Comments on: Federal judge gives players until Wednesday to file motion to recuse Tagliabue

By: thelastpieceofcheese

thelastpieceofcheese — Tue, 23 Oct 2012 22:16:17 +0000

“There’s no indication as to whether Tagliabue has responded, or even will respond, to the letter sent by the NFLPA on Monday”

Why would Tagliabue waste his time with junk mail?

By: stew48

stew48 — Tue, 23 Oct 2012 21:35:04 +0000

I should have offered one correction to 8888. The first two words, “In theory”, need to be replaced by the word actualy.

By: stew48

stew48 — Tue, 23 Oct 2012 21:32:59 +0000

Now, if you commenters really want to have an understanding about this matter, just read “8888″, study it and then swallow it, because that is precisely “what it is all about”.

By: heroofthisparish

heroofthisparish — Tue, 23 Oct 2012 21:29:30 +0000

If the NFLPA made up of players who may have been hurt (If Guilty) are backing them doesn’t that tell you somthing.

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Yes it does: the NFLPA is perpetually overly militant for the sake of it and determined to destroy the NFL as something we can all be interested in.

By: genericuser8888

genericuser8888 — Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:50:21 +0000

In theory, federal judges always have power over any CBA. If one party claims that the basic tenants of fairness prescribed in federal labor law have been violated, then a judge can look and decide if the process has been fair or not. While the CBA attempts to keep matters out of court, agreements such as the CBA are only allowed to exist so long as they abide by federal labor laws. For example, the players gave Goodell power over punishments, but they did so with a basic expectation of fairness. Such expectations are in line with labor law. Now, what constitutes “fair” – well, the players and the league disagree over that at times, and that is why we are where we are today – federal court.

To paraphrase Vilma’s lawyer, if the CBA process is unfair, then the courts are a player’s only recourse to be made whole.

By: miles58a

miles58a — Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:34:37 +0000

marthisdil says:
Oct 23, 2012 4:10 PM
The league should file to have the NFLPA lawyers removed, too, as a conflict of interest – since they represent the people accused of offering money to hurt other players AND the players who may have been hurt by these players.

Force the players to pay for their own lawyer.
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If the NFLPA made up of players who may have been hurt (If Guilty) are backing them doesn’t that tell you somthing.

By: marthisdil

marthisdil — Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:10:24 +0000

The league should file to have the NFLPA lawyers removed, too, as a conflict of interest – since they represent the people accused of offering money to hurt other players AND the players who may have been hurt by these players.

Force the players to pay for their own lawyer.

By: ghjjf

ghjjf — Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:02:35 +0000

The only thing this judge (or any judge) can legally do is declare that the CBA is illegal.

By: mark0226

mark0226 — Tue, 23 Oct 2012 19:45:50 +0000

Seems to me that if they successfully eliminate Tags, then Goodell will just do it himself again.

By: miles58a

miles58a — Tue, 23 Oct 2012 19:30:51 +0000

Goodell is giving the courts authority by not following the CBA and providing evidence

By: clickablecontent

clickablecontent — Tue, 23 Oct 2012 19:28:25 +0000

Who would the NFLPA possibly accept? From their perspective, anyone currently working for the NFL – under Goodell, or anyone appointed by Goodell or the NFL would inherently share his bias. The only recourse the NFLPA could possibly be pushing for is an unrelated 3rd-party – which is exactly what the NFL is fighting: Outside and/or government control over NFL matters. It’s just not going to happen. The short of it is that the NFLPA wants to dictate NFL practices. This is a power play by the union, pure and simple.

By: FinFan68

FinFan68 — Tue, 23 Oct 2012 19:26:00 +0000

Why would the judge make such a statement concerning a case that was put on hiatus? The NFLPA/player lawyers have not brought this matter to the court yet so why prompt them? If you listen to this judge’s comments (before and after listening to argument) it seems as if the NFL/Goodell have as much of a case for recusal of Berrigan as the players do for Tagliabue…actually more so. This judge seems to be steering the actions rather than adjudicating them. I understand the need for swift decisions but the process started over and has not yet completed. After it is done, the players can request a hearing with the judge and then she should offer an opinion/guidance.

By: kattykathy

kattykathy — Tue, 23 Oct 2012 19:24:16 +0000

Here we go again with all these simple minded saints haters. Seriously, to come on here and make statements that the judge has no authority makes you look so moronic.
I think i will trust Judge Berrigan’s legal opinion on over yours EVERY DAY, whether or not she has authority.

By: kattykathy

kattykathy — Tue, 23 Oct 2012 19:20:33 +0000

Contrary to the beliefs of Goodell lovers who may be able to read and hear but not fully comprehend what they are reading or hearing, the Saints did NOT have a “bounty” program.

By: willardj

willardj — Tue, 23 Oct 2012 19:20:29 +0000

Definitely agree with you on this one. Suh wasn’t trying to lay out Cutler, he just fell on him awkwardly and hurt a few of his ribs.

By: dvdman123

dvdman123 — Tue, 23 Oct 2012 19:14:25 +0000

A lot of lawyers have made a ton of money since March 2012 and they still have a lot more to make before this mess is finally over with.

By: purplegreenandgold

purplegreenandgold — Tue, 23 Oct 2012 19:05:46 +0000

“Contrary to the beliefs of certain non-lawyers who may be able to read but not fully comprehend what they’re reading”
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as a Saints fan I got more of a chuckle out of this than after the game Sunday

By: marthisdil

marthisdil — Tue, 23 Oct 2012 19:04:30 +0000

SeenThisB4 says: Oct 23, 2012 2:43 PM

Actually, the court does have that authority over the arbitration.

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Actually, not really – not unless she wants to declare the CBA invalid.

Since it’s not a criminal law that has been broken, the players still have to deal with the due process the CBA forces them to abide by.

By: thraiderskin

thraiderskin — Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:57:08 +0000

Maybe the players want Vilma to oversee the bounty appeals.

By: crush1128

crush1128 — Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:44:02 +0000

this so f**ked up.

By: SeenThisB4

SeenThisB4 — Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:43:48 +0000

Actually, the court does have that authority over the arbitration.

By: citizenstrange

citizenstrange — Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:43:07 +0000

LKF (Little Known Fact)
The original lyrics for Hendrix’s Purple Haze were “recuse me while I kiss the sky.”