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Raiders improve to 3-4, approach being good

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Watching the Raiders manhandle the Chiefs Sunday, a thorough 26-16 thrashing, didn’t inspire much confidence.

A good team would have beaten the Chiefs by a much, much bigger margin. And good teams aren’t 3-4 this time of year.

At the same time, the Raiders have won two in a row (though the other one was against the Jaguars), along with beating the Steelers and giving the undefeated Falcons one of the best games anyone has all year.

There are moments when the Raiders look like an utterly capable professional football team.

They’re still very young in the rebuilding process, but there are clearly parts to build with on both sides of the football. I’m not sure Carson Palmer is the guy to quarterback them when they get closer to good, but he’s good enough to beat the chaff of the league.

The Chiefs fell to 1-6 with the loss, and the Saints should be eternally embarrassed for losing to them in overtime. The Chiefs haven’t led for a second of game time yet this year, and may not.

Brady Quinn didn’t return to the game after a first-half head injury, and Matt Cassel was the only other quarterback in uniform, or else inactive Ricky Stanzi might have gotten a turn. Cassel took a hard shot late from Richard Seymour, but can at least be hailed for his toughness, if not his aptitude.

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39 Responses to “Raiders improve to 3-4, approach being good”
  1. dawsonleery says: Oct 28, 2012 7:09 PM

    Chiefs had no chance to win that game, not at any point. Kansas City Chiefs are a complete mess.

  2. bnasu13 says: Oct 28, 2012 7:10 PM

    Need to finish drives better, but overall playing decent (and far better than most people expected). The next few games could all be wins – keep this tough play up! And go Saints! Let’s get a 3-way tie for 1st place!!

    Raider Nation!

  3. r8rh8r says: Oct 28, 2012 7:11 PM

    Approach being good.

    That was funny!

  4. humboldt420 says: Oct 28, 2012 7:12 PM

    “And good teams aren’t 3-4 this time of year.”

    So, Mr. Darin Grantt. Does that mean the Chargers and Raiders are on equal footing, meaning, they’re both “bad teams”.

    And say the Broncos lose later tonight and they are 3-4.

    Does that make Denver, Oakland and San Diego all “bad teams”?

  5. raiderapologist says: Oct 28, 2012 7:12 PM

    It won’t bother me if Seymour doesn’t return next season, but Palmer isn’t getting a fair shake. The run game is weak, the O line and receivers have been sketchy, and the defense has been vulnerable. Give the rag-armed quitter some credit.

  6. joetoronto says: Oct 28, 2012 7:14 PM

    The big difference with this Raiders team is that they’re no longer beating themselves.

    This team is getting better and better, even with a decimated secondary and no running game.

    Like I said before, when the running game comes around, this offense will be off the hook good.

    The Chiefs aren’t even competitive, that’s not hating, that’s the truth.

  7. socalraider909 says: Oct 28, 2012 7:14 PM

    Man I was all excited because we won today but reading this just pissed me off wow smh….

  8. raider23mike says: Oct 28, 2012 7:14 PM

    So the Packers struggling with the Jaguars, a team they should’ve blown-out 24-3 atleast by halftime. Yet they struggled. – Chargers lost to the struggling Browns.

  9. raider23mike says: Oct 28, 2012 7:16 PM

    A Good team… You mean Drew Brees and the Saints?

  10. raider23mike says: Oct 28, 2012 7:17 PM

    Add an extra minute to the Atl. Game and Oak ties and wins it!! ATL knows it. The Falcons were scared in that game.

  11. araidersfan says: Oct 28, 2012 7:19 PM

    AFCW looks to be weak (yet again) and 7-9/8-8 should earn the “winner” the division title.

    So it looks like the Raiders have as much of a chance as any other AFCW team (save the Chiefs) to be massacred in the first round of the playoffs.

  12. r502 says: Oct 28, 2012 7:24 PM

    What is your problem with Palmer? Do you miss Jason Campbell or Kyle Boller? Without Palmer the Raiders are probably without a win. If you want to see what ‘chaff’ looks like, ask the chiefs. They started Brady Quinn today.

  13. r8derfan33 says: Oct 28, 2012 7:31 PM

    I think we only had 2 penalties in the entire game. That’s the difference. Last season in the second game between these two, there was a combine of something like 28 penalties. Nice win.

  14. raiderapologist says: Oct 28, 2012 7:34 PM

    socalraider909 says: Oct 28, 2012 7:14 PM

    Man I was all excited because we won today but reading this just pissed me off wow smh….
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    Gantt’s drive-by on Palmer shows how much effort some of these writers put into their work. NBC must pay them by the piece.

  15. villa41 says: Oct 28, 2012 7:34 PM

    Did Raider kids steal your lunch money when you were a kis, Darren? Is is so hard to give credit where credit is due?

    I’m not saying the Raiders are one of the top teams in the league, but they certainly can win this division. Have you missed the fact the Raiders have been playing without their two starting CB’s since week two? Did it slip your mind the Raiders are getting used to new offensive and defensive systems. Oh, Carson Palmer has been the one constant and playing very, very well. He’s exactly the right man for the job now and the next several years.

  16. JSpicoli says: Oct 28, 2012 7:35 PM

    Solomon Wilcotts needs a new line of work.

  17. desertrace21 says: Oct 28, 2012 7:35 PM

    In 16 starts as a Raider, CP3 has around 4500 yards, 23 TD’s and 18 picks. That is pretty good stats. The red zone offense is a mess. Given his offensive line, lack of camp last year and another new system this year, I am fine with Palmer being the guy when they get better.

  18. JSpicoli says: Oct 28, 2012 7:36 PM

    The chiefs were many “experts” preseason pick.

    Lolz

  19. 7pints says: Oct 28, 2012 7:38 PM

    araidersfan says:
    Oct 28, 2012 7:19 PM
    AFCW looks to be weak (yet again) and 7-9/8-8 should earn the “winner” the division title.

    So it looks like the Raiders have as much of a chance as any other AFCW team (save the Chiefs) to be massacred in the first round of the playoffs.
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    So many things wrong with your post… don’t know where to start.

  20. platinumraider32 says: Oct 28, 2012 7:46 PM

    All I can say is……………….Uh Oh……………Don’t let this team get confidence. Should have been a blowout but wasn’t. Who cares……….a win is a win is a win, and Kansas City no matter the record always show’s up for the Raiders.

    If this team can keep building……………………hmmmmmmmmmm

  21. araidersfan says: Oct 28, 2012 7:49 PM

    @7pints

    I’m a Raiders fan so I’m certainly not looking to denigrate my own team…but the AFCW as a whole has been weak for a LONG time. The Raiders were in a first place tie last year but the ‘winner’ (the Donkos) had an 8-8 record. And I don’t think that the title will be taken by more than an 8-8 record this year.

    When was the last time our division was strong enough to have a WildCard team? Answer: 2004.

    The upside is that if McKenzie turns out to be a really good GM and things remain constant with the other 3 teams then the Raiders may dominate this division in the future.

  22. mtntrouter says: Oct 28, 2012 7:50 PM

    I really get tired of the Palmer bashing. The guy came off the couch to play in the KC game last year, which he didn’t really want to do when he only knew 10% of the playbook at the time. Every week he consistently got better (the 1st SD game was a passing clinic). New coaches, and new system, and the guy still gets bashed. Palmer’s arm strength may have declined, but he more than makes up for it with ball placement. The real problem is his receivers drop the ball. Today, there were at least 4 drops, and Moore’s drop was an easy touchdown. At 32, Palmer can continue to perform at a high level for the next few years provided his teammates do their jobs. If you go back to the beginning of the season, were it not for all the drops, Palmer would be deserving of a trip to the Pro Bowl.

  23. jagsfan1 says: Oct 28, 2012 7:57 PM

    Barely beating the pathetic Jags and looking horrible while doing it…and following that up with a win over the possibly even more pathetic Chiefs does not approach good at all.

  24. raiderapologist says: Oct 28, 2012 8:08 PM

    7pints says: Oct 28, 2012 7:38 PM

    So many things wrong with your post… don’t know where to start.
    ———-
    It’s never stopped you before.

  25. 561bengal says: Oct 28, 2012 8:13 PM

    Lol Raiders!!!!!!!,,,,

  26. gbatap says: Oct 28, 2012 8:17 PM

    13 of 26 points off of turnovers and playing the most underachieving, ill prepared team in the league, all while having had 2 weeks of preparation and before garbage time their best player was averaging less then 3 ypc. Don’t get too excited about this team yet.

  27. atwatercrushesokoye says: Oct 28, 2012 8:18 PM

    To the Raiders fan saying “7-9/8-8 might be good enough to win the AFCW” you best pump the brakes, the Broncos are done with the hardest part of their schedule, not unrealistic to think they’ll finish 10-6/11-5 (including 6-0 in the division) enjoy your moment of beating up on the worst team in the NFL, maybe you’ll even get a win against the Chargers (as long as they don’t fire Mr Roper before then) but you have no chance of winning this division, none!

  28. gotampabay52 says: Oct 28, 2012 8:30 PM

    Tampa Bay to knock you into your little black hole.

  29. rayguyreturns says: Oct 28, 2012 8:32 PM

    As I remember correctly, the “experts” on PFT all picked KC to win this game. These same “experts” now evaluate the Raiders?
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    “A good team would have beaten the Chiefs by a much, much bigger margin. ”

    Well there was the dropped touchdown pass, and the Raider kneel down at the 8 yard line at the end of the game that would have accounted for 14 points, and remember KC scored a TD in garbage time. I think that would make quite a “margin” when one looks at it that way.
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    “I’m not sure Carson Palmer is the guy to quarterback them when they get closer to good, but he’s good enough to beat the chaff of the league.”

    If you were to actually watch a game, you may figure out that CP is about the ONLY reason this Knapp designed offense has any chance of scoring points.

  30. raiderapologist says: Oct 28, 2012 9:12 PM

    561bengal says: Oct 28, 2012 8:13 PM

    Lol Raiders!!!!!!!,,,,

    …said the fan of the 3-4 Bengals. It’s almost like they don’t know their own history. Dumbest fans ever.

  31. raiderapologist says: Oct 28, 2012 9:35 PM

    jagsfan1 says: Oct 28, 2012 7:57 PM

    Barely beating the pathetic Jags and looking horrible while doing it…and following that up with a win over the possibly even more pathetic Chiefs does not approach good at all.
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    Like everyone says, you are what your record says you are. Three weeks ago the Raiders were one Browns win away from being the worst team in the league. Now they’re one Saints win away from being a half-game back of the AFC West lead. Oakland is churning their roster and working on the next draft. It’s up to the teams on their schedule to keep them down, and so far it hasn’t worked.

  32. Keyser Söze says: Oct 28, 2012 10:40 PM

    Pats played 3 teams that were above .500 at the end of the season in 2001 including the team they beat in the SB (Rams) and ended up 11-5.

    Scraping by beating bad teams is not a bad thing.

  33. nosmak40 says: Oct 28, 2012 11:11 PM

    Saying you are the best team, or even a good team, in the AFCWest is like saying you have the best hockey team in Guatemala.

  34. raideralex99 says: Oct 28, 2012 11:28 PM

    Stop with the Palmer bashing … he is the only reason why the Raiders won 3 games. If he had an OC who knew how to call plays they would have a top 10 offence.
    Here’s a little hint … if you want to write about a game … you show actually watch it first.

  35. johninthewest says: Oct 29, 2012 2:37 AM

    The Raiders just won Pooperbowl V!! The Chef’s are offically the worst team in the NFL!

  36. sicklnick121 says: Oct 29, 2012 8:44 AM

    There just mad cause they picked the chiefs to beat the Raiders coming off a bye week or what was it, if they dont beat the Raiders this week perhaps they never will??

    I like what Huff is doing at corner, And I like Gio at FS..And if we get Bartell back or Spencer though I like what Lee has done and maybe prefer him over Spencer.

    Our offense though needs to get Reece and Myers more involved

  37. bnutz44 says: Oct 29, 2012 8:46 AM

    At the end of the day a win is a win..divisional win that much sweeter..not saying we are world beaters but 3-4 halfway in can’t complain..a couple of plays here and there record could be better.

  38. oaklegend says: Oct 29, 2012 8:48 AM

    Mr. Gantt, Carson Palmer has been nothing less than a stud, a leader and a general this season. Your dismissive remark about him is revealing. Have not yet read an entry of yours that was worthy of this forum. Do you have another job?

  39. rangerrick012 says: Oct 29, 2012 10:43 AM

    Just so everyone knows, Mr. Gantt’s team, the Panthers, once again lost yesterday to fall to 1-6. So obviously the pain from this meant he had to lash out at the Raiders for actually winning a game, something Carolina would be lucky to do ever again this season.

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