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NFL players vote Tim Tebow “most overrated”

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In a poll asking NFL players to name their most overrated colleague, Tim Tebow won in a landslide.

Tebow, the Jets’ backup quarterback, was named the most overrated player by 34 percent of the players in a survey conducted by Sports Illustrated.

So who’s the second most overrated player in the NFL? That would be the guy Tebow sits with in the quarterback meeting room every day: Mark Sanchez, who came in second and got 8 percent of the vote.

Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo also got 8 percent of the vote, followed by Eagles quarterback Michael Vick at 4 percent and Ravens linebacker Ray Lewis at 3 percent.

Surprisingly, both of last season’s Super Bowl quarterbacks, New England’s Tom Brady and the Giants’ Eli Manning, got votes for “most overrated” as well, with Brady garnering 2 percent and Manning 1 percent.

Sports Illustrated asked the same question in a survey of players last year, and Tebow, who was then with the Broncos, also came in first. But last year he only had 22 percent of the vote. So Tebow’s fellow players think he’s only getting more overrated with time.

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  1. niubears says: Oct 25, 2012 9:38 AM

    I applaud you NFL players!

  2. robertjamis says: Oct 25, 2012 9:38 AM

    Mark Sanchez is overrated? That’s news to me. Who thinks Mark Sanchez is anything more than a slightly below average quarterback, for a variety of reasons?

    Matt Ryan.

  3. amanitoomerisgod says: Oct 25, 2012 9:41 AM

    Could it be that both Jets QBs earned the top two spots as a result of being employed by the overrating, braggadocio machine that is the New York Jets?

  4. top5pin says: Oct 25, 2012 9:42 AM

    Tebow I understand. Sanchez… don’t you have to be rated in the first place to be overrated?

  5. avrus says: Oct 25, 2012 9:42 AM

    It’s a straw man vote. Find me someone who rated either Tebow or Sanchez high because that would be the pre-requisite for being ‘overrated’.

  6. cdins says: Oct 25, 2012 9:43 AM

    180 players were polled. So that means 3.6 people think Tom Brady is overrated. How about asking every player in the league and be thorough.

  7. classactcalvin81 says: Oct 25, 2012 9:43 AM

    I love Matt and the Lions but as of right now I would say Stafford until he proves otherwise..He has really been a disappointment thus far and with our D playing much better it would have been nice to c what we could have dove with both sides of the ball playing well!! Life of a Lions can!!

  8. dryzzt23 says: Oct 25, 2012 9:44 AM

    Vick is THE most overrated. Tebow is only rated #1 b/c most of the players are black and Tebow is white.

  9. lesliedevereaux says: Oct 25, 2012 9:46 AM

    I’m glad the players finally said Ray Lewis is overrated.

  10. mjbulls45 says: Oct 25, 2012 9:46 AM

    ratings dont matter,

    just win baby,

    all about wins and rings.

  11. fissels says: Oct 25, 2012 9:47 AM

    Speaking as a Tebow fan, I never rated him highly regarding his football skills. I rated him highly on attitude, leadership and intensity.

  12. yyyass says: Oct 25, 2012 9:47 AM

    Wow, Ray Lewis made the list. The young lions are restless and wan their share.

  13. Stiller43 says: Oct 25, 2012 9:48 AM

    Sanchez got most overrated, and everyone thinks he sucks anyway, ha!

  14. Stiller43 says: Oct 25, 2012 9:48 AM

    (2nd most overrated that is)

  15. prince5000 says: Oct 25, 2012 9:49 AM

    tebow, romo, vick – i’ll buy it.

  16. 00reo says: Oct 25, 2012 9:50 AM

    This poll doesn’t show that people think he’s getting more overrated with time… it shows that it’s becoming closer to a consensus throughout the league.

  17. tombradyallday says: Oct 25, 2012 9:51 AM

    half the players wish they had a eli or brady on their team, hatorade

  18. benh999 says: Oct 25, 2012 9:52 AM

    Who is that is overrating him?

  19. zack2482 says: Oct 25, 2012 9:52 AM

    65% completion, 22,470 yards passing, 157 TD’s, 81 INTs and a passer rating of 96. Sounds like the 8% is due to haters just hating. Can’t be overrated with numbers like that. More like underrated…..

  20. east96st says: Oct 25, 2012 9:55 AM

    I fail to understand how Eli could be overrated. Don’t the players read PFT? According to a number of NFL players and a large number of the “brilliant” football minds that post here, the Giants haven’t won a game in five years. The other team just gave the game away.

  21. jhein23 says: Oct 25, 2012 9:56 AM

    You can add both the Cowboys WR to this list – Miles Austin & Dez Bryant – highly overrated. And Cam Newton I am shocked and how often I see NFL fans putting him in the top 5-10 QBs? Really?? What has he done?

  22. revischrist16 says: Oct 25, 2012 10:02 AM

    I get Tebow being overated, he’s a backup QB who had the owner fly his personal jet to pick him up and had his own press conference. I get Lewis, he’s old now and not what he used to be, but continues to get voted into the pro bowl over those who deserve it. Vick is a turnover machine.

    But Sanchez and Romo? Sanchez isn’t overated, he’s considered bad. Romo has a career passer rating of 95.9….that’s impressive. Even more impressive is when he played with broken ribs.

    Brady and Eli….that’s just hating the rings.

    180 players? Was this evenly distributed from teams or was it all Miami, Washington, Denver and Pitt players?

  23. jessethegreat says: Oct 25, 2012 10:04 AM

    Zack, you’re saying romo is underrated because it took him 3 more years more than Rodgers to accomplish the same relative numbers as him… With the exception of the super bowl ring, and nflmvp honors?

  24. jhein23 says: Oct 25, 2012 10:06 AM

    Matt Ryan – play in a division with mostly crappy defenses his whole career check, play in the comforts of a dome check, have a HOF tight end check, have 2 all-pro big WRs check, be a predominantly run-first offense with big tailback check, good OLine most of his career check.

  25. psilenttype says: Oct 25, 2012 10:11 AM

    Sanchez shouldn’t be on the list cuz nobody said he was good…. Put Flacco on there

  26. jhein23 says: Oct 25, 2012 10:12 AM

    Anyone Skip Bayless says is good.

  27. theralph2012 says: Oct 25, 2012 10:14 AM

    This list could be renamed “ESPN’s weekly Sportscenter rundown”

  28. enochmh2 says: Oct 25, 2012 10:17 AM

    Troy polamalu,a few impact plays once in a while But constantly getting beat in coverage.But he such a down to earthperson so not entirely surprised he didn’t get some votes. Philip rivers too

  29. jtylert says: Oct 25, 2012 10:22 AM

    How bad do you have to be when the general consensus of “sucks at quarterback” qualifies as overrated?

    Good enough to play for the Jets.

  30. patriotenvy says: Oct 25, 2012 10:22 AM

    So 2 percent said Brady. Who else besides that Seattle conerback (what’s his name) has a ax to grind with Tom.

  31. thankheavenfornumberseven says: Oct 25, 2012 10:24 AM

    Sounds like envy and jealousy to me.

  32. juliodamfoolio says: Oct 25, 2012 10:30 AM

    The Jets’ QBs aren’t overrated, they are seriously overHYPED. They are talked about ad nauseum even though they have done next to nothing. They would have had to be somewhat good to start with to be overrated.

  33. 06mustang says: Oct 25, 2012 10:32 AM

    So surprising that a league made of up 70% black players votes all but two of the overrated players white. Brady and Eli overrated? Ok, maybe Tommy, but a QB who won last years SB and is 5-2 this year? C’mon man.

  34. imbetterthanyou says: Oct 25, 2012 10:36 AM

    This shows the intelligence level of the individuals polled. How can a person that is almost unanimously considered a terrible QB be overrated? It is about the same as when Eli was considered overrated when the hate on him was extremely high.

  35. psousa1 says: Oct 25, 2012 10:36 AM

    How is Sanchez ‘overrated’ when the consensus is he is in the bottom tier of QB’s?

    How is Tebow overrated when he doesn’t even play? What – he’s an overrated punt protector?

  36. rgthrizzle says: Oct 25, 2012 10:37 AM

    Romo, underrated? That’s funny.

  37. oldirtyman says: Oct 25, 2012 10:43 AM

    Tebow is overrated but wish he would score so i can see some TEBOWING!

  38. norseyapper says: Oct 25, 2012 10:43 AM

    There seems to be some confusion between “overrated” and “overhyped.” Tebow and Sanchez especially would fall into that later category and not the first.
    Now Romo and/or Vick, you gotta think they are lords of the first category.

  39. rtant2013 says: Oct 25, 2012 10:44 AM

    Why not say the whole Jets team haha not just their two bum qbs, even though I like Sanchez a whole lot more then Tebow. But how is Ray Lewis in that? Seriously wonder what players voted for him. Not a Ray Lewis fan but you have to give the guy his props

  40. randallflagg52 says: Oct 25, 2012 10:48 AM

    Tom Brady is king of the checkdown pass. I can’t remember the last time I’ve seen him complete a pass over 15 thru the air. He should be on every overrated list.

    Oh, and how does “Matty Ice” not make this list? Great offensive weapons and he can’t even lead his team to a field goal in the playoffs. At home, in a dome!

  41. fground says: Oct 25, 2012 10:50 AM

    I’m not sure if Tebow is the most overrated player, but I’m pretty sure he is the most rated player in the history of the NFL…never has a player been the subject of so much discussion as to his relative merits as a player.

  42. skittlesareyum says: Oct 25, 2012 10:54 AM

    Vick for sure. He had that one crazy game against the Redskins and people have been going nuts since.

  43. peytonwantsaflag says: Oct 25, 2012 10:55 AM

    WaddauKnow, the players are just as clueless, petty, jealous and petulant as the average fan.

  44. thraiderskin says: Oct 25, 2012 10:56 AM

    I have no dog in this fight at all, but I will say that this survey comes off really weak. Ray Lewis isn’t overrated, Eli Manning isn’t overrated, Tom Brady isn’t overrated.
    Tim Tebow? I have never heard anyone say he was a good or great quarterback, so where is the overrating? Too me, it doesn’t seem like NFL football players have anymore indication of who is overrated than the rest of us.

  45. ripster65 says: Oct 25, 2012 11:03 AM

    I agree with norseyapper…Who’s actually over rating him? I’ve never heard anyone say he can throw. He barely gets any playing time. He did have a nice run last season but lots of players have good spells here and there. Not really much to over rate yet in my opinion. Overhyped? absolutely.

  46. mljohns says: Oct 25, 2012 11:06 AM

    Why do things always have to deteriorate into an issue of race for some of you? That black guy that took your high school sweetie from you sure did a number on your confidence. Get over it already!

  47. hatesycophants says: Oct 25, 2012 11:11 AM

    Those of you attempting to “color” this poll as one based on ethnic background are the worst part of America. Why do you even watch football?

  48. acasar123 says: Oct 25, 2012 11:15 AM

    Should have been Vick in a landslide…He’s the most overrated player in the history of the league!

  49. jimthebuilder27 says: Oct 25, 2012 11:19 AM

    Damn straight Sanchez is overrated. He’s more interested in posing for GQ than working on becoming a better QB. Aaron Rodgers was so right to call him out on that.

    With regard to Brady and Eli Manning though, they are just horribly wrong!

  50. techieluddite says: Oct 25, 2012 11:28 AM

    I don’t know about overrated, overpaid is easy:
    Mario Williams

  51. richardf954 says: Oct 25, 2012 11:28 AM

    1 percent on Eli ?? Would that one percent Be Mr Jerra Jones ?

  52. fwippel says: Oct 25, 2012 11:31 AM

    Michael Vick would have gotten my vote.

    If you define “overrated” as how much publicity a guy receives commenserate to his contributions on the field, then Tebow wins this award hands down.

    However, if you define “overrated” as the media advertising a player to be much better than he is, then I’d have to go with Vick, followed by Mark Sanchez.

  53. granadafan says: Oct 25, 2012 11:41 AM

    Tebow is overrated because of the incredible bype he receives from the Skip Baylesses, Gator fans, and the evangelical Christian fundamentalists.

  54. skolvikings2011 says: Oct 25, 2012 11:42 AM

    So a guy who barely plays 4 downs per game is “the most overrated?” Sounds like many players have some serious envy issues.

  55. weepingjebus says: Oct 25, 2012 11:45 AM

    Gets worse when you realize this poll was only taken by Jets players.

  56. taintedsaints2009 says: Oct 25, 2012 11:46 AM

    There’s a big difference between over rated and over hyped.

  57. nonetruerthanblue says: Oct 25, 2012 11:48 AM

    I’m sure Tebow is “excited” to have the honor

  58. borderline1988 says: Oct 25, 2012 11:49 AM

    In the NFL, there is a top-tier of QBs who are incredible and can lead a team to a Super Bowl (Brady, Manning X 2, Rodgers, Brees, Roethlesberger).

    The next tier are guys who can be very good, especially statistically speaking, but simply are not good enough or are lacking some quality that gives them the ability to lead a team to a Super Bowl (guys like Ryan, Flacco, Romo, Schaub, Rivers and Smith).

    The last tier are guys who are just average, and either have to completely rely on their teammates to make the playoffs or even look decent (Skelton, Cutler, Quinn, Sanchez, Palmer, Hasselback, Stafford, Gabbert, Freeman).

    Vick used to be in tier 2 but now is definitely tier 3.

    Finally, there are the undecideds/young guns, although most project into tier 2 (Newton, Luck, RG3, Tannehill, etc.).

    And there you have it.
    You need a franchise QB to win the SB. That’s why even though SF, Houston, Baltimore, etc. have great teams, at the end of the day, it’ll be the Packers or Giants against the Broncos or Patriots.
    Once in a while, you’ll get a great defensive team with an average QB in the SB (Bears a decade back comes to mind), but it’s an exception.

  59. tindeaux says: Oct 25, 2012 12:03 PM

    well, majority of the nfl players don’t make as much money as the mannings, brady, luck, suh, sanchez, … hence, there you have it. the bottom of the pack players play their tails out every weeek… and of course they have to hate Tebow with all the attention he’s got. So it’s a jealousy thing. You can overrate the guy since he hasn’t officially played this season.

  60. armoderate says: Oct 25, 2012 12:10 PM

    Smith I think your hate for Tebow has led you to produce some really dumb articles. First of all, let’s think about what you said. “Tebow is overrated” By who? Ninety percent of the media has disparaged Tebow the minute he threw his first pass in the NFL. Excuse me I was wrong. It started the minute he left college. How many experts questioned his mechanics and the type of offense he was running in college even before the draft. And as far as the announcers during the NFL games, Tebow passes whether they were deliberate throwaways or incompletions were always generalized as a lack of talent. Other young QB’s were given a pass. And as far as players, not one supported him even on his own team when they actually didn’t belong in the playoffs and wouldn’t have made it if an inexperienced QB didn’t score for them. Most players are prima donas who hate anyone who gets more media coverage than they do. Even if it negative coverage. I’m not surprised.

  61. scottbiggie says: Oct 25, 2012 12:13 PM

    Cam Newton should be far and away number one but people think he’s “cool” so he’s not on there. Eventually you have to win a game or two buddy. At least Tebow wins games albeit ugly.

  62. SilentMajority says: Oct 25, 2012 12:15 PM

    Could someone please explain to me how a backup quarterback who plays on special teams, and is being considered for runningback can possibly be overrated?

  63. charlesanakin says: Oct 25, 2012 12:32 PM

    Notice who’s not on the list: Suh!

  64. willardj says: Oct 25, 2012 12:39 PM

    This just goes to show how stupid NFL players all. We all know how good Tebow is. These other dumb jocks are probably jealous of all his media attention.

  65. crappygovernment says: Oct 25, 2012 12:50 PM

    I hope they quit blacklisting Tebow for being an outspoken Christian soon…

    I wish the other NFL players would actually use their platform to speak out on something positive!

  66. tombradyswig says: Oct 25, 2012 12:51 PM

    Thou shall not use the lords name in vain!!!!!!!

  67. texansdude says: Oct 25, 2012 12:52 PM

    That sounds right to me! I’ll bet there was also a vote for most overrated team and coach, and I’ll bet I know who won those awards as well.

  68. crappygovernment says: Oct 25, 2012 12:55 PM

    If Tebow is such a terrible QB, I would think his mostly Eastern European detractors would want him in there to show the whole world how right they are.

  69. randomguy9999 says: Oct 25, 2012 12:56 PM

    Tebow continues to be a joke and distraction… he will never start at QB again… mark it down

  70. crik911 says: Oct 25, 2012 12:58 PM

    To Whom It May Concern:

    Ray Lewis is old. Ray has lost a step. But please watch the tackle he makes with one hand after tearing the tricep of the opposite. He tackled a running back 1-on-1 in the hole and took him down left handed.

    So sick of people saying this man can’t play at a high level. He is older and slower but still can play very very well.

  71. squared80 says: Oct 25, 2012 1:10 PM

    Can you really be “overrated” when every other NFL player knows you suck?

  72. glac1 says: Oct 25, 2012 1:23 PM

    Finley from Green Bay….

  73. packmanfan says: Oct 25, 2012 1:24 PM

    Excuse me while I Tebow over this news.

  74. ralphiepower says: Oct 25, 2012 1:29 PM

    Have they seen him with out his shirt on??

  75. flowadelph says: Oct 25, 2012 1:34 PM

    I don’t disagree with Vick being on the list but he has put his overrated team in position to win in the last two games. I guess he should play defense also in the 4th quarter.

  76. threedeep1998 says: Oct 25, 2012 1:37 PM

    Every single Green Bay Packer.

  77. sactogary says: Oct 25, 2012 1:38 PM

    randomguy9999 says:Oct 25, 2012 12:56 PM

    Tebow continues to be a joke and distraction… he will never start at QB again… mark it down
    ———————————————–
    Are you the same guy (or one of the thousands) who told us to “mark it down” that Tebow would never start in the NFL? That he would never win a game? That he would never lead a team to the playoffs, or win a playoff game?

    Go ahead, keep talking.

  78. hooterdawg says: Oct 25, 2012 1:45 PM

    Sports Illustrated has to be one of the most overrated sports mags in the free world. I haven’t seen any other sites even mention this lame poll.

  79. getyourownname says: Oct 25, 2012 1:51 PM

    More proof NFL players are poorly educated, by confusing “overhyped” with “overrated”.

    Of course, in NYC media, virtually all players are overhyped relative to their counterparts on other teams. And they will continue to be, as long as the NYC has the largest population spending the most time reading this kind of drivel, supporting untold numbers of useless websites, blogs, etc.

  80. wawoodee says: Oct 25, 2012 1:53 PM

    Tim Tebow being the most overrated player is laughable. If anything he is the most underrated player. There is far more discussion about how he can never be an NFL QB because of his mechanics than about how he is a world beater.

    Eli Manning is the most overrated player. Just because the team you play for wins two Super Bowls does not put you into the hall of fame as everybody was ready to do in February. Eli was an average to slightly above average QB until his break-out season last year. It helps that he has the best passing offensive line in the NFL and that he has had a compliment of super fast, elite wideouts to throw to.

  81. ialwayswantedtobeabanker says: Oct 25, 2012 1:56 PM

    Tebow is overrated as an NFL QB by some (Josh McDaniels burnt a first round pick on him; Rex Ryan made a move for him; Jacksonville was sniffing around; and a large number of fans are high on him).

    But, he’s not overrated as a human being. The guy is a top-quality human being, and for that reason alone – I pull for the guy. For those who don’t know, Tebow has long given an enormous amount of time and hard work (away from the cameras) for needy people, including children at home and abroad in third world countries. He’s just a straight up good guy.

  82. poridge1214 says: Oct 25, 2012 2:08 PM

    This just shows how incredibly stupid and jealous NFL players are. Since coming out of college, everyone involved in football has criticized Tebow’s mechanics, saying he will not make it in the NFL as a QB. When given the chance, he played average QB for the Broncos and along with great defense and a great running game, took them to the playoffs, beating a good Steelers team. Even after that win, he was criticized for his mechanics and everyone reiterated that he wasn’t an NFL caliber QB. So where exactly is the overrating he is being credited as having? The only thing I can think of is his popularity – for being a good dude, a winner, and a team player. But popularity does not = overrated.

  83. rjtinhouston says: Oct 25, 2012 2:36 PM

    What were they thinking when they left Mario Williams off the list?

  84. foosball11 says: Oct 25, 2012 2:41 PM

    Tebow has more playoff wins than Matt Stafford and Matt Ryan combined.

  85. insanelomein2 says: Oct 25, 2012 2:43 PM

    Nnamdi Asomugha should be on there. He’s been atrocious for the Eagles who was touted as #1A to Revis.

  86. bigharold says: Oct 25, 2012 3:02 PM

    Overrated? Come on, .. what next most popular?

    Is this the NFL or High School?

  87. hieveryone12345 says: Oct 25, 2012 3:31 PM

    I don’t think people know what overrated means.. being overrated is being called good or great when you aren’t. Everyone in the media and the fans say that Tim Tebow is a bad player. If anything, he is an underrated NFL PLAYER, not quarterback, but he could be used so much better than how the Jets are using him.

  88. joestemme says: Oct 25, 2012 3:31 PM

    One hates to knock a guy when he’s down and injured, but, it’s high time folks stop thinking that the current version of Ray Lewis is the same Hall of Fame RAY LEWIS we all respected. He’s been coasting on that rep for 3 or 4 years now. Same goes for Ed Reed. And, that’s if you consider the games where Reed is even playing, he’s so often injured.

    The Ravens defense as a whole is resting on a vision of themselves from a few years back. They rank 28th in Total Defense. 28th! That’s behind such feared D’s as New England and New Orleans.

  89. larryboodry says: Oct 25, 2012 3:56 PM

    zack2482 says: Oct 25, 2012 9:52 AM

    “65% completion, 22,470 yards passing, 157 TD’s, 81 INTs and a passer rating of 96. Sounds like the 8% is due to haters just hating. Can’t be overrated with numbers like that. More like underrated…..”

    And apparently anonymous…(-;

  90. crappygovernment says: Oct 25, 2012 4:03 PM

    Tebow exposed the charisma/likability gap in the NFL last season. Finally there is a player with something worthwhile to say!

  91. oceanpeaks says: Oct 25, 2012 5:07 PM

    Ratings aren’t worth the gas they blow. Nobody is worthy until they beat you, then you don’t utter a peep.

  92. azblackbird says: Oct 25, 2012 6:27 PM

    What moron thought up this poll? And are there any numbers as to who actually wasted their time responding to it. Stupid, stupid, stupid!

  93. randallflagg52 says: Oct 25, 2012 7:24 PM

    joestemme says:Oct 25, 2012 3:31 PM

    One hates to knock a guy when he’s down and injured, but, it’s high time folks stop thinking that the current version of Ray Lewis is the same Hall of Fame RAY LEWIS we all respected. He’s been coasting on that rep for 3 or 4 years now. Same goes for Ed Reed. And, that’s if you consider the games where Reed is even playing, he’s so often injured.

    ==================================

    Ed Reed is often injured? That’s a myth, he missed the first 6 game like 3 or 4 years ago but has played every game since. As for coasting on his reputation, is it because of reputation he’s among the INT leaders each and every year? Get a clue…

  94. larryboodry says: Oct 25, 2012 7:42 PM

    @borderline1988:

    I would have 4 tiers:

    Tier 1 – Brady, both Mannings, Rodgers, Brees, and Roethlisberger…Not only incredibly talented, but they’ve already led their teams to at least one Super Bowl.

    Tier 2 – Ryan, Schaub, and Cutler, guys with killer talent on winning teams who have yet to make it to the SB dance, but have the chance to get there this year.

    Tier 3 – The young guns…RGIII, Locker, Luck, Wilson, Freeman, Bradford, and Ponder…Guys who should only get better with experience.

    Tier 4 – Stafford, Sanchez, Romo, Hasselback, and Vick…Guys who’ve had success in the past, but are currently slumping…Stafford is the youngest, and has the most upside.

    Tier 5 – The never-weres, or may-never-be’s…Palmer, Flacco, Cassell, Tebow, Quinn, Newton, Skelton, and Kolb…Most upside here belongs to Newton if he can get his head on straight.

  95. spankygreen says: Oct 25, 2012 9:34 PM

    jhein23 says: Oct 25, 2012 9:56 AM

    You can add both the Cowboys WR to this list – Miles Austin & Dez Bryant – highly overrated. And Cam Newton I am shocked and how often I see NFL fans putting him in the top 5-10 QBs? Really?? What has he done?

    Offensive Rookie of the year, on a TEAM that sucks!!!I think that qualifies……

  96. larryboodry says: Oct 25, 2012 10:47 PM

    Oops…I meant 5 tiers.

  97. nemike says: Oct 26, 2012 2:51 PM

    Saddest part is that Tebow laughs all the way to the bank.

  98. gmen1987 says: Oct 31, 2012 5:19 PM

    jhein23 says:
    Oct 25, 2012 10:06 AM
    Matt Ryan – play in a division with mostly crappy defenses his whole career check, play in the comforts of a dome check, have a HOF tight end check, have 2 all-pro big WRs check, be a predominantly run-first offense with big tailback check, good OLine most of his career check.

    ===================================
    Goobs, you are so jealous of Matt Ryan.

  99. bn2n2me says: Nov 1, 2012 4:35 PM

    This punk..shouldnt even be in the league, its…pathetic how you all keeps is stun in your mouth..smh.

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