Getty ImagesRedskins coach Mike Shanahan is concerned about the possibility that he could be without starting cornerback DeAngelo Hall on Sunday after Hall was ejected for getting in the faces of two officials and screaming at them.
“Any time you get kicked out of a game, ejected, there’s a chance of missing a game or two, depending on what they decide,” Shanahan said, via the Washington Post.
Hall thought Steelers receiver Emmanuel Sanders had taken a cheap shot at him, and he was yelling at the officials for not throwing a flag at Sanders. Shanahan said he agreed with Hall that Sanders should have been flagged on the play, and he even agreed with Hall’s decision to approach the officials and ask why Sanders hadn’t been flagged. But once Hall took off his helmet, got into the face of the officials, yelled at them and refused to stop after being told repeatedly to go to his sideline, Hall had clearly crossed the line.
“Until he took his helmet off, it’s exactly what I ask our guys to do,” Shanahan said. Initially I thought he did everything perfect. . . . There’s no excuse for having personal fouls, no matter what happens. . . . You still have to handle yourself the right way.”
And because Hall didn’t handle himself the right way, the Redskins could be without him on Sunday.
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That is the problem… Hall will never be a wiley vet… He is a headache and a liability.
Honestly they should just cut him. He’s not the answer at CB. Give some of the younger guys a chance to develop.
I’m still not convinced Suh’s changed his ways, but how is he hated more than Deangelo Hall?
D Hall is a punk. He gave up the most yards of any DB last year and made the Pro Bowl??? How is that even possible. Doesn’t that mean he was among the least effective DB’s??? He had one GREAT game with 5 interceptions. Other than that, he was beaten like a drum.
I also would have made him find another way home after getting ejected. Not on the “team” plane. He’s a selfish player who’s opinion of himself has always outstripped reality.
Cut him already. Eagles could use another elite player like him.
Kick him out for life, please.
Thank you captain obvious.
Suh stomped another players face, Hall yelled at a ref, big difference.
This Redskins fan certainly hopes Goodell suspends Hall for a game or more and does what Shanahan obviously doesn’t have the stones to…park Hall’s sorry butt. Considering Hall is one of the worst CB’s in the league and is getting payed a king’s ransom (Thanks Vinny you #$%@!), it’s nuts that he’s even playing. Seems like the Skins can’t do much worse, bench this punk and sign some practice squad fodder to give it a shot.
I read his lips, and it did seem kind of odd. But I don’t agree that he should have been thown out of the game for saying “what if I hug you…what if I hug you”
He is more than a liability. I’ve watched EVERY team the Skins have played throw at him on every third down and he can’t stop them. But I still blame Haslett for being the worst ever defensive coordinator that I have ever seen. Maybe Hall is better in a different scheme.
Shanahan shouldn’t wait for the league to do the right thing. If Mikey is really the stand up guy he thinks he is then he should show some leadership and suspend this clown?
He should be suspended. He got dominated on a play and instead of lining up and wining the next battle, he got up and tried to intimidate a Ref…
Addition by subtraction. Cut his ass.
could be a fun matchup with Steve Smith on Sunday. Those two aren’t exactly friends. A few years back I remember Hall had about 75 yards of penalties on one drive because of scuffles with 89.
So what if Hall is suspended? He could sit out the rest of the year as far as I’m concerned. He ranks at the absolute bottom of all NFL CBs for pass coverage, according to an article I read yesterday, so anyone they put in his place wouldn’t do any worse.
The only reason Hall is still around is that the Skins are on the hook for his full salary this season even if they cut him. So, I guess they figure if they have to pay him anyway they might as well try and get SOMETHING out of him. But, good luck with that.
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to get kicked out of a football game.
This guy is way overrated. He continually gets burned by WRs. I always see him chasing after the WR who blew past him.
A MeAngelo Hall suspension would upgrade the Skins secondary.
I don’t know how any NFLer is hated more than Cortland Finnegan. He is the dirtiest player I have ever seen.
Andre Johnson is one of the most soft spoken guys in the league and even he took a swing at this guy.
You would never see a player from the Steelers, Pats or Ravens behave that way towards an official. Totally unprofessional and the epitome of a player that’s not accustomed to winning in this league.
If he’s not cut this week (which probably won’t happen due to lack of depth), he’ll be a goner in the off-season.
As far as Hall is concerned (given what he has said and done in the past), I think the insanity plea might work in his favor.
Given that Hall is one of the worst at his position in the league, Shanahan may want him to be suspended a couple games… no need for Shanahan to volunteer that opinion otherwise
Crazy that the refs leaned Pittsburghs way isn’t it?
“Until he took his helmet off, it’s exactly what I ask our guys to do,” Shanahan said.
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Ever wonder why you haven’t won a big game since about 1997, Shanny? Maybe you should re-think what you are asking your guys to do.
Time to move on from d hall
Hall has the skill set that you want to love, the problem is that he doesnt produce. On top of that he’s a grade A jerk who is poison. His tirade against the ref was suspension worthy….Shanny should be the one doing the suspending b/c he selfishly cost the team but it will probably have to come from the Commish
redskins should suspend him for what he did. waiting on the league is weak and sends a message of tolerance
“….. there’s a chance of missing a game or two, depending on what they decide,” Shanahan said.
Here’s a thought, you’re the Head Coach, why don’t YOU sit has ass a game or two. Who cares what they decide, he’s a liability on your team.
He SHOULD get suspended.
He’s always been a dumbace.
He was frustrated. Rg3po got owned. They couldnt do anything. All those so called drops half of them came from our defenders dislodging the ball from their subpar receivers. Hall was mad cause our receivers are too fast for him. That secondary was awful. They were who the steelers thought they were. Bad. College read option offense is cute til you play a real defense like the steelers!!!
They way the secondary is playing, it’s not going to get much worse. Go to bed champ.
Hall would deserve it, not only once did he get in the refs face but continued to go at the officials. Here is one of those spots were being a proffeasional means ONLY being paid to play.
Watching the game in my area , after Hall showed his back side he now wants to say Sanders was dirty and deserved a flag. Watch the replay, he goes up to block Hall and Hall went after him. Sour grapes from a sour player.
Mike and Kyle should also be suspended for throwing a pass to Robert Griffin. This is not 1983, please evolve.
I think its wishful thinking for Shanahan. I’d want Hall suspended too. Save some money on his bloated salary and remove a liability from the lineup.
Why cut D Hall? Which current roster member would you replace him with?
8to80texansblog, Finnegan is the dirtiest player you have ever seen? New to the NFL huh?
His days are numbered. Can’t play man coverage, only zone, and still get burned in zone. How he made the pro bowl I will never know. The guy is so inconsistent, and gets burned time and time again. A real me player, not a team player. This is the last team he will play for, no one will take a chance on this bum. He will be broke and on the sidewalk two years after retiring because of the way he handles his personal life. No character. If he played as big as his mouth, he would be the second coming of Deion Sanders times 10. The Redskins need to draft a corner to replace him next year, he’s a bust.
wvucolumbus says: Oct 30, 2012 12:00 PM
You would never see a player from the Steelers, Pats or Ravens behave that way towards an official. Totally unprofessional and the epitome of a player that’s not accustomed to winning in this league.
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As a skins fan I would be the first to agree about the lack of professionalism aspect of his actions and wouldn’t cry about suspending this idiot, but don’t put these teams on that holy than now pedestal. In case you missed it, Sanders instigated some of this, and Brown backing into the end zone after the TD return was extremely classless. No team’s behavior is perfect throughout a game, it’s just some are smarter at how they get away with it.
I don’t want him suspended for the next game ’cause it’s gonna be fun watching Steve Smith light him up like a birthday cake when the Panthers come to town. Steve always has a field day against this clown.
DeAngelo Hall – still doing the same stupid stuff after all these years.
What would MeAngelo have done had they been the replacement refs?!? Probably would have punched them.
The secondary is below average at best. With no pass rush, a great secondary gets blown out.
The problem is Shanny is the smartest man in the room. He has all the statistical data to prove it. Problem is, the players for years have been in a 4-3 defense.
Orakpo IS a DE. But he has been making up for it. Without him and Carriker, there is only Kerrigan left.
What is sad is they have enough decent players to be at least average, BUT Shanny had to have a 3-4 because they cause turnovers and they have! But what good is it if you can stop anyone?
Good coaches can coach WHO they HAVE! We have a good d-line, it just can’t play with three of them! We have 4 decent linemen with 2 good back ups.
Its frustrating, because RGIII is having an NFL MVP year! 10 dropped passes! He actually had to try to catch pass!
Can’t wait for the off season. We will win again!
D.Hall defensive player of the decade LOL!! he so tough that he tries to beat up on old refs, i bet he wouldnt have done that to ed hocales
Translation: Please Goodell, suspend him!
As a Redskin fan: The thing with Deangelo Hall is he’s not hated in a “corteland finnegan” type way, because Finnegan is productive. Hall isn’t productive. If he isn’t getting burned, he’s about to start a riot after every play with opposing players or in rare instances, even their coaches. I would never wish for anyone to be out of a job, however, I would like to see him on someone elses team ASAP.
Hall is definitely NOt a rocket scientist
Go away Deangelo. We dont want you here.
Signed:
Skins Fan
Dear Mr. Goodell,
Please don’t suspend DeAngelo Hall. At least not until he meets with you sometime next week. It’s very important to me that he be allowed to play in next week’s game.
Sincerely,
Cam Newton
They shouldn’t suspend him, he was only trying to get hooked up with a night out watching basketball with Raheem Morris.
Trying and failing to cover even the most average of wideouts should be punishment enough.
The refs could have handled it better too. Like throwing a flag for a blatant cheap shot. Check must be coming from the other side. You’d think Washington would be the guys with the bribes. That was awful those refs should be held accountable also.
Panthers fan ( sigh )
Not making any excuses for that lose, because the Skins wrs coated the Skins any chance of winning that game. But I really don’t blame Hall, if you watch the game, Sanders had Hall by the face mask with both hands right ok front of a ref and there was no call. Plus there was several late hits and hits to the helmet that should have been called. I really wonder what D hall said to those refs, haha he was pissed. It wad pretty funny to watch to be honest. You could lip read mfer and a few other words. Hall gave that ref a piece of his mind.
Not for nothing, but Hall LOVE diving at guys’ knees. Even in preseason. For him to take umbrage is ridiculous.
mpayne12 says: Oct 30, 2012 11:32 AM
Honestly they should just cut him. He’s not the answer at CB. Give some of the younger guys a chance to develop.
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Every Redskins fan in the world agrees with you in principle, as do Shanny and Haslett. The problem is that there are no younger guys.
And as bad as Angelo Hall (‘because he don’t play no “D”‘- LaVar Arrington) is, there is nobody on the Redskins roster or floating around the league right now who could come in, outperform Hall, and take his job away at this point in the season. Obviously gettiung rid of Hall and getting an upgrade at the position should be the Redskins number one offseason priority, but right now they seem, unfortunately to be stuck with Angelo.
skinsfanwill says: Oct 30, 2012 11:46 AM
He is more than a liability. I’ve watched EVERY team the Skins have played throw at him on every third down and he can’t stop them. But I still blame Haslett for being the worst ever defensive coordinator that I have ever seen. Maybe Hall is better in a different scheme.
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I could not agree more with your first two sentences, but you’re way off on Haslett. Is he the world’s greatest defensive mind? No, but he’s a very competent DC and did a really great job evaluating talent and bringing in personnel to make an effective one-year transition first from the 4-3 to the 3-4 and then from the 31st ranked defense in the league to the 11th ranked defense in league.
The problem this year is that, based on the salary cap penalties, the Redskins were rendered incapable of spending to bolster the weak and depleted secondary and were forced to part with aging playmaker OJ Atogwe and talented headache/headcase LaRon Landry while subsequently acquiring little-to-no new talent in the secondary. And clearly, they also didn’t count on the bargain-bin safeties they brought in just before training camp (Brandon Meriwether and Tanard Jackson) being knocked out for at least the first eight games of the season due to injury/drug-related suspension.
The organization gambled that the undeniably effective pass rush would be able to compensate for the weak secondary. And who knows: maybe they would have been right, but they clearly didn’t count on losing the entire right side of their pass rush, including their best rusher and best D-lineman in week two.
Point is, you can blame Shanny or Haslett or Snyder, or Jim Zorn (best scapegoat ever) for making that gamble, but you can’t blame Haslett for the terrible play of the secondary, they just aren’t talented.
That said, and fully acknowledging that Hall is awful, I can’t help but feel that I’m the only one noticing how terrible Madieu Williams is. His mistakes aren’t as glaringly obvious as Hall’s but because he doesn’t run his mouth every minute of every day, nobody discusses how truly terrible he is. He may be responsible for nearly as many touchdowns and big plays as Robert Griffin has been this year on the other side of the ball.
I don’t know what to think about Hall. I am a VT and Skins fan and seen him play since college. Although he does have talent it seems he has never really lived up to his talent level. He is a gifted athlete but not sure he is good enough to talk some damn much. It would be different if he was leading the league in interceptions every year.
oranjellojones says: Oct 30, 2012 11:43 AM
Suh stomped another players face, Hall yelled at a ref, big difference.
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Haynesworth stomped a players face, Suh stomped a player’s Charlie Browns (sorry, just watched some Arrested Development over dinner), but still, “big difference”.
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comeonnowguys says: Oct 30, 2012 4:07 PM
Not for nothing, but Hall LOVE diving at guys’ knees. Even in preseason. For him to take umbrage is ridiculous.
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Cheap shots are dirty, but frequently not illegal. Sanders play was just bizarre: for those of you who didn’t see it, it was something in between a hockey fight and an atomic wedgie, about three feet in front of a ref. When the play was whistled dead, Sanders just started mugging Hall and the ref didn’t do anything. As much as we’re sick of Hall, it was a really strange non-call and it was impossible not to take his side there.
Hall is a gutless idiot. That ref should have punched him in the face!