All the bills fans left in the 4th quarter and a ton of patriots fans where still in there. Probably one of the few times the stadium does sell out is when the pats come.

  36. newyorkgiants11 says: Oct 24, 2012 9:36 AM

    So who likes the sound of the “Toronto Bills”, eh?

  37. dtjano says: Oct 24, 2012 10:29 AM

    Going to be hard for fans to chose between all the teams LA is going to get.

  38. wwwmattcom says: Oct 24, 2012 10:35 AM

    Newyorkgiants11

    As much as I like the sound of New York Giants and New York Jets. East Rutherford Giants and Florham Park Jets. Ahem.

    I love the Bills current stadium. What kind of venue does one need to watch football? I am on my feet all game in the rock pile. A new stadium is second to the problems on the field. If the Bills leave it would probably just start a carousel like LA, St. Louis, Oakland, etc. in the north east. Canada isn’t the answer for the NFL regarding the Buffalo Bills. It might be an answer for expansion though.

    New teams for LA, Toronto Canada, Vancouver Canada & London.

  39. buffalomafia says: Oct 24, 2012 1:13 PM

    With all due respect, Ralph Wilson doesn’t know if he is in K-Mart or Ine Bills Drive?!

    Also with his age wouldn’t you think by now Buffalo would know the next owner by now?

    Nobody in Buffalo knows. That’s why I think team might move? Also why would Ralph Wilson take a home game away frim Buffalo fans & have a game in Toronto?

    As for politicians in Buffalo they should worry about the rif raf in the East Side of Buffalo destroying neighborhoods!

  40. sheek585 says: Oct 24, 2012 2:07 PM

    Downtown Rochester has a big hole to build the stadium. More then half of the Bills fans come frm Rochester/Monroe County area anyway. They sitting on the money for tht big hole some development. Real Bills fans dnt support the Toronto series crap(HINT HINT)

  41. billsboy88 says: Oct 24, 2012 7:42 PM

    Guys, the article says they aren’t going to build a new stadium downtown, that’s all, relax. This is because the location of Ralph Wilson Stadium is fantastic. Moving the games into the city would destroy the game day atmosphere in Orchard Park the Bills’ faithful have come to love and expect. The Bills will sign a new lease, the Ralph will undergo massive renovation, and hosts of other PFT commentors will need to find some other reason to trash the Bills cuz I guess it makes them feel better about themselves.

    For those of you hating on the Bills’ fanbase, let’s see how excited you would be to buy tickets to a December game when the team hasn’t been in the playoff for 12 years and doesn’t look to be changing that trend this season. It’s really easy to be a fan of a winning team, it honestly takes guts to be a fan of this team.

    If they would just win some games all this noise would stop. Seems so simple…

  42. billsboy88 says: Oct 24, 2012 7:49 PM

    “Probably one of the few times the stadium does sell out is when the pats come.”

    Well, you are wrong. It is quite that simple. Ten seconds on google will tell you the same.
    Thanks for playing.

  43. dtjano says: Oct 24, 2012 9:27 PM

    They could put that stadium next to Bass Pro.

    If they’re going to put 220 mil into Ralph Wilson Stadium why not explore options for a new stadium. I think a 1.4 billion dollar metroplex is absurd. Detroit built Ford field for half that. Browns, Steelers, Bengals built fields for about 1/4 of that.

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