Comments on: Moon thinks criticism of Newton is off-base, possibly racist

By: magnustroi

magnustroi — Tue, 30 Oct 2012 13:55:11 +0000

nflrule says: Oct 27, 2012 6:46 PM

Give Newton a break.Young QB who is plays for a team that sucks.There is no denying his talent and also his prima dona attitude.He needs a good QB coach,a kick in the ass,and some talent around him.As far as Warren Moon-please.Just go away.Never won a big game in the NFL after unreal career in Canada so he has a bug up his ass over that.

nflrule? I think you are Dead on about Warren Moon,Actually ? He Never did a thing in the NFL ,All his yards and Glory came from the minor league in Canada ,He never produced for Houston nor did he for the Vikings . Moon was a canadian QB NOT NFL …. Read his stats !!!

By: warhammer420

warhammer420 — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 15:57:13 +0000

Playing the racism card, wow that is super original. Moon was a great player, but I find his social commentary to be quite annoying.

By: nflrule

nflrule — Sat, 27 Oct 2012 22:46:30 +0000

By: magnustroi

magnustroi — Fri, 26 Oct 2012 23:14:20 +0000

I think if you have watched QB’s through time ? 95% of ALL great QB’s are great because they are Pocket passers First ,and running backs Second, Scrambling means moving around to buy time, If your a QB? and your leading your team in rushing ? Oops !! what are your RB’s doing ? As far as Black QB’s succeeding ? I must remind you of a Fairly Good QB Named Randall Cunningham !!! remember his days in Philly? He ran all the time !!! Then the last 4-5 yrs of his career in Minny ,He became a Pocket passer and was Deadly because he could still run when he needed but he learned to read DF’s and became a very good passer!! Could you Imagine if he’d played that way in Philly? I have No Doubt he would have been a HOF’er.
If Cam Newton can learn that ? He will be an extremely Dangerous QB !!!!!!!!

By: tindeaux

tindeaux — Thu, 25 Oct 2012 16:14:01 +0000

well, most african american qb runs the balls… so that was why the comparision was drawn. if you were to compare newton with mannings, or brady, or even Luck? not even close.

By: chalkruz1989

chalkruz1989 — Thu, 25 Oct 2012 11:39:02 +0000

Thank you Warren Moon for opening my eyes on why I didn’t get drafted into the NFL. I am white that’s why…Or because I am 5’7 and 220 pounds. I am going to play the race card though!

In all seriousness, Cam Newton is a special talent, he has all of the tools to be a great player for a long time. But, his mental state could be the one thing that holds him back. He needs to be a leader and when they lose be the one to accept blame and instead of saying add it to the suggestion box, he could say next game we will play better and be mature.

Warren Moon sure dealt with racism as I am sure Cam does too. But, to constantly play the race card is such a cop-out. Well, I guess ESPN will run with this so thanks for giving them something to talk about for the next two-three months.

By: jetswin01

jetswin01 — Thu, 25 Oct 2012 03:02:06 +0000

If Newton wins, this becomes a non issue. He won’t win with the team they have now. Panthers need to stay in the pro spread and get some better skill players, and it will all be OK. And they might draft for some D so they can hold a lead.

By: anacherforester

anacherforester — Thu, 25 Oct 2012 02:18:31 +0000

Racism? That’s a tough call. It may be lazy to compare two African-American QB’s with a similar skill set who both led their teams to BCS Championships and have maturity issues. Then again it may not be…

By: eleventyeight

eleventyeight — Thu, 25 Oct 2012 01:30:52 +0000

Calling all criticism “racism” is a childish cop-out.

Maybe Newton’s just a whiny butt-hole and is hiding behind the mirage of “racism”.

Isn’t the whole race-thing played out yet?

By: bluereign

bluereign — Thu, 25 Oct 2012 01:27:58 +0000

Racism continues to exist because of people like Warren Moon. White people are constantly criticized just as Latino and Asians are as well, yet they all take it in stride. Now when a black person is criticized by someone OTHER than a black person, all hell breaks lose. Everyone is racist then. What a joke. You want to play the race card? Fine, you still have more than half of the critics, you know, black people who don’t view the people of color’s skin when formulating an opinion

By: chi01town

chi01town — Wed, 24 Oct 2012 22:37:11 +0000

Somebody tell CAM that in the NFL
when you WIN you are a hero BUT if you lose its all your falt. thats the life of an NFL QB…. ITS NOT ABOUT
RACE ITS ABOUT WINNING. an it wont get better this week cause Chicago will beat the panthers this week.

By: dgmorris1963

dgmorris1963 — Wed, 24 Oct 2012 22:04:43 +0000

I’m white and believe there is plenty of racism still going on in society. As for Cam, I think getting the Panthers running game going would help relieve the pressure he may be putting on himself to do it all.

By: kingpel

kingpel — Wed, 24 Oct 2012 20:39:58 +0000

I think the comparison makes sense. These guys game play a very similiar style of game and really there arent any QBs I can think of built like VY and Cam. There are no 6’6 white guys who won national titles in college by able to dominate defenses with their arms and legs , who then came into the NFL and dominated in their rookie season.

VY and Cam are freaks and that is a good thing. Cam would be wise to quit getting upset by comparisons to Young and try to learn from his mistakes.

By: justwinbaby29

justwinbaby29 — Wed, 24 Oct 2012 19:27:33 +0000

If fairness to Warren Moon he was screwed as a black QB in this era. There is some bitterness. But his comments are a way off. Newton deserved the heat he took and had NOTHING to do with his race!

By: hikohadon

hikohadon — Wed, 24 Oct 2012 17:13:36 +0000

“nestaaali says: Oct 23, 2012 1:43 PM
Now go ahead and click that thumbs down. Show your bias.”
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Awwww, how cute. Now if you don’t agree with him/her, you’re biased/racist there too.

PS – Matt Stafford sucks this year.

You obviously don’t live in Detroit if you think no one’s saying it.

By: fuglyflorio

fuglyflorio — Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:59:29 +0000

Moon thinks if you don’t like chocolate ice cream you’re a racist.

By: crappygovernment

crappygovernment — Wed, 24 Oct 2012 15:37:11 +0000

Warren Moon = black Testaverde

I am still amazed that he is in HOF. He was never a top 10 qb in his playing days, and had a terrible playoff record to boot.

By: bahia2

bahia2 — Wed, 24 Oct 2012 14:20:38 +0000

After reading all these comments I believe it’s time for Mr.Moon to get under a rock and hide.
He is not the big man on campus he thinks he is.

By: therealbleedcoltsblue

therealbleedcoltsblue — Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:41:55 +0000

I think black guys should just stop trying to be NFL quarterbacks. The media, the bigots, and the faceless masses on the internet will never give a fair shake to a black qb.

They will be begrudgingly quiet when he does well, but will be quick to pile on the moment his performance slips or something negative is brought up about him away from the field.

Then when this lopsided criticism is noticed, the ‘he’s playing the race card’ pile on begins.

As much praise/apathy is being heaped onto RGIII, I’m sure the boo birds and haters will come out the MOMENT he struggles just a little.

when its all white.. its allllll right!

By: tigerwoodsballs

tigerwoodsballs — Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:31:39 +0000

Ask Steve Nash and Larry Bird about racism in sports. Ask Jordy Nelson and Wes Welker too.

Then someone tape Moon’s mouth shut with duct tape, and let us men discuss football, and not bogus Race Card 101 garbage.

Anyone see the movie “White Men Can’t Jump” back in the 80′s?
Let’s see you make and name a movie “Black Men Can’t……” (fill in the blank, there are many you could use that compare to can’t jump)

By: megl3155

megl3155 — Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:31:12 +0000

Yeah, and the Cowboys suck because their quarterback is white.
I hate to burst your little bubble of delusion, Moonie, but Newton’s criticism has EVERYTHING to do with Cam’s production–excuse me, lack of–and NOTHING to do with race.
OR it has EVERYTHING to do with the fact that he’s been in the league LESS than two years.

By: tigerwoodsballs

tigerwoodsballs — Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:27:23 +0000

Me thinks that Warren Moon is actually racist and I will put my money where my mouth (actually typing fingers, but you get my point):

Even though Obuma vows to raise taxes for the wealthy, which includes the Afrikan Moon, I bet you that Moon still gives his vote to Obuma, and it’s for ONE REASON only. And guess what, THAT reason is nothing other than PURE RACISM.

It DOES work both ways brother.

By: davidcl77

davidcl77 — Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:52:56 +0000

What we have here is an immature punk kid who is basically sulking like a baby. During the offseason he said he was going to do better with leadership after losses. Apparently he can’t do it.
As for Moon, similar to Chris Matthews, he’s an idiot. Was it racism last year when everyone was praising this punk?
Is it racism this year when people praise RG3?!?!?
What ignorance!!! Cut out the racism crap! Act like you have an ounce of sense!

By: chi01town

chi01town — Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:44:13 +0000

tell Moon to go home with all that bull crap. Cam is losing games like any other 2nd year QB. The defensive coordinators have had time to watch Film of him an they know how to stop him. an you cant compair Cam to Cutler because Cutler is 5/1. You cant say nothing about a WINNER.

By: packerbackerwalt

packerbackerwalt — Wed, 24 Oct 2012 07:40:32 +0000

Warren, Cam Newton is a bust and a one year wonder. Quite frankly, you weren’t that good either, you just managed to stay in the league a long time. Doesn’t have anything to do about race, if it did the NFL wouldn’t even exist. I must ask why you are bringing it up so much? You spout the same thing year after year. Explain this to me, 70% of the players are black men, 70% of the fans are white men, where’s the racism you so often always speak of? It seems to me both races, and others make it work, so quit with stirring a pot nobody wants to hear about anymore.

By: magnustroi

magnustroi — Wed, 24 Oct 2012 07:14:35 +0000

Good God !!!! Moon was my teams QB for a Little while …. So I am impartial when I say this !!!! Warren Moon is a racist himself !!!! So How does he have the Gaul !!! to call other people Racist ??? Cam Newton has always been known as a showboat when winning and a whiny Baby when LOSING !! Newton ? If your going to be a good QB ? You have to stop whining and when your losing Don’t run over and sit on the sideline with a towel over your head!! Stay in the Game !!! Watch what the other team is doing !!! Maybe you will pick up something useful for your next meeting !!!!

By: footballchic777

footballchic777 — Wed, 24 Oct 2012 04:08:32 +0000

Moon pulled this same crap out of the bag last year……..bkah, blah, blah, racism, blah, blah. Warren, no one wants to hear it anymore, And you said it is basically because he never lost in college that he acts like this…..which one of his multiple colleges would that be? What you should be saying is” Cam, you need to grow up, man up, and drop your ego at the door and become a TEAM player! “.

By: itsthemelman82

itsthemelman82 — Wed, 24 Oct 2012 00:48:30 +0000

@hor2012

Set aside immaturity Cam is struggling just as bad as Matt Stafford and his play is under a microscope every week outside of last nights Monday night game you don’t hear a peep about how bad Stafford has been playing.

Also, if you bothered to read the comment section before last yr, you’d notice just how many “Scam Newton” or “he’s the next Jamarcus Russell” comments were posted… This is before he stepped foot on a field in Carolina. Those were probably the same people, this year, saying RGIII would be a bust while Andrew Luck would be a star. Race shouldn’t be a factor but you’re fooling yourself if you believe it doesn’t exist at all.

Lastly, Jay Cutler has been a douche on the sideline for years… frankly, as long as the Bears win, I could care less. Cam has been a baby on the sidelines this year and if the Panthers were winning 1) it wouldn’t happen and 2) if for some reason it did, I don’t think Panther fans would care.

By: buckeye94

buckeye94 — Tue, 23 Oct 2012 23:39:41 +0000

Last I looked it’s 2012…we judge qbs by how they perform not race. Please Mr. Old washed out qb quit bringing past into the present it’s over…once again last I looked it was 2012.

By: themonkeyman

themonkeyman — Tue, 23 Oct 2012 23:37:46 +0000

iamthefootballjerk says:
Oct 23, 2012 1:58 PM
Would it make Moon upset if everyone compared Cam to him? A guy that puts up great passing numbers but doesn’t win when it matters.

The run and shoot made Moon seem a like a great quarterback. If Manning or Brady had the run and shoot, they would be pushing 60k yards by now.
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If the rules were then what they are now, Moon would have put up 60K in that offense too. The difference between the Moons, Esiasions, Cunninghams and todays guys is the rule changes that have made passing much easier in the current NFL. Look at completion percentage alone, for guys like Moon & Esision it was 52-53%, even Montana was 55%, today it’s up over 60. Moon would have killed it in any era, was was a great QB. Too bad he’s such a racist.