Comments on: No developments on Tagliabue hearing

By: flipx99

flipx99 — Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:11:01 +0000

hor2012 says:Oct 30, 2012 5:44 PM

And, for those of you who think that you’re true Saints fans you’re not.
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Hor2012, I assume that you believe “you’re [a] true Saints fan.” Oddly enough, by your logic, that means you are not a “true fan.”

Really, you should let go of the notion that only those who watched games in Tulane Satdium can ever be a real fan.

By: cwwgk

cwwgk — Tue, 30 Oct 2012 23:24:23 +0000

Please. Just because people are of the opinion that credible evidence exists to support the NFL’s allegations doesn’t mean they “hate” the Saints. It just means that there are people out there who have a different opinion than those on the side of the suspended players. Nothing more.

The Saints organization promised to never again operate a bounty program; the head coach and general manager admitted the NFL’s allegations happened under their watch; the former defensive coordinator provided a written statement detailing the operation of the program; and Cerullo corroborated the fundamental details of the program.

Significant evidence exists. Whether one finds it persuasive is a completely different issue. But the evidence is there. To think otherwise is nothing short of delusional.

As far the the cases before Judge Berrigan are concerned, including Vilma’s defamation action, just remember the NFL’s motions to dismiss have not yet been ruled on. Judge Berrigan could very well dismiss them all because the players have no claims against the league or Goodell recognized by law.

By: usmutts

usmutts — Tue, 30 Oct 2012 22:26:37 +0000

Within moments after Goodell famously announced that he had 50,000 documents of evidence against the Saints players and coaches, he began backfilling and covering up every shred of supposed evidence he might have had. In truth, he has none that any reasonable, fair-minded person would rely on to destroy coaches, players and a whole team.

Like “hor2012″ this has been my worst year as a Saints fan. I sat in Tulane stadium one year when the Saints had a 20-0 lead on the Cardinals with 8 minutes to play…and lost. So I’ve seen the bad times.

But now I’m having a recurring dream. Every week or so I have the same dream. In my dream I’m sitting in the courtroom just outside the bar rail, right behind the chair in which Roger Goodell is sitting. I can see the back of his tailor-made Armani suit pants. That’s when jury selection starts in Vilma’s defamation suit. As each juror is called to take a seat in the box ( a waitress, an accountant, a roughneck, a stevedore, a nurse, a UPS employee, a retired school janitor, etc ) there appears a dark brown spot on the back of Goodell’s fancy pants and it gets larger and larger and larger and….

By: hor2012

hor2012 — Tue, 30 Oct 2012 21:44:46 +0000

This has been the worse period of my entire life of being a Saints fan. And, trust me. I’ve seen some horrific things. I can remember sitting in tulane stadium for the 62 to 7 whipping at the hands of those damn falcons. And, for those of you who think that you’re true Saints fans you’re not. I was honored to be in the dome when Big Ben was born. Others Saints fans remember Alfred Jenking second lining into the end zone after he caught the ball. And, don’t forget about the Monday night melt down lead Oak 35 to 14 before seeing our boys blow the lead. But, through it all you took comfront in the fact that we were controlling our own destiny. But, this year was lost when we lost our coach. I can’t wait for it to end. In the mean time I hope JV and company drag this out the entire year. Because, no matter what the haters say this was wrong.

By: ilovefoolsball

ilovefoolsball — Tue, 30 Oct 2012 21:40:59 +0000

gtodriver says:
Oct 30, 2012 5:08 PM
Earth to Saints fans – there is NO vendetta from the NFL against your team.
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Earth to gtodriver – there is no way that Goodell is righteous in his accusations.

By: gtodriver

gtodriver — Tue, 30 Oct 2012 21:08:50 +0000

Earth to Saints fans – there is NO vendetta from the NFL against your team.

By: mazblast

mazblast — Tue, 30 Oct 2012 20:13:08 +0000

Based on Vilma’s performance the last two weeks, Goodell or Tagliabue should rescind his suspension and require the Saints to have him on the filed for every defensive play.
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Based on what I saw Sunday night, that’s true.

However, this isn’t a matter of salvaging the Saints’ season now. This is personal. Roger Goodell Himself Live And In Person has made it that way with his “Evidence? I don’ need no stinking evidence” vendetta.

By: omniscient48

omniscient48 — Tue, 30 Oct 2012 19:26:41 +0000

Based on Vilma’s performance the last two weeks, Goodell or Tagliabue should rescind his suspension and require the Saints to have him on the filed for every defensive play.

By: djmcba

djmcba — Tue, 30 Oct 2012 19:25:52 +0000

I understand the league wanting to have Tags hear the appeal, but isn’t it obvious by now they lacked the requisite evidence to levy the suspensions set forth by Goodell. If they did, the case would be heard by a completely unbiased arbitrator and settled already.

I know the league has no obligation to appoint an unbiased individual but, at least to me, this joke is continuing to show that Goodell blew it in the first place

By: scrp2

scrp2 — Tue, 30 Oct 2012 19:17:53 +0000

With the hurricane can we just consider these matters as water under the bridge?

By: thegreatgabbert

thegreatgabbert — Tue, 30 Oct 2012 19:13:44 +0000

There was some concern that Tagliabue might be taking orders from Goodell. When he talks to him on the phone, he keeps saying “Roger …Roger…Roger”.
That isn’t cause for alarm in itself, but when he concludes the conversation by saying “10-4, over and out!”, it raises eyebrows.

By: insanelomein2

insanelomein2 — Tue, 30 Oct 2012 19:04:45 +0000

and to think I thought we’d get a whole day without mentioning Vilma and the Saints

By: thegreatgabbert

thegreatgabbert — Tue, 30 Oct 2012 19:02:06 +0000

They can argue until they’re Tagliabue in the face. It won’t change anything.

By: butthatmakestoomuchsense

butthatmakestoomuchsense — Tue, 30 Oct 2012 18:59:38 +0000

You’d think the hurricane in New York would give the NFL some perspective and they’d drop this whole “suspend the Saints players” nonsense.